Sixers Season 3

PoopyfaceMcGee · April 13, 2006, 07:45:12 AM

Why does ANYONE want this team to actually make the playoffs?

ice grillin you · April 13, 2006, 08:17:13 AM

iverson is playing out of his mind right now

last five games averaging 35 and 8 last two games 66 pts and 25 assists

at his size and age it is simply amazing what hes doing

reese125 · April 13, 2006, 08:26:18 AM

Do you realize that we could of had Joe Johnson from the Suns for Dalembert when Colangelo was there, but King turned it down cause he still thinks Dalembert is Kareem. Johnson would of been huge for us on the perimeter as well as switched to PG, which rolls out AI as SG.

AI
JJ
Iggy
Webber
Hunter--??

Korver and Green off the bench

no question

hunt · April 13, 2006, 08:29:19 AM

jj wouldv'e been a perfect fit alongside a1. oh well, another billy king screwup.

hunt · April 13, 2006, 08:39:21 AM

Quote"Derreck (Veneta, OR): C'mon Jim, I know it's a touchy subject, but do you feel any vindication seeing how the Sixers have performed this year with basically the same roster as you had last season?

Jim O'Brien: I really don't think I needed to feel vindicated. We took a team that won 33 games the year before and won 43 and got them into the playoffs. What is interesting is that Billy King is starting to realize his young players are not as good as he thought they were. When we took over in Philly and he told me of his opinion of all his young players I did not agree that they were nearly as good as he thought they were. Defense is hurting them badly. We were 11th in field-goal defense last year and now they are 22nd. It is also interesting to see that the fans have turned their backs on what is happening. "

i agree with this...king overvalued korver, green & dalembert big time.

ice grillin you · April 13, 2006, 08:58:21 AM

dalembert perhaps...but i still think he can turn into a theo ratliff type player with a couple more years experience

korver isnt overvalued...his contract is about right for a great three point guy...its his usage that is off...if king is dictating the minutes and role he is playing then he definitely overvalued him...i tend to believe it has more to do with them not having any guards and korver is getting the minutes he does because they dont have other options as opposed to king thinking hes better than he is

green wasnt getting huge money...tho im not 100% sure what king thinks of green...if he thinks hes a starting guard in the league then no...if hes used as instant offense off the bench then hes fine

money wise and i think thats what we are talking about in terms of overvaluing...i dont see a big problem with any of these guys unless dalembert totally flops

Mad-Lad · April 13, 2006, 09:00:20 AM

asking the ex-coach of the team about the situtation isn't going to necessarily lead to any truths, especially when he got canned for sucking. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

I think the team is plenty talented. They're just unenthusiastic, disinterested, and don't play together as a team. That's a huge problem with the NBA.

hunt · April 13, 2006, 09:25:38 AM

i meant overvalued in terms of what role king thought those guys were capable of playing....korver is not a starting caliber sf...he's a 3 point specialist. dalembert is not a force in the middle...he's an inconsistent head-case. and willie green type players are a dime a dozen in the nba.
based on king's recent comments, he's starting to realize his mistakes...let's hope he can correct them.

reese125 · April 13, 2006, 09:40:44 AM

Quote from: Mad-Lad on April 13, 2006, 09:00:20 AM
asking the ex-coach of the team about the situtation isn't going to necessarily lead to any truths, especially when he got canned for sucking. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

I think the team is plenty talented. They're just unenthusiastic, disinterested, and don't play together as a team. That's a huge problem with the NBA.

2 things here.....Jim Obrien (who i dislike regardless), threw out some eye-opening stats, and numbers dont lie, especially when you have the same players. So there is plenty truth to what he is saying

those 3 characteristics you just spat off-- lies on the coach in a big way. Again, I dont think Cheeks is the kind of coach this team needs--the guy is simply not intimidating. These players, although they might respect him as a player and what he did for Philly, need to know the coach is going to lay down some hard discipline-which makes you play a hell of alot harder EVERY night.

hunt · April 13, 2006, 12:17:11 PM

it's never too early for a mock draft.

http://www.draftexpress.com/mock.php?y=2006

ice grillin you · April 13, 2006, 12:21:45 PM

i like brewer but hes kind of tweener to me...cant shoot to play the two and cant handle to play the one....rmeinds me of a lot of salmons

the sixers need a true point...which is why rondo is the clear pick if hes there

hunt · April 13, 2006, 12:26:01 PM

QuoteThere is little doubt that Tubby Smith evicted some of his tough
recruiting luck when Rajon Rondo fell into his lap. Originally
focused on his hometown Cardinals, Rondo didn't hesitate when the
big blue skipper came calling with a scholarship.

Rondo is a Smith player if there ever was one, a defensive hound
that changes the game with his wingspan and instincts. In his first
year, all the dynamic guard did was set the school record for steals
in a season, demonstrating that he was perhaps the quickest player
in college basketball. There are times when Rondo is on the court
that it appears he's moving a few steps faster than the rest of the
players. While for some players this could be nothing more an
interesting sidenote or even possibly a detriment, for Rondo this is
the trait that feeds all his other strengths.

Rondo's unusually long arms and giant hands, combined with his
quickness, adds up to an enormous amount of steals leading to easy
scores. In fact, Rondo's attention to defense may be his most
promising trait as a player.

The Kentucky point guard also has already displayed pro-caliber body
control, which makes him difficult to stop on the drive. Like Allen
Iverson, another speedster, Rondo uses his athleticism to create
space between himself and a defender even when he's already in the
air.

Rondo has a great demeanor for a major college point guard. Rarely
in a rush, his complete control of the ball gives him time to scan
the whole court. He is most adept on the fast break, where whomever
is trailing the play better keep his eyes open.

Rondo began his career with a penchant for the spectacular, throwing
a few too many passes away for his coaches' taste. However, as his
freshman season wore on, Rondo got better with the ball. While
competing with several other top points for a spot on the Team USA
U-21 club, the ever-improving Rondo wowed scouts and coaches with
his heady play and cool demeanor.

Rondo's offensive game is still a work in progress. While his shot
has improved, he is not ready to play in the NBA. For Rondo to take
the next step, he must become a more consistent perimeter threat. He
is hesitant to shoot unless wide open, but once defenders have to
respect his shot, it will open up the court for his very effective
dribble drive.

Early indications are that Rondo's improvement offensively has taken
leaps ands bounds. If so, scouts are sure to take notice.

The fact that he is only 6-1 (below average size for an NBA PG) also
will never be considered a feather in his cap.

phattymatty · April 13, 2006, 02:02:56 PM

Quote from: FFatPatt on April 13, 2006, 07:45:12 AM
Why does ANYONE want this team to actually make the playoffs?

It still goes by record regardless. So the difference between them being the 8th seed and the first one out of the playoffs is one pick. I'd rather see them possibly steal a game or two then for them to be totally done.

phattymatty · April 13, 2006, 02:06:25 PM

i haven't seen much of rondo but my pick for the sixers would be either marcus williams or dee brown.

Mad-Lad · April 13, 2006, 02:40:32 PM

I'd hate to see Dee Brown in a Sixers uniform.