Please god, let this be true

[PhillyPhreak54]

What some of you are forgetting is that there are reports out there that Denver has a huge boner for Vernon Davis. They wants another Shannon Sharpe type guy in that offense.

So there are two trains of thought to this deal, well actually 3;

1. Denver wants to load up on picks (they now have 7 in the first four rounds) so they can trade up for Vernon Davis. Why give up that 1st for a two and a three now? Because at this time the price isn't as expensive for trades. When there is time on the clock teams get greedy and can afford to hold another team hostage in negotiations.

Plus they also get a zesty teams higher #2 and #3 pick. So they could realtistically trade their 15th overall and their own #2 and #3 to get high enough to get Davis and still have SF's good #2 and #3.

2. They want Walker. That has been discussed already

3. SF intiated the trade as PF spoke about and Denver went along with it because of the reasons stated in my #1.

[Drunkmasterflex]

Phreak, I hear what you are saying but if they wanted Davis so badly why not keep both first rounders? It would be a hell of a lot easier to parlay two 1sts  to move up wouldn't it?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Phreak, I hear what you are saying but if they wanted Davis so badly why not keep both first rounders? It would be a hell of a lot easier to parlay two 1sts  to move up wouldn't it?

Yeah, but they shouldn't need to move that far up to get Davis.  Coincidentally, they might end up moving to #6 or so.

[Feva]

I love getting my hopes up. Walker will be an Eagle!


...and we continue to pray!

[hbionic]

The Kelly Greens are teh classic!

[ice grillin you]

The Kelly Greens are teh classic!

werd life

[bobbyinlondon]

What some of you are forgetting is that there are reports out there that Denver has a huge boner for Vernon Davis. They wants another Shannon Sharpe type guy in that offense.

So there are two trains of thought to this deal, well actually 3;

1. Denver wants to load up on picks (they now have 7 in the first four rounds) so they can trade up for Vernon Davis. Why give up that 1st for a two and a three now? Because at this time the price isn't as expensive for trades. When there is time on the clock teams get greedy and can afford to hold another team hostage in negotiations.

Plus they also get a zesty teams higher #2 and #3 pick. So they could realtistically trade their 15th overall and their own #2 and #3 to get high enough to get Davis and still have SF's good #2 and #3.

2. They want Walker. That has been discussed already

3. SF intiated the trade as PF spoke about and Denver went along with it because of the reasons stated in my #1.

Denver doesn't have its own No.3--it traded it to Atlanta, along with a 2007 4th for Atlanta's No.1 pick at 15. So they have a 1, 2 2nds, 1 3rd, three 4ths.

[hbionic]

...and the Eagles have their hands ready to spread their cheeks....again.

[bobbyinlondon]

A caller on WIP brought up a good point. He thinks the Niners initiated this deal, not Denver. He thinks the Niners want to trade for multiple picks so they can have 2 firsts and a 2nd. It is a good point though. A team like the Niners that are so bad need as many picks as they can get. If they trade their #6 overall and multiple picks they'll have plenty of picks on the first day to help rebuild that team.

Read your post again.  If it still makes any logical sense to you, you've failed the test.

Seriously... if the Niners want MORE first-day picks, why would they trade for less as a first step to get more?  It makes no sense.  Also, it doesn't matter who initiated the deal, because obviously both teams wanted to do it.

Niners traded their 2nd and 3rd for 22 overall. So now they have 2 firsts, but not a 2nd and a 3rd. Then they trade #6 overall for say #12 overall, and a 2nd round pick.

So they have #12 overall #22 overall and a 2nd round pick.

Is that not better off than they were last night before this Denver deal?

Regardless of whether the second part happens or not is irrelevant. The point was that the Niners initiated the deal, and not Denver. Which would scratch off the idea of Denver calling San Fran to do this strictly to chase Walker.

We don't know why both teams did this deal yet, but the guy made a good point.

They have Washington's 3rd as a result of the Brandon Lloyd trade as well as their 2007 4th rounder.

[Wingspan]

...and the Eagles have their hands ready to spread their cheeks....again.

[Don Ho]

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Apr/23/sp/FP604230377.html

For what it's worth.  Gotta believe Lelie is done in Denver which opens the door for a Walker acquisition.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Apr/23/sp/FP604230377.html

For what it's worth.  Gotta believe Lelie is done in Denver which opens the door for a Walker acquisition.

media reports have Lelie at a performance center in Tempe, Ariz

Hmmmm.  I know of this guy who swears by a perforamance center in Arizona.

[Drunkmasterflex]

I would take him as a compliment to Reggie Brown but he according to what I heard on NFL Radio wants to be a #1 receiver.  Denver also apparently wants a number 2 for him that is way too high at most I would give would be a 3rd and that is kind of high.

[Zanshin]

What receiver doesn't want to be a number one receiver?  Trick is to perform like one....if you do, you are one.  If not, then you're not.  Pretty simple.

[BigEd76]

FWIW, Michael Smith on an ESPN draft special today said that the Broncos and Eagles weren't offering much for Walker.

Denver offered Lelie and a 6th
The Eagles offered Hicks and Hollis