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Title: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on April 25, 2019, 10:44:05 PM
Just as I predicted.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on April 25, 2019, 10:44:49 PM
Nice pick
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 25, 2019, 10:46:05 PM
rip mailata
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2019, 10:47:35 PM
Solid pick

Wanted Jacobs but this is necessary
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 25, 2019, 10:54:34 PM
I love this mostly because Howie...
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on April 25, 2019, 11:05:07 PM
https://youtu.be/AP-ZCORk97k
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 25, 2019, 11:16:03 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2019-nfl-draft-grades-eagles-get-a-b-for-trading-up-to-land-andre-dillard-as-heir-apparent-at-left-tackle/amp/

Crisco luvs him sum Iggles. 

🤣
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on April 26, 2019, 05:05:46 AM
farg U Prisco.

Most everyone loved this pick.  He was high on everyone's board.  ESPN said he got worked at the Senior Bowl, NFL Network Crew went nuts over this pick and said he had a good Senior Bowl.  Mock drafts and "experts" can kiss my as
It's a nice solid pick.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 26, 2019, 06:42:49 AM
They needed to find Peters' replacement and here he is.  A 4 and 6 is a lot to give up to go up three slots, but I trust Douglas' and Howie's judgment there.   The roster is pretty well set anyway. They really do need to crush those seconds, though.  Just stay put on both and take bpa's.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on April 26, 2019, 08:53:30 AM
So, this guy isn't a head case, right? Like, actually wants to play? Isn't a fireman or dreams of making music in his garage?
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on April 26, 2019, 10:15:18 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 26, 2019, 06:42:49 AM
They needed to find Peters' replacement and here he is.  A 4 and 6 is a lot to give up to go up three slots, but I trust Douglas' and Howie's judgment there.   The roster is pretty well set anyway. They really do need to crush those seconds, though.  Just stay put on both and take bpa's.

I thought they'd take a Tackle last year because of Peters injury. Goedert was more of a luxury pick, I get it you add a weapon and he helps immediately for another SB run. Peters was only playing 3/4's of the snaps last season so it's not unrealistic to see Dillard get some paying time. From all reports he's already outstanding in pass pro but needs work on run blocking. Pass pro is the most important aspect of a Tackle. Every mock I read had Dillard in the 10-15 range. Thought the price to move up 3 slots was a bit steep but Howie said he had Dillard ranked in the top 10.

Think they trade 57 for more picks
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 26, 2019, 11:10:13 AM
they had to pay up a bit since houston was gonna grab him...you want him you gotta get him.

the 6 i could care less about. % wise there is not much a difference between a 6 and a udfa in terms of how often they pan out into decent players. you were always going to give up the 4 anyway.

they might move vatai now and can recoup at least 1 of those picks. between dillard and mailata youd figure 1 can function as a swing tackle.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: AO1 on April 26, 2019, 10:15:18 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 26, 2019, 06:42:49 AM
They needed to find Peters' replacement and here he is.  A 4 and 6 is a lot to give up to go up three slots, but I trust Douglas' and Howie's judgment there.   The roster is pretty well set anyway. They really do need to crush those seconds, though.  Just stay put on both and take bpa's.

I thought they'd take a Tackle last year because of Peters injury. Goedert was more of a luxury pick, I get it you add a weapon and he helps immediately for another SB run. Peters was only playing 3/4's of the snaps last season so it's not unrealistic to see Dillard get some paying time. From all reports he's already outstanding in pass pro but needs work on run blocking. Pass pro is the most important aspect of a Tackle. Every mock I read had Dillard in the 10-15 range. Thought the price to move up 3 slots was a bit steep but Howie said he had Dillard ranked in the top 10.

Dillard is not playing OT in the nfl in 2019
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 11:50:34 AM
someone might have posted this but i saw a stat last night that dillard gave up 1 sack in 677 drop backs
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 11:53:10 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 25, 2019, 10:54:34 PM
I love this mostly because Howie...

you mean joe d

howie can trade.....cant really draft tho
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on April 26, 2019, 12:29:20 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: AO1 on April 26, 2019, 10:15:18 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 26, 2019, 06:42:49 AM
They needed to find Peters' replacement and here he is.  A 4 and 6 is a lot to give up to go up three slots, but I trust Douglas' and Howie's judgment there.   The roster is pretty well set anyway. They really do need to crush those seconds, though.  Just stay put on both and take bpa's.

I thought they'd take a Tackle last year because of Peters injury. Goedert was more of a luxury pick, I get it you add a weapon and he helps immediately for another SB run. Peters was only playing 3/4's of the snaps last season so it's not unrealistic to see Dillard get some paying time. From all reports he's already outstanding in pass pro but needs work on run blocking. Pass pro is the most important aspect of a Tackle. Every mock I read had Dillard in the 10-15 range. Thought the price to move up 3 slots was a bit steep but Howie said he had Dillard ranked in the top 10.

Dillard is not playing OT in the nfl in 2019

Not 1 snap? Name your bet
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 01:11:36 PM
im not going to bet because garbage time late in the year is possible but i bet he literally isnt active for some games
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on April 26, 2019, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 01:11:36 PM
im not going to bet because garbage time late in the year is possible but i bet he literally isnt active for some games

Way too early to say...they figure that stuff out in camp. They're not keeping 5 tackles - all who can't play guard - on the roster...so someone's gotta go. Vaitai's on the last year of his deal, I think they try to unload him day 3.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2019, 06:24:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 11:50:34 AM
someone might have posted this but i saw a stat last night that dillard gave up 1 sack in 677 drop backs

Yup and people discounting it because of Leach's quick out offense

He's got good mechanics. Let's hope he can play
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 09:57:17 PM
Once​ again, Howie Roseman targeted a premium​ position with a first-round resource,​ trading up three​ spots​ on​ Thursday night​ to​​ select Washington State tackle Andre Dillard. Roseman has now selected eight players in the first round over the course of nine drafts in charge — four defensive linemen, three offensive linemen and a quarterback. In order to move from No. 25 to No. 22, the Eagles sent the Ravens a fourth-round pick (No. 127 overall) and a sixth-round pick (No. 197 overall).

After the pick, Roseman said Dillard was a top 10 player on the Eagles' draft board. The team tried to trade up for him sooner but was wary of surrendering either of its second-round picks. In Dillard, the Eagles add a player considered perhaps the draft's best pass protector. The expectations are clear: Dillard comes to Philadelphia to eventually replace the 37-year-old Jason Peters at left tackle.

"It's hard to find offensive linemen," Roseman said following the selection. "It's hard to find guys with great feet, big bodies, big hands. It's hard to find these guys. They don't grow on trees. There's very few people in the world, you know, it's the big man theory. There's very few big men with that kind of feet. It's just unusual to get him. We like our offensive line depth. We liked it before today. We liked the guys that we have on our team. It's just an area that we want to continue to invest in and be strong in and continue to develop guys because you need it. You need it over the course of the season. You need the depth. It's just a great situation for a young player to come into."

After the trade, the Eagles currently have only four 2019 draft picks remaining — two second-rounders (No. 53 and No. 57 overall), one fourth-rounder (No. 138 overall) and one fifth-rounder (No. 163 overall).

Dane Brugler's scouting report
*Courtesy of Brugler's NFL Draft guide

BACKGROUND: A three-star offensive tackle recruit out of high school, Andreas "Andre" Dillard played offensive tackle in football and forward in basketball at Woodinville, Wash. At only 240 pounds, he didn't expect to play college football until his senior season when he was named KingCo Crest Division Offensive Lineman of the Year, giving up basketball as a senior to focus on football. Not ranked among the top 100 offensive tackles in the 2014 recruiting class, he held offers from lower programs like Eastern Washington, Idaho and Portland State until Washington State entered the picture in the final months of his recruitment. Dillard is a legacy at the program as his father (Mitch) played at Washington State in the late 1980s as a walk-on linebacker, tight end and center. He accepted his invitation to the 2019 Senior Bowl.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 10:20:30 PM
https://twitter.com/EaglesInsider/status/1121826701862952962
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 30, 2019, 09:54:10 PM
Quote from: Gennaro FiliceBEST PICK: Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State
Philadelphia Eagles, Round 1, No. 22 overall

Howie Roseman probably shouldn't expect a Christmas card from Brian Gaine -- not after the Philly GM ate his Houston counterpart's first-round lunch. Heading into this draft, two things were abundantly clear about the Texans' outlook: 1) They HAD to upgrade their sieve of an offensive line, and 2) they had eyes for Andre Dillard. As the starting left tackle over the past three seasons in Mike Leach's Air Raid offense, Dillard certainly didn't lack pass-blocking experience. And the 6-foot-5, 315-pounder proved to be far more athletic and nimble-footed than a 6-foot-5, 315-pounder should be. His dominance was clear to the naked eye (Brian Baldinger narrates a minute of O-line porn here) and the nerd mind (Dillard allowed one sack on 722 pass-blocking snaps last season, according to Pro Football Focus, making him the site's highest-graded offensive lineman in pass pro). So, perfect blind-side protector for young franchise QB Deshaun Watson, right? And when Dillard surprisingly remained available into the 20s on draft night, it seemed as though the Texans might just get the plug-and-play LT they sorely needed with the 23rd overall pick. Then Roseman's Eagles leapfrogged Houston -- vaulting from No. 25 to No. 22 by giving the Ravens a pair of Day 3 picks -- to pounce on Wazzu's smooth-operating edge eraser. Left in a lurch, Gaine grasped for OT Tytus Howard, a much less proven prospect out of Alabama State. Meanwhile, the Eagles are now in an enviable position at left tackle. With nine-time Pro Bowler Jason Peters potentially heading toward his last NFL season at age 37, Philly suddenly has a highly regarded heir apparent in place. So, while Gaine's Texans would've immediately slotted Dillard into the starting lineup out of necessity, Roseman's Eagles can ease the newbie into the league with spot duty before having him fill a Jason Peters-sized hole in 2020. This will allow Philly O-line coach Jeff Stoutland to put a professional polish on some undeveloped power components in Dillard's game. And this is the kind of aggressive, long-game move that you can make when your roster is as well-rounded as Roseman's. The rich get richer, while Gaine feels the pain.

The rest of the article. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001029102/article/nfc-east-draft-grades-taterskins-eagles-shine-giants-confound?campaign=tw-cf-sf211884868-sf211884868&sf211884868=1&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral)
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on April 30, 2019, 10:29:43 PM
Please look forward to Howie dicking over the Raiders next year.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on November 04, 2019, 05:37:51 PM
Not bad at all yesterday.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on May 28, 2020, 09:53:35 AM
Tra Thomas doing a YouTube breakdown thing now...gives Dillard a close look

https://youtu.be/Z3W0lXWMG6I
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on May 29, 2020, 12:55:27 AM
I forgot how much he played last year, now we pray this cat works out.  That play against Seattle (regular season game) where Arcega-Whiteside tripped over Dillard's feet summed up JJ's season.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2020, 01:55:48 PM
Welp.

https://twitter.com/tim_mcmanus/status/1295384492987867137 21
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 27, 2020, 03:19:30 PM
Done for the season.

Torn biceps.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on August 27, 2020, 03:58:13 PM
Curious what kind of clause JP has in his contract for if (when) he's asked to move back to LT.  They ain't really gonna put Mailata in there when JP could be used, right?  Pryor is a guard, and has performed well enough when he's played...he's got to be the RG at this point, with JP moving over to his rightful spot, backed up by the project (Mailata).

Prince is an RT, right?
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 27, 2020, 04:10:34 PM
mailata is lucky if he makes the team....theres no chance hes starting
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 27, 2020, 08:51:41 PM
going to be

jp-seamalu-kelce-pryor-lane

this is a pretty mediocre line all told. jp is a fossil, was kinda bad last year, is a year older and has been prepping to play rg. seamalu is an average lg. kelce and lane are playing at high levels, but pryor is replacement level.

short answer is rip carson's bones
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 27, 2020, 08:54:07 PM
Don't worry, Peters will also get hurt before the season gets cancelled.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on August 27, 2020, 11:05:09 PM
As long as they don't lose a third starting OL before the season even starts.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on August 03, 2021, 05:53:45 PM
This dude is a bust.

Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on August 03, 2021, 06:15:39 PM
If he starts at LT it's a confirmation that Sirianni has zero power in the building.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 03, 2021, 08:03:50 PM
If Mailata continues to outshine him then I think he's probably traded before the season.

Someone out there would give up a pick for him.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on August 03, 2021, 08:22:06 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 03, 2021, 05:53:45 PM
This dude is a bust.

Yes he is!  And they traded up for this dude too!
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on August 10, 2021, 06:47:42 PM
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1425172601891004416

Driscoll is better at RT than Dillard, a so-called natural LT who can't stay healthy, or beat out Mailata.  Trade him for anything you can get or cut him.  The money paid is gone, you need talent, there's none in Dillard...move on.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 10, 2021, 06:52:29 PM
Dillard, Hurts, and a 3rd for UrlacherWatson, who says no?
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on August 10, 2021, 10:18:26 PM
Andre we hardly knew ye.  Well, knew enough, that you stink.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on August 19, 2021, 03:30:19 PM
99% sure he's a bum but if they're only recouping a late round pick for him I'd rather hold onto him

QuoteThe Philadelphia Eagles are expected to go with Jordan Mailata at left tackle, which could make 2019 first-round pick Andre Dillard expendable.

Teams have inquired with the Eagles about Dillard's availability, according to a report.

Dillard didn't play last season due to a biceps injury.

JEFF MCLANE/PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 19, 2021, 03:39:20 PM
if they are willing to trade a first round even back up T still on his rookie deal for a late rounder then he's much worse than any of us even knows
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on August 19, 2021, 03:48:12 PM
Quote from: TAFKASD on August 19, 2021, 03:30:19 PM
99% sure he's a bum but if they're only recouping a late round pick for him I'd rather hold onto him

Not sure those are the only two choices. He could easily not make the 53. He's garbage according to everyone who's seen him in camp.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on August 19, 2021, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 19, 2021, 03:39:20 PM
if they are willing to trade a first round even back up T still on his rookie deal for a late rounder then he's much worse than any of us even knows

He's always injured and training camp reports have been abysmal
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 19, 2021, 07:06:12 PM
Too bad.  I liked the pick when they took him.  Looked like a sure thing.  Oh well.  At least we'll always have LII. 
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 19, 2021, 07:14:03 PM
I hope he makes a roster somewhere else and maybe becomes a decent player. Hard to have ill will towards the guy, he actually wanted to play, as far as I can tell, which is a major improvement over some previous linemen they've drafted.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 19, 2021, 10:51:15 PM
he was a lost cause the moment his mom said "football chose him"

you cant have an offensive lineman that isnt a complete psychopathic maniac that wants to murder people....its the only way to play the position.

hes a softie little baby who happens to be huge but he dont want that smoke
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on August 28, 2022, 10:36:21 AM
NO lost their (projected starter) LT yesterday...they've got a gimpy back up but....they join several other teams in desperate-to-pressing need:  Dallas, Pittsburgh, Chicago all have needs.

Does Dillard get dealt?
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 28, 2022, 11:11:15 AM
He's under contract through next season, unless someone wants to make a stupid offer for him there's no reason not to keep him for depth. One more season on the bench isn't going to make him unable to be a serviceable starter for a decade somewhere.
Title: Re: Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on August 28, 2022, 12:03:57 PM
I agree. I remember Stoutland saying several months ago he told Dillard he'd need to learn the right side as well. I haven't seen any preseason reports as to if he has been or not, but I'll assume he has to some degree.

Also, for all the trite cliches you hear about "you can't teach ______ "  (speed, smarts, etc - which is almost always wrong), if there is one thing you can't teach it's inborn natural athletic ability, which was always Dillard's calling card. I doubt he'll amount to anything but he is a case where patience is ok.