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kc -4.5
47.5
fox 100
kevin burkhardt, charles davis
Times yours
A serious test for the OL this week with the Chiefs DL especially Justin Houston.
1-1
yup...just mail this one in then beat the giants
"Harrummph, I got to do a better job, harrummph"
I almost miss the throat clearing directly into the microphone at the post game pressers.
Other than division games, this is the regular season game I most want the Eagles to win. farg Andy Reid.
This seems like a get our hopes up game where they beat a team who just smashed the pats, only to let Eli beat them next week.
Even though I non-flippantly declared the Eagles to go 16-0, I'd be surprised if they beat the Chiefs. I'll even be mildly surprised if anybody hypes this as a sensei vs. student kind of thing
Alex Smith went from the king of checkdowns to airing it out against he Patriots. What the farg is he going to do to these DBs?
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 12, 2017, 09:32:44 PM
I'll even be mildly surprised if anybody hypes this as a sensei vs. student kind of thing
it should be billed as the nun who picks the homeless man off the street gives him some bread and he ends up running the church soup kitchen
sensei vs night janitor at the dojo who does fake stick fighting with the mop
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 12, 2017, 09:43:55 PM
sensei vs night janitor at the dojo who does fake stick fighting with the mop
So Obi Wan vs Star Wars kid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPPj6viIBmU
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 12, 2017, 09:43:55 PM
sensei vs night janitor at the dojo who does fake stick fighting with the mop
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Andy doesn't even need to watch tape to get the whole Eagles playbook. Just dig out the 2015 Chiefs playbook and bookmark the 50% of plays it would be easiest for a simpleton to understand.
Eagles probably lose, but I'll say that I doubt the Chiefs play another game this season as complete as they did against NE. Good team, but not that good.
i dont know what "not that good" means but they have won 11 and 12 the last two years and should do the same again this year...i suppose they arent good enough to win the superbowl but they have almost a zero chance to lose to the eagles at home
Not that good just means not as good as they showed against NE. They played close to the perfect game and looked like the best team in the NFL by a mile on opening weekend. I think they are good, but as long as Alex Smith is their QB that offense will always have limited upside.
maybe but ill take an overachieving team that won in new england over an under achieving team that won in wash and as long as carson wentz stays a turnover machine cant throw the ball down the field or for touchdowns the eagles offense will have limited upside
There's gotta be some vegas prop bet on which coach burns his timeouts first, right?
You could probably just bet on the coin flip if you want to do that.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2017, 09:35:19 PM
Alex Smith went from the king of checkdowns to airing it out against he Patriots. What the farg is he going to do to these DBs?
throw a million check downs, probably.
chiefs are beatable, but you have AR on a long week against a significantly dumber version of himself, eagles traveling, darby speed gone to help deal with Hill...you need a clean game. no turnovers and it's winnable. obviously it's winnable if the spread is 4.5 @KC, but it's going to take a good game from wentz and a D/ST TD probably.
I don't get the Alex Smith hate. He was a late bloomer, but SF shouldn't have gotten rid of him #stilllovekap
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 12, 2017, 11:29:19 PM
I don't get the Alex Smith hate. He was a late bloomer, but SF shouldn't have gotten rid of him #stilllovekap
totally agree....you could do a hell of a lot worse than alex smith being your qb
I have a completely irrational like for Alex Smith. I don't love him, but I like him. Like, I like like him. A lot.
Alex Smith is athletic sam Bradford
He was up for grabs when Chip was here and I was saying back then that I thought Smith was the best available QB for that offense. At the time, I didn't realize that the offensive playbook would look like the original Tecmo Bowl, so I don't know if Alex Smith is good enough to overcome that, but I think that at least for that first and maybe even 2nd year, he'd have looked hof worthy.
What's the word on Tyreek's injury status?
I would take him over Joe Flacco, who makes some large multiple of Alex Smith's salary. He's obviously not a superstar but his floor is consistently high.
Every Chiefs fan is still slobbering over Mahomes though.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2017, 11:46:57 PM
What's the word on Tyreek's injury status?
100% healthy and ready to receive for 200 yards against the Eagles. He missed like one series with cramps against the Patriots.
Ok thanks
Wasn't sure what ailment he had when they showed him limping a bit
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 12, 2017, 10:55:03 PM
maybe but ill take an overachieving team that won in new england over an under achieving team that won in wash and as long as carson wentz stays a turnover machine cant throw the ball down the field or for touchdowns the eagles offense will have limited upside
I think the Chiefs will win, I just don't think this is some impossible task like I've been hearing some people say. There are no great teams in the NFL this season.
I don't hate Alex Smith, he's a solid NFL QB, but he has limitations with his arm strength and just overall doesn't have the elite tools that will ever allow him to put a team on his back in a playoff game and carry them to a win. He threw the ball down field for a change against NE, but usually he's a checkdown charlie. You can certainly do worse than him as a QB, just never going to be close to elite level.
i agree but if there's no great teams and the eagles aren't a good team then the eagles at one of the best teams should be catastrophic
in other words if the best teams aren't even great the average teams gotta be really bad
The Chiefs have a deeper roster, a better coach, and a guy who can run backwards faster than any Eagles CB can run forwards, plus they are playing at home with a few extra days of rest and preparation.
Obviously the Eagles have some percentage chance of winning, maybe 1 in 3, but no Eagles fan can feel great about this matchup. Only good thing is that the game has a house money feel to it because it seems so stacked against them. Unless there's a catastrophic injury or they blow the game in the final moments due to some mind-blowing Doug fargup, I'm going to feel fine after this one no matter how it goes.
The *only* thing the Eagles have going for them is the Chiefs might have just blown their load by beating the Pats.
I think this game with Pederson versus Andy, who know each other about as well as opposing head coaches can, will tell a lot about how Pederson's future NFL head coach career will go. Not so much who wins or even the final score but how well Pederson game plans and manages the game.
I don't see this game as much as a gimme for the Chiefs as has been suggested. Maybe the Birds don't win but they'll keep it close, and who knows maybe Smith comes back to Earth and throws a pick or the Birds get a KR from Sproles to even things up.
Quote from: Eagaholic on September 13, 2017, 05:21:28 AM
I think this game with Pederson versus Andy, who know each other about as well as opposing head coaches can, will tell a lot about how Pederson's future NFL head coach career will go. Not so much who wins or even the final score but how well Pederson game plans and manages the game.
I get what you're saying and it makes sense, but I'm gonna play devil's advocate here. Because Pederson is so familiar with Reid, I kinda feel like if there's 1 game on the schedule that Pederson should be overly prepared for, it's this one.
I'm not going to use 1 game against an AFC opponent as some sort of litmus test for Pederson. Main concern is how does he stack up against other HC in the division. And against the conference. Then against the AFC. Lastly against BB.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 13, 2017, 12:20:52 AM
Obviously the Eagles have some percentage chance of winning, maybe 1 in 3,
probably nitpicking but id say a little less...if this game is played in these exact circumstances ten times the eagles might win two
its not like college where you can have a 45 pt underdog but as far as nfl games go this is as much of a lock as you can get...a top 3 team in the league playing in arguably the number one home environment in the league on a pseudo bye week against an inferior opponent who just lost their second most important player on the team
welcome to the nfl rasual douglas
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 13, 2017, 09:06:23 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on September 13, 2017, 05:21:28 AM
I think this game with Pederson versus Andy, who know each other about as well as opposing head coaches can, will tell a lot about how Pederson's future NFL head coach career will go. Not so much who wins or even the final score but how well Pederson game plans and manages the game.
I get what you're saying and it makes sense, but I'm gonna play devil's advocate here. Because Pederson is so familiar with Reid, I kinda feel like if there's 1 game on the schedule that Pederson should be overly prepared for, it's this one.
I'm not going to use 1 game against an AFC opponent as some sort of litmus test for Pederson. Main concern is how does he stack up against other HC in the division. And against the conference. Then against the AFC. Lastly against BB.
totally agree with your first point...this should be an easy week pf preparation for him...well im sure nothing comes easy to that cranial lump but as easy as its gonna get for him....i find it hilarious that howie signed bausby....hes bringing in a guy for intel from the one team pederson should already know up and down...that is not a good look for the HC
once the game starts coaching is coaching doesnt matter who you are going against
also pederson is so bad that matching up with people shouldnt even be a consideration..how about start with just showing you belong anywhere near the nfl then we will worry about how he matches up with individual coaches
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2017, 09:08:29 AMagainst an inferior opponent who just lost their second most important player on the team
The Chiefs lost the first most important player on their team, so at least there is that.
I just think this game is there for reid and the chiefs to take. may not be a blowout but I don't see the eagles winning. plus with the giants (who I think the eagles will throttle) on the horizon etc. etc.
dont think this one is going to be close. alex smith will pick them apart and they have nobody that can hang with ty hill.
in the grand scheme of things this is a justifiable game to lose.
Eagles are going to win because I like the Eagles.
Chiefs are going to lose because I want the Eagles to win.
Quote from: hbionic on September 14, 2017, 01:21:34 PM
Eagles are going to win because I like the Eagles.
Chiefs are going to lose because I want the Eagles to win.
i found out a long time ago that this strategy doesnt really work
well, at least he tried.
Thanks Smeags. I'm trying to become more knowledgeable when it comes to football.
your story is inspiring. :yay
kareem hunt breaks his ankle and eagles win by 4.
SalPal clearly hung over on Fantasy Football Now on ESPN2 :-D
Darby
Gibson
Means
Johnson
Warmack
Vaeao
Inactives
Eagles - 24
Chiefs -20
Alshon has his coming out party today.
Andys 35
Dougies 24
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 11:34:00 AM
Eagles - 24
Chiefs -20
Alshon has his coming out party today.
you cant not
jeez travis kelce is good but i would punch him if i ever met him
Kielce is such a bitch. STFU and play
How was that not PI?
Never thought I'd see the day when Eagles calling passes to RBs would be a bad idea.
torrey smith td off the fingertips
otherwise getting points aint bad i guess
Can he not call so many farging designed screens
I'm not nearly as down on the Eagles as most. They beat the Steelers last year who were a SB favorite and went 3-0 so I give them even chances. 24-24.
You should be benched the rest of the game for that. You have him stopped short if you play the man.
Jaylen "Izell Jenkins" Watkins
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 17, 2017, 01:27:41 PM
You should be benched the rest of the game for that. You have him stopped short if you play the man.
thats why hes jaylon watkins
At least they got off the field?
Fletch and McLeod going off the field gimpy is less than ideal
shtein
Get used to hill streaking downfield with a 3 step beat on his man. If fatty has half a brain he's all over that all day.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 01:29:13 PM
Jaylen "Izell Jenkins" Watkins
I still have visions engrained in my head that won't go away of izell just being beat like a drum.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 01:31:30 PM
Fletch and McLeod going off the field gimpy is less than ideal
shtein
The new kicker may be playing in the defensive backfield before the day is over.
looks like theyre gonna be in this game
minor success!
Quote from: Don Ho on September 17, 2017, 01:35:05 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 01:29:13 PM
Jaylen "Izell Jenkins" Watkins
I still have visions engrained in my head that won't go away of izell just being beat like a drum.
Yeah, toast of the town
Christ. A zero one is throwing darts
Lol Chiefs drop 8 in coverage and still get the sack
Peters' one weakness: Bending.
Lousy OL play that series
And the running game is nonexistent
Jason Kelce should not be on this team. seumalo is bad too but Kelce is gross.
could wiz be worse than some of these interior ol
Yeah the LG/C spots are lousy
And Watkins is hurt now too
Jalyen Watkins out with injured ego
Jesus, easier to just ask who isn't injured
Kendricks playing like "go ahead, trade my ass!"
Where was htis guy the last few years? Did the 3-4 just crush his ego?
Kendricks is ballin
Play the man
Quote from: General_Failure on September 17, 2017, 01:42:31 PM
Peters' one weakness: Bending.
That and being a human flag machine. Nice to see Kelce also picking up where he left off last year with the penalties.
Smith looking like Agholor 2016
torrey smith doing what torrey smith does
Smith with hands of stone
All these injuries in the defensive backfield...better grab Chip's smoothie machine out the basement.
Catch the ball.
Seumalo so good.
isnt there an island seamalu can go smoke weed and roast a pig on
American Samoa
Off season needs:
OL
CB
RB
Let's reconvene in 5 years when this still hasn't been addressed
Where the hell is Brandon Graham today?
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 02:01:07 PM
isnt there an island seamalu can go smoke weed and roast a pig on
Lolol
Wisniewsk needs to play
Oh farg
is that sproles first fumble as an eagle? good timing
Jesus farging Christ almighty Sproles
Smith is spooked right now
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 02:12:20 PM
Jesus farging Christ almighty Sproles
It isn't easy trying to carry this team by yourself.
Sproles telling that dude on that sidelines "I was going to retire a Saint anyway"
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 02:12:17 PM
is that sproles first fumble as an eagle? good timing
That's a damn good question. I swear he has but I may be wrong.
To bad Ertz has my speed
lol holy shtein.
Yeah if Ertz were a little faster that turns into a TD
lol of course he missed it
Bye bye Elliot.
Next
farging piece of shtein scrub.
how the farg can they not find someone who can hit a 30 yard fg
pos howie
farging scumbag rookie
Stay in KC you farg
He didn't hit them in preseason either.
yea but those touchbacks man
They need to win special teams to win today. Last 2 minutes special teams caused 6 point swing.
Please stop talking about the Chiefs and last week. Stop already
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 17, 2017, 02:29:18 PM
They need to win special teams to win today. Last 2 minutes special teams caused 6 point swing.
sproles never fumbles. so he gets as much of a pass as you can give. elliot though should not be in the nfl.
Totally agree with Charles Davis in that Wentz needs to take off. Couple times he could've sped walked for a first down.
Holy shtein at Jernigan tossing dudes with one hand like a bouncer :-D
superstar ginger needs to be a farging drive together
thats the touchdown
That's a TD
Boom.
Told you today was Alshon's coming out party, TODD
There goes any momentum they had. Defense looked,like shtein that drive
corey graham was on the street 1 week into camp
How in the farg is Kelce not even covered on that third down? No one even looked at him
Clockwork.
Sproles looks a lot slower. shtein he's almost broke a few but the jets low on fuel
Maybe the best ST player in the draft besides kickers, punters, and return men.
I legit lol'd at that.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 17, 2017, 03:19:17 PM
Maybe the best ST player in the draft besides kickers, punters, and return men.
I legit lol'd at that.
Isn't every later round pick?
howie be like
Whatya know, The scrub made it
farg me
Start getting in Smith's grill already
heres your drive
i think 7 here gives them the win
lol of course
They're gonna lose a winnable game
Lazy ass drive all around
Stop calling screens on third down farging moron.
Also - seumalo is so so bad. Kelce should send him a thank you note for distracting people with his awfulness.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 03:33:01 PM
lol of course
They're gonna lose a winnable game
Spoilers: They gonna do that a bunch this year.
And we're still waiting for the signature win.
Pure awful
back to the weight room vinny
Didn't realize the Chiefs had Vick back there
I'd mock these clowns too
kelce is dumber than a stack of bricks but dude can ball
Quote from: Munson on September 17, 2017, 03:35:54 PM
Didn't realize the Chiefs had Vick back there
Embarrassing effort. They should have Smith on his back every pass play
I like to look at these as another "lose able game"
OL standing around watching him get sacked
Nice
Now another tipped pass and a drop
Goodnight
Wentz looks completely befuddled, then again the entire team looks dumbfounded right now
jeez wentz didnt even have a shot there
Maybe one day ginger will make passes like that.
can we all now agree Carson wentz is a pos zealot and a pos qb?
I'm very close to agreeing with you Igy. Wentz has a lot of faults and don't see any improvements.
Wentz wasn't the problem today and is going to be a good qb. That being said, this game goes in the pile with the ones from last year where it's winnable in the 4th qtr and he doesn't get the W. same trait McNabb had.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 03:47:09 PM
can we all now agree Carson wentz is a pos zealot and a pos qb?
No
You're alone in this ridiculous line of thinking
D also played like shtein down the stretch.
o-line really more to blame than anything. but at some point if they are going to be a special team wentz needs to be a special player and win a game. couldve done it here.
Defense played like it was supposed to play. Badly.
Birds are fatty's bitch
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 03:52:13 PM
o-line really more to blame than anything. but at some point if they are going to be a special team wentz needs to be a special player and win a game. couldve done it here.
^^
the defense was great today.....wtf
One of the reasons I hate being a Philly fan is because their fans are alive and breathing. Here's hoping all of you die screaming in a fire.
wentz hasnt had a chance the last few drives but they shouldve up more points 1H. point blank.
in the grand scheme of things they lost to a better team and are 1-1, which is all well and good.
and having shtein for a running attack ain't going to help Wentz's progress.
Aging midget, tiny wood, lard ass Blount. Not much to game plan for opposing defenses.
Quote from: Rome on September 17, 2017, 03:57:42 PM
One of the reasons I hate being a Philly fan is because their fans are alive and breathing. Here's hoping all of you die screaming in a fire.
Would be less painful than 40+ years of this shtein show.
My wife has the same visions of me in a ball of flames daily
if bennie logan is on the eagles they are 2-0 and theres no arguing that
PFF and their number one OL ranking can farg off
Six sacks and no running lanes today
Once again let's address the off season needs:
OL
CB
RB
Quote from: Don Ho on September 17, 2017, 03:58:12 PM
and having shtein for a running attack ain't going to help Wentz's progress.
Aging midget, tiny wood, lard ass Blount. Not much to game plan for opposing defenses.
Having Wentz be the leading rusher is fine, what's the problem?
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 04:02:00 PM
if bennie logan is on the eagles they are 2-0 and theres no arguing that
If they have Bennie Logan they can't afford Vinny Curry. Come on, man.
Now that was a beautiful pass.
Die die die everybody dies.
oh boy
IT's too bad Dougy boy ran that last drive in true Andy Reid fashion of "take your damn time even though you need two scores", or maybe they've have time for a couple of plays here.
go for 2 when you get this
so the eagles got a fluky tipped passed for 60 yards and recovered an onside kick and scored 0 points off them
what is more philly than that
Had a shot at it
Wiz at LG and Kelce fired into the sun asap plz
Tried using my crappy cellular connection to find alternative feeds. Spotty, but better than I expected.
So were the Eagles.
They still suck.
1-15.
Fire Doug and bring me the Barkley please.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 04:02:09 PM
PFF and their number one OL ranking can farg off
Six sacks and no running lanes today
offensive line today was fine....wentz had ridiculous time to throw on so many plays but his eyes refuse to go down field
you hate wentz more than anything
he is not devoid of criticism but the o line was not fine
watch the game again and not the 6 sack line
it was actually borderline absurd how much time he had to throw on tons of plays
It's incredible
Havas hates the best two Eagles QBs in the last 20 years.
Maybe they should stick with bum journeymen
there were a bunch of plays especially in 1H where he had time. but they couldnt run. seamalu was horrible. the drive where they were down 7 in 4q he didnt have a prayer.
i said earlier wentz needed to do more in 1H.
Actually with IGY on the o line...yeah he got sacked 6 times but when he wasn't getting sacked he had a tonnnn of time to throw.
But no he was not bad this game and this is mostly on the defense falling apart in the 4th quarter IMo
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 04:32:02 PM
It's incredible
Havas hates the best two Eagles QBs in the last 20 years.
Maybe they should stick with bum journeymen
the best eagle qb ever is worse than any other franchises best qb
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 04:33:02 PM
but they couldnt run. seamalu was horrible.
omg i was losing my farging mind watching him......he was a farging travesty
It's not on the defense. KC got the ball back at the eagles 30 after the INT. If you look at that play, the screen was busted and wentz was actually trying to throw the ball into the ground. It just hit Houston's head first. Whatever. Dumb play call, bad execution. Curry's whiff was a huge play. They would have had a 50+ yard FG attempt and instead scored a TD.
Then the OLine was awful the next drive and the game was over.
They can't run the ball because Seumalo and Kelce get pushed back two yards in the interior of the line every play. Unless you're running pitches all game, good luck. They need to put Wiz in immediately.
The idea that they need to run more is bogus too. Blount and Smallwood aren't doing anything behind this line right now. They run more and you're looking at 3rd and 8 all game.
they dont need to run more but its a stupid holdover media narrative from andy when he abandoned the run.
the average fan has a low football iq and thinks BALANCE is the key to winning, so therefore you must always keep it 50-50
The one thing that irritates me about Didinger is he likes trotting out the "they're X-X when running the ball x times" line. No shtein. You run more when you're ahead and you throw more when you're behind. Ergo, your record will generally be better when you run more.
Correlation =\= causation.
This also doesn't mean I wouldn't like to have a better run game. I would. Obviously. But they don't have the talent to run the ball consistently.
run pass blah blah blah they will never be truly special until the zealot starts stretching the field
they did and his name was lesean mccoy
charles kelly
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 17, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
The one thing that irritates me about Didinger is he likes trotting out the "they're X-X when running the ball x times" line.
They're 10-10 when they run the ball 10 times?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 04:32:02 PM
It's incredible
Havas hates the best two Eagles QBs in the last 20 years.
Maybe they should stick with bum journeymen
the best eagle qb ever is worse than any other franchises best qb
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 04:33:02 PM
but they couldnt run. seamalu was horrible.
omg i was losing my farging mind watching him......he was a farging travesty
Lol ok...hyperbolic Havas is back baby!
eagles facebook comments looking good
QuoteRaymond Jr. Lacombe Eagles are out of sink
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 04:32:02 PM
It's incredible
Havas hates the best two Eagles QBs in the last 20 years.
Maybe they should stick with bum journeymen
the best eagle qb ever is worse than any other franchises best qb
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 04:33:02 PM
but they couldnt run. seamalu was horrible.
omg i was losing my farging mind watching him......he was a farging travesty
Lol ok...hyperbolic Havas is back baby!
name me a franchise as old as the eagles whose best qb ever is worse than the bedwetter
hmmm
maybe the browns. otto graham but i guess he was successful for his era. matt stafford is probably the lions best qb and he has won 0 playoff games.
always good to be in company with the lions and browns
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 04:30:29 PM
watch the game again and not the 6 sack line
it was actually borderline absurd how much time he had to throw on tons of plays
Please please please buy a tank of helium and a balloon.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 05:04:54 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 04:32:02 PM
It's incredible
Havas hates the best two Eagles QBs in the last 20 years.
Maybe they should stick with bum journeymen
the best eagle qb ever is worse than any other franchises best qb
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 04:33:02 PM
but they couldnt run. seamalu was horrible.
omg i was losing my farging mind watching him......he was a farging travesty
Lol ok...hyperbolic Havas is back baby!
name me a franchise as old as the eagles whose best qb ever is worse than the bedwetter
Oh now we got qualifiers!
It has to be as old or older eh?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 17, 2017, 04:53:26 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 17, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
The one thing that irritates me about Didinger is he likes trotting out the "they're X-X when running the ball x times" line.
They're 10-10 when they run the ball 10 times?
That sounds right
Those are untenable numbers.
I can point at individual players who had poor games, but as a full unit, almost every unit played well today except RB I guess. Wentz played as well as one can play against their defense in KC. Tough place to play. I've seen that defense in Arrowhead eat up Brady, Wentz held up really well. I'd love to have a laundry list of players to rip to shreds, but there really isn't any. Seumalo, Torrey Smith for the drops is about it. Nothing really egregious today from the Eagles that I find infuriating otherwise. This defensive line is monstrous, they are going to cause a lot of issues for QBs and offensive lines all season long. They just crushed Smith today.
There's about 3 individual plays that really stand out.
Smith's deep drop.
Hunt 50+ yard run.
Curry missed sack.
I feel like this is the norm for 7-9 -9-7 teams.
theyre also know through 2 of their toughest 5 games of the year
giants - farce
chargers - winnable but setting up for a classic philly sports loss
cardinals - crap
panthers - not good, just lost olson
wash - win
49ers - win
cowboys - its ON
bears - win
i smell maybe 9 wins!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 17, 2017, 06:57:40 PM
There's about 3 individual plays that really stand out.
Smith's deep drop.
Hunt 50+ yard run.
Curry missed sack.
I feel like this is the norm for 7-9 -9-7 teams.
I feel like the horrendous qb interception on his own 20 that lost them the game should crack the top 3
if cousins threw that pick it would be the lines fault
instead it's god's fault
slurp AO1 slurp slurp
not gonna make the tailgate next week gotta go to church first
Why isn't this second year farmboy Tom Brady?
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on September 17, 2017, 05:56:12 PM
I can point at individual players who had poor games, but as a full unit, almost every unit played well today except RB I guess. Wentz played as well as one can play against their defense in KC. Tough place to play. I've seen that defense in Arrowhead eat up Brady, Wentz held up really well. I'd love to have a laundry list of players to rip to shreds, but there really isn't any. Seumalo, Torrey Smith for the drops is about it. Nothing really egregious today from the Eagles that I find infuriating otherwise. This defensive line is monstrous, they are going to cause a lot of issues for QBs and offensive lines all season long. They just crushed Smith today.
Nice summary. They played better than I thought they would despite playing one of the best teams in the league who had extra time to prepare and was playing their home opener
Blount was a horrible signing. The run/pass ratio doesn't bother me, that they only have one running back that is remotely useful does. No lie I'd make a call to the Saints and see what they want for AP. They'd probably trade him for peanuts at this point. He's not happy in a crowded backfield and I've seen enough of him this season to know he still has it. Release Blount.
What blows is they didn't address RB this past draft which was deep. They could have traded the Pomphrey pick and their second to move up for Dalvin Cook. They're probably not using their 1st next season unless Barkley drops so now they have to trade up from the 4th to address a need.
if youre pissed about the eagles remember:
-packers getting embarrassed
-cowboys embarrassed
-giants embarrassed last week
-seahawks barely beat horrible 49ers at home
the eagles look about as good as any team in the nfc, other than atlanta.
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 10:27:44 PM
if youre pissed about the eagles remember:
-packers getting embarrassed
-cowboys embarrassed
-giants embarrassed last week
-seahawks barely beat horrible 49ers at home
the eagles look about as good as any team in the nfc, other than atlanta.
sweet...the eagles suck as much as other teams....low bar
The Bucs could be legit. Not liking the sample size of one game against the pile of garbage that is the Bears, though.
Something seems fundamentally wrong about the Seahawks' game but they've run into this in previous years and figured out how to fix it halfway through the season. Until we see otherwise, you have to assume them and the Packers will find a way into the playoffs and not be an easy out.
Panthers quietly doing their 2015 thing of piling up unimpressive Ws, which are still Ws.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 10:30:46 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 10:27:44 PM
if youre pissed about the eagles remember:
-packers getting embarrassed
-cowboys embarrassed
-giants embarrassed last week
-seahawks barely beat horrible 49ers at home
the eagles look about as good as any team in the nfc, other than atlanta.
sweet...the eagles suck as much as other teams....low bar
somebody has to go 10-6 and lose to the packers in the playoffs
im just fed up and sick and tired of this bullshtein.....people are happy they didnt get blown out.....they traded a million assets to get a farging turnover machine at qb....and people are happy he might be better than rodney peete
They need to start winning those games. TBD whether the ability to do that is in Wentz's DNA. He hasn't produced at end of games (yet). Calling him a trash qb and/or comparing him to Peete is silly though. His talent is obvious. I'm happy he's on the team even if he's not close to there yet.
yea they shouldve kept sam bradford or nick foles
wentz is a good qb. might be great. might not. we'll see.
IGY's really mad that he can't prove that Wentz voted Trump, but wants to say "You know it, I know it, everybody knows it."
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 10:49:49 PM
im just fed up and sick and tired of this bullshtein.....people are happy they didnt get blown out.....they traded a million assets to get a farging turnover machine at qb....and people are happy he might be better than rodney peete
You'd rather have Rodney Peete at QB than Wentz.
The dude isn't an all pro nor is he without flaws but he's shown enough to believe he will develop. Anyone who watches NFL (not you since you don't watch) can see how pitiful the QB play is in this league. How many teams would kill for Wentz?
He's got work to do. He does some dumb shtein but he's a second year player from farging North Dakota.
But hey - if you'd rather cycle through shtein like Brian Hoyer, Brock Osweiler or old washed up carcasses like Carson Palmer go right ahead and wish for that.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 17, 2017, 11:05:09 PM
IGY's really mad that he can't prove that Wentz voted Trump
this is even a question?
but i dont care that much....its the most obvious thing ever
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 11:15:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 10:49:49 PM
im just fed up and sick and tired of this bullshtein.....people are happy they didnt get blown out.....they traded a million assets to get a farging turnover machine at qb....and people are happy he might be better than rodney peete
The dude isn't an all pro
lol at an all pro....hes not even good at this point
you dont get it
carson wentz didnt throw for 500 yards and 4 touchdowns so he isnt going to be better than aaron rodgers therefore he SUCKS and its over its all over theres no point bring back ty detmer
I was with you until you went with the wrong Detmer.
Yes Ty is dead on this board
Koy is the one!
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 11:18:08 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 11:15:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 10:49:49 PM
im just fed up and sick and tired of this bullshtein.....people are happy they didnt get blown out.....they traded a million assets to get a farging turnover machine at qb....and people are happy he might be better than rodney peete
The dude isn't an all pro
lol at an all pro....hes not even good at this point
You're blind.
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 11:18:33 PM
you dont get it
carson wentz didnt throw for 500 yards and 4 touchdowns so he isnt going to be better than aaron rodgers therefore he SUCKS and its over its all over theres no point bring back ty detmer
he literally has way more turnovers than touchdowns in his career
but you were the biggest chip kelly guy ever so this doesnt surprise me
Ok General Manager Havas
Who is YOUR QB for this team?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2017, 11:24:44 PM
Ok General Manager Havas
Who is YOUR QB for this team?
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Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 11:18:33 PM
you dont get it
carson wentz didnt throw for 500 yards and 4 touchdowns so he isnt going to be better than aaron rodgers therefore he SUCKS and its over its all over theres no point bring back ty detmer
he literally has way more turnovers than touchdowns in his career
but you were the biggest chip kelly guy ever so this doesnt surprise me
lol you are making things up
im not saying cut him or that he wont be great one day but jesus let me say this again....HE HAS MORE TURNOVERS THAN TOUCHDOWNS....that is farging atrocious
Young quarterback does dumb shtein? I'm gonna fight him.
I don't know about you guys but I'd rather have Kirk Cousins or Alex Smith
Quote from: General_Failure on September 17, 2017, 11:28:36 PM
Young quarterback does dumb shtein? I'm gonna fight him.
he will be 25 in a couple months
mariotta is two years younger and has almost 30 more td's than int's
rodgers had 28 tds and 19 turnovers his 1st year as a starter. rodgers is also the best qb, possibly ever.
matt ryan had 16 tds and 13 turnovers his 1st year as a starter. ryan went to penn charter.
young qbs are turnovers machines. if hes doing this shtein in november, lets chat.
wentz is NEGATIVE in td to turnover ratio and has never thrown for 3 td's in the pass happiest league ever
you just listed two guys who were in the positive....rogers a plus 9
are you trying to argue against yourself?
also why are you comparing matt ryans rookie year with carson wentz second year
ryan was +28 last year...meaning it gets better. they get better. they improve. if wentz isn't doing that in year 2, year 3 THEN commence freak out.
Nick Foles had a 7 td game, that's way more than three. They should put him out there.
ryan fitzpatrick was never in the negative until he was 34
carson wentz whole career is in the negative
carson wentz sucks
its settled
everyone stop watching football and go home
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 11:18:33 PM
you dont get it
carson wentz didnt throw for 500 yards and 4 touchdowns so he isnt going to be better than aaron rodgers therefore he SUCKS and its over its all over theres no point bring back ty detmer
he literally has way more turnovers than touchdowns in his career
but you were the biggest chip kelly guy ever so this doesnt surprise me
this is the dumbest argument ever, but just to throw it out there:
Carson Wentz, 2016: 16 passing TD, 14 INT, 3 fumbles lost. Net -1 (unless you count rushing TDs; then he is +1).
2017: 4 passing TD, 2 INT, 1 fumble lost. Net +1
So he /literally/ does not have "way more" turnovers. He has the exact same number. Unless you count rushing TDs, then he is +2 through 18 games of his career.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 17, 2017, 11:53:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2017, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2017, 11:18:33 PM
you dont get it
carson wentz didnt throw for 500 yards and 4 touchdowns so he isnt going to be better than aaron rodgers therefore he SUCKS and its over its all over theres no point bring back ty detmer
he literally has way more turnovers than touchdowns in his career
but you were the biggest chip kelly guy ever so this doesnt surprise me
this is the dumbest argument ever, but just to throw it out there:
Carson Wentz, 2016: 16 passing TD, 14 INT, 3 fumbles lost. Net -1 (unless you count rushing TDs; then he is +1).
2017: 4 passing TD, 2 INT, 1 fumble lost. Net +1
So he /literally/ does not have "way more" turnovers. He has the exact same number. Unless you count rushing TDs, then he is +2 through 18 games of his career.
this is the low bar im talking about
we should be better than this but when your franchise is a worldwide running joke embarrassment this is what it comes to
think about what you are doing you are arguing that your franchise qb taken second overall is +2 in his career
my god
Oh, you're counting all those touchdowns that he shouldn't have had? Amateur.
Way more turnovers than TDs
Stats shown
Low bar!
No...it's people realizing the guy is going to have a learning curve.
Would you rather not have him?
His AO1 schtick bothers you more than anything right?
i mean no one hates MA more than me but thats far less concerning than the fact that hes cant throw down field or take care of the ball
Just did a re-watch. Seumalo was even worse upon second viewing. He was beat by technique, out muscled, and couldn't close gaps. I'm not sure if he doesn't know his assignments or he's just out of sync with the rest of the offense but he needs to be replaced. Throw Wis out there and see what he has because Seumalo is flat out bad. Rest of the line did their jobs for the most part. You're not shutting a Justin Houston down and KC's D is legit. Wentz had a nice pocket to throw from. He was really good in the first half, but the Chiefs made adjustments in the second. They backed off knowing the Eagles weren't running the ball. It's nice having actual talent at receiver. For having a lot of injuries the DBs played a nice game. Kendricks continues to play well.