Senior Bowl Thread

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Robinson might be rusty as RB or WR, but he'll still get a late-round shot, FWIW.

[Rome]

From ESPN Insider...

The big news coming out of the afternoon practice was Michael Robinson finally getting some reps as a wide receiver. Robinson continued to play the quarterback position during some of the unit drills and team sessions, but he spent a lot of time during the first half of practice working on his route-running and pass-catching skills.

Robinson understandably dropped a few catchable passes and looked extremely raw running routes. However, he received a lot of instruction from coaches and showed some improvement as practice progressed. Robinson is a fluid athlete with decent speed for the wide receiver position. He is a strong runner with very good vision and toughness.

The former Penn State standout could possibly contribute in a versatile role in the NFL as a third-down back and slot receiver. He also showed upside as a return specialist and got some work shagging balls off the JUGS machine during special teams sessions at the end of practice.

[Rome]

Uh-oh for Kiwi...

Monday (1/23/06): Kiwanuka added some bulk but still looks to be in very good shape. He shows very good initial burst and speed off the edge as a pass rusher. He gives a good effort and shows a good motor in practice, but he did not make many big plays today. Kiwanuka did not stand out as an elite prospect. He seems a bit tentative at times. His biggest problem today was getting off of blocks. He needs to do a better job with his hands and improve his array of pass rush moves.

Tuesday (1/24/06): Kiwanuka has some rare gifts for an edge player with his pure speed and outstanding frame and arm length. Just due to his size, Kiwanuka stood out amongst an undersized group of defensive ends from the North, but he didn't make all that many plays in Tuesday's practice and his off-the-ball quickness is rather ordinary. What is not ordinary however, is his ability to eat up ground with his huge strides. As a pass rusher, he doesn't explode off the snap, but gains ground very quickly and also uses these gifts to make plays across the field in pursuit. Although he was a bit tentative today, he is still asserting himself as the top defensive end on the North roster and his upside is undeniable.

Wednesday (1/25/06): Kiwanuka had a rough day on Wednesday. During the one-on-one pass rush drills, Jeremy Trueblood, his Boston College teammate, torqued him to the ground injuring his left shoulder or wrist. Also during one-on-ones, Kiwanuka was repeatedly abused by D'Brickashaw Ferguson and was simply no match for the elite offensive tackle prospect. While losing out to Ferguson is a regular occurrence for every defensive end in attendance, Kiwanuka also had a rough time against Boise State's Daryn Colledge who got the better of Kiwanuka during the MPC Computers' Bowl. Kiwanuka needs to prove that he can be successful against top competition. He has yet to do so this week.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

It sounds like Kiwanuka would be a huge stretch at #14.

[Dillen]

Not a huge stretch, he still has amazing potential. I think he'll work his way up back to 10-20.

[ice grillin you]

defensive ends are a total crap shoot...i hate taking them in round one...see justin smith courtney brown andre wadsworth ebenezer ekuban ect....

im sure im missing one or two but since simeon rice i cant think of any round one defensive ends that really turned out great other than peppers and  freeny

[SunMo]

Jerome McDougle, Mike Mamula, Jon Harris...

[SunMo]

Hugh was a 1st by the Jets, right?

[MURP]

defensive ends are a total crap shoot..

as is every position. 

[ice grillin you]

defensive ends are much MORE of a crap shoot

[PhillyPhreak54]

1st round DE's since 1996:

Simeon Rice - stud (ARZ '96)
Darryl Gardner - average for a few years (MIA '96)
Cedric Jones - bust (NYG '96)
Regan Upshaw - role player (TB '96)
Trevor Pryce [DT & DE] - solid (DEN '97)
Kenny Holmes - average (HOU '97)
Renaldo Wynn - average (JAX '97)
Jon Harris - bustariffic (PHI '97)
Kenard Lang - below average (WAS '97)
Andre Wadsworth - bust (ARZ '98)
Jason Peter - bust (CAR '98)
Greg Ellis - decent (DAL '98)
Vonnie Holliday - average (GB '98)
Grant Wistrom - good (STL '98)
Patrick Kerney - good (ATL '99)
Ebenezer Ekuban - role player (DAL '99)
Dimitrus Underwood - bust & nutjob (MIN '99)
Lamar King - bust (SEA '99)
Jevon Kearse - stud (TEN '99)
Erik Flowers - bust (BUF '00]
Courtney Brown - bust (CLE '00]
Shaun Ellis - stud (NYJ '00]
John Abraham - stud (NYJ '00]
Justin Smith - average (CIN '01)
Jamal Reynolds - bust (GB '01)
Richard Seymour [DT & DE] - stud (NE '01)
Andre Carter - bust (SF '01)
Julius Peppers - stud (CAR '02)
Dwight Freeney - stud (NE '02)
Bryan Thomas - bust (NYJ '02)
Terrell Suggs - very good (BAL '03)
Michael Haynes - bust (CHI '03)
Jerome McDougle - below average, not a bust yet due to injury (PHI '03)
Kenechi Udeze - don't know yet (MIN '04)
Will Smith - don't know yet (NO '04)

NOt going to list '05, way too early

[rjs246]

Classifying Kearse as a stud right now makes me laugh.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I was going mostly off of what he did in TEN. But laugh it up.

[Rome]

Classifying Kearse as a stud right now makes me laugh.

He's certainly farging paid like one...

[Wingspan]

Patrick Kerney
Peter Boulware
Shaun Ellis
Terrell Suggs
Will Smith

justin smith isnt bad either.

demarcus ware was a DE in college, so i dont know if you want to count that as he is a LB now.
kevin williams switched to DT this season i think. but again, far from a bust.

all these were first rnd DE's taken since simeon rice.