Next years starting Oline

Feva · January 30, 2006, 11:20:57 AM

Quote from: MadMarchHare on January 30, 2006, 10:15:51 AM
Didn't Runyan have one of those this year (can't remember if it was a catch or fumble...)

Yeah, he scooped up a McMahon fumble (surprise, surprise), and leveled a defender at the end of his run. Funny as hell.

PhillyPhanInDC · January 30, 2006, 11:29:20 AM

Quote from: EagleFeva on January 30, 2006, 11:20:57 AM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on January 30, 2006, 10:15:51 AM
Didn't Runyan have one of those this year (can't remember if it was a catch or fumble...)
Yeah, he scooped up a McMahon fumble (surprise, surprise), and leveled a defender at the end of his run. Funny as hell.

[Madden] A big ole' lineman just loves a shot to run with the ball....[/Madden]

BigEd76 · January 30, 2006, 12:14:49 PM

Diomedes · January 30, 2006, 12:37:41 PM

That's a great pic. Looks like he's going to eat that little LSU player.

PhillyPhanInDC · January 30, 2006, 05:05:29 PM

What you don't see is the shtein and piss running down number eight's pant leg. That's gonna hurt.

Eaglez · January 30, 2006, 10:17:16 PM

Is everyone sold on Jamaal Jackson at C? I'm not completely.

I'd rather have a quick, agile center who can get to the 2nd level for speedier guys like Westbrook and Moats. Someone who can pull and get out to the edge. I'm tired of these 300 pound pieces of lard floating around and clogging up space.

I like the kid from OSU. I can't remember his name but I think he would be a nice fit for this offense. Seems like a smart kid, can make good coverage calls, and is lean enough to move around in tight quarters.

Eaglez · January 30, 2006, 10:19:16 PM

Here he is:

Nick Mangold

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/c/nickmangold.html

Rome · January 30, 2006, 10:27:43 PM

Holy crap, Z. That site nearly gave me a seizure...

Anyway, here's the dope on Mangold so you guys don't have to visit the site and be temporarily blinded...

QuoteStrengths:
Has good size and the frame to add more weight...Technically sound and plays with good leverage...Solid athlete with good quickness who moves well...Smart and a hard worker...Makes all the calls and is a leader along the offensive line...Competitive and plays with a nasty demeanor...Durable player who has started since 2003...Still has some upside with further physical development.

Weaknesses:
Does not have a wide base...Needs to hit the weight room and get stronger...Will struggle head-to-head against massive nose tackles...Is not very explosive or dominant...Doesn't always hold his blocks as long as he needs to...Does not get a great push in the run game...May not be a great fit in just any scheme.

Notes:
Probable starter in the middle...Might fit best in a zone blocking scheme...Has all the tools you look for and his experience and intangibles push him over the top.

PhillyPhreak54 · January 30, 2006, 11:27:44 PM

Mangold is good, but he'll go way before I'd prefer to see them spend a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a C who is smaller than Hank Fraley.

Plus Fraley is still under contract as is Jackson. It'll be one of those two guys starting.

pinoyboy2pt0 · January 31, 2006, 02:13:13 AM

I love Jamaal Jackson.

Feva · January 31, 2006, 04:41:31 PM

QuoteWeaknesses:
Does not have a wide base...Needs to hit the weight room and get stronger...Will struggle head-to-head against massive nose tackles...Is not very explosive or dominant...Doesn't always hold his blocks as long as he needs to...Does not get a great push in the run game...May not be a great fit in just any scheme.

Is this the scouting report for Mangold or Fraley?

proveagle · February 01, 2006, 01:56:09 AM

I would be less concerned about the Eagles fielding a young Oline if they would actually run the ball alot more. Run blocking is more instinctive/physical and less technical/scheme knowledge.

I like Reid but my concern with him always comes down to him trying to force his players to play to his scheme and not adjusting his scheme to better suit the teams strengths. If they go into the season with that young, big, physical lineup I hope Reid is smart enough to pound the ball and not try to make them play pass protection 70% of the time and constantly picking up blitzes.

Eaglez · February 01, 2006, 08:31:53 PM

I just always found it funny that, on average, we usually have the largest offensive line (both in height and weight) year in and year out, but 70% of the time they are dropping back in pass protection.

I think Reid 'wussified' them somewhat. When your line has that much mass and you don't trust them to pick up a 3rd and 1 or 2, then I think there are some problems.

pinoyboy2pt0 · February 01, 2006, 08:42:50 PM

Always kinda baffled me too. He gets road graders who excel in the run game and then it's like, forget that, you're going to be walking backwards 70% of the time for the next 6 months.

Feva · February 02, 2006, 07:07:11 AM

Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on February 01, 2006, 08:42:50 PM
Always kinda baffled me too. He gets road graders who excel in the run game and then it's like, forget that, you're going to be walking backwards 70% of the time for the next 6 months.

Did someone say Shawn Andrews?