Who Is The Back-Up RB If Buck Isn't Healthy?

Started by PhillyPhreak54, August 16, 2005, 01:22:59 PM

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If we're talking about needing a big back to gain third and short yardage, how about look at a big old lineman ala "The Fridge".  Run him behind Runyan and Big Sean - an instant 2 yards.
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If you watch Moats' highlights from LaTech you'll see that he has no trouble at all running betwen the tackles. Even Brad Childress sid that yesterday. He said that Moats will take it inside

absolutely...in fact he did much more between the tackles than outside of them in college...in fact it was funny to hear moats himself say last week that what he really needs to work on more than anything is his pass catching because he did very little of it at la tech...is he a 25 carry guy in the pros...not at all...but hes much closer to that than he is to being eric metcalf...
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2005, 09:11:00 AM

If you watch Moats' highlights from LaTech you'll see that he has no trouble at all running betwen the tackles. Even Brad Childress sid that yesterday. He said that Moats will take it inside.

Just because he's 5'7/5'8 doesn't mean he cannot go inside, bro. He's got the leg drive, leverage and toughness to take it up in there.


I agree with what you are saying, but I don't think I see him being able to "pound" the ball between the tackles play after play to eat up clock. I'm sure he can do it, but I don't think that is A) the best way to use Moats or B) the reason he was drafted. One thing I like from what I've seen from Moats though, is how the defense seems to lose him when he is coming up the middle, hidding behind the tackles and guards....
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If Reid doesnt think they can pound the ball they wont.   He has never been shy to throw a bomb on 3rd and 1. 

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Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 24, 2005, 09:14:54 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2005, 09:11:00 AM

If you watch Moats' highlights from LaTech you'll see that he has no trouble at all running betwen the tackles. Even Brad Childress sid that yesterday. He said that Moats will take it inside.

Just because he's 5'7/5'8 doesn't mean he cannot go inside, bro. He's got the leg drive, leverage and toughness to take it up in there.


I agree with what you are saying, but I don't think I see him being able to "pound" the ball between the tackles play after play to eat up clock. I'm sure he can do it, but I don't think that is A) the best way to use Moats or B) the reason he was drafted. One thing I like from what I've seen from Moats though, is how the defense seems to lose him when he is coming up the middle, hidding behind the tackles and guards....

But when has Reid ever pounded the ball to eat clock? We're talkin' 'bout Andy Reid here, man. The only time I remember him "pounding" the ball was when Donovan got hurt. And even then he didn't really pound it, just ran it a little more than normal. And maybe his first year as the Birds HC too.

He is a pass happy coach. Has been and always will be, man.

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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2005, 09:21:28 AM

But when has Reid ever pounded the ball to eat clock? We're talkin' 'bout Andy Reid here, man. The only time I remember him "pounding" the ball was when Donovan got hurt. And even then he didn't really pound it, just ran it a little more than normal. And maybe his first year as the Birds HC too.

He is a pass happy coach. Has been and always will be, man.

The problem I have is that when he did commit to pounding the ball we were very successful at it. I'm guilty of coveting the kind of offense that we had the year of the 3-headed monster. Granted McNabb was hurt and when Westbrook got hurt for the playoffs the offense went to shtein, but that pounding offense really kicked a lot of ass. Reid HAD to learn something from that... didn't he?
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And he's been successful at throwing it around the field like crazy too. I could understand the whole "let's pound the rock more" theory if the Eagles weren't successful at throwing, but they are very good at the scheme they run.

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As long as Donovan is the quarterback and the best player on offense, why would the Eagles take the ball out of his hands more often?

I love smashmouth football as much as the next guy but the Eagles have been insanely successful with the pass-first mentality.

Why change that?

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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2005, 09:27:11 AM
And he's been successful at throwing it around the field like crazy too. I could understand the whole "let's pound the rock more" theory if the Eagles weren't successful at throwing, but they are very good at the scheme they run.

yeah, but they could use a little more balance.  i think if they run the ball more during the season they would able to run out the clock in games later in the year.  if you remember last year, there were a couple games when they got the ball back with approx. 5 min left in the game and they would go 3 and out because they couldn't run.  and of course, there was the Super Bowl when the run game was pathetic, forcing McNabb to throw 50+ times and wearing him down for the end.
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2005, 09:27:11 AM
And he's been successful at throwing it around the field like crazy too. I could understand the whole "let's pound the rock more" theory if the Eagles weren't successful at throwing, but they are very good at the scheme they run.

No doubt, but (maybe this is my own miserable paranoia seeping through) but I feel like in spite of our ability to throw, we lead the league in three and outs every year. We never have any sort of TOP advantage, even when we're crushing teams, and that makes me nervous. Allows too much time for a patient team to grind its way back or just to stay in the game (like the friggin Browns game from last year. If we control the clock there's no chance that goes into overtime.)
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We need to acquire someone to replace Buckhalter.  The arguments that we don't are kind of silly.

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It occurs to me that now that the Eagles have Runyan and Andrews together, running the football will get considerably easier this season.

Still, Andy's all about the pass.  We know that; we accept that; we move on.

PS: I agree with FF here.  Buck has to be replaced and not by another scatback type.   :-\

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Quote from: FFatPatt on August 24, 2005, 09:32:12 AM
We need to acquire someone to replace Buckhalter.  The arguments that we don't are kind of silly.

Not to play the role of PG but I don't think anyone is saying that we don't need a replacement, I think we're just talking about the type of back that we need and whether or not they'll be utilized in a way that we hope they are. Whatever.

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