Hard truths to face before '06 Season

[ice grillin you]

did some cat with a naked man in his avatar just call for my banning

as for the wr question...the man for five years could not and/or would not upgrade his wide receiver positon...that answers any and all questions that you may have on the subject

[henchmanUK]

For real! IGY is the bestest coach/GM in the history of football

absolutely not...i just feel as though im better than andy reid

How very noble of you! Do you mind if I ask what your actual occupation is and what circumstances do you think have prevented you from becoming the modern-day equivalent of Vince Lombardi?

Bump.

[ice grillin you]

oh...my bad

i am a contracts (not football) specialist for the federal government

[henchmanUK]

Part one answered. Thank you. Now for part two.

what circumstances do you think have prevented you from becoming the modern-day equivalent of Vince Lombardi?

[phillywin2k5]

Eagles WR drafts since 2000:

00 2 36 Todd Pinkston WR Southern Mississippi
00 4 99 Gari Scott WR Michigan State
01 1 25 Freddie Mitchell WR UCLA
02 5 162 Freddie Milons WR Alabama
03 3 95 Billy McMullen WR Virginia
04 NONE

Talking about a failure! Only once did they take more than 1 WR, and where are each of these players today???

Stinky IR
Scott? Mitchell? Milons?
McMullen #4 or 5 WR for Eagles would have been cut by any other team by now.

A complete failure to produce quality offensive players by the Eagles coaching staff

reggie brown?

Still a rookie.

[phillywin2k5]

A complete failure to produce quality offensive players by the Eagles coaching staff

Brian Westbrook?

talking about WRs but though Westbrook is a different type of weapon without any good WRs the Defenses will tee off on him. Westbrook is no Marshall Faulk thats for sure!

And who else besides McNabb and Westbrook have really been playmakers that the Eagles drafted, and dont say LJ Smith cause he hasnt been that special.

[henchmanUK]

A complete failure to produce quality offensive players by the Eagles coaching staff

Brian Westbrook?

talking about WRs but though Westbrook is a different type of weapon without any good WRs the Defenses will tee off on him. Westbrook is no Marshall Faulk thats for sure!

And who else besides McNabb and Westbrook have really been playmakers that the Eagles drafted, and dont say LJ Smith cause he hasnt been that special.

First you say offensive players, then you say WRs, then you say playmakers. Make your mind up sport!

[stalker]

A complete failure to produce quality offensive players by the Eagles coaching staff

Westbrook, McNabb, Andrews, LJ Smith, Jiggles, Reggie Brown

[phillywin2k5]

A complete failure to produce quality offensive players by the Eagles coaching staff

Brian Westbrook?

talking about WRs but though Westbrook is a different type of weapon without any good WRs the Defenses will tee off on him. Westbrook is no Marshall Faulk thats for sure!

And who else besides McNabb and Westbrook have really been playmakers that the Eagles drafted, and dont say LJ Smith cause he hasnt been that special.

First you say offensive players, then you say WRs, then you say playmakers. Make your mind up sport!

So in 7 seasons we have McNabb and Westbrook, thats nothing to brag about.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Fine, I'll stick my neck out.

Playmakers drafted by Reid not named McNabb/Westbrook

1. Lito is a playmaker.  He's a risk-taker, and he had a bad year this year, but he's athletic and has a tendency for the big play.

2. Pinkston is a playmaker.  Laugh all you want.  How many big passing plays did the Eagles have this year, even while TO was still playing?  Pinkston was usually good for at least one 25+ gain a game, whether from a penalty or an actual completion.  That's huge.  Is he a #1 receiver?  Hell no.  But I underestimated his loss.

3. Reggie Brown is a playmaker.  How many receivers have made even the contribution he has in this offense as a rookie?  The answer is zero.  This offense is impossible to grasp for a first year receiver, but Reggie has still shown strength, speed, and hands.  How good he becomes remains to be seen, but I believe that if he were the 2nd/3rd receiver with a healthy McNabb, he'd have finished the year with over 800 yards and 4-5 TD's.

Have to get some work done, but those are the first 3 that came to mind.

[henchmanUK]

A complete failure to produce quality offensive players by the Eagles coaching staff

Brian Westbrook?

talking about WRs but though Westbrook is a different type of weapon without any good WRs the Defenses will tee off on him. Westbrook is no Marshall Faulk thats for sure!

And who else besides McNabb and Westbrook have really been playmakers that the Eagles drafted, and dont say LJ Smith cause he hasnt been that special.

First you say offensive players, then you say WRs, then you say playmakers. Make your mind up sport!

So in 7 seasons we have McNabb and Westbrook, thats nothing to brag about.

OK, so you think LJ Smith sucks. Your opinion, fine. I guess defense and the o-line don't count though?

[fansince61]

Fine, I'll stick my neck out.

Playmakers drafted by Reid not named McNabb/Westbrook

1. Lito is a playmaker.  He's a risk-taker, and he had a bad year this year, but he's athletic and has a tendency for the big play.

2. Pinkston is a playmaker.  Laugh all you want.  How many big passing plays did the Eagles have this year, even while TO was still playing?  Pinkston was usually good for at least one 25+ gain a game, whether from a penalty or an actual completion.  That's huge.  Is he a #1 receiver?  Hell no.  But I underestimated his loss.

3. Reggie Brown is a playmaker.  How many receivers have made even the contribution he has in this offense as a rookie?  The answer is zero.  This offense is impossible to grasp for a first year receiver, but Reggie has still shown strength, speed, and hands.  How good he becomes remains to be seen, but I believe that if he were the 2nd/3rd receiver with a healthy McNabb, he'd have finished the year with over 800 yards and 4-5 TD's.

Have to get some work done, but those are the first 3 that came to mind.

I would like to add Happy Scrappy and M. Lewis to that list..I know M. Lewis has been disppointing this year

[Wingspan]

you can also add buckhalter to that list when he was healthy, was a playmaker. there was no way of knowing his knees would turn to old rubber bands.

[henchmanUK]

Part one answered. Thank you. Now for part two.

what circumstances do you think have prevented you from becoming the modern-day equivalent of Vince Lombardi?

Just incase you missed it, IGY.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I would like to add Happy Scrappy and M. Lewis to that list..I know M. Lewis has been disppointing this year

I think Sheldon is a better overall CB than Lito, but he's asking about "playmakers".  I don't think Sheldon has the nose for the big play as much as Lito (that can be a good thing).  As for Lewis, it's probably just because I'm spoiled by Dawkins, but I don't see him as much of a "playmaker".  He hits fairly hard, but pound-for-pound is nothing compared to Darth.