I posted this as part of a discussion on the EMB..

Started by bobbyinlondon, October 20, 2005, 10:14:03 AM

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Larry

Yeah, that information will be provided solely by Heckert.
More Mahe please.

ice grillin you

provided in that he will accumulate the tools to grade the players...but reid will definitely at that point make his own evaluations that may differ greatly from heckerts...just as much of heckerts info will be provided by the scouts

what this really comes down to is how much input does hecket have in the actual selection of the players
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MURP

Reid was in attendance for the USC/Notre Dame game supporting Charlie Weiss.  Id bet that Big Red has an idea of some college players.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Like I said before, if Heckert gets paid like a GM, has all-but final say, gets the league recognition as the true personnel chief of the Eagles, but gets very little of the blame if something goes wrong... a team would be hard-pressed to come up with a deal that would make him give it all up.

Wingspan

i bet if an owner asked him what a linebacker was...that would disqualify heckert right then and there.
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pinoyboy2pt0

Who's willing to put down the players drafted (are we doing this?) Modrak vs Heckert.
Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No pro bowl WR's.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Retarded special teams.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  "I've got to do a better job."  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Running game shines for 3 plays. Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No adjustments anywhere.  Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  (repeat)

MURP

Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on October 20, 2005, 02:42:32 PM
Who's willing to put down the players drafted (are we doing this?) Modrak vs Heckert.


here is the link if you want em:   Draft history link

Beermonkey

Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on October 20, 2005, 02:42:32 PM
Who's willing to put down the players drafted (are we doing this?) Modrak vs Heckert.


MODRAK ERA (1999 to 2001)

1999
Donovan McNabb QB Syracuse
Barry Gardner LB Northwestern
Doug Brzezinski G Boston College
John Welbourn G California
Damon Moore DB Ohio State
Na Brown WR North Carolina
Cecil Martin RB Wisconsin
Troy Smith WR East Carolina
Jed Weaver TE Oregon
Pernell Davis DE Alabama-Birmingham

2000
Corey Simon DT Florida State
Todd Pinkston WR Southern Mississippi
Bobby Williams T Arkansas
Gari Scott WR Michigan State
Thomas Hamner RB Minnesota
John Frank DE Utah
John Romero C California

2001
Freddie Mitchell WR UCLA
Quinton Caver LB Arkansas
Derrick Burgess DE Mississippi
Correll Buckhalter RB Nebraska
Tony Stewart TE Penn State
A.J. Feeley QB Oregon

HECKERT ERA (2002 - ?)

2002
Lito Sheppard DB Florida
Michael Lewis DB Colorado
Sheldon Brown DB South Carolina
Brian Westbrook RB Villanova
Scott Peters C Arizona State
Freddie Milons WR Alabama
Tyreo Harrison LB Notre Dame
Raheem Brock DE Temple

2003
Jerome McDougle DE Miami (FL)
L.J. Smith TE Rutgers
Billy McMullen WR Virginia
Jamaal Green DE Miami (FL)
Jeremy Bridges G Southern Mississippi
Norman Lejeune DB Louisiana State

2004
Shawn Andrews T Arkansas
Matt Ware DB UCLA
J.R. Reed DB South Florida
Trey Darilek G Texas-El Paso
Thomas Tapeh RB Minnesota
Andy Hall QB Delaware
Dexter Wynn DB Colorado State
Adrien Clarke G Ohio State
Bruce Perry RB Maryland
Dominic Furio C Nevada-Las Vegas

2005
Mike Patterson DT USC
Reggie Brown WR Georgia
Matt McCoy LB San Diego State
Ryan Moats RB Louisiana Tech
Sean Considine DB Iowa
Todd Herremans T Saginaw Valley State
Trent Cole LB Cincinnati
Scott Young G Brigham Young
Calvin Armstrong T Washington State
Keyonta Marshall DT Grand Valley State
David Bergeron LB Stanford





ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Tomahawk

Quote from: Beermonkey on October 20, 2005, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on October 20, 2005, 02:42:32 PM
Who's willing to put down the players drafted (are we doing this?) Modrak vs Heckert.


MODRAK ERA (1999 to 2001)

1999
Donovan McNabb QB Syracuse


Modrak wanted Akili Smith. Fortunately, Reid got his way.

Cerevant

What's the criteria?  I started tallying this up, but there is nothing really to compare...
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Beermonkey

Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2005, 03:05:03 PM
heckert didnt become vp of pp until 2003

He was still in charge of player personnel regardless of the title change.

ice grillin you

its ironic that the one draft that was basically all reid was by far their best

maybe andy is the pp genius...i say move him upstairs and let him gm full time and hire a better coach
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Cerevant

Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2005, 03:19:34 PM
its ironic that the one draft that was basically all reid was by far their best

maybe andy is the pp genius...i say move him upstairs and let him gm full time and hire a better coach
I agree  :sly
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Wingspan

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MODRAK ERA (1999 to 2001)

1999
Donovan McNabb QB Syracuse :yay :yay :yay
Barry Gardner LB Northwestern  :boo
Doug Brzezinski G Boston College  :yay
John Welbourn G California  :yay
Damon Moore DB Ohio State  :yay
Na Brown WR North Carolina  :boo :boo :boo
Cecil Martin RB Wisconsin  :yay
Troy Smith WR East Carolina  :boo :boo :boo
Jed Weaver TE Oregon  :yay
Pernell Davis DE Alabama-Birmingham  :boo :boo :boo

2000
Corey Simon DT Florida State  :yay
Todd Pinkston WR Southern Mississippi :yay
Bobby Williams T Arkansas  :yay
Gari Scott WR Michigan State  :boo :boo :boo
Thomas Hamner RB Minnesota  :boo :boo :boo
John Frank DE Utah  :boo :boo :boo
John Romero C California  :boo :boo :boo

2001
Freddie Mitchell WR UCLA  :boo
Quinton Caver LB Arkansas  :boo :boo
Derrick Burgess DE Mississippi  :yay :yay
Correll Buckhalter RB Nebraska  :yay
Tony Stewart TE Penn State  :-\
A.J. Feeley QB Oregon  :yay

HECKERT ERA (2002 - ?)

2002
Lito Sheppard DB Florida  :yay :yay
Michael Lewis DB Colorado  :yay :yay :yay
Sheldon Brown DB South Carolina  :yay :yay :yay
Brian Westbrook RB Villanova  :yay :yay :yay
Scott Peters C Arizona State  :boo
Freddie Milons WR Alabama  :boo :boo :boo
Tyreo Harrison LB Notre Dame  :boo :boo :boo
Raheem Brock DE Temple  :yay :yay :yay

2003
Jerome McDougle DE Miami (FL)  :boo
L.J. Smith TE Rutgers  :yay :yay
Billy McMullen WR Virginia  :boo :boo :boo
Jamaal Green DE Miami (FL)  :boo :boo
Jeremy Bridges G Southern Mississippi  :boo
Norman Lejeune DB Louisiana State  :boo

2004
Shawn Andrews T Arkansas  :yay :yay
Matt Ware DB UCLA  :boo
J.R. Reed DB South Florida  :yay
Trey Darilek G Texas-El Paso :boo
Thomas Tapeh RB Minnesota  :-\
Andy Hall QB Delaware  :boo :boo :boo
Dexter Wynn DB Colorado State  :-\
Adrien Clarke G Ohio State  :boo
Bruce Perry RB Maryland  :boo
Dominic Furio C Nevada-Las Vegas :boo

2005
Mike Patterson DT USC  :yay
Reggie Brown WR Georgia  :yay
Matt McCoy LB San Diego State  :boo
Ryan Moats RB Louisiana Tech  :-\
Sean Considine DB Iowa  :boo
Todd Herremans T Saginaw Valley State :boo
Trent Cole LB Cincinnati  :yay
Scott Young G Brigham Young  :boo
Calvin Armstrong T Washington State  :boo
Keyonta Marshall DT Grand Valley State  :boo
David Bergeron LB Stanford  :boo

:yay :boo
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