News for Eagles FO: Draft != Free Agency

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, March 15, 2006, 08:17:58 AM

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SD_Eagle5

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 15, 2006, 10:58:39 AM
It's  March 15th.  The season doesn't start for six months, yet some of you are reacting like the Eagles will do nothing to improve the roster between now and then.  It's ridiculous, Mo.

Enlighten me on how they're planning on spending the rest of the $30 million still under the cap.

Rome

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 15, 2006, 10:49:29 AM
romey can you tell me why randal el and lloyds contracts were idiotic in general and then tell me why they were any better or worse than howards

Randle El's contract was ridiculous because he's never proven to be anything more than a gimmick player.  The taterskins paid him like a Pro Bowler.  That's ridiculous, IMO.

Lloyd isn't even worth arguing about. 

phattymatty


ice grillin you

Lloyd's contract was ridiculous if the guaranteed money is anything close to reported, because he's not that good.

but why does it matter how much a team pays for someone...you can say the lloyd aquisition is dumb cause tyler jacobs is better or it doesnt improve their wr's...but why do you care how much the taterskins or eagles pay someone

id much rather have lloyd on the eagles right now at his money than barber at his
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reese125

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 15, 2006, 10:49:29 AM
romey can you tell me why randal el and lloyds contracts were idiotic in general and then tell me why they were any better or worse than howards


all were foolish in monetary terms, only because the market was so high. There is a trend with the financially smarter teams if you cant see it (NE, Pitt, Seattle and Eagles), they wait till the bubble bursts then make their choice based on value. The players taken so far....way overvalued for what they have done so far. The Eagles had no choice with Howard due to the lack of talent at that position and their deep need. I mean lets be real.....he's 30 years old with knee problems...does that sound like Eagles philosophy to you? Lets just hope he has a career year this year...its possible in JJ's scheme.

Rome

Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 15, 2006, 11:01:36 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 15, 2006, 10:58:39 AM
It's  March 15th.  The season doesn't start for six months, yet some of you are reacting like the Eagles will do nothing to improve the roster between now and then.  It's ridiculous, Mo.

Enlighten me on how they're planning on spending the rest of the $30 million still under the cap.

I think they'll use a lot of that money re-upping their own players, SD.  I also think they're not done signing free agents or acquiring other players (Moulds, Walker, whomever) yet.

Like I said, they're five days into the process.  Personally, I don't think they're done but if they are, then I'd be just as disappointed as the rest of you appear to be.

Feva

Quote from: FFatPatt on March 15, 2006, 09:41:26 AM
Look, there are still moves that can be made before, or even after, the draft.  Don't get me wrong.  And the secrecy of the Eagles' front office could be misleading us that they aren't showing interest in some players that they possibly are.  I guess my bottom line is that if a 6-10 season combined with a $17 million increase in the salary cap (from 2005 to 2006) is not enough reason for you to replace the parts of the starting lineup with better players, then there is a persistent stubbornness in the philosophy that needs to be cut out of the equation.

Hey, we'll see what happens.  I'm just saying that if the team goes into the season with Todd Pinkston or Greg Lewis starting at WR, they failed.  If Dhani Jones is still starting at LB, they failed.  If Donovan regularly has inadequate time to throw and/or the running game sucks ass...

Count me in too.

The one thing that's frustrating as hell is to hear that "There's just no one out there the Eagles like enough" as a reason that they're generally not active.  That's complete bull.  You can't tell me that there's no one out on the market that can play SAM better than Dhani Jones.  You can't tell me that a WR like David Givens doesn't make the WR corps better than a guy like Greg Lewis does.  You can't tell me that Rocky Bernard or Ryan Pickett aren't more effective DT's than Hollis Thomas or Paul Grasmanis.

No one's saying turn into the Skins and go buying your team year after year... but damn, you can't avoid FA like it's the plague.  I love the Howard signing, but it's a good start... and there are other positions of need that shouldn't be put in the hands of a rookie on a team that's supposed to have Super Bowl aspirations.
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phattymatty

i can't fathom how people love the fact that the eagles don't overpay for someone.  if you want something bad enough, you overpay just to make sure you get it.  thats how shtein works.  whats the point of bragging about how much money they have when they don't use it. 

and who are all of these great FAs that are still on the market?  none.  maybe because all of the "sucker" teams overpaid for the good ones.  it's not really being a sucker to make sure you get someone who you really want.

rjs246

I would pay $6 for a miller lite can right now.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Feva

Quote from: rjs246 on March 15, 2006, 11:09:29 AM
I would pay $6 for a miller lite can right now.

I'd pay $10 for it and drink it right in front of you.  Would I have overpaid?  Probably... but you still won't have it and I'll enjoy the hell out of it.
"Now I'm completing up the other half of that triangle" - Emmitt Smith on joining Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin in the Hall of Fame

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Rome

Other than Bentley, name me one free agent the Eagles should have broken the bank for.

The only guy I wanted other than Bentley was Will Witherspoon yet even he got way more money than he should have.

I guess what I'm saying is I don't think that spending millions of dollars on players who don't merit it is stupid.  It rarely, if ever, works out historically speaking.  You simply can't buy yourself a Super Bowl win using free agency.

rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Just to mess with you both, I went downstairs and got a can of Miller Lite out of my fridge.

Functional alcoholism owns.

Rome

Quote from: EagleFeva on March 15, 2006, 11:11:07 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 15, 2006, 11:09:29 AM
I would pay $6 for a miller lite can right now.

I'd pay $10 for it and drink it right in front of you.  Would I have overpaid?  Probably... but you still won't have it and I'll enjoy the hell out of it.

:-D

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 15, 2006, 11:13:50 AM
Other than Bentley, name me one free agent the Eagles should have broken the bank for.

The point is that their 'bank' is so far away from 'broken' that they wouldn't have to.

Givens only got $8m in guarantees.  The only reason, if I'm in the Eagles FO, that I don't match that deal is because I am absolutely certain I will acquire Javon Walker or Eric Moulds.  So, we'll see.

Also, I would look at Julian Peterson or Arrington.  I would look at Bernard or Pickett.

But it appears they're not.  So, we'll see.