Smoking ban in Philadelphia approved

Started by PhillyGirl, May 26, 2005, 02:24:12 PM

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ice grillin you

you should be allowed to smoke in your home or car...unless im visiting or riding
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Sgt PSN

Quote from: FFatPatt on November 16, 2006, 08:33:51 AM
Belmont, CA first city to ban smoking completely

Once they're done with smoking, watch them ban blow jobs. farging commies.

Quote"We have a tremendous opportunity here. We need to pass as stringent a law as we can, I would like to make it illegal," said Councilman Dave Warden. "What if every city did this, image how many lives would be saved?

Shut the farg up!  So what if someone lives to be 75 or 80 instead of croaking at 70.  Adding an extra 5 or 10 years on someone's life accomplishes nothing.  Except:

1.  They can draw social security that much longer.
2.  They can receive gov't assistance that much longer.
3.  They take up space that much longer.
4.  They can get behind the wheel of a car that much longer.
5.  They inconvenience their kids and other family members to take care of them that much longer.
6.  They are a drain on the economy that much longer.

Imagine if we didn't save all these lives.  Imagine how much extra funding schools could receive with the added tax dollars.  Imagine how many car accidents would be avoided.  Imagine how much easier it would be to find a nice little apartment on the upper east side. 

Quit trying to keep people alive.  If someone lives to be 100, fine.  But if more people would kick the bucket around 70 rather than 80 I think everyone will be better off for it.

Diomedes

Yeah, the argument that smokers cost everyone more than non-smokers due to medical costs is a load of shtein.

Everyone gets cancer, you don't have to smoke to get it.
Dying is expensive, and everyone dies.
Being old is expensive, and non-smokers live longer. 

It's a lie that smoking costs society more money than not smoking.  The smoker dies at 72 and it costs a lot of money.  The non smoker dies at 84, and it costs a lot of money.  Not to mention the 12 extra years of decrepit old age, which costs society a lot of money.

also, whining weaklings need to die.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Father Demon

I watched Thank You For Smoking last night.  Hilarious, in a kind of way.  Sad, in other ways.
The drawback to marital longevity is your wife always knows when you're really interested in her and when you're just trying to bury it.

Sgt PSN

Put it in the movie thread then.  Putz. 

Seabiscuit36

Cancer seems to be in the genes. My grandfather and his brother had super genes.  They both were never sick until they hit 77 years old.  Smoked and drank every day, my grandfathers uncle drank a bottle of jim beam every day, and 2 packs of lucky strikes.  My grandfather smoked 1-2 packs of benson and hedges every day.  No cancer, just alzheimers.   

I just dont understand how people there can stand by and allow this?
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

Diomedes

How can people stand by and allow your grandfather and great uncle to smoke, drink and otherwise enjoy life?  I'm with you...why weren't they put in jail or raped or something?
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Cerevant

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Quote from: FFatPatt on November 16, 2006, 08:33:51 AM
Once they're done with smoking, watch them ban blow jobs.  farging commies.

It already was illegal in 10 states until 2003 (and may still be).  10 conservative states, I might add...

QuoteA sodomy law is a law which defines certain sexual acts as sex crimes. The precise sexual acts meant by the term sodomy — and its synonyms buggery, crime against nature, unnatural act, deviant sexual intercourse and a range of similar euphemisms — is rarely spelled out in the legislation, but is typically understood by courts to include any sexual act which does not lead to procreation. While in theory this may include heterosexual oral sex and anal sex, masturbation and bestiality, in practice such laws are primarily enforced against sex between men, particularly anal sex.[/url]
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Sgt PSN

Those laws are probably extremely old.......like 200 years.  It's amazing how many laws that were written over 100 years ago that are still in effect, even though they aren't enforced and should be cancelled. 

Hell, the military still has sodomy laws and I've seen people get charged and convicted of violating them.  Typically, it's during cases involving adultry (and yes, the military still prosecutes people for adultry).  Anywho, additional counts of sodomy will be charged for any sexual act committed in anything other than the missionary position. 

Cerevant

Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 16, 2006, 10:12:01 AM
Those laws are probably extremely old.......like 200 years.  It's amazing how many laws that were written over 100 years ago that are still in effect, even though they aren't enforced and should be cancelled.

Actually, they were being enforced, resulting in the 2003 supreme court decision to overturn those laws.  I misread the article, believing that the laws targeting homosexuals were determined to be unconstitutional, but it appears to have overturned all sodomy laws.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

MURP

i witnessed a guy being taken out by security (like 10 security people) in handcuffs at the linc for smoking. 

Cerevant

Quote from: MURP on November 16, 2006, 10:30:01 AM
i witnessed a guy being taken out by security (like 10 security people) in handcuffs at the linc for smoking. 

Handcuffed for smoking, or for resisting being ejected for smoking?  Somehow I think it is the latter...
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

MURP


Father Demon

Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 16, 2006, 10:12:01 AM
Those laws are probably extremely old.......like 200 years.  It's amazing how many laws that were written over 100 years ago that are still in effect, even though they aren't enforced and should be cancelled. 

Hell, the military still has sodomy laws and I've seen people get charged and convicted of violating them.  Typically, it's during cases involving adultry (and yes, the military still prosecutes people for adultry).  Anywho, additional counts of sodomy will be charged for any sexual act committed in anything other than the missionary position. 

How does the judge know what happened?  Unless it's a case of spouse walking in on the other spouse in the act of sodomy?  And even then, it would still be a case of he said/she said.

I never understood that while I was in.
The drawback to marital longevity is your wife always knows when you're really interested in her and when you're just trying to bury it.

Diomedes

Quote from: Cerevant on November 16, 2006, 10:50:16 AMSomehow I think it is the latter...

He likely talked back, so they called in the goons, who no doubt handled the situation with utmost professionalism.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger