Whostays,who goes, what do we need?

Started by stalker, December 06, 2005, 01:21:55 PM

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PoopyfaceMcGee

I hope to get offered some season tix after this season.  I've been on the waiting list for 4 years.

T_Section224

Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: T_Section224 on December 06, 2005, 01:49:41 PM
mahe made that list invalid, sorry.

Lito did. And he was the first name on there. LOL
i chalked that up to frustration, but keeping mahe was the nail in the coffin.
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PhillyGirl

LOL

I chalked it up to him being a bandwagoner and not knowing Lito signed long term and you can't just "Get rid of him".
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stalker

Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 02:19:30 PM
LOL

I chalked it up to him being a bandwagoner and not knowing Lito signed long term and you can't just "Get rid of him".

Number 1: I am not a bandwagoner just new to this site.

Number 2: Lito can be traded for value. He WAS a Probowl CB. He has been exposed as a fraud. However, he will bring value.

Number 3: Mahe catches the ball. That is absolutely the most important job of a punt returner. Catch the ball. Don't give up a turnover deep in your own territory.

Number 4: I was referring to whoever the number 4 receiver is right now. The guy we got from Washington.

Oh and one other thing. Stop getting guys from Rutgers! lombardi once said: "Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." McMahon was a loser in college, a loser with the Lions and look at us now! LJ, who is a tremendous talent, finds ways to make huge mistakes.

We need winners!
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henchmanUK

Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 01:51:10 PM
Mahe should come back as the new mascot next year.  :yay

Farg you PG, Swoop rulez! ;)
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PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: stalker on December 07, 2005, 08:59:29 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 02:19:30 PM
LOL

I chalked it up to him being a bandwagoner and not knowing Lito signed long term and you can't just "Get rid of him".
Number 2: Lito can be traded for value. He WAS a Probowl CB. He has been exposed as a fraud. However, he will bring value.

Don't take offense to this, but you need to learn how the salary cap works, man.

Lito Sheppard signed an 8 year $26.314M contract last year.

If he was cut or traded in 2006 then the Eagles would have to take a $6.480M cap hit in order to do that.

They will not carry that kind of dead money. So your scenario is null and void.

MURP

Quote from: stalker on December 07, 2005, 08:59:29 AM


Number 2: Lito can be traded for value. He WAS a Probowl CB. He has been exposed as a fraud. However, he will bring value.

If you think he has been exposed as a fraud, what kind of value are you expecting to get?

ice grillin you

gone
dhani
adams
any or all of the DT's save patterson
g lewis

need
real linebackers
run stuffing/physical dt's
punter
fullback
wr
coach

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhreak54

Obviously I don't share your thoughts on Reid, however...

I do agree that Jones should be sent packing along with the rest of those you listed except I would keep Adams as a STs guy and Greg Lewis as a 3-4th WR because he was good on STs last year.

I would keep Darwin Walker too.

SunMo

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 07, 2005, 09:17:08 AM


need
real linebackers
run stuffing/physical dt's




unfortunately, they don't value LB's very much, but maybe they change that philosophy this offseason and go after Julian Peterson.

as far as a run stuffing DT, i don't think that's happening either.  they love the undersized speed guys, and those guys don't stop the run.
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stalker

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 07, 2005, 09:11:39 AM
Quote from: stalker on December 07, 2005, 08:59:29 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 02:19:30 PM
LOL

I chalked it up to him being a bandwagoner and not knowing Lito signed long term and you can't just "Get rid of him".
Number 2: Lito can be traded for value. He WAS a Probowl CB. He has been exposed as a fraud. However, he will bring value.

Don't take offense to this, but you need to learn how the salary cap works, man.

Lito Sheppard signed an 8 year $26.314M contract last year.

If he was cut or traded in 2006 then the Eagles would have to take a $6.480M cap hit in order to do that.

They will not carry that kind of dead money. So your scenario is null and void.

I don't have the time to invest to understand the cap if I am not getting paid for it. Sometimes the cap hit is worth it. We have all seen deals structured over the last several years that addressed this problem. I don't pretend to know how this is done. Banner seems fairly bright in handling the cap (massive understatement).

The value I was referring to Murp, is owners like Snyder in Washington (and Minaya with the Mets, but that is another area)and people of that ilk. What did Snyder give to Bruce Smith? Or Deion? There is always a taker.
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ice grillin you

I would keep Adams as a STs guy and Greg Lewis as a 3-4th WR because he was good on STs last year

that fine...of course i wasnt saying straight up cut everyone...as that is for fantasy football players...im speaking in relation to their current roles on the team
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MURP

Quote from: stalker on December 07, 2005, 09:22:30 AM
What did Snyder give to Bruce Smith? Or Deion? There is always a taker.

Yeah, he gave them a lot of money... but neither were "exposed as frauds" and neither were traded for.  Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders were Free Agents at the time.

stalker

Quote from: MURP on December 07, 2005, 09:30:25 AM
Quote from: stalker on December 07, 2005, 09:22:30 AM
What did Snyder give to Bruce Smith? Or Deion? There is always a taker.

Yeah, he gave them a lot of money... but neither were "exposed as frauds" and neither were traded for.  Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders were Free Agents at the time.

Yeah, but guys like him fall in love with past glory and big names.
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Eaglez

I'm definitely on the bandwagon for better DT's and better OLB's. On further retrospection, I would keep Darwin and Patterson. Even though you barely hear Darwin's name called, he still is a steady DT. But Hollis and Rayburn are scrubs IMO and can't push the line of scrimmage backwards to save their lives.

I would keep Greg Lewis and put him back to a 4th WR role. Reggie Brown gets either the 3rd of 2nd, and I'm not sure what to do about 1 and 2, honestly.

I'll tell you this much, I'm not exactly thrilled about getting Pinkston back. I don't think he gives us an added boost to our offense whatsoever.