Mocks

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

If you couldn't see that I was using it tongue-in-cheek, you should be enraged... at yourself.

[ice grillin you]

i wasnt even referring to your usage of it...i was speaking in a general sense

[SunMo]

you used reach yesterday.  you need to be punished.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Football's Future just updated it's three round mock:

   1.  Houston Reggie Bush, RB, USC
      Don't buy the talk of the Texans going another route - Reggie will be lining up in their backfield next year.

   2. New Orleans D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
      Stud blind side protector to protect Drew Brees.

   3. Tennessee Matt Leinart, QB, USC
      Perfect fit for Norm Chow's offense.

   4. New York Jets Mario Williams, DL, North Carolina St.
      Not the greatest fit in a 3-4, but neither was Bruce Smith. You can't pass on a talent like his at this point.

   5. Green Bay Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland
      The Pack go with the potential gamebreaker at the TE position.

   6. San Francisco A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio St.
      With no offensive player available to help, they grab a leader for their defense.

   7. Oakland Vince Young, QB, Texas
      Davis loves potential and hype, and Young is loaded with both.

   8. Buffalo Winston Justice, OT, USC
      The Bills have to address the OL and Justice has steadily risen during the post season.

   9. Detroit Michael Huff, DB, Texas
      The Lions look to address their defense, and Huff is a great fit in the defensive backfield.

  10. Arizona Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
      The Cards have to find a replacement for Warner down the line.

  11. St. Louis Jonathan Joseph, CB, South Carolina
      He is rising up boards with a fury. He has comparable upside to Cromartie, but not quite the risk.

  12. Cleveland Haloti Ngata, NT, Oregon
      The Browns get their man without having to move up. Ngata is a perfect fit on the nose.

  13. Baltimore Ernie Sims, LB, Florida St.
      Lining up a hitter like Sims next to Ray Lewis is a scary thought for offenses.

  14. Philadelphia Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida St.
      Despite the selection of Mike Patterson last year, the Eagles still need interior DL help.

  15. Denver(Atl) DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
      Tatum Bell cannot be counted on as a feature back, and Williams could be a star in Denver.

  16. Miami Jimmy Williams, DB, Virginia Tech
      Miami needs secondary help, and Williams could help at corner or safety.

  17. Minnesota Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida St.
      Cromartie would've been a top 10 pick had he not been injured. He isn't ready to start right away, but could be the Vikes nickel man from the getgo.

  18. Dallas Gabe Watson, NT, Michigan
      The Boys need an upgrade at NT, and surprise some with the Watson selection. The NT crop drops after after Ngata and Watson, so they grabbed one while they could.

  19. San Diego Tye Hill, CB, Clemson
      CB was a need before trading Sammy Davis to the 9ers.

  20. Kansas City Chad Jackson, WR, Florida
      The Chiefs lack a go to receiver, and with the DT's off the board, they take the Florida wideout.

  21. New England Manny Lawson, DE/OLB, North Carolina St.
      The Patriots need to replace Willie McGinest and Lawson is an ideal fit.

  22. San Francisco(Den via Was) Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio St.
      After landing the standout linebacker earlier, the 9ers get a weapon for Alex Smith.

  23. Tampa Bay Eric Winston, OT, Miami
      Tackle is a must selection, and Winston could be a major steal at this point.

  24. Cincinnati Donte Whitner, S, Ohio St.
      Whitner gets to stay home and fills an immediate need at safety.

  25. New York Giants Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa
      LB is simply their biggest need, and Greenway is great value at this spot.

  26. Chicago Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio St.
      With Azumah retiring, the Bears grab the Buckeye to replace him.

  27. Carolina DeMeco Ryans, LB, Alabama
      Will Witherspoon left in free agency, and left a huge hole at linebacker behind him.

  28. Jacksonville Nick Mangold, C, Ohio St.
      His attitude is a great fit for a Del-Rio team and he adds talent and versatility to the interior OL.

  29. NY Jets(Den) Kamerion Wimbley, DE/OLB, Florida St.
      Wimbley replaces the traded John Abraham as the sack man off the edge.

  30. Indianapolis Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
      Could produce as much as James did, at a much lower salary.

  31. Seattle Jason Allen, DB, Tennessee
      Provides insurance in case Hamlin does not make it back, or replaces the departed Dyson.

  32. Pittsburgh LenDale White, RB, USC
      The Steelers benefit from White's hammy injury, as they get the ideal replacement for Bettis in their offense.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

ROUND 2

   1.  Houston - Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn
   2. New Orleans - Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio St.
   3. New York Jets - Daryn Colledge, OL, Boise St.
   4. Green Bay - Abdul Hodge, LB, Iowa
   5. Denver(SF) - Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College
   6. Oakland - Darnell Bing, S, USC
   7. Tennessee - D'Qwell Jackson, LB, Maryland
   8. Detroit - Jonathan Scott, OT, Texas
   9. Arizona - Daniel Bullocks, S, Nebraska
  10. Buffalo - John McCargo, DT, North Carolina St.
  11. Cleveland - Richard Marshall, CB, Fresno St.
  12. Baltimore - Cedric Griffin, DB, Texas
  13. Philadelphia - Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami
  14. St. Louis - Thomas Howard, LB, UTEP
  15. Atlanta - Davin Joseph, G, Oklahoma
  16. Minnesota - Rocky McIntosh, LB, Miami
  17. Dallas - Ko Simpson, S, South Carolina
  18. San Diego - Greg Jennings, WR, Western Michigan
  19. Minnesota(Miami) - Demetrius Williams, WR, Oregon
  20. New England - Maurice Stovall, WR, Notre Dame
  21. Washington - Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA
  22. Kansas City - Kelly Jennings, CB, Miami
  23. Cincinnati - Claude Wroten, DT, LSU
  24. New York Giants - Jonathan Lewis, DT, Virginia Tech
  25. Chicago - Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia
  26. Carolina - Joseph Addai, RB, LSU
  27. Tampa Bay - Tamba Hali, DE, Penn St.
  28. Jacksonville - Spencer Havner, LB, UCLA
  29. Denver - Martin Nance, WR, Miami(OH)
  30. Indianapolis - Jon Alston, LB, Stanford
  31. Seattle - Chris Chester, G/C, Oklahoma
  32. Pittsburgh - Roman Harper, S, Alabama

[PhillyPhanInDC]

ROUND 3

   1.  Houston - Gerris Wilkinson, LB, Georgia Tech
   2. Houston - (NO) Danieal Manning, DB, Abilene Christian
   3. Green Bay - Max Jean-Gilles, G, Georgia
   4. Denver(SF) - Dominique Byrd, TE, USC
   5. Oakland - Charles Spencer, OL, Pitt
   6. Buffalo (Ten) - Demario Minter, CB, Georgia
   7. N.Y. Jets - Brodie Croyle, QB, Alabama
   8. Arizona - Ryan O'Callaghan, OL, Cal
   9. Buffalo - Bernard Pollard, S, Purdue
  10. Detroit - Mark Anderson, DE, Alabama
  11. New England (Bal) - Maurice Drew, RB, UCLA
  12. Philadelphia - Jeremy Trueblood, OT, Boston College
  13. St. Louis - Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas
  14. Cleveland - Darryl Tapp, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech
  15. Atlanta - Dee Webb, CB, Florida
  16. Dallas - Andrew Whitworth, OT, LSU
  17. San Diego - Rashad Butler, OT, Miami
  18. Miami - Deuce Lutui, G, USC
  19. Minnesota - Omar Jacobs, QB, Bowling Green
  20. San Francisco (Was) - Babatunde Oshinowo, NT, Stanford
  21. Kansas City - Orien Harris, DT, Miami
  22. New England - Barry Cofield, DT, Northwestern
  23. N.Y. Giants - Jeff Webb, WR, San Diego St.
  24. Chicago - Leon Williams, LB, Miami
  25. Carolina - Joe Klopfenstein, TE, Colorado
  26. Tampa Bay - Tim Jennings, CB, Georgia
  27. Cincinnati - Stanley McClover, DE, Auburn
  28. Jacksonville - James Wyche, DE, Syracuse
  29. Atlanta(Den) - Guy Whimper, OT, East Carolina
  30. Indianapolis - Terna Nande, LB, Miami(OH)
  31. Minnesota (Sea) - Greg Blue, S, Georgia
  32. Pittsburgh - Devin Aromashadu, WR, Auburn
  33. NY Jets (Comp pick) - Brian Calhoun, RB, Wisconsin

[ice grillin you]

sinorice what!!?!?!?!!???!!



you used reach yesterday.  you need to be punished.

if i even did im sure it was messin around....but if it wasnt then i do deserve some sort of temporary banning

[SunMo]

yesterday you said you wanted the full 7 round mock to see who was supposed to go where, so you knew what the reaches were.

you should be banned, from life.

[ice grillin you]

oh that was totally tongue in cheek there...it was i believe in response to ff gettin on me for wanting the full seven rounder

unban

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

you should be banned, from life.

Repost!

ff gettin on me

Don't pretend you don't like it.

[SunMo]

oh that was totally tongue in cheek there...it was i believe in response to ff gettin on me for wanting the full seven rounder

unban

fair enough.

[ice grillin you]

thanks dad

[SunMo]

your adopted, get a job.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Fox Sports Updated First Round:

MOCK DRAFT 8.0: Round 1

Pick    Team    Player    Pos.    School    Previous    Rising/Falling    High/Low

1.    Texans    Reggie Bush    RB    Southern California    1st    SAME    1st / 1st
Scouts lump Bush among some of the all-time great running back talents, including LaDainian Tomlinson, Barry Sanders,
O.J. Simpson and Gale Sayers. The Texans aren't going to pass up on the opportunity to add such a rare talent.

2.    Saints    Matt Leinart    QB    Southern California    2nd    SAME    2nd / 3rd
The Saints will dictate how the rest of the top 10 plays out. Leinart is perceived by most scouts to be the most valuable commodity remaining on the board. Potential franchise quarterbacks are rare, and the Saints will consider the former Trojan even with the free agent addition of Drew Brees. That said, the more likely scenario has the Saints trading down slightly. New Orleans has only two first-day selections. The Titans aren't likely to move up since they have only two first-day picks of their own. The Jets, however, with five picks on the first day (including Nos. 4 and 29 of the first round), have plenty of ammunition. A trade with the Jets would put the Saints in position to add Ferguson at a point of better value, or to fulfill another need at outside linebacker with A.J. Hawk.

3.    Titans    Vince Young    QB    Texas    3rd    SAME    3rd / 13th
Steve McNair is entering the final year of his contract and his base salary for this season is $9 million. The Titans and McNair are struggling to agree to a restructured contract, and there is no guarantee he will return to the team. The Titans appear to be quite high on Young and likely would take him here if Leinart is off the board. However, given the choice, the team seems to be leaning towards offensive coordinator Norm Chow's former protege from Southern California. The uglier the McNair situation becomes, the more determined the Titans might be to add Leinart due to his knowledge of the offense and readiness to play immediately.

4.    Jets    D'Brickashaw Ferguson    OT    Virginia    4th    SAME    2nd / 6th
With five picks on the first day, including two picks in each of the first and third rounds, the Jets certainly have the ammunition to move ahead of Tennessee and select quarterback Matt Leinart if they hold him in the high regard rumored. Should the Jets elect to stand pat, however, Ferguson makes too much sense to pass on if still available.

5.    Packers    Mario Williams    DE    N.C. State    5th    SAME    2nd / 5th
The Packers could find themselves in the enviable position of picking between the top two rated defenders of the draft. If this scenario played out, the Packers wouldn't hesitate to select Williams.

6.    49ers    A.J. Hawk    OLB    Ohio State    6th    SAME    5th / 7th
Tight end Vernon Davis would make a lot of sense here as the team attempts to add weapons for young quarterback Alex Smith, but if Hawk makes it to the sixth pick, the 49ers would be wise to add to their defense first.

7.    Raiders    Michael Huff    DB    Texas    7th    SAME    7th / 13th
The Raiders love speed and Huff, who ran a 4.34-second 40-yard dash at the combine, has plenty of that. He also would provide the consistent open-field tackler Oakland has been searching for.

8.    Bills    Vernon Davis    TE    Maryland    8th    SAME    6th / 10th
Most expect the Bills to draft one of the top two defensive tackles, and Brodrick Bunkley and Haloti Ngata certainly would make sense. However, if Davis were to fall into the Bills' lap, his value and immediate impact potential could be too much to pass on. USC tackle Winston Justice could also be a consideration, as his stock continues to rise as the draft approaches.

9.    Lions    Winston Justice    OT    Southern California    9th    SAME    9th / 18th
Justice's superb pro day effort has his stock skyrocketing as the draft approaches. The Lions started former seventh-round pick Kelly Butler at right tackle last year and though he performed adequately, Justice would provide an immediate upgrade.

10.    Cardinals    Haloti Ngata    DT    Oregon    10th    SAME    10th / 18th
The Cardinals were among the NFL's worst last season in two areas critical to success: running the football and stopping the run. The addition of free agent Edgerrin James certainly addresses the offensive side and the 6-foot-4, 338-pound Ngata would close defensive gaps.

11.    Rams    Broderick Bunkley    DT    Florida State    11th    SAME    8th / 11th
The Rams have a great many options with this pick. Outside linebacker, tight end and quarterback Jay Cutler all make sense for various reasons. However, the Rams finished 27th in run defense last season and are seeking to replace two former first-round defensive tackles in Ryan Pickett and Damione Lewis. Bunkley broke the FSU record for tackles for loss in a season with 25 and was one of the top performers at both the Senior Bowl and combine.

12.    Browns   Kamerion Wimbley    DE/OLB    Florida State    12th    SAME    12th / 18th
The two primary needs for the 3-4 alignment are a nose guard and outside linebackers. Though the Browns addressed each of these positions via free agency, they are still looking for depth. Wimbley would give the club a young pass rusher to soak up knowledge from newly signed Willie McGinist.

13.    Ravens    Jay Cutler    QB    Vanderbilt    13th    SAME    4th / 13th
Teams are all over the board on Cutler, which could facilitate a slight drop down the board for the former SEC star. The Ravens are looking to add some competition for Kyle Boller and have closely scouted this year's passers. Quarterbacks coach Rick Neuheisel joined the Baltimore scouting staff at the Senior Bowl, where Cutler shined. The Ravens like OT Winston Justice, but his pro day performance may have vaulted him out of Baltimore's reach.

14.    Eagles    Ernie Sims    OLB    Florida State    17th    (+3)    14th / 23rd
Defensive coordinator Jim Johnson's defense is predicated on pressure and speed. There isn't a faster, more aggressive linebacker in this draft than Sims. He showed his 4.50-second speed in the 40-yard dash at the combine, and has drawn comparisons to another former Seminole, Tampa Bay star Derrick Brooks.

15.    Broncos (from Falcons)    Chad Jackson    WR    Florida    15th    SAME    14th / 29th
Rod Smith can't last forever and former first-round pick Ashley Lelie continues to struggle with consistency. The Broncos are believed to be targeting Jackson and pass rushers Wimbley and Lawson with this pick, and will simply take their choice of whoever remains.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

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16.    Dolphins    Jimmy Williams    DB    Virginia Tech    16th    SAME    11th / 22nd
Nick Saban has shown a willingness to take a chance on inconsistent athletes in the past with Ricky Williams and Manuel Wright. Williams wasn't as dominant at his pro day as expected and struggles with consistency, but is the draft's most gifted cornerback. Some might feel the Dolphins have addressed the need for corners with the recent free agent additions of Will Allen and Andre Goodman, but depth is unreliable.

17.    Vikings    Chad Greenway    LB    Iowa    25th    (+8)    12th / 31st
The Vikings are looking to add linebackers with speed to play in their Cover-2 scheme. Greenway could slip down the board a bit because he ran a little slower than expected at the combine (4.76) and didn't lift well, but his speed on the field along with instincts and reliable tackling is apparent on film.

18.    Cowboys    Jason Allen    S    Tennessee    NR    (NR)    15th / NR
The Cowboys would like to add a capable athlete to play opposite Pro Bowl strong safety Roy Williams. They re-signed free safety Keith Davis, but he is a special teams dynamo the coaching staff was reluctant to even put in the starting lineup last season. Allen, who missed most of the 2005 season with a dislocated hip, has drawn red flags from some teams, but is still considered a strong first-round value. Picks 18-32 could feature a colossal run on defensive backs.

19.    Chargers    Tye Hill    CB    Clemson    19th    SAME    15th / 31st
The Chargers have certainly tried to address the cornerback position in the past, as they employ three former first-rounders there. Unfortunately, Quentin Jammer, Sammy Davis and Jamar Fletcher only snared three interceptions between them in 2005. Hill's explosive speed likely assures him being selected in the top 20, even if teams are wary of his less than prototypical size (5-10, 185).

20.    Chiefs (from Bills)    Johnathan Joseph    CB    South Carolina    26th    (+6)    16th / 30th
After releasing Eric Warfield and Dexter McCleon, the Chiefs will strongly consider top cornerback prospects with their first-round pick. Only Williams and Hill are considered locks for the top 20, however, and the Chiefs might have to reach a little. Joseph is a spectacular talent, but is certainly a gamble as the junior essentially played only one season at the D-I level. Joseph transferred to South Carolina following one season at Coffey Community College and missed most of the 2004 season to a broken foot.

21.    Patriots    Bobby Carpenter    OLB    Ohio State    21st    SAME    21st / NR
The Patriots rarely draft for need, but with a hole at linebacker and the versatile, instinctive Carpenter on the board, the pick makes too much sense not to be given strong consideration. Besides, with five picks in the top 105, the Patriots have plenty of opportunities to address other needs.

22.    49ers (from Broncos via taterskins)    Manny Lawson    DE/OLB    N.C. State    14th    (-8)    11th / NR
With the free-agent departures of outside linebackers Julian Peterson and Andre Carter, the prospect of landing Lawson might have been a driving force behind the 49ers sending second- and third-round picks to Denver for this selection. Lawson posted 10.5 sacks his senior season and has the potential to become a big playmaker in a 3-4 scheme. However, he needs to add more bulk to his 6-5, 241-pound frame.

23.    Buccaneers    Santonio Holmes    WR    Ohio State    24th    (+1)    14th / NR
A strong defense and the running of rookie Cadillac Williams receives much of the credit for the Bucs making the playoffs last year, but the resurrection of Joey Galloway was arguably the biggest factor. His 83 receptions for 1,287 yards and 10 touchdowns topped his numbers for the previous two seasons combined. It might be asking a bit much for the 34-year-old to repeat that production in 2006. Holmes would provide an immediate upgrade in the slot and would eventually take Galloway's place as the outside vertical threat.

24.    Bengals    Ashton Youboty    CB    Ohio State    NR    (NR)    24th / NR
Cincinnati's top need remains tight end, but cornerbacks present the best value at this point. Youboty continues the Buckeye tradition of producing high quality defensive backs.

25.    Giants    DeAngelo Williams    RB    Memphis    NR    (NR)    21st / NR
The Giants' biggest need remains at outside linebacker, but the run on defenders could drop talented running backs down the board. Tiki Barber finished only 20 yards behind Shaun Alexander for the league's rushing title in 2005, but depth behind him is thin. Williams, the NCAA's career leader with 7,573 all-purpose yards, is a similar prospect who would give the team depth and someone for Barber to eventually pass the torch to.

26.    Bears    Donte Whinter    S    Ohio State    27th    (+1)    24th / NR
The Bears would love to see the talented and versatile Whitner on the board. He is viewed as athletic and instinctive enough to play either safety position, and there are some who feel he could even play cornerback after showing a quick change of direction and surprising pure speed (4.40) at the combine.

27.    Panthers    LenDale White    RB    Southern California    32nd    (+5)    14th / 32nd
White's torn hamstring could drop him out of the first round. However, teams willing to look past the injury and focus on his 57 career touchdowns (tying the all-time Pac-10 record) could be rewarded. The Panthers' power running game would be a great fit, and the team is certainly looking for depth at the position with the brittle DeShaun Foster as the starter.

28.    Jaguars    Antonio Cromartie    CB    Florida State    18th    (-10)    18th / NR
A bit of a surprise here considering the Jaguars have Rashean Mathis and just signed Brian Williams to a big contract. However, vice president of player personnel James Harris has shown a past willingness to gamble on athleticism (see Matt Jones), and Cromartie, at 6-2, 208 pounds, has been characterized as the best athlete at Florida State since Deion Sanders. Cromartie is certainly a gamble, however, as he missed the entire 2005 season with a torn ACL and started just one of 25 games with the Seminoles.

29.    Jets (from Broncos)    Nick Mangold    C    Ohio State    29th    SAME    28th / NR
What happens with the Jets' first pick, No. 4 overall, obviously will have a huge impact on what the Jets are looking to do here. If they draft Ferguson, they aren't likely to add another lineman in the first round. But if they fill another need at No. 4, Mangold would be a nice addition for a line that recently signed versatile veteran Trey Teague, who can play tackle or center.

30.    Colts    Laurence Maroney    RB    Minnesota    30th    SAME    24th / 30th
Maroney's vision and smooth running style make him a natural fit for the Colts, who are looking toward the draft to replace Edgerrin James.

31.    Seahawks    Kelly Jennings    CB    Miami    20th    (-11)    20th / NR
The Seahawks feel their top remaining priority this off-season is their defensive backfield. Jennings' slight frame (5-11, 178 pounds) will drop him down the board a bit, but scouts appreciate his consistency and 40 career starts with the Hurricanes.

32.    Steelers    Darnell Bing    SS    Southern California    NR    (NR)    32nd / NR
The Steelers are expected to address wide receiver or safety with this selection. With no receivers of great value remaining, the best option might be Bing, whose size and athleticism has scouts intrigued.

Fallen from the first round:
# Leonard Pope — Georgia TE (No. 24, Bengals)

# DeMeco Ryans — Alabama OLB (No. 28, Jaguars)

# Mathias Kiwanuka — Boston College DE (No. 31, Seahawks)