2006 Point & Laugh at the taterskins thread

[Geowhizzer]

That's how you know he wrote it instead of copying and pasting from somebody else.

No capital letters or punctuation.

That's about a dozen people here.

Bunch of illiterates. 

[Wingspan]

That's how you know he wrote it instead of copying and pasting from somebody else.

No capital letters or punctuation.

That's about a dozen people here.

No capital johnsons or dots

[PhillyPhreak54]

Ladies and gentleman, I present Art;

So, I'm in the stands for Dallas, enjoying myself and having a good time. Buzzed nicely, given morning tailgates are the one time in a man's life drinking before noon (hell, before 9 a.m.) is not only acceptable, but, required. I enjoy just sitting in the stands during games. Sometimes even more than being on the sidelines.

Perhaps I go to too few of the games to know whether society and gaming etiquette has changed on me, or, if this is the way it always was. A few years ago I was next to a couple of Rams fans. They cheered nicely and appropriately for their team. They were appropriately quiet and respectful otherwise. When taterskin fans started giving them the business just for wearing Rams uniforms, I was torn. Personally, I don't like opposition fans at games. But, if they show up, I do expect them to behave JUST like this couple did. And when the taterskin fans were in their face, I stopped the taterskin fan from doing this.

At this Cowboy game, I was faced with a different type of fan. A Cowboy fan who was not appropriately quiet and respectful. One who didn't cheer when his team did well, but, was loud and boosting of the Cowboys constantly. Let's Go Cowboys. Defense. Various chants of that sort. None profane. But, the way it was done, and with the constant throaty cheering, it was clear taterskin fans throughout the area were turning on him. A problem was going to develop and, frankly, this guy deserved a beating.

Trying to head this off, I grabbed the 45-pound security guard in our section and told him to keep an eye on that Cowboy fan because something was going to break out. The bottom line is, "Lets Go Cowboys," chants while the fans around are quiet for our offense to work is instigation and insulting to the home fans as it would be if I was singing Hail to the taterskins while the Cowboys had the ball in Texas Stadium.

Unfortunately, the security guard never did anything BUT sit on the steps right behind the guy, effectively allowing him to say anything he wanted while preventing anyone else from approaching him (me specifically) and telling him it was time to be respectful or leave. Fans in two sections became increasingly agitated. Taunts and profanity started going back and forth many rows away.

Yet, security sat there, doing absolutely nothing. I was disappointed. In a stadium where it is "policy" not to stand up unnecessarily -- meaning you cause fans behind you to stand up -- and where security can come to you and ask you to sit down, why is it a Cowboy fan was essentially able to push things right up to the brink before HE left on his own. He knew he had to leave. At least a dozen people were screaming at him that he was toast on the way out of the stadium. The guy behind him started yelling into his ear. It was going to blow up. And, the Cowboy fan left on his own.

My point is, I knew four minutes into the game he was a problem. I informed security. They did nothing. I'd love to see security essentially given the directive to tell opposition fans they are in a hostile environment. Cheer for their team, but, don't draw such attention to yourself you essentially are spitting in everyone's face.

That's my story. Next time, I don't tell security, so he stays down below. Then, I can put an early end to it myself .

[PhillyPhreak54]

So after some fans get on Art because he was crying about a rival fan making noise in a stadium Art comes back with this gem...and many Skins fans agree with him that opposing fans should not be allowed to speak when inside the stadium because it is bad fan etiquette...yeah, ok tough guy Art.

Guys, this is simple.

What this person was doing was ABSOLUTELY provocative. There's a difference between cheering your team, and doing things YOU KNOW are drawing individual attention to yourself to bring about confrontation. In the seconds after a big play for the team you cheer, your cheering is exactly appropriate.

Individual chants of defense, or constant loud noise, at all times, in the opposition stadium is, absolutely bad fan etiquette. If you think it's part of the process to act as you would at home, on the road, then, indeed, society has changed. Your obligation as a fan of the opposition on the road is to respect the house.

You wouldn't walk into a person's house for a dinner party and put your feet up on the coffee table. You know you wouldn't. You KNOW, "Hail to the taterskins," in the quiet of an offensive drive by the Cowboys in Texas Stadium would be YOU tring to provoke the Cowboy fans around you. And you wouldn't do it.

And if you're in charge of security at a stadium, you shouldn't allow it.

Frankly, though, if I owned the team, I'm not sure I'd prevent myself from making it one hell of a hostile place for fans of the opponent to come.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Now that I'm starting to get some time again, I may write columns again for taterskins.com. Out of practice so I just threw this one together to get my legs back. Enjoy or don't


Turn it Loose

by Arthur Mills
www.extremeskins.com


Doggedly my mother works on her beautiful daughter and No. 1 son to convert both to Christianity. I'm one of them agnostics. My mom's been more successful on my sister.

I mention this only because upon returning to the condo after the Cowboys game, my sister informs me proof of God was in the Nick Novak kick bending ever so sweetly from right of the uprights, to right in the uprights, gentled in by a caring hand from above.

Similar to church, a taterskins game with an ending like that is the only other time in society when complete strangers turn to each other and greet one another in community, though, the community at a football game smells of dribbled barley and tends to sting one's palms.

So, while I still don't believe in Him, some part of my faith has been restored.

WHEW.

The season spiraling into oblivion more rapidly than fans streaming out of FedEx before the Cowboys lined up for their field goal when the caring hand of Troy Vincent put some life back into the team, the fans and the season.

While one never tires of seeing Cowboy fans bemoan the inequity of having their beloved boys flagged for obvious flagrant facemasks, as difficult as it is, we must turn away from Dallas and focus on the immense good fortune laid out before us.

The taterskins gave themselves an opportunity to salvage the season.

The taterskins need Gregg Williams to make sure that happens.

Under Joe Gibbs, the taterskins have been a defensive team. They've been defined by a scrappy, intense, hard-hitting defense. They've been smarter defensively than other teams have been offensively. They've been daring. They don't sit back. They take something away from the opposition.

The defense has carried us. The defense has to carry us.

I have a man-crush on Coach Williams. I do.

So, when he tells us, as he's said before, he can scheme against individual areas of weakness in his players, I believe him. I know that's what he's tried to do much of this season.

Now it's time to stop that. I bet Coach Williams knows that.

To protect against coverage deficiencies and avoid getting beaten deep, Williams deployed a defensive system that took away much of what we've been for two years. Removing the aggressive, cocky, "We know what you're about to do," feel to the defense to protect against the deep pass has only served to remove the identity of the entire team, while doing absolutely nothing to limit the deep pass.

For two years the taterskins lined up on defense and did things to the opposition essentially telling them they may win, but they will win doing the things WE make them do. This year, teams are beating us doing the things they want to do.

Right. Mike Nolan.

That's not who we are.

It's not who we can be.

We can't take the swagger away from ourselves.

There's hope.

I attend most taterskin games on the road and a handful at home. Before the first Dallas play, our defense was standing there, facing the Cowboys, dancing around, jumping around, pointing. I remembered that from the last two years. The defense was always ready. It was always waiting on the offense as if it knew exactly what was happening.

This year the defense has never been ready. We have guys streaming in late, we're in the huddle as the offense is walking to the ball. Seeing the guys doing that again throughout the game, I remembered the defense we used to have and can still have.

Our defense is about dictating.

Without it, we're ordinary. The opportunity in front of us now is to be who we should be...who we are.

Against Philly, we need Vincent back in single safety. Put Sean Taylor and Adam Archuleta in the box. Pull Warrick Holdman off the field, not for poor play, but to give yourself more speed and opportunities against an offense that leans pass with an athletic QB who can hurt you with the scramble.

Bring pressure. Take away the things they like to do in favor of the things you make them do. Force Donovan McNabb into quick decisions. Take chances. If they beat you anyway, at least you know they did it with you doing what you do best. But, something tells me, if we play that way, the outcome will go our way.

Turn it loose.

[MDS]

He can't be a real person. He just can't. I can't stand it. I'm going to kill him.

[Rome]

The Eagles are going to obliterate that horseshtein team.

And then hopefully Art and his minions will kill themselves in a fit of ritualistic insanity.

[mpmcgraw]

I am hoping McNabb catches the flu on Sunday.

Watching the taterskins getting destroyed by Jeff Garcia would be hilarious.

[SD_Eagle5]

I hope Art's at the game Sunday and that I somehow run into him.

[MDS]

Touch him, and feel the coaching angel.

[shorebird]

That makes me want to puke.

The few times I've been to Fed Ex, I was loud as anything rooting for the Eagles. It's a shame Art wasn't there to show me how to act properly.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I made it to the send off with Pez, Huly and Gibbs the Dog!
It was great to see MontanaRed, Stwasm and SkinsNatfans and meet the new faces!

Coach Gibbs came out and hung out with us fans! We sang Hail to the taterskins as the buses pulled out. As we waved, at the back of one of the buses, one of the players actually mooned us. Who??? We don't know. But we saw PLENTY!

Here are my pics!

Huly, Gibbs The Dog & HSF
HSF
Coach Gibbs

This from one of the losers who drive out to see the players get on a bus and then drive away.

[SD_Eagle5]

As we waved, at the back of one of the buses, one of the players actually mooned us. Who??? We don't know. But we saw PLENTY!

That bare male asses excite them doesn't surprise me.

[PhillyPhreak54]

One kid over there goes to Archuletta's wifes myspace page and tells her he sucks...

She then leaves him a comment telling him to go farg himself and its the coaches who suck.

http://www.myspace.com/abed_bidou

[MDS]

These are pathetic, pathetic people. Wastes of human life. Kill them all the better mankind.