Our 1st Big Signing !!

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I am happy with the Schobel signing, when all's said and done.

[stalker]

Look at Schobel's face in that pic. Looks like Sims is really giving the guy all he can handle.


Or at least holding on for dear life.

I'll toss in my two cents, I think Schobel is a damn good signing, it fills a need, and I think the guy has upside. Cincy never threw the ball to any of their TEs, I think between the three they had a total of 35-40 catches. If I remember Schobel was pretty highly ranked in terms of TEs in his draft class, which was a pretty good one.

Name                RD    Pick     Team
Jeremy Shockey      1     14     N.Y. Giants
Daniel Graham        1     21     New England
Jerramy Stevens     1     28     Seattle
Doug Jolley             2     55     Oakland
Matt Schobel           3      67     Cincinnati
Chris Baker             3     88     N.Y. Jets
Justin Peelle            4    103    San Diego
Randy McMichael     4    114     Miami

Some pretty good TE's were taken before and after the dude.

Here is his write-up from the '02 Draft from NFL.com:

Matt Schobel 
Position: Tight End   
College: Texas Christian 
Height: 6-5 
Weight: 263 
Hometown: Columbus, Texas 


ANALYSIS
Positives: Physical position blocker who has nimble feet and does a nice job escaping the jam to get into his routes ... Has excellent lateral agility and uses his hands well to lock on and ride the defender wide ... Catches well in the short area ... Has an explosive initial burst off the snap ... Decisive moving out to neutralize the linebackers ... Stays low while trying to out-muscle defenders ... Good in-line battler who has the quickness to hook defensive ends inside on sweeps ... Extends his arms to catch away from the framework ... Maintains balance when engaging defenders ... Has the short area speed to line up in a variety of slots ... Looks in the routine pass, making proper jumps to get to the ball at its highest point ... Possesses the speed to threaten the seam.

Negatives: Has limited starting experience ... More of a finesse blocker, lacking explosion behind his hits ... Will lean into the defender and waist bends at times when trying to recover ... Not real shifty running after the catch and does not run his routes with much urgency ... Needs to sustain blocks better, as he relies too much on using his size ... Pops straight up and does not drive off the ball with authority ... Not a "gym rat" and will go at his own pace in the weight room ... Tough player, but does not play with the aggressiveness or intensity you'd expect.

Who gives a shtein where he was drafted or how the guys above him and below him have done? All that matters is how he has done. He is exceedingly mediocre. That being said, his overall contributions will be directly proportional to the confidence Donovan has in him. I don't honestly believe that Reid had any Chad Lewis plays on his card the years when Lewis made the Probowl.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Who gives a shtein where he was drafted or how the guys above him and below him have done? All that matters is how he has done. He is exceedingly mediocre. That being said, his overall contributions will be directly proportional to the confidence Donovan has in him. I don't honestly believe that Reid had any Chad Lewis plays on his card the years when Lewis made the Probowl.

My point fargstick, is that the guy should be a capable backup, and has talent. I wasn't pimping him as the greatest TE ever. Cincy never utilized a TE in their offense, other than to stay in and block for Rudi Johnson. The only time they had a ball come their way was when Kitna/Palmer checked down. So it's a possiblity the guy has some talent that wasn't used in Cincy, and it may be here.

To sum up, suck my balls, you waste of space.

[rjs246]

Poetry, PPinDC.

[stalker]

Where do you draw the conclusion that he has talent and should be a capable backup? Sure he MAY have talent. I don't put much stock in draft evaluations (Quentin Caver) or Combine results (Mike Mamula). He has not shown that he is demonstably better than Steven Spach, or worse. I am one, however, who believes in Reid's pro evaluations and accept but am non-plussed by this signing.

Imagine this, I can disagree without a personal attack.

[FreakisaKearseWord]

Where do you draw the conclusion that he has talent and should be a capable backup? Sure he MAY have talent. I don't put much stock in draft evaluations (Quentin Caver) or Combine results (Mike Mamula). He has not shown that he is demonstably better than Steven Spach, or worse. I am one, however, who believes in Reid's pro evaluations and accept but am non-plussed by this signing.

Imagine this, I can disagree without a personal attack.

Me too. Shut up.

Would you rather have James Whalen back?

[DonovanTheMessiah]

Where do you draw the conclusion that he has talent and should be a capable backup? Sure he MAY have talent. I don't put much stock in draft evaluations (Quentin Caver) or Combine results (Mike Mamula). He has not shown that he is demonstably better than Steven Spach, or worse. I am one, however, who believes in Reid's pro evaluations and accept but am non-plussed by this signing.

Imagine this, I can disagree without a personal attack.

This guy has actually made plays in his career, that already makes him better than Spach.

[mussa]

i didn't see anywhere on his positives if he can catch drop and roll though.  thats huge in our offense, HUGE

[DonovanTheMessiah]

i didn't see anywhere on his positives if he can catch drop and roll though.  thats huge in our offense, HUGE

Chad Lewis should be able to teach him that.

[stalker]

Where do you draw the conclusion that he has talent and should be a capable backup? Sure he MAY have talent. I don't put much stock in draft evaluations (Quentin Caver) or Combine results (Mike Mamula). He has not shown that he is demonstably better than Steven Spach, or worse. I am one, however, who believes in Reid's pro evaluations and accept but am non-plussed by this signing.

Imagine this, I can disagree without a personal attack.

Me too. Shut up.

Would you rather have James Whalen back?

No. I must reitterate that I am a fan of Reid's pro evaluations and his belief in niche type players.

And.......Schoebel's wife is a hot smokin' piece of ass!