Hurricane Katrina Devastates The Gulf Coast.

[rjs246]

What do you know! Even famous people are idiots. Who woulda thunk it.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Inconceivable.

[Rome]

I suppose he's finally found his thrill...

[MadMarchHare]

One of the reasons they have stopped is because it's not safe, not just cause of looting. A day after the storm is when this started going bad, when the levee broke and started flooding the rest of the city. NO ONE could have forseen this destruction and mobilized equipment to remove the 50 to 60 thousand people left in the city, in the few days before this storm hit. There are a lot of people in that city that had the means and opportunity to leave the city, but no they thought they could ride out the storm, i really have a hard time feeling sorry for them, it's the people who did not have the means to leave that I feel for. THey are bussing the people to houston and San Antonio now, how the heck can you get 50-60 thousand people out of there faster?

Acutally, I saw a special on NOVA 2 years ago that described this exact situation.  In fact, the mayor of NO said his biggest fear was that after the hurricane passed, people'd come back too soon and get nailed in the aftermath flooding.  People knew this shtein could happen, and didn't build better levies, backup systems or protocols for rapid evacuation.

[TexasEagle]

CNN just read a "desparate SOS" from the Mayor of New Orleans that they're out of resources and don't have enough buses to evactuate people...

Tell me again how they're doing enough to help. 

[rjs246]

People knew this shtein could happen, and didn't build better levies, backup systems or protocols for rapid evacuation.

And because of that their asses are homeless and smell like diseased feet (probably). Let's just force the whole area to secede, nape it, stage a bloody coup, invade their newfound sovereign land, claim it as our own and start over again. It'll be glorious.

[phillymic2000]

CNN just read a "desparate SOS" from the Mayor of New Orleans that they're out of resources and don't have enough buses to evactuate people...

Tell me again how they're doing enough to help. 

There is no way to get all these people out of there in an hour!!! This is not star trek where you can just beam the people up.

NEW ORLEANS — The evacuation of the New Orleans Superdome was disrupted Thursday after a gun shot reportedly was fired at a military helicopter as thousands of National Guard troops poured into the Crescent City to boost security in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina

[Diomedes]

Where are these  thousands of National Guard?  I haven't seen them yet.  None of the news channels have shown them rolling into town.  Haven't read anything about command centers being established, or patrols being started.

28,000 guardsmen may be dedicated to the disaster, but not many of those are actually there doing anything.  And that's not enough troops anyway.  Double that number, and put fully half of them on "shoot anyone with a gun" duty.  If you're walking around with a gun, you lose. 

[TexasEagle]

The point is THEY'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO HELP right now! Why you have such a hard time grasping such a simple thing is beyond me. They don't need to get them out of there in an hour. They DO need to get them food, water and shelter. They don't have enough resources to do what they need to do to save lives. They don't have enough because they've screwed this entire process from the beginning. There's no organization, no sense of law & order, no real sense of leadership or control, and tons of lip service from the officials at the top while people continue to die in the streets because they can't get basic services to keep them alive because there's no order in New Orleans.

I swear I'm talking to a wall...

[TexasEagle]

Where are these thousands of National Guard? I haven't seen them yet. None of the news channels have shown them rolling into town. Haven't read anything about command centers being established, or patrols being started.

You haven't seen the Guards because they're not there yet. They're saying they won't start getting more of them in until tomorrow. There's not enough people. There's only 4000 of the Guard people there now and who knows WHERE they are. They've got people coming, but they're not there now (three days later) and the dead continue to pile up.

[Diomedes]

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- New Orleans' Charity Hospital halted efforts to evacuate its patients after it came under sniper fire, according to Dr. Tyler Curiel, who witnessed the incidents.
The attack came as New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin issued "a desperate SOS" for the thousands of people stranded in an around the city's convention center with no food or water and fading hope.
Curiel and his National Guard escorts, were returning to the hospital after dropping off patients at nearby Tulane Medical Center, when someone started shooting at their convoy of Humvees.
"We were coming in from a parking deck at Tulane Medical Center, and a guy in a white shirt started firing at us," Curiel said. "The National Guard (troops), wearing flak jackets, tried to get a bead on this guy. "
The incident happened around 11:30 a.m. (12:30 p.m. ET). About an hour later, another gunman opened fire at the back of Charity Hospital.
"We got back to Charity Hospital with with food from Tulane and we said, 'OK the snipers are behind us, let's move on,'" Curiel said. "We started loading patients (for transport) and 20 minutes later, shots rang out."
The National Guard soldiers told staff to get away from the windows, and evacuations were halted.
Charity Hospital has no electricity, no water and the only food available is couple of cans of vegetables and graham crackers.
Evacuations by boat were halted after armed looters threatened medics, and overturned one of their boats.
The sniper attacks were the latest incidents of violence that have disrupted efforts to help people in the flooded city.

So, why didn't the Guardsmen return fire?

[phillymic2000]

The point is THEY'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO HELP right now! Why you have such a hard time grasping such a simple thing is beyond me. They don't need to get them out of there in an hour. They DO need to get them food, water and shelter. They don't have enough resources to do what they need to do to save lives. They don't have enough because they've screwed this entire process from the beginning. There's no organization, no sense of law & order, no real sense of leadership or control, and tons of lip service from the officials at the top while people continue to die in the streets because they can't get basic services to keep them alive because there's no order in New Orleans.

I swear I'm talking to a wall...

You are not talking to a wall, I do realize that there is not enough troops, water or food there now. My main point is that they are working on it, you think it's not fast enough, and I think it's a huge operation to get started and they are working on it as fast as they can. What else can I say.

[rjs246]

So, why didn't the Guardsmen return fire?

They were obviously busy staring at each others' cocks.

[phillymic2000]

the PC people will have a field day with the first incident where our troops fire on one of these jagbags.

[rjs246]

the PC people will have a field day with the first incident where our troops fire on one of these jagbags.

Fine, shoot them too. Actually, shoot them first.