Reid article today

ice grillin you · January 27, 2006, 09:19:33 AM

i think the point is that the steelers only have ONE willie parker

PhillyPhreak54 · January 27, 2006, 09:24:54 AM

And the reason that the undrafted, speedy, total unknown in college is a good RB is because of the scheme and the OL.

Which is my whole point - if you OL opens holes it does not matter who is running it. And if your coach calls runs, too.

rjs246 · January 27, 2006, 09:26:31 AM

Pittsburgh isn't in the Sb without Bettis. That's my point.

PhillyPhreak54 · January 27, 2006, 09:28:35 AM

I don't deny that, which is why I said a trio of Westbrook-Moats and whoever they get to be th "big back" would be fine as long as the OL and the HC get it done.

ice grillin you · January 27, 2006, 09:28:53 AM

And the reason that the undrafted, speedy, total unknown in college is a good RB is because of the scheme and the OL

i dont think anyone is questioning that...at least im not...im just saying they didnt need to take moats at that point in the draft...as you said with the right scheme and line ANYONE can run well...so why waste a third on a rb that you already have...when you could have gotten another back off the streets

rjs246 · January 27, 2006, 09:30:29 AM

Phreak, the fact that you are working under the assumption that they will go get a big back shows a HUGE leap of faith on your part. I hope you're right because I can't handle another year of third and longs on every drive because the team can't gain yardage on first and second down.

PhillyPhreak54 · January 27, 2006, 09:31:14 AM

Which is exactly why they don't need to draft LenDale White.

I'mnot going to blast them for going RB in the 3rd. I wanted Moats and I thought it was a good pick. At that point in time I'm looking for good football players and i think Moats can be one. I'm cool with RB in the 3rd and that's why I didn't trip on the Westbrook pick in '02. Duce was a 3rd rounder and Buck was a 4th.

Rome · January 27, 2006, 09:31:58 AM

So, what do you think the chances are that the Eagles will draft LenDale White?

rjs246 · January 27, 2006, 09:33:47 AM

God forbid they draft a big running back who can contribute right away in the first round. Why not draft 3rd and 4th rounders who can ride the pine/get minimal paying time as rookies and delay any potential contribution to the team for another year?

ice grillin you · January 27, 2006, 09:33:58 AM

Which is exactly why they don't need to draft LenDale White

i definitely would take white in a second...im saying in your opinion backs can be gotten anywhere...yet you liked the moats pick...doesnt make sense to me

sallad selgae · January 27, 2006, 09:37:50 AM

Unfortunately, having all these players who can create "offensive mismatches" for defenses are now creating defensive mismatches against the offense, and the other teams are now realizing it. Smith, Westbrook and Moats are not great at blocking / providing protection for DM. Opposing teams are realizing that and taking advantage. We need a couple of good blocking first, creating second players who can pick up the short two yard, third down plays.

SunMo · January 27, 2006, 09:39:45 AM

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 27, 2006, 09:31:58 AM
So, what do you think the chances are that the Eagles will draft LenDale White?

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rjs246 · January 27, 2006, 09:41:20 AM

ss said sometihng intelligent!! That's what was awesome about Duce. Did he bust 50 yarders? No. Did he pick up the blitz and get yards up the middle? Yep.

MURP · January 27, 2006, 09:45:44 AM

If the Eagles carry 4 RB's and two of them are Westbrook and Moats, what is the problem? The problem isnt Westbrook or Moats its the other 2 RB's and Reids lack of using the run game. Everyone is quick to forget that Lamar Gordon was on the team. 6'1 225. There was your bigger back and he faded into oblivion.

PhillyPhreak54 · January 27, 2006, 09:47:36 AM

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 27, 2006, 09:33:58 AM
Which is exactly why they don't need to draft LenDale White

i definitely would take white in a second...im saying in your opinion backs can be gotten anywhere...yet you liked the moats pick...doesnt make sense to me

I'm of the opinion that there is a certain area of the draft when it is OK to go for a RB. While there are studs who come out in the 1st two rounds I realize that. But when yu get to the 3rd round and below, in my opinion, that is where itis OK to start looking at backs. Thats' why I had no beef with the Moats pick. Plus I liked him a lot last year.

I agree with Reid that the OL and DL (and other positions like DB) should be the main focus early. I thought that even before Reid got here. You can't do nothing unless you protect the QB and get after the QB on defense and be able to defend the pass.

So basically I know that backs can be found lower and in UDFA, but I don't mind a 3rd round pick on one because that is the area where you start maybe taking some gambles.

RJS,

I firmly believe Reid knows he needs a bruiser. As much as some folks would like to think so, Reid isn't dumb. He saw the struggles this year. That's why I think that this talk about a getting back to being more balanced as well as him knowing the OL needs help is a precursor to getting the right guy to the big back.