2006 Point & Laugh at the taterskins thread

[Wingspan]

no one is saying the skins arent farg ups and they deserve huge laughter for their player personel dealings.....but at least they try...

if the eagles had done 1/10th in free agency what the skins have done over the last five years theyd have a superbowl

based on the 5 superbowls the skins have won in that time period. i totally agree!

[ice grillin you]

so essentially youre saying the skins are the eagles equal in player evaluation?

[phattymatty]

We downplay FA and have 5 years in a row of 11+ wins.

actually we have 0 years in a row.

[Mad-Lad]

with randle el and lloyd being added to the skins WRs, the Eagles DBs just got really tall.

[rjs246]

Ha.

[MURP]

no one is saying the skins arent farg ups and they deserve huge laughter for their player personel dealings.....but at least they try...

you could look at it either way.  They certainly dont try to build and semblance of chemistry through the building of a team in the draft.

[ice grillin you]

yeah but we arent talking about the eagles building a team...we are talking about adding very good players to an already very good team to = a great team...we are talking about getting team from nfc championship to superbowl win...not from 5-11 to wild card

[MadMarchHare]

And it's impossible to think they believe they have the pieces to do it now.  Sure, at WR and SAM it's hard to believe.....
But this FO has only made the quick splash with big dough for guys they felt were superstars at a position they needed help at.  Runyan, TO, Kearse.  Outside of Bentley, who was that exactly?  And I'm guessing they felt they didn't need a center, that either Fraley or Jackson was the answer.  We'll have to see if they're right.  It's farging March people.  Watch basketball.

[Wingspan]

so essentially youre saying the skins are the eagles equal in player evaluation?

1 playoff win in those same five years vs 6

[ice grillin you]

right so if the eagles with their superior PP dept went out and was aggresive in FA every year as the skins are wouldnt you believe that the players the eagles got would help their team substantially more since they would make the right decisions

then maybe youd have:

1 SB win in those same five years vs 1 playoff win

[MadMarchHare]

Possible yes.  Assured no.

[Rome]

GOD SPEAKS!

Posted on Wed, Mar. 15, 2006

Gibbs defends taterskins free agent approach

JOSEPH WHITE
Associated Press

ASHBURN, Va. - Joe Gibbs defended the Washington taterskins' aggressive approach to free agency on Wednesday, dismissing any implication that the team is somehow circumventing the NFL's salary cap.

"The thing I want to emphasize is this: We haven't done one thing that anybody else can't do," the taterskins' Hall of Fame coach said following a news conference to introduce free agent signing Andre Carter. "We have certain rules in the league. Here's the cap, here's the numbers, here's what you can spend, so everybody in the league can do what we're doing, it's just that they choose not to, many of them."

Despite starting the month some $13 million over the $102 million cap that was set following negotiations for a new collective bargaining agreement, the taterskins have once again been one of March's busiest teams.

Since Saturday, they have traded for San Francisco receiver Brandon Lloyd and signed five unrestricted free agents: receiver Antwaan Randle El, safety Adam Archuleta, tight end Christian Fauria, backup quarterback Todd Collins and Carter. Randle El and Archuleta alone were given contracts with a combined $21.5 million in guaranteed money.

"Each team's a little different, how they want to build a team. ... Certainly Pittsburgh is a scheme that works, they won a Super Bowl," Gibbs said. "If you watch their team, there are a lot of draft choices, they're real conscious about that. It remains to be seen how we'll end up doing, but we've chosen to be more aggressive in free agency."

The taterskins put themselves under the cap by cutting five expendable players on the eve of free agency, and they also saved $4.4 million in the deal that made linebacker LaVar Arrington a free agent. Since then, they've been cutting cap dollars by renegotiating contracts with returning veterans, giving the players upfront bonuses that can be prorated for salary cap purposes.

Owner Dan Snyder's overspending in 2000 caused then-coach Marty Schottenheimer to make drastic cuts in 2001, but Snyder's strategy since then has been to map out a cap strategy using what Gibbs said were "three- to four-year spreadsheets." The goal is to shift cap money around in a coherent manner that keeps the team from being forced to part with players it wants to keep.

It hasn't worked perfectly - coveted linebacker Antonio Pierce left for the New York Giants last year - but Gibbs' free agency upgrades helped get the taterskins into the playoffs last year, and the overhaul continues. Only five projected 2006 starters were with the team before Gibbs arrived in January 2004.

The best free agent additions under Gibbs have been linebacker Marcus Washington, cornerback Shawn Springs, defensive tackle Cornelius Griffin and defensive end Phillip Daniels.
"People say, 'Why would you go get the free agents?'" Gibbs said. "Well, look at the guys we wouldn't have on our football team."

The taterskins are able to afford huge signing bonuses because Snyder's marketing savvy has helped make the team one of the most profitable in sports, but Gibbs downplayed the connection between Snyder's fortune and the team's free agency haul.

"The biggest misrepresentation there is that (it's because) Dan's got a lot of money. That's not it," Gibbs said. "We've got a rule. Believe me, if we had no rules, Dan would spend some money."

Laughable.  Utterly laughable.

[qwert246]

Laughable.  Utterly laughable.

What's laughable is that you took Bentley off your wishlist.

[Rome]

Laughable.  Utterly laughable.

What's laughable is that you took Bentley off your wishlist.

Are all taterskins fans as dense as this one?  Seriously.

[sharpie]

ProFootballTalks........

PFT TEN-PACK:  FREE AGENCY WINNERS, LOSERS

Now that the first wave of free agency has thrown millions of new money into the pockets of plenty of players, let's take a time out and look at the biggest winners and biggest losers after five full days of activity.


First, the winners:


1.  Antwaan Randle El:  35 catches in 2005.  $11.5 million in bonus money in 2006.  Should anyone be surprised when T.O. wants $18 million to sign?   



2.  Arizona Cardinals:  Finally, the Bidwills realize that sometimes you've gotta spend money to make money. 



3.  Edgerrin James:  He learned everything he knows about grabbing the most coin from Peyton Manning.



4.  Miami Dolphins:  Daunte Culpepper for a second-round pick?  In 17 states, that constitutes rape.



5.  Adam Archuleta:  No offense intended, but if this guy can get $10 million in guaranteed coin, we've still got a chance to catch on somewhere for the league minimum.

6.  Cleveland Browns:  With John Collins counting beans somewhere other than in the team's front office, Phil Savage finally can put his imprint on the frnachise.



7.  Uncle Sam:  Perhaps the biggest winner in this process, the Internal Revenue Service scored millions in tax dollars after the CBA extension pushed the salary cap above nine figures.



8.  Drew Brees:  Though his contract is only a one-year arrangement, $10 million for a guy with a bad shoulder and a mixed track record ain't too shabby.



9.  Jon Kitna:  The former Bengals starter who was bumped out of a job by the No. 1 overall pick in 2003 gets a chance to start again after bumping out the No. 3 overall pick in 2002.



10:  Steve Hutchinson:  An interior offensive lineman gets a $49 million contract?  What's next?  $45 million for a kicker?



Now for the losers:



1.  Indianapolis Colts:  Edgerrin James, Larry Tripplett, and David Thornton are gone for good.  Do you think Bill Polian might be having second thoughts about his decision to tie up so much money in his second and third receivers?



2.  The Postons:  They overpriced their clients who were hitting the market, and as a result none of them got a sniff when the money was flowing like liquid from an elephant with IBS.  To add insult to ignorance, Carl is now facing a two-year unpaid vacation.



3.  Washington taterskins:  We suggest that Dan Snyder satisfy his insatiable hunger for collecting NFL players at an unjustifiable premium by searching for McFarlane figures on eBay.   

4.  Jamal Lewis:  The guy who pouted for a couple of years regarding the lack of a long-term, blockbuster deal stays in Baltimore for what amounts to a one-year, $6 million contract.



5.  Oakland Raiders:  To address the various holes in its roster, the Raiders have done . . . absolutely freakin' nothing.



6.  Kris Jenkins:  With Damione Lewis and Maake Kemoeatu added to the rotation at defensive tackle, Jenkins' days as a Panther could be numbered.



7.  Green Bay Packers:  All that cap space, and no significant additions.  To make matters worse, Lord Favre is now trying to play G.M.



8.  Eric Moulds:  By sitting on his rights when everyone knows they'll eventually cut him, the Bills blocked Moulds' shot at getting one last solid payday.



9.  New York Giants:  First they let Kendrick Clancy slip away.  Then they sign every washed up defensive back that's on the market.



10.  Jon Runyan:  The guy decides to take a vacation to the Caymans at a time when NFL teams are working overtime to give money away.  Who's he getting advice from, Ross Verba?