Eagles release Simon

[PhillyGirl]

Find me a post where I make it a point to say, "I POSTED THIS FIRST!"

posted the first one already. LOL...

sheesh, you and mike both. 

Re: You-Know-Who Stands To Lose $9600 Per Day; Agent Says TC Is 50/50 Shot
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2005, 07:11:07 AM » 

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I posted the 50/50 article already.

About 300 more showed up in a simple search, but I don't have the time today.

Difference is? I'm just letting the person who posted itknow that there is already a page or more full of conversation about the topic, so they can read up on it. I'm not saying it to sound like I win a prize for being first.     but I figured you'd be the one to actually go back and look.

[MURP]

Im glad they Eagles have some loot to spend on other players now, but it doesnt change the fact that they didnt get jack for their franchise player and had to let him go.   yeah, the Eagles will go on and be great without him and will win the SB.  But I see nothing wrong with noting that this whole thing was a disaster.  Im sure the Eagles are pissed about it because if they were not trying hard as hell to get something for him they would have never held on to him for so long.   

[PhillyGirl]

i would have made him play for the 5 mil this year...and then let him go next year

when you are as close as they are to a superbowl you dont go cutting very good players two weeks before the season

the tackle position is deep but its deep with average players...unless patterson as a rookie is great...which could happen...hollis is very good but only for a limited number of plays a game...rayburn and walker while nice players are not nearly as good as simon

hollis cannot stay healthy under normal circumstances this moves adds that many more plays to his body...and when he goes down all of sudden their tackles look very suspect

Guess its finally time for you to go back and root for another team.

[PhillyGirl]

Well put. The same people who will whine and complain about this will be the same people that whined and complained and bashed the FO when Trotter, Hugh, Vincent, Taylor, Duce, etc...were all let go.

IGY, so....what were your thoughts on the FO when the above moves were made?

[rjs246]

[ice grillin you]

IGY, so....what were your thoughts on the FO when the above moves were made?

duce i was iffy on...the others all wanted ridiculous money and long years...were over the hill...or the team had a plan to cover their loss..

with simon he is easily affordable in his prime and their plan b scares me a little...im not super pissed about this but i dont see any reason they should not have kept him for this year

[Diomedes]

But I see nothing wrong with noting that this whole thing was a disaster. Im sure the Eagles are pissed about it because if they were not trying hard as hell to get something for him they would have never held on to him for so long.

Nothing wrong with it at all and you're right, it's a personnel disaster.  The guy could've, would've, should've...if he weren't such an ass.  But he is.  So there you go.  I agree they must have been trying to find some way to get something for him, but clearly he's not willing to play along.  If no other team would take him in a trade, the only reason I can imagine is Corey.  Fat, out of football since the SB, demanding Mega Money.  Who wants that?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

from this thread a few days ago:

You don't even have to cut him. Remove the franchise tag a la Jeremiah Trotter before the 2002 season, and he's an unrestricted free agent. Honestly, if I'm the Eagles, I don't let that fat-ass steal a paycheck or a roster spot from more deserving and hard-working players.

I'm with Team Patterson. Remove the tag right before the season starts, when all the teams are full up with players and all their monies are spent. Let him find his way onto a team then. Fat and overrated DT looking for work in a job market with few vacancies, and no wealthy suitors.
I would enjoy seeing that.

Like I've said before, people should take heed when you and I actually agree on something.

[Tomahawk]

i would have made him play for the 5 mil this year

Could the Eagles have made him do anything?  The guy refused to sign the franchise tender and I'm guessing would have held out into the season. The only thing they could have done was offer him more money than he's worth.

Don't discount Thomas and Rayburn. They started a couple of games a couple of years ago because Simon and Walker were sucking it up so much. Don't get me wrong, Simon is undoubtedly better, but not by much because of his attitude and fitness problems.

[PhillyGirl]

i would have made him play for the 5 mil this year

Could the Eagles have made him do anything?  The guy refused to sign the franchise tender and I'm guessing would have held out into the season. The only thing they could have done was offer him more money than he's worth.

Ding ding ding...winner.

[MURP]

sure, he either signs and plays or he doesnt get paid  anything.  See:  Walter Jones.

[rjs246]

Whatever.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Two things:

1.  Simon would certainly have signed the franchise tender before week 1.  His effectiveness would have been minimal, as would his repetitions.  Basically, the combination of the play of the other DT's and the reducing likelihood that he would end up actually being worth $5 million this season made this move a no-brainer.  I still have no doubt he would have signed on time.

2.  There is an EXCELLENT chance he will see more than $5.1m this year in signing bonus alone, so everyone pointing and laughing at Mr. Simon and his agent should probably just stuff it.  However, I predict whichever team does make the investment into Corey will probably be disappointed long-term and end up cutting him as soon as it's least cap-killing to do so.

As you all know, I am 100% in favor of this move for many reasons, but don't delude yourself into believing otherwise from the above statements.

[ice grillin you]

Could the Eagles have made him do anything?  The guy refused to sign the franchise tender and I'm guessing would have held out into the season. The only thing they could have done was offer him more money than he's worth.


he absolutely would have come in and played...thats not even an issue...and the fact that you bring up the possibility that he wouldnt have shows that you like me are not very comfortable with this move

[MURP]

well, if Simon is no longer an Eagle then I'll hope he gets a massive deal and plays well so the Birds get a high comp pick for him.  Unless there are any rules about comp picks and being released this late in the year.