Hurricane Katrina Devastates The Gulf Coast.

[JTrotter Fan]

No you can't go help.  They don't want you there.  They don't want any more people there screwing things up unless you are law enforcement or fire department or military.  That's really it.  They want you to give money. 

The only thing you can do is volunteer if you live in one of the areas where they have moved people, like Texas or Oklahoma. 

[JTrotter Fan]

video of Kanye West's remarks (takes a moment to load)

man, talk about Mike Myers being in an uncomfortable situation.   

Kanye West is an idiot.  It's typical that he groups himself into those poor people in New Orleans.  Dumb rapper shootin his mouth off about shtein he has no clue about.  Look at Chris Tucker, did you see him runnin his mouth?  No!

[TexasEagle]

I watch this and I just can't believe this is our own country. I can't believe that the government could let our own farging citizens sit there for FIVE days before sending food and rescue. I tossed and turned AGAIN last night over this. I just feel helpless, because other than dontating money, what else can we do?

What a crock of shtein, there is a lot you can do you can volunteer to go help.

That's completely uncalled for. They don't even want people in the gulf states. They want money! People that bring material items for the Red Cross in places are being turned away because they can't do anything with the stuff. Why don't you get a clue before you go spouting your nonsense.

I'm in Texas and I've been trying to volunteer for two days and I can't even get through on the number they told us to call to find out what I need to do, but I'm going to keep trying. In the mean time I'm gathering shirts, towels and blankets to send to a friend in Baton Rouge that's housing people and can distribute the rest to people that are out there begging.

It's real nice of you to lambast, PG, though. When do you leave for the gulf again?

[JTrotter Fan]

Amen Brotha!! 

Texas Eagle...where do you live at?  Are you in San Antonio?  Let me see if i can get a contact person for you through my PD and maybe you'll be able to get through quicker. 

[TexasEagle]

Yeah, I'm in San Antonio. The news station gave a local 211 number that keeps giving a message that it can't connect and they have a number for cells that I also tried (227-4357) and that also won't connect. I tried to call the TV station a bit ago but there's no one there on the weekends.

But if you can help me out with a number I'd greatly appreciate it. I don't even know who else to call. I've even tried calling the Red Cross to see if they could provide a local number or organization to call and their line is always busy.

[Sgt PSN]

Deion calls on pro athletes for support along with Ed Reed, Alan Ricard and Warrick Dunn.



We've all got our own opinions on Prime Time but regardless of what you think of him, he, Reed, Ricard and Dunn are doing a good thing here. 

[Diomedes]

Is it just me, or does this guy strike anyone else as an idiot?

Not me.  I appreciate the guy more than any of these other officials.  "Progress is on the march," is about all they can muster.  Scumbags.  I wish I the armed looters would focus their efforts on shooting politicians.  Really, I do.  Let them suffer for a change.

[JTrotter Fan]

PG, i was watching Geraldo last night also.  It was really sad and it made me get almost as mad as he sounded.  I left it on FOX News the rest of the night.

TE, i'm workin on a number for ya man.  I'm gettin the run around from some of our brass.

[Diomedes]

I left it on FOX News the rest of the night.

That's why they pay him the big bucks.  I said somehting about it earlier, but so what:  Anyone know anything about advertising rates for news stations during times like this?  I'd like to know how much the rates have gone up, who the big advertisers are, which ads have been pulled because a higher rate could be gotten out of someone else, etc.?  Or is that not how it works?  Maybe no matter what, these ads were sold weeks or months ago and the advertisers just get lucky to have like 20,000% more "impressions" than they could normally have expected? 

Who is getting rich off this and how?  Anyone else notice that Halliburton got a big contract right off the bat to help clean up military bases affected? 

[JTrotter Fan]

It's definitely something i thought about after you mentioned it before.  Do people just sit there in shock after watching that stuff or do they pay attention to their tv?  Me personally, whenever one news channel gives me a commercial, i flip to CNN or MSNBC.  It's like you need to constantly see what is going on.

[Wingspan]

What I meant was that after the hurricane no one anticipated this problem, you are right it was predicted before.  After the hurricane hit they initially thought they were going to be ok.

sorry, dont buy that. it was a mere couple of hours between the storm passing. so there was help supposedly on the way to make it there. the storm cleared the area at about what, 8 or 9 am?  and i dont know for certian, but the levee's broke about 5 or 6 hours later?

the "help" may have turned back, but how does it take 4 days to make up for 5 hours of "whew, they made it"?

the governments on all levels screwed the pooch on this one. inept on all levels, local, state, and federal have shown us just how incapable they are of doing anything of real importance. they might as well go back to their meetings and bitch about union contracts, and tax breaks...

honestly...NOTHING has been accomplished other than some good PR on the security and response in this country. 9/11 or another natural disaster could happen again monday morning, and it would be nothing more than the same as we have seen today. a bunch of talking heads completely contradicting each other, the left hand not knowing what the right is doing. while the people in the line of fire are frigging dying on their rooftops waiting for help while the suits go on TV and kiss a homeless girl making sure to angle the camera's so that nothing "too bad" is shown on television. 

[TexasEagle]

My sister works in TV and I believe the commercial slots are booked and paid for well in advance. I'm sure that ads can (and do) get pulled if companies know the right folks to pull the right strings, but I don't think it's an easy thing to do. I think it takes a lot of pressure to change a commercial package.

Anyway, I'm sure money's being made somewhere on this, it'd be hard to imagine there isn't.



There's still poeple stuck in flood water down there. That's unbelievable. I know there's folks there helping finally but 6 days later and people are still in flooded houses. It's unreal that this is happening in America.

There was a piece on earlier, it was on CNN or MSNBC, where the news guy was saying, 'we can get supplies and food, why can't these people?' and went to find out why they could get food and the people there could not... and you know what? He didn't get any answers. He was driving around on the roads and talking to National Guard people, and didn't get a single concrete answer as to why they couldn't bring in food & water.

TE, i'm workin on a number for ya man. I'm gettin the run around from some of our brass.

I appreciate the effort.

[Drunkmasterflex]

I watch this and I just can't believe this is our own country. I can't believe that the government could let our own farging citizens sit there for FIVE days before sending food and rescue. I tossed and turned AGAIN last night over this. I just feel helpless, because other than dontating money, what else can we do?

What a crock of shtein, there is a lot you can do you can volunteer to go help.

That's completely uncalled for. They don't even want people in the gulf states. They want money! People that bring material items for the Red Cross in places are being turned away because they can't do anything with the stuff. Why don't you get a clue before you go spouting your nonsense.

I'm in Texas and I've been trying to volunteer for two days and I can't even get through on the number they told us to call to find out what I need to do, but I'm going to keep trying. In the mean time I'm gathering shirts, towels and blankets to send to a friend in Baton Rouge that's housing people and can distribute the rest to people that are out there begging.

It's real nice of you to lambast, PG, though. When do you leave for the gulf again?

I am not lambasting anybody, you can volunteer to go help in your area, getting supplies together to send down or money, whatever.  Now, your the one lambasting me telling me to get a clue.  I have donated money and as far as volunteering I am doing that right now I am currently in the process of going into the U.S. Army(provided my wavers go through), so don't lecture me.  It just bothers me and (this is not directed at anybody particular) that people are bitching and moaning right now, let me ask you what good that does in a situation like this?

As far as them not letting people in that is news to me, up here there are daily reports of local volunteer groups going down and helping out.

[Drunkmasterflex]

What I meant was that after the hurricane no one anticipated this problem, you are right it was predicted before.  After the hurricane hit they initially thought they were going to be ok.

sorry, dont buy that. it was a mere couple of hours between the storm passing. so there was help supposedly on the way to make it there. the storm cleared the area at about what, 8 or 9 am?  and i dont know for certian, but the levee's broke about 5 or 6 hours later?

the "help" may have turned back, but how does it take 4 days to make up for 5 hours of "whew, they made it"?

the governments on all levels screwed the pooch on this one. inept on all levels, local, state, and federal have shown us just how incapable they are of doing anything of real importance. they might as well go back to their meetings and bitch about union contracts, and tax breaks...

honestly...NOTHING has been accomplished other than some good PR on the security and response in this country. 9/11 or another natural disaster could happen again monday morning, and it would be nothing more than the same as we have seen today. a bunch of talking heads completely contradicting each other, the left hand not knowing what the right is doing. while the people in the line of fire are frigging dying on their rooftops waiting for help while the suits go on TV and kiss a homeless girl making sure to angle the camera's so that nothing "too bad" is shown on television. 

All that I am saying is it is easy for people to criticize now after the fact, this is an extremely difficult situation.  Rather than playing the blame game (which certainly can and should be played at a later date) why not just see what we can do to rectify the situation now.

[JTrotter Fan]

I watch this and I just can't believe this is our own country. I can't believe that the government could let our own farging citizens sit there for FIVE days before sending food and rescue. I tossed and turned AGAIN last night over this. I just feel helpless, because other than dontating money, what else can we do?

What a crock of shtein, there is a lot you can do you can volunteer to go help.

That's completely uncalled for. They don't even want people in the gulf states. They want money! People that bring material items for the Red Cross in places are being turned away because they can't do anything with the stuff. Why don't you get a clue before you go spouting your nonsense.

I'm in Texas and I've been trying to volunteer for two days and I can't even get through on the number they told us to call to find out what I need to do, but I'm going to keep trying. In the mean time I'm gathering shirts, towels and blankets to send to a friend in Baton Rouge that's housing people and can distribute the rest to people that are out there begging.

It's real nice of you to lambast, PG, though. When do you leave for the gulf again?

I am not lambasting anybody, you can volunteer to go help in your area, getting supplies together to send down or money, whatever.  Now, your the one lambasting me telling me to get a clue.  I have donated money and as far as volunteering I am doing that right now I am currently in the process of going into the U.S. Army(provided my wavers go through), so don't lecture me.  It just bothers me and (this is not directed at anybody particular) that people are bitching and moaning right now, let me ask you what good that does in a situation like this?

As far as them not letting people in that is news to me, up here there are daily reports of local volunteer groups going down and helping out.

Yeah, firefighter groups and such.  John Q. Public doesn't belong down there unless he's trained in Police, Fire, EMS or the like. 

And that is just my opinion.  The only reason i say that is because basically people down there now are going to be rescuing citizens.  Unless they have some type of training in that, then they would just be getting in the way mostly.