Stop me if this has been discussed, but...
Through the first two games Bucky hasn't done anything too impressive, IMO, and in fact he hasn't been given much of a chance to even touch the ball. Does this strike anyone else as a bad idea?
He hasn't proven in a game situation that he can be our featured back (since the injury) and it seems illogical to deny him touches in these games.
Does Reid really have faith in his ability to carry the running game? Is he intentionally not showcasing Correll for some reason?
Its preseason. Its vanilla.
At TC, Buck ran the ball a TON. They know what he can do.
I wouldn't be too concerned with it. They're getting a good look at how he cuts and moves laterally in practice. That's the biggest concern coming back from an ACL tear. With the Duce situation, they need to see what else they have in other runningbacks incase they need to keep one of them. I wouldn't sweat it too much.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 18, 2003, 10:38:00 AM
Its preseason. Its vanilla.
I agree that everything is very vanilla, and that's valid, but game situations are a whole lot different than practice and I won't feel comfortable until he can at least break off some good runs with our starting O-Line in. Through two games Buck has 6 rushes for 12 yards. I'm not convinced that sprinkles and hot fudge could liven up that much 'vanilla.'
PS- I know that Reid and Co. couldn't care less how comfortable I feel, but it doesn't change the fact that with our starting O-Line and plenty of weapons around him to draw attention, Buck is only averaging 2 yards a carry. Blech.
Look for Buck to get more carries in the last 2 preseason games. They've gotten a good look at some of the other backs they brought in and should have a good idea of what they bring to the table. My guess is that Buck could see about 8-10 touches in each of the final 2 games.
Call it vanilla or whatever you want...you're not going to see a lot of O-line stunting and smashmouth running during the preseason.
This line is more than up to the task, and I'm sure that Buck can do well. They don't have to risk breaking his leg to prove the point right now.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on August 18, 2003, 10:50:36 AM
This line is more than up to the task, and I'm sure that Buck can do well. They don't have to risk breaking his leg to prove the point right now.
Exactly.
Some of you are forgetting what you saw in 2001.
They'll open the play book on Monday night, Sept. 8th.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 18, 2003, 10:51:28 AM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on August 18, 2003, 10:50:36 AM
This line is more than up to the task, and I'm sure that Buck can do well. They don't have to risk breaking his leg to prove the point right now.
Exactly.
Some of you are forgetting what you saw in 2001.
And everyone else is forgetting that he blew his farging knee out last year, only caught 13 passes as a rookie and hasn't been a full-time starter since high school...
He tore his ACL...and it was the most minor of ACL tears. NO damage anywhere else. No meniscus tear, no MCL tear. Simple tear. Healed.
He could have played last year, but they didn't need him enough to risk it.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 18, 2003, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 18, 2003, 10:51:28 AM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on August 18, 2003, 10:50:36 AM
This line is more than up to the task, and I'm sure that Buck can do well. They don't have to risk breaking his leg to prove the point right now.
Exactly.
Some of you are forgetting what you saw in 2001.
And everyone else is forgetting that he blew his farging knee out last year, only caught 13 passes as a rookie and hasn't been a full-time starter since high school...
why risk it in pre-season. no need to go overboard and have buckhalter on the sidelines again.
Besides...if you give Buck the ball now and show what he can do on film, the other teams in the NFL will have that film on him. Isn't it better to go into Sept 8th with some firepower the other team doesn't know much about?
Remember, one of the TB defensive weaknesses is running the ball up the gut - if you have the o-line to do it - which the birds do.
Quote from: mikey418 on August 18, 2003, 11:01:12 AM
Besides...if you give Buck the ball now and show what he can do on film, the other teams in the NFL will have that film on him. Isn't it better to go into Sept 8th with some firepower the other team doesn't know much about?
Remember, one of the TB defensive weaknesses is running the ball up the gut - if you have the o-line to do it - which the birds do.
This is the kind of thinking that seems most reasonable to me. I know that a major part of the pre-season is just staying healthy and no one wants to see Buck get hurt again (especially with our ridiculous RB situation). If this were Duce or some other healthy RB who wasn't coming off of an injury I would understand keeping them on the sidelines and limiting their work, but Buck needs reps. And not practice reps. Real live, 'oh my god that 300 pound, steroid-sweating man is trying to tear my legs from my body' game reps. 6 rushed in two games isn't going to be enough after a year away from football.
I hope PSN is right and they start feeding him the ball over the next two games...
i just wanted to point out that buckhalter is still on our team. i don't know why everyone is freaking out so much. we're fine.
I love that I started this thread almost 3 years ago.
Just to clarify. farg BUCKHALTER.
That is all.
From PE.com today:
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Welcome to the debut of our off-season Tuesday feature, Complex Workout! In this feature, we catch up with players that are getting an early jump on next season or working their way back from injury. Today we catch up with running back Correll Buckhalter.
Correll Buckhalter has missed three of his five seasons with the Eagles because of knee injuries. Yet he continues to fight his way back. His beaming personality and hard-work ethic help him each and every day.
"It's been unfortunate, but I know as long as I continue to work hard and think positive my day to get back on that field and perform is going to be here," Buckhalter said following a recent workout.
Buckhalter says he's about "75 to 80%" back. He can run, cut and even jump. His area of focus right now is the quad muscle.
"The main component of me getting back is my quad muscle and getting the girth back," Buckhalter explained. "I can pretty much do everything. It's just the strength factor right now."
The 6-foot, 222-pound Buckhalter successfully returned from a torn ACL in 2002 to finish with a career-high nine touchdowns in 2003. He then suffered a torn patellar tendon injury during a preseason game against Baltimore in 2004 and missed the entire season.
He seemed to be making positive strides rehabbing his knee, but then he pulled up in a training camp practice in pain and that was it. The injury was initially announced as a contusion of the knee. But as head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder explained, Buckhalter re-ruptured his patellar tendon. Surgery followed as Dr. James Andrews reinforced Buckhalter's patella femoral complex with a stainless steel wire. From there, it's been rehab, rehab and more rehab.
"My off-season conditioning started after my surgery was over," Buckhalter said. "It's just been a process for me, but it's been coming along real well. I feel great.
"Every year I just feel better and better. I feel I have a lot more football to play."
When healthy, the 6-foot, 222-pound Buckhalter is a perfect complement to the likes of Brian Westbrook and Ryan Moats. He's a big, strong, slashing back with receiving skills, take-it-to-the-house abilities and a knowledge of the West Coast offense. He's had a pair of promising seasons, reflected by his 11 touchdowns and an impressive 4.4 yards per carry average.
There is little question that -- when healthy -- he could help this offense. But there is certainly the question of whether Buckhalter will be more susceptible to knee injuries moving forward.
"I got hurt twice in a row, so obviously people are going to think 'he can't do it no more,'" Buckhalter acknowledged. "I know what I can do and know what I have to get done.
"I've been able to come back before and I know this one won't be no different."
His faith, he says, has guided him through these trials and tribulations. He's also had Burkholder pushing him daily.
Now Buckhalter has a lot of time -- along with yards -- to make up. There are miles to go before he sleeps.
While participating in the June mini-camp remains a possibility, he expects to be full-go in training camp.
"There's so much frustration built up inside me. I just want to let it out on the field," Buckhalter said. "I'm just looking forward to going to training camp and showing the people that I still can run the football.
"It's too early for me to not be able to play football. I'm still young. I can't end my career with injury. I have dreams and I want to reach my dreams."
It's a shame, C-Buck was always one of my favorite (current) Eagles. It's a real long shot the guy ever plays the way he was capable of, but man it would be good to have him in the line-up at 100%.
bucky gets more work on his knees than a hunts point ho
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 18, 2003, 10:54:29 AM
He tore his ACL...and it was the most minor of ACL tears. NO damage anywhere else. No meniscus tear, no MCL tear. Simple tear. Healed.
spoken like a true prophet ^-^
Quote from: rjs246 on March 21, 2006, 04:35:08 PM
I love that I started this thread almost 3 years ago.
i wanted to see what the very last thread on the board was and this was it.
ah, that tampa bay game was a lot of fun.
i watched it at a strip club in utah with a client of mine for work at the time.
It's a shame his knees are made of the same materials as Tyrone Hill's face, because the guy has some talent.
Remember the moves he put on I forget who @ Dallas in 2003? Good stuff.
It feels like the last time Buck saw action the Eagles were in Kelly green.
Kelly green
:'(
Quote from: rjs246 on August 18, 2003, 11:09:46 AM
I hope PSN is right and they start feeding him the ball over the next two games...
I'm pretty sure I was. You can put those concerns to bed now.
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 21, 2006, 04:44:49 PM
It's a shame his knees are made of the same materials as Tyrone Hill's face, because the guy has some talent.
Remember the moves he put on I forget who @ Dallas in 2003? Good stuff.
I remember that as well. His high flying touchdown agianst Miami on Mon Night was pretty spectacular too.
QuoteDr. James Andrews reinforced Buckhalter's patella femoral complex with a stainless steel wire.
So we can't call him glass knees anymore?
Quote from: Phanatic on March 21, 2006, 05:57:46 PM
QuoteDr. James Andrews reinforced Buckhalter's patella femoral complex with a stainless steel wire.
So we can't call him glass knees anymore?
He's wirey.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 21, 2006, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on March 21, 2006, 05:57:46 PM
QuoteDr. James Andrews reinforced Buckhalter's patella femoral complex with a stainless steel wire.
So we can't call him glass knees anymore?
He's wirey.
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Bonus points for Phreak.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 21, 2006, 05:13:27 PM
I remember that as well. His high flying touchdown agianst Miami on Mon Night was pretty spectacular too.
That was Westbrook, Sassy...
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 22, 2006, 08:54:53 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 21, 2006, 05:13:27 PM
I remember that as well. His high flying touchdown agianst Miami on Mon Night was pretty spectacular too.
That was Westbrook, Sassy...
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........or not.
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I stand corrected. :)
I think Romey was referring to the pass from Freddie to Westbrook. But I don't even remember if that was against Miami.
It was.
Westbrook beat Zach Thomas for the TD.
Westbrook also scored on a running play (GASP!) on the first possession. It was like 20-25 yards, something like that. That's the play I thought he lept through the air on.
Meh - I was gagged that night from partying at Tailgate Russ's shindig at Calder Race Track.
Good times.
:yay
What ever happens you have to admire his dedication.....that's a lot of pain to go through to come back and give it a go!
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 22, 2006, 09:46:48 PM
Westbrook also scored on a running play (GASP!) on the first possession. It was like 20-25 yards, something like that. That's the play I thought he lept through the air on.
Meh - I was gagged that night from partying at Tailgate Russ's shindig at Calder Race Track.
Good times.
:yay
Never thought this would cheer me up but who set up westy's TD run(which happened on the second play of that game)? Pinky! I can't recall how far it was but I believe it was over 40+. That play was rather generic for the birds that year as they opened several games with the Pinky go long play.
Quote from: Don Ho on March 22, 2006, 10:33:34 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 22, 2006, 09:46:48 PM
Westbrook also scored on a running play (GASP!) on the first possession. It was like 20-25 yards, something like that. That's the play I thought he lept through the air on.
Meh - I was gagged that night from partying at Tailgate Russ's shindig at Calder Race Track.
Good times.
:yay
Never thought this would cheer me up but who set up westy's TD run(which happened on the second play of that game)? Pinky! I can't recall how far it was but I believe it was over 40+. That play was rather generic for the birds that year as they opened several games with the Pinky go long play.
Yep. If I remember correctly, the Eagles opened up with a big kick return around midfield and then McNabb hit Pink deep and Westbrook finished it off. There was a season's worth of highlights in that game too.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 22, 2006, 09:09:22 PM
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Simply Westbrook in a Buckhalter jersey...
Don't worry Rome, I got your back.
Waaaaay back. :paranoid
Rome missed that play because he was reading his Jaguars Yearbook during the game
farg Buckhalter.
Buckhalter - the perfect fit! For a trade with the Bills. Buckhalter-McGahee, how could the Bills resist that opportunity.
Hollis, Buckhalter and a draft pick for Moulds. Thats the same as Hollis and a draft pick as far as player contribution to the Eagles team is concerned.
Their backfield tandem would have one knee between them.
Cool... like our LB corps.