Verizon FiOS Fiber Optic Internet ???

Started by Beermonkey, May 17, 2006, 02:46:19 PM

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MURP

good info biscuit.  Id jump ship from Comcast in a hot second if CSN was available on another cable company. 

Cerevant

On the tech side, fiber currently has no equal.  It is immune to weather and EM interference.  Insane bandwidth.  I've seen pictures of the FIOS box, and your NID (phone box) is replaced with a box which has fiber in, and regular phone, ethernet and coax cable out.  No additional cable/DSL modem, etc. needed.

Downside is that it is unpowered, so when they install FIOS at your location, they have to install an UPS to keep your phone working in the event of a power outage.  Not a big deal.
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ice grillin you

#17
really weird...i came home yesterday to my neighborood being torn up...then noticed some yard signs advertising fios...looks like ill have it soon

does it offer the sports subscriptions tho??...i didnt see that on the site
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Seabiscuit36

Quote from: ice grillin you on May 18, 2006, 10:50:06 AM
reaklly weird...i came home yesterday to fin my neighborood being torn up...then noticed some yard signs advertising fios...looks like ill have it soon

does it offer the sports subscriptions tho??...i didnt see that on the site
forums answers about subscriptions
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

ice grillin you

thanks sb....looks like ill be waiting a while on verizon
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Seabiscuit36

Fight against Comcast Withholding Comcast Sportsnet
QuoteConsumer Watch | Trying to right cable loopholeBy Jeff Gelles
Inquirer Columnist
Like it or not, your past can come back to haunt you. But you can also learn from your mistakes. Just ask Susan Eid why she sees rays of hope for Philadelphia sports fans who, like me, are captive customers of Comcast.

In the early '90s, Eid was a lawyer for Boston's Continental Cablevision. One of her jobs was to fight congressional efforts to rein in a cable industry that many considered out of control after its 1984 deregulation.

By 1991, cable companies were billing their average customers nearly $19 a month for their most popular tier of service. That may not seem like much - in today's dollars, it's about $27. But it had jumped 61 percent in five years, triple the rate of inflation.

The industry argued, then as now, that its product was rising in value as well as price. Though it failed to block a new round of price regulation, Eid helped win a concession on rules requiring cable companies to share channels they owned with competitors.

It was one thing, Eid argued, to insist that a media giant such as Time Warner share big-name channels like Home Box Office or Cinemax. Otherwise, how could anyone compete?

But Continental was about to launch a regional channel, New England Cable News Network. "We said, 'There's no way we're going to make this investment if the next day we have to offer it to our competitors,' " Eid recalls.

Congress listened, and a loophole was born - the rule that allows Comcast to refuse to share its Philadelphia SportsNet, and that Eid now fights as an executive at DirecTV.

A long-lived loophole

The "terrestrial loophole" was named for the line it drew. If a channel was delivered via satellite, a cable company had to offer it to competitors at a fair price. If it was sent terrestrially - say, by fiber-optic cable - the company that owned it didn't have to share.

The loophole has long outlived 1992's reregulation of cable prices. In '96, Congress again put its faith in deregulation.

If you're a cable customer, you know what comes next. In most places, competition has not materialized, and price increases routinely eclipse inflation.

Why? One clear reason is that innovation and open markets alone aren't enough to foster competition against companies with a 30-year head start - especially not in an industry conceived as a natural monopoly and nurtured with exclusive local franchises.

Nor were the established companies lollygagging. The '96 law set off a wave of mergers, and the survivors were aggressive and innovative. Comcast rose to the top in part by pushing innovations such as broadband, phone service, and video-on-demand.

Eid rode that same wave, then went to work for former Federal Communications Commission Chairman Michael Powell before joining DirecTV. She shares Powell's faith in free markets, and his belief that government should promote competition, not squash it.

Damage to the market

Which brings us back to the terrestrial loophole - and to Eid's hope that the FCC can undo damage she believes Congress never intended to cause.

The FCC has leverage over Comcast and its No. 2 counterpart, Time Warner Cable, because they need something: FCC approval of their plan to divvy up the assets of the bankrupt Adelphia Communications, then swap cable systems to further enlarge their footprints in various markets.

Competitors such as DirecTV and consumer advocates have been urging the FCC to set conditions to keep either company from abusing its market dominance. A key proposal would bar use of the 1992 loophole for withholding regional sports networks.

Congress has joined the fray. In a letter to FCC Chairman Kevin Martin, Sens. Ted Stevens and Byron Dorgan, the chair and a top Democrat on the Commerce Committee, called local sports critical to TV competition because they "cannot be duplicated."

That's the point. Anyone can create a news or entertainment channel. No one can reinvent your home team.

Comcast owns the Flyers and Sixers, and TV rights to the Phillies. But that shouldn't give it the right to turn hometown fans into choice-less customers.

Go ahead and say Eid is a hired gun who has simply switched sides. I give her credit for owning up to her past.


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"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

Beermonkey

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Actually the Verizon guy is at my house right now & I'll let ya'll now if & what the improvements are.

Rome

Quote from: Beermonkey on June 05, 2006, 01:03:11 PM
Actually the Verizon guy is at my house right now & let ya'll now if & what the improvements are.


Free porn?

Beermonkey

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 05, 2006, 01:09:47 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 05, 2006, 01:03:11 PM
Actually the Verizon guy is at my house right now & let ya'll now if & what the improvements are.


Free porn?

Always. I just performed an All-Big Boobed video stress test & it flew. With the time I save rubbing one out, I can spend more time posting.   :yay

While the fiber optic network can support faster speeds, Verizon offers 3 levels of access speed based on price, with the highest being 30mbs. I opted for 15 mbs, which I was told Verizon will bump up to 20mbs soon, due to Comcast doing the same. On my old Comcast system, I was running around 11-12mps. Not a huge difference but very noticeable, especially when I access my work server.

samby4eva

Seabiscuit - i have a solution for your blackout problem. Send me an email.

samby4eva

Seabiscuit - I don't have PM's just yet, send me an email samby4eva@comcast.net

Seabiscuit36

I will later, im at work.  No external emails. 
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

samby4eva

ok cool, I live in Elkton Maryland and had the same issue; but now i get all the flyers games.  there is a loophole that works in our favor. send me an email and i will explain how