Arrelious Benn, Philadelphia Eagle

ice grillin you · March 20, 2013, 05:48:12 PM

im not against him per se but avants spot can be fairly easily upgraded and chip def will try....adding benn and casey is already an effort to do so....avants stop drop and roll act isnt gonna work with chipper....i think hed like to see some yac at all his pass catching spots...you could maybe excuse avants inability to run if he was a reliable red zone guy but hes a big guy who cant run AND doesnt score...two td's in the last three years isnt going to cut it...

methdeez · March 20, 2013, 06:02:55 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 20, 2013, 05:48:12 PM
im not against him per se but avants spot can be fairly easily upgraded and chip def will try....adding benn and casey is already an effort to do so....avants stop drop and roll act isnt gonna work with chipper....i think hed like to see some yac at all his pass catching spots...you could maybe excuse avants inability to run if he was a reliable red zone guy but hes a big guy who cant run AND doesnt score...two td's in the last three years isnt going to cut it...

I agree that Chipper is probably not going to keep him around, but I feel like he has helped the team so many times since he has been here. He seems to come up clutch on 3rd downs so many times. He is the kind of role player that doesn't show up in conventional stats, but is valuable.

rjs246 · March 20, 2013, 06:43:59 PM

Avant has great hands and has a very specific role on this or any team, but he can definitely be upgraded. I'd like to see him stick because he has value in very specific scenarios, scenarios that are important to a team's success, but lets not pretend like replacing him is some kind of surprising or especially noteworthy move.

Rome · March 20, 2013, 06:51:07 PM

Denver gets Wes Welker and we get to cheer Jason Hands To Heaven Avant.

And we wonder why the farging Eagles never win the Super Bowl.

ice grillin you · March 20, 2013, 07:03:53 PM

Quote from: Rome on March 20, 2013, 06:51:07 PM
Denver gets Wes Welker and we get to cheer Jason Hands To Heaven Avant.

And we wonder why the farging Eagles never win the Super Bowl.

haha....its funny because its true

PhillyPhanInDC · March 21, 2013, 08:19:37 AM

If you go back to Oregon, Kelly's receivers must be able to block CBs and Safeties reliably. If you can't block, you aren't going to see the field. Avant is just one of those guys that gets 100% out of his abilities all the time, he's never going to break a big one, or be catching long bombs, but he has far and away the most reliable hands on the team, and is an above average blocker. If Benn is healthy, he'll knock off Cooper - I don't see Benn as a threat to Avant at all. Benn and Cooper are two guys who have done dick in the league, where Avant has shown he's capable of producing.

ice grillin you · March 21, 2013, 09:27:03 AM

avant is the classic player that fans of their own team overrate because they see him in a bubble rather than the big picture of how easy he would be to improve on

this notion that he has some legendary hands is a joke

and i dont wanna hear reliable when it comes to him after the buffalo game two years ago

cooper is a joke but benn has the upside to easily supplant avant...whether his health and play allow that to happen who knows...if andy was still the coach id put my money on avant...but new coach open slate and a new offense takes that advantage away from avant....so its probably a coin flip...

also it doesnt have to be a direct replacement...benn and especially casey dont necessarily have to take avants stop drop and roll slot position they just have to get on the field in a pass catching rotation more than him so that they steal opportunities which would ultimtely make avant irrlevant...caseys play making ability and the places he catches the ball on the field which for the most part mirrors avant (flat and seams) all but assures he will eat significantly into avants allotment of chances...and the huge advantage casey has is the ability to make plays after he catches the ball....

benn or a potential draft pick we will have to wait and see on...but i think its safe to assume if avant comes back and plays the same amount of plays as he did last year it will be because other people failed not because hes got the greatest hands in the history of the nfl

Dillen · March 21, 2013, 11:11:46 AM

I also don't get why everyone expects Cooper to be gone. He's the biggest WR on the team and probably the best blocking WR. He's been able to go up for some balls in the endzone. Obviously he's not very good and has some stupid fargin hair, but to Chip, Cooper is probably more valuable than Avant.

Sgt PSN · March 21, 2013, 11:51:49 AM

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2013, 09:27:03 AM
avant is the classic player that fans of their own team overrate because they see him in a bubble rather than the big picture of how easy he would be to improve on

Agreed. I really like Avant, but he's easy to like because he the "blue collar lunch pale" guy. And fans tend to love those guys. Nothing wrong with that and every team needs a few guys like him on their roster, but it's not like he's the hardest guy on the roster to replace. Big body possession receiver who isn't much of a downfield threat isn't exactly a unicorn in the NFL.

Zanshin · March 21, 2013, 11:52:49 AM

How could a guy named Chip NOT keep a guy named Riley? He'd have to. I'm sure he's also in the market for a Chaz or a Slater.

ice grillin you · March 21, 2013, 03:46:40 PM

AB already got extended a year.....dook must have had a hell of an impressive first week in philly finding a place to live

Diomedes · May 16, 2014, 03:49:23 PM

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