Obama Continues Bush's Illegal Drone Surveillance

Started by Rome, December 16, 2005, 08:52:30 AM

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Butchers Bill

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{wishful thinking}

So THATS were my Amex bill went the month after Christmas.

{/wishful thinking}

Seriously though, if this is true (the link is an editorial which is citing a known "rag"), the Dems need to exercise their new power and put a stop to it.

edit:

Here is an MSNBC link to the story.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16472777/

I believe I've passed the age of consciousness and righteous rage
I found that just surviving was a noble fight.
I once believed in causes too,
I had my pointless point of view,
And life went on no matter who was wrong or right.

MadMarchHare

See, Butch, this is why I worry about abdication.  What won't this farging guy do?
The only comfort is that most of the Congress and the military dislike him as much as I do.  So even if he wants to he probably can't.
Anyone but Reid.

Geowhizzer

If true, it's obviously unconstitutional.

Of course, does that mean anything?

Diomedes

"exigent circumstances," my ass.  Go ahead and keep arguing, those of you that do, that this administration isn't comparable to the early stages of Nazi germany.  all the stage is set.

awful.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Rome

I can't believe we haven't seen massive terrorist attacks in this country yet.  Talk about a perfect opportunity for those thugs to declare martial law and suspend parts of the Constitution they don't agree with (like the entire Bill of Rights, for example).

It'll happen eventually.

Diomedes

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 04, 2007, 07:43:24 PMTalk about a perfect opportunity for those thugs to ...suspend parts of the Constitution they don't agree with (like the entire Bill of Rights, for example).

They're already doing it, dook.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Diomedes

more secrecy at the White House.  the principle of an open, transparent government accountable to the people is not part of the Bush regime's view of the U.S.

QuoteASHINGTON (AP) -- The White House and the Secret Service quietly signed an agreement last spring in the midst of the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal declaring records identifying visitors to the White House are not open to the public.

The Bush administration did not reveal the existence of the memorandum of understanding until last fall.

The White House is using it to deal with a legal problem on a separate front, a ruling by a federal judge ordering the production of Secret Service logs identifying visitors to the office of Vice President Dick Cheney.

In a federal appeals court filing three weeks ago, the administration's lawyers used the memo in a legal argument aimed at overturning the judge's ruling. The Washington Post is suing for access to the Secret Service logs.

The five-page document dated May 17 declares that all entry and exit data on White House visitors belongs to the White House as presidential records rather than to the Secret Service as agency records.

Therefore, the agreement states, the material is not subject to public disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act.

In the past, Secret Service logs have revealed the comings and goings of various White House visitors, including Monica Lewinsky and Clinton campaign donor Denise Rich, the wife of fugitive financier Marc Rich, who received a pardon in the closing hours of the Clinton administration.

The memo last spring was signed by the White House and Secret Service the day after a Washington-based group asked a federal judge to impose sanctions on the Secret Service in a dispute over White House visitor logs for Abramoff.

The chief counsel to another Washington-based group suing to get Secret Service logs calls the creation of the memo "a political maneuver couched as a legal one."

"It appears the White House is actually manufacturing evidence to further its own agenda," Anne Weismann, a Justice Department lawyer for 19 years and now chief counsel to Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, said Friday.

The White House and the Secret Service declined to comment.

more at link:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/05/white.house.visitors.ap/index.html
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

MadMarchHare

I read that earlier.  The only saving grace is that he protects gun rights, so when we need to flee into the hills to fight the fascist takeover of our country, at least we'll be well armed.
Anyone but Reid.

Diomedes

Yeah...because AR-15s and Glocks are so effective against F-15s and bunker busters.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

MadMarchHare

Anyone but Reid.

Diomedes

Perhaps it does once in a while, but IEDs are doing the real damage.  Snipers are doing some damage as well.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

MadMarchHare

Dude, I'm a combination chemist and biologist.  I'm much more dangerous than an IED.
Anyone but Reid.

Diomedes

That semi truck in Miami that was supposedly a threat?  Non threat.
The package that tested positive for C4 six times today before it was blown up by cops (also in Miami)?  Also not a threat.

The fear mongering government propaganda designed to unsettle and scare people into obedience: mission accomplished
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Seabiscuit36

Isnt that a CSI Miami Episode Dio  :-D  I must have missed that but on CSI they had a Semi packed with C4 going to Turkey Point Nuclear plant, the Prez must have seen the episode too. 
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Diomedes

We're peppered with these security scares that turn out to be nothing, and then they tell us nothing--for security reasons--about the ones that are supposedly legit.

It's farging bullshtein.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger