Rookies to be stashed on IR

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, May 22, 2007, 11:48:20 AM

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MURP

Quote from: ice grillin you on May 22, 2007, 02:32:06 PM
are players on IR allowed to practice

i didnt think they were allowed and that would eliminate the advantage of stashing a young player who nees to rpactice and learn

it does hurt in the fact that they cannot learn the physical part of the game, but they are allowed to learn the playbook, scheme, breakdown video etc.  Not saying that makes up for anything, but all isnt lost on IR for a rookie.

ice grillin you

but do you want them learning on the field and off or just off

my question is why would you ever stash a young promising player on IR...especially a player you just drafted


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Quote from: mussa on May 22, 2007, 12:19:29 PM
I'm not sold that Hunt will even see a snap this first year.  You just never know

I'm not sold that we'll call a single run play this year.

methdeez

Quote from: ice grillin you on May 22, 2007, 03:37:59 PM
but do you want them learning on the field and off or just off

my question is why would you ever stash a young promising player on IR...especially a player you just drafted




To let him develop whilst not using a roster spot for him, and not exposing him to be picked up from the PS.
Promising does not mean need to use now.

Or was that rhetorical and you know the reasons, but just don;'t agree with them?

ice grillin you

i dont agree with them

a player is not developing if hes not on the field
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Dillen

Agreed. They'll supposedly have the mental side down, but there's much more to football than just that.

Munson

Quote from: ice grillin you on May 22, 2007, 07:16:14 PM
i dont agree with them

a player is not developing if hes not on the field

Wrong. It's not like these guys have never played football before. They know how to hit and be hit, they're some of the top athletes in the world. I think it's safe to say that the top reason why a lot of rookies are busts is because they don't spend enough time learing the playbook/are too stupid to. A year on IR for the "lesser" athletes, AKA the guys who are drafted in the lower rounds, lets them help make up a little bit for their "lesser" talents and athletics by (hopefully) studying the playbook and knowing exactly where they're supposed to be and exactly what they're supposed to be doing when they're able to hit the practice field next year. Not to mention it gives them more time to hit the weight room and not have to worry about thier body getting beat up any other way.

Adjusting to the speed on an NFL level is an issue, yes, but part of what helps them adjust to the speed is being able to know exactly where they're supposed to be/who they're supposed to cover/who they're supposed to block without having to hestiate for that .1 second to think in mid-play, which is enough time for them to get out of posistion/miss the block/run the wrong route. And you're going to say "they shouldn't have to think about it anyway", but lets face it, athletes are as dumb as a sack of bricks these days.

And it's not like they're just sittin around getting fat and out of shape, they can still lift and run. Just can't practice with the team.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

ice grillin you

Quote from: Munson on May 23, 2007, 04:25:48 PM
Wrong. It's not like these guys have never played football before. They know how to hit and be hit, they're some of the top athletes in the world. I think it's safe to say that the top reason why a lot of rookies are busts is because they don't spend enough time learing the playbook/are too stupid to. A year on IR for the "lesser" athletes, AKA the guys who are drafted in the lower rounds, lets them help make up a little bit for their "lesser" talents and athletics by (hopefully) studying the playbook and knowing exactly where they're supposed to be and exactly what they're supposed to be doing when they're able to hit the practice field next year. Not to mention it gives them more time to hit the weight room and not have to worry about thier body getting beat up any other way.

Adjusting to the speed on an NFL level is an issue, yes, but part of what helps them adjust to the speed is being able to know exactly where they're supposed to be/who they're supposed to cover/who they're supposed to block without having to hestiate for that .1 second to think in mid-play, which is enough time for them to get out of posistion/miss the block/run the wrong route. And you're going to say "they shouldn't have to think about it anyway", but lets face it, athletes are as dumb as a sack of bricks these days.

And it's not like they're just sittin around getting fat and out of shape, they can still lift and run. Just can't practice with the team.


   
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Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SunMo

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