Phillies Offseason Talk

[MURP]

please eat Lieberthals contract and get rid of him. thanks. 

[Wingspan]

please someone just eat leiberthal

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Let's throw him into the sun.

[ice grillin you]

rather than his 200 pancakes with a side of cow perhaps hollis' next pre game meal could just be lieby

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Why not?  It has the added value of being 100% approved Kosher, in case Hollis ever wants to convert.

[SunMo]

Posted on Sun, Oct. 09, 2005

Inqlings | Phillie facing civil suit in fight

By Michael Klein

Inquirer Columnist

A civil lawsuit is in the works against Phillies outfielder Jason Michaels by the Philly cop he's accused of beating up three months ago after a night on the town.

A lawyer for Officer Timothy Taylor, 25, has filed a writ in Common Pleas Court, an indication that an assault-and-battery suit is forthcoming against Michaels, 29.

Michaels, whose off-season home is in Tampa, Fla., also faces a Dec. 15 hearing on criminal charges related to the incident.

About 3 a.m. on July 3, police said, Michaels and other people near the nightclub 32º were asked to disperse. Michaels, a burly 6-footer, refused. Police said he went after Taylor, wrestling him to the ground and ripping his shirt. Michaels, subdued by other officers, spent nine hours in custody. He was charged with aggravated assault on a police officer, simple assault, and reckless endangerment.

Taylor, a four-year vet assigned to the Fifth District in Northwest Philly, suffered unspecified injuries and has not worked since the incident, a police spokesman said. He is due back soon and is expected to be on restricted duty, police said.

Michaels reported to the ballpark for that day's game but did not play. In his next game, July 4, he went 2-for-4 against the Pirates. For the rest of the season, Michaels endured cold stares from police working at Citizens Bank Park.

Michaels, whose bio lists his interests as working out, bottle-cap baseball, and spear fishing, made $825,000 last season, his fifth as a big-leaguer.

Taylor's lawyer, James E. Colleran, did not return a call seeking elaboration or a description of the lawsuit. Michaels' lawyer, Barnaby Wittels, declined comment.

It's not unusual for a cop to file a civil suit over an on-the-job incident. Philly officer Thomas K. O'Neill sued radio station WIOQ-FM (102.1) in 2003 concerning a prank in which O'Neill's voice was heard on the air as he questioned morning-show jokester Diego Ramos, who'd skipped out on his bill at an IHOP. The District Attorney's Office decided not to file criminal charges, but O'Neill was awarded an undisclosed out-of-court settlement from station owner Clear Channel Communications.

[MDS]

Glaus is okay, but I figure this trade is to free up Ryan Howard to play left?

yup

SS Rollins
2B Utley
RF Abreu
3B Glaus
LF Howard
1B Thome
CF Michaels/Victorino
C Lieberthal

eww that sucks, glaus hits like .260

abreu-rollins-utley-thome-glaus-howard-victorino-loser

[Rome]

In my grandfather's day, if someone laid a hand on a Philly cop, they'd either end up in a hospital or cemetary.

Instead of handling it like that, this guy takes Michaels to court for money.

How sweet.

[hunt]

glaus was 5th in the NL in striking out...don't the sils already have enough of those guys?

[MDS]

glaus was 5th in the NL in striking out...don't the sils already have enough of those guys?

we could just up the payroll to $205 million

[hunt]

glaus was 5th in the NL in striking out...don't the sils already have enough of those guys?

we could just up the payroll to $205 million

well, the sils are already the 2nd highest payroll in the NL...

[MDS]

and we had the 2nd most strikeouts in baseball.....but the top 10 teams for strikeouts in baseball were the 8 playoff teams, the phillies and some other team i forget. but striking out doesnt matter.

[WEST is GOD]

Getting Glaus and dumping Burrell? Any Phillies fan should adore that rumor. No one needs Burrell's bitching, whining and choking anymore.

Phillies should go after Manny in a trade with Abreu. Get a real hitter in this town.

[MDS]

Glaus hasn't been healthy 2 of the past 3 years. That would give significant health concers at third and first. But when healthy, Glaus is going to hit .255 with 30 homers and 100 rbis. He's been piss poor with RISP and with runners on. Burrell, on the other hand, had 120 rbis for a reason.

I am not for making a move just for the sake of making a move. I don't know why everyone is clammering for a change in the lineup, when scoring runs was not this teams problem. Yes, the lack of clutch hits was. But who are you going to find that can make up for Burrell's or Abreu's production and at the same time hit in the clutch. Yea, no one. Utley and Howard are our money guys in the clutch. Abreu looks for walks. Burrell just invents ways to get out. But Burrell did have a fantastic season, and somehow, that has been forgetten because he had a bad two games against the Mets.

This team didn't make the playoffs because of the everyday lineup. Well, at least the middle of the order. Jimmy Rollins inconsistency, David Bell and Mike Liberthal didn't help, but overall the lineup was fine. It was getting to Billy Wagner, the bench and the constant problems with starting pitching (enigma known as Padilla, Lieber being awful for two months, Brito and Floyd having to start games). Many of those things could have been fixed with proper managing and smart general managing. Well, we didnt have either.

But that can change with getting someone with half a brain in here. If Manuel stays or goes, whatever. There are too many guaranteed unmoveable contracts on this team, so the core of whiny soft douches will remain. Manuel worked well with them. So keep him. Manuel's game moves did improve as the year went on, maybe he learned. Bringing someone else in here, and we could start all over again with the awful in game decisions.

As I said, this team isnt too far away. A change at third or catcher (can live with one of them, not both), another quality start pitcher, and then overhauls to the bullpen and bench. Thats it. With that, this team can win. They dont need to trade Abreu or Burrell just for the sake of changing things up. While it could spark something, I dont think its a must.

[JTrotter Fan]

Utley is God...that's all you need to say about this offseason.