this team stinks
Be more specific.
Cousins is going to light them up same as last season. Crowd is going to boo the farg outta the birds.
yeah cousins is a terrible match up for them
good news is they cant possibly be worse against the run than they were in game 1....that was as embarrassing a defensive performance as ive ever seen
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 07, 2016, 08:44:53 AM
yeah cousins is a terrible match up for them
this number goes right to the heart of the above point....cuzzo is crazy accurate on quick drops planting a foot and getting the ball out
QuoteOne reflection of PHI's CB play: QBs have a 121.3 rating when throwing the ball in less than 2.5 seconds.
What's that stat for other teams? I doubt many defenses do well against a 2.5 second release.
drew brees leads the league at 118
if you have good corners youd prefer the ball to be released quickly because its less space available for a wr to get open....the eagles do not have good corners
to be fair on the other hand its a higher % throw in terms of distance....except that it requires much better accuracy because the window is going to be smaller as again theres less time for seperation...thats why i would imagine a super accurate guy like brees always leads the league in this area and cuzzos strength lies in this area as well which is bad news for the birds
At 6-5-1 I'd say five teams did well and one team was even.
I am not upset that I sold my ticket for this game.
Scalping your taterskins tickets? Shameful.
kemosabe has errands to run.
I'm off next week so I fully intend to watch this abortion drink on Sunday.
I always go regardless of the state of the shteinpile that's on the field. The pregame festivities often take precedence anyway.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 08, 2016, 07:47:10 AM
I always go regardless of the state of the shteinpile that's on the field. The pregame festivities often take precedence anyway.
I agree to a point. i may actually end up at this game. see what i get done Saturday.
I might be there if my freebies come through
I checked stubhub for the hell of it and they are giving this game away.
Thanks Obama.
nobody wants to go to this game
im selling on stubhub but if anyone wants face hit me up
Quote from: Rome on December 08, 2016, 09:45:39 AM
I checked stubhub for the hell of it and they are giving this game away.
Thanks Obama.
:-D
So evidently the Dougie Fresh has lost the room because he questioned the team's effort. How dare he suggest they quit?!?
whatever gets him out the door faster.
I can't believe that so many players that don't belong in the NFL have lost faith in their doofus coach.
football players have feelings too.
Quote from: Rome on December 09, 2016, 09:20:28 AM
So evidently the Dougie Fresh has lost the room because he questioned the team's effort.
this is the best news of the entire season...the irony is just too delicious in that the reason howie hired doug was because he was the ultimate nice guy players coach aka the opposite of chip
Inept head coach + gutless/talentless players = recipe for success!
#mathbitches
don't worry, jeffy boy is hands on now.
(hi SD)
Quote from: Rome on December 09, 2016, 10:41:55 AM
Inept head coach + gutless/talentless players = recipe for success!
#mathbitches
Lol, well put.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20161211_Eagles__Pederson_digs_a_deep_hole.html
farg these Hoyda as players. I have no problem with pederson calling them out. Don't our bosses call us out?
farg these Hoydas.
I gave my tickets away for tomorrow for free. I'm not even sure I like football anymore.
my money is on you not liking football that is a two hour drive away from you....it takes a special person to make games like that
or do you actually miss eagle games on tv too...that's when you truly hate them
I've got shtein to do today so I'm missing the game. I don't miss many but I'm so over this team right now, I really don't give a shtein what happens.
I'm sure there will be turnovers, penalties, missed assignments, dropped passes and moronic coaching decisions aplenty, though, so enjoy all that "fun".
oh poor you
Not really but thanks for the love just the same.
Brandon Brooks happens to get sick again on a Gameday and will be out
Hoyda
My wife is out of town. The game is on network here, so I can watch.
I've taken the chance to explain to my kids that the term taterskin is racist and a bad word they can't use.
I'm glad that 4th down attempt wasn't tried. Even I know Carson's audible signals. They need to smarten up with that.
They have a lead! They can do this!
Someone should have told the taterskins DB there that he didn't have to interfere with Agholor, just let Nelson drop it.
Well that's twice Ertz has chosen contact today. That's a nice change.
That was some Favrean bullshtein there. The good kind, not the big dumb interception kind he usually goes for.
Drag that foot you dummy!
Ugh.
"We" suck.. ::)
Okay, they're back to normal. Whew.
So that's what Duluth Trading is spending all the money they get off exorbitant pricing: NFL commercials before Christmas.
Looked like the ground assisted on that INT, but whatever.
Whoa a PG sighting! The eye roll is baaaack baby!
Wentz with a putrid throw. Need a drink already
What time is the Flyers game on?
*counting the minutes*
No doubt they get a score here
The D can't get pressure, can't tackle without gang help, can't prevent 20 yard passes...
They can kinda defend the run sometimes.
lol...he missed
(http://youdidwhatwithyourweiner.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/dsc_0041A.jpg)
They'll never win a shootout, but they might just have a chance in a shteinshow.
I'd like it if "we" ran the ball more often.
Agholor made a catch
Lord baby Jesus
Think maybe the taterskins know the audibles too?
Agholor caught a tough one! This game has everything you could hope for.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 11, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
Think maybe the taterskins know the audibles too?
They've only had two all season, so probably.
Why do I not remember being THIS frustrated with this team when Reid/McNabb first started?
OMG, a first down by running on 3rd and short. They didn't pass!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 11, 2016, 01:39:42 PM
Why do I not remember being THIS frustrated with this team when Reid/McNabb first started?
You were younger and less cynical.
Who the farg is Zach Ertz and where has he been all season?
Ertz has his toughness questioned last week so he's awake this week
Wentz should've had a roughing call too Murphy clipped his legs low
Our unimpressive kicker is better than their kick off specialist.
Jason Peters, the most frustrating great tackle they've ever had.
Peters is the false start King
You ain't facing Reggie White bro - stay still
An actual sack! What a game.
Why can't the Eagles tackle anyone one on one?
Quote from: Diomedes on December 11, 2016, 01:53:13 PM
Why can't the Eagles tackle anyone one on one?
They are not very good at football.
Time for a bad cousins pass
He hasn't had a bad pick in awhile
Oh.
His right foot wasn't down!
Doug the dumbfarg doesn't challenge that but he will challenge a two yard farging completion
And of course more lousy tackling means a TD
And here comes the insurmountable lead.
Reed was in bounds. Stop kidding yourself.
Wentz makes a sandwich in the pocket and no one can break open
But nice play to Burton after. Keep working the TEs
I'm afraid they're gonna say Burton lost the ball after this commercial.
My god
Awful
That was the best chance for a TD they'll have for the rest of the season.
Don't try to juke when you're already a step ahead, just keep farging running.
They successfully audibled! And got a TD! Great game, or greatest game ever?
Omg a TD
Noooooo farging flags! farg!
This team is playing nice and calm, like there's no pressure on them.
Horseshtein call
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 11, 2016, 02:36:41 PM
Horseshtein call
Don't put your hand on the numbers on his back, it isn't hard.
That isn't a block in the back he's grazing his jersey
Smallwood hurt his knee and is done
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 11, 2016, 02:39:04 PM
That isn't a block in the back he's grazing his jersey
He sat on him, Let it go.
But I don't wanna!
That was gonna happen sooner or later.
LOLodis McKelvin... nice angle on that terribly thrown ball, nice tackle too
Leodis Izell Jenkins
Burnt to a crisp
Longsnapper with a wrist injury? Good thing this isn't a close game that'll come down to a FG or PAT.
I saw the NFL feature on him this morning and about his consecutive games streak too and thought about how durable he's been
Let Agholor deep snap
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 11, 2016, 02:52:53 PM
Let Agholor deep snap
The ball does come out of his hands in a hurry...
Go for it farg it
Tobin in at RT
What a bad throw that hit Turner directly in his hands. Cut Wentz.
Womp womp.
Take the sticky gloves off, Celek
And Ziggy Hood you're a real tough guy by pile driving a punter
Quote from: General_Failure on December 11, 2016, 02:50:07 PM
Longsnapper with a wrist injury? Good thing this isn't a close game that'll come down to a FG or PAT.
No problem at all.
Yeah, Dorenbos ain't coming back for this one.
That's a catch
Left foot out of bounds
Oh bullshtein he was out of bounds
Kneel your ass down Agholor
Corner and wide receiver such a youuuuge need
Lmaoooo now Celek is hurt
Back up snapper is out
Nice pick 6
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 11, 2016, 03:18:18 PM
Lmaoooo now Celek is hurt
Back up snapper is out
Sproles is going to be the longsnapper before this game is over.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 11, 2016, 01:55:48 PM
Time for a bad cousins pass
He hasn't had a bad pick in awhile
Izell McKelvin!
And Norman got to Matthews a tad early on the two pointer
Ooooooh!! Fiiiiiight
Sproles got smoooooked
Quote from: General_Failure on December 11, 2016, 03:22:35 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 11, 2016, 03:18:18 PM
Lmaoooo now Celek is hurt
Back up snapper is out
Sproles is going to be the longsnapper before this game is over.
Whelp, who's the 4th string longsnapper?
I farging hate Washington
farging scumbag cheap shot. Suspend his ass.
Throw it away, fool.
Washington player who cheap shotted Sproles should have been kicked out of the game
They have one RB left today
And during the scrum after the Sproles hit I saw Barwin out there. First time I've seen or heard his name in a month
Quote from: SD on December 11, 2016, 03:31:54 PM
farging scumbag cheap shot. Suspend his ass.
It was cheap.
If someone could break his leg...
Oh yeah, Kendricks warming up to snap. This is his time to shine!
Jesus Christ, Doug
You know you have no snapper. But let the clock wind down anyways. Idiot.
Shout out to him and his team leading the NFL with 45 presnap penalties
Whew.
Trey Burton baby!!
Merrill has never been this excited about a FG outside of the last minute of a game.
Is there anything Burton can't do?! He's not just the MVP for the Eagles; he should win it for the league.
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 11, 2016, 03:47:32 PM
Is there anything Burton can't do?! He's not just the MVP for the Eagles; he should win it for the league.
That snap was so high he could sub for Wentz and they wouldn't miss a beat.
Mommy what's a catch?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 11, 2016, 03:53:56 PM
Mommy what's a catch?
She don't know, she's an Eagles fan too.
Motherfarger!!
Good job you corksuckers
Not sure if a WAS TD there is bad.
Good thing they have all their timeou...oh
They didn't get that second time out in before the play clock expired and the refs blew it.
I'm tired of hearing how the bad refs aren't affecting the game.
Now the Eagles don't need another kick.
Yeah that about sums it up.
Why do I always get my hopes up? I was sure the Eagles were going to score a TD...terrible pocket awareness.
I was expecting another INT in the endzone, but that works too.
Hated the last timeout call, that told Washington a sack wins the game.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 11, 2016, 04:03:49 PM
They didn't get that second time out in before the play clock expired and the refs blew it.
I'm tired of hearing how the bad refs aren't affecting the game.
Mds will be along soon to tell you you're wrong
Nothing really to say about this game other than Carson Wentz is a special special player.
"I wanted to get him. I was going to get him. But I don't have a backup right now," offensive tackle Jason Peters said. "That was a cheap shot."
Peters likes fighting the Washingtons
big ups to lane johnson once again
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 11, 2016, 05:53:22 PM
"I wanted to get him. I was going to get him. But I don't have a backup right now," offensive tackle Jason Peters said. "That was a cheap shot."
Peters likes fighting the Washingtons
hold me back! hold me back!
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on December 11, 2016, 05:44:05 PM
Nothing really to say about this game other than Carson Wentz is a special special player.
you can see how much better he was just with vanilla ass jordan matthews back in the line up....imagine real weapons
Quote"Coming back home?" the guard asked.
"We'll see," Jackson said.
http://www.csnphilly.com/the700level/will-desean-jackson-return-eagles-linc-security-guard-asks-desean
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 11, 2016, 06:20:04 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 11, 2016, 05:53:22 PM
"I wanted to get him. I was going to get him. But I don't have a backup right now," offensive tackle Jason Peters said. "That was a cheap shot."
Peters likes fighting the Washingtons
hold me back! hold me back!
After his manicure.
In honor of Dio, errands today. My God, picked up the best farging pastries in Hawaii this morning at Kam Bakery.
I did listen to WIP post game show while driving. Heard Dougie say this was Wentz's best game so far. I have no idea as I saw squat. I did see a pick in the red zone and of course the crucial fumble that ended it. So was he that sharp today? This was better than the Chicago and Pittsburgh games?
The RZ pick was unbelievably bad but otherwise Wentz was sharp today. Matthews being back was huge, he actually had a WR worth a damn. Burton continues to impress. The O Line was a train wreck. Wentz was hit hard every other play. They were down to their 4th string RT.
I try to remind myself that going into the year the point of the season was to see whether Wentz could play and despite bumps and blemishes he's certainly provided hope going forward but it's still alarming to see how many holes this team has.
Chip Kelly has to be the most damaging coach the Eagles have ever had
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 11, 2016, 08:19:30 PM
I try to remind myself that going into the year the point of the season was to see whether Wentz could play and despite bumps and blemishes he's certainly provided hope going forward but it's still alarming to see how many holes this team has.
we were discussing at tailgate that it's three to five years to fill all those holes and that's if you hit on all your picks
it's scary what they need
an entire OL other than roid Johnson
both corners
RB
three WR
this year at one you take your WR and then you get a back somewhere else as this is an all time great rb draft then in 2018 you start to work on the line
You gotta figure that within 2-3 years they'll need both safeties again, too.
mcleod will be 28 and jenkins will be 30
they should both be as effective as they are now, though not sure if theyll be able to afford both
Quote from: MDS on December 11, 2016, 09:26:46 PM
they should both be as effective as they are now, though not sure if theyll be able to afford both
The cap hits escalate rapidly. Best case scenario, they will have expensive new contracts you have to account for while you're trying to piece together the rest of this team. More likely, at least one of them will be released.
Also another TE. Celek and Ertz might both be gone after 2017. Burton looks promising, but the Eagles have had a lot of TEs who've never gone from potential starter to potential all-pro.
the cap is going up 10 mil, and thats just this year
still i wont fight that...within 2-3 years theyll have to start gearing up for a monster wentz deal and a pretty big hicks deal. the veterans safeties wont be of the same priority.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 11, 2016, 08:39:33 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 11, 2016, 08:19:30 PM
I try to remind myself that going into the year the point of the season was to see whether Wentz could play and despite bumps and blemishes he's certainly provided hope going forward but it's still alarming to see how many holes this team has.
we were discussing at tailgate that it's three to five years to fill all those holes and that's if you hit on all your picks
it's scary what they need
an entire OL other than roid Johnson
both corners
RB
three WR
this year at one you take your WR and then you get a back somewhere else as this is an all time great rb draft then in 2018 you start to work on the line
You don't need to fill all your needs to compete for a Superbowl. The Cowboys are contenders lacking an entire defense, and Seattle is a contender with one of the worst offensive lines in football.
The Eagles biggest need is a coach. If they had a real coach, they could contend just adding a couple WRs and a couple CBs and leaving the rest of the roster exactly as it is.
Eagles are close and one half step away from Seattle and Dallas!
In the NFL if you build right you are never far away from being a playoff team. There are no Chicago Cubs or Golden State Warriors in the NFL. If you are 3-5 years away in the NFL, then you have a front office that doesn't know what they are doing. And that's entirely possible with Howie, although I hope Joe Douglas helps. If he doesn't, then they will be 3+ years away, but if they have a good solid offseason and address WR and CB legitimately, they can compete with any team in the NFC.
Their defense is disgusting. They scored 22 points today. Jim Johnson used to say that if the defense holds the other team under 17, most days you'll win and he was right about that. When was the last time the defense won them a game - Atlanta? Since then they're giving up 28-30 a game. They're pathetic. Yes, the offense is pretty bad too but the defense is mostly healthy and is getting torched week after week. That's the biggest disappointment by far and it's not going to get better now that Howie has dumped a truckload of cash on guys that simply aren't performing.
what's alarming about the defense is the supposed best parts of it that we shouldn't worry about might not be good
I think Jim Schwartz was overrated as a coach. For a guy who was touted as an elite coordinator, he sure can't keep a job. He's had individual seasons where his defense have been up at the top in sack numbers, but he's also had seasons where his defenses just weren't all that special. Jim Johnson he is not.
CB is a major issue talent-wise, but if you can't get better defensive efforts when you have Cox, Logan, Graham, Hicks, McLeod, and Jenkins then something is seriously wrong. I remember last season everyone called Kiko Alonso an overrated stiff, as they did with DeMarco Murray. Turns out they just had clueless coaches who had no idea how to use either of them. Funny what a change of scenery can do. I'm wondering about Schwartz. If they add a couple quality corners in the offseason and the defense still struggles next season, then it might be time to put this Schwartz experiment to bed sooner than later.
who were the people who called murray a stiff ? pretty sure everyone that ever watched an nfl game before in their lives, knew it a was a bad fit.
Alonso playing decently (although he's accumulating injuries) is way more surprising than Murray's season.
Social media and the airwaves were littered with fans and media alike trashing Murray and Alonso. If I had a dime for every time I saw a media person tweet out "Murray's touches need to be reduced, Ryan Mathews is the best RB on this roster" I'd be a rich man.
And before you tell me they are idiots, I'll already agree with you. They are. But these are the opinions that are out there forming these narratives and perceptions.
Zach Ertz is the new favorite to pile on because he's not "Philly tough" but cut him tomorrow and he goes to a team like New Orleans and is putting up 900 yard seasons with 8 TDs and the fans will bitch and whine that the Eagles let him go. It's just how it is. Fans are always overly critical of their own players and analyze in a vacuum.
meh - I hear what you are saying, but ultimately, who cares about Alonzo. I mean really, his trade along with Maxwell moved the eagles to the #8 spot which made it possible to eventually move up to #2.
murray, I still think the vast majority of fans knew it was an issue of running style not fitting the scheme. the media is another story.
I really don't care about Alonso myself. That trade allowed them to get that pick like you said, which ended with them getting one of the most talented young QBs in the NFL.
I'm just trying to back up my point that the talent on this team isn't as bad as people think it is. Every year fans are overly critical of their own players. When you micro-analyze for 16 games a season, those flaws become more apparent than watching other teams us fans aren't used to watching under a microscope every single week. On the offensive side of the ball, the talent sucks, but this defense has plenty of talent sans CB, and any legitimate defensive coordinator should be able to do better with it than the Eagles currently are. And if you disagree, that's fine, but I'm saying if people think this defense sucks and want to blow the whole thing up, I think you'll find when a lot of these players go elsewhere they will find success, and then it would be realized it wasn't the talent after all, it was the coaching. Like with Alonso and Murray.
I agree with Mr. Patel. A few tweaks here and there and they're right there in the mix with other tier 2 teams. Heck if Lane isn't a moron the O line even with all the injuries looks vastly different. You add a few playmakers on O and a CB and this team could easily make the playoffs next season.
they could have made the playoffs this year but anyone except Cleveland can make the playoffs any year....the eagles tho didn't trade all that for wentz to make the playoffs they did it to win a title and they are miles away from that
patel = FF ?
No
I definitely agree. Hypothetically, and I don't think I'm throwing out any outrageous scenarios here... say the Eagles sign Alshon Jeffery in free agency, sign a solid CB, and draft Corey Davis in the first round. Then I don't know... take another RB in the draft in the mid rounds to beef up the depth there. If you are going to tell me an Eagles team with those additions couldn't compete for a playoff spot, then something is seriously wrong. The Eagles play in a conference where the Detroit Lions are the #2 seed. This isn't the stiffest of competition they are trying to catch.
And lol at this team being close to contending.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2016, 04:49:16 PM
they could have made the playoffs this year but anyone except Cleveland can make the playoffs any year....the eagles tho didn't trade all that for wentz to make the playoffs they did it to win a title and they are miles away from that
Dallas was 4-12 last season, few tweaks and they're a SB contender. Yeah Romo was injured blah blah blah. Raiders were 7-9, they added a few FA's and they're SB contenders. They didn't trade for Wentz with the thought he'd lead them to a SB within the first two seasons. Step 1 is make the playoffs which they can achieve next season.
Depends on how you define "close" but they aren't all that far away. The two teams that made the NFC title game last season aren't even going to make the playoffs this season, and the Broncos may very well not either. There is tremendous turnaround every year in the NFL, and there are no dynasties at the moment. If Howie and co. have a really strong offseason, it's not a stretch to say they could be a top 3 seed in the NFC next season, and in today's NFL, that makes you a Superbowl contender.
haven't the eagles signed enough FA cb's over the last few years ?
Quote from: smeags on December 12, 2016, 04:56:52 PM
haven't the eagles signed enough FA cb's over the last few years ?
They signed the wrong ones. The Giants showed the Eagles how to do it by getting Janoris Jenkins. If the Eagles want immediate help at CB, they better sign one, because I don't see even a first round rookie CB coming in here and revamping the secondary overnight. There is a steep learning curve for rookie CBs.
Quote from: Rome on December 12, 2016, 04:52:44 PM
And lol at this team being close to contending.
When they were playing well they should have beaten Dallas coming off a bye who was at home on prime time. Then they almost beat the Giants at home coming off a bye the following week. Like I said before, they're not mentally tough enough to come back from the Dallas and Giants loss. They clearly took a step back after those losses. That falls on the coaching staff. But you add Lane back into the mix, sign/draft a CB, and add a few weapons on O, and I see no reason they can't make the playoffs as a tier two team.
an, a tier two team !! omg yes !!
Quote from: smeags on December 12, 2016, 04:56:52 PM
haven't the eagles signed enough FA cb's over the last few years ?
Mcleod's been so so. That money would have been better allotted signing a CB.
Except for Sproles, any recent contract would have been better spent on a CB.
i think its safe to say that we all understand what the eagles need, but who isn't worried about the guy that is making the decisions on personnel ?
they are at least three years away from being a sb contender and thats if they dont regress in the next couple years which is possible with the age on the offensive line...thats of course also depenent ont hem hitting on their draft picks and free agents which is far from a guarantee
i dont consider that to be all that close but maybe some do
Tier two teams win Superbowls, the Giants did it twice in the last decade.
I'm super high on Wentz, and I don't post here enough to know the general feeling on the forum about him, but I think he's going to be a top 5 QB in the league for a decade. If I'm right about that, the Eagles will be in a great spot for a long time. Getting the QB taken care of is the hardest thing to do in sports, but once you do, the hard part is taken care of.
To address smeags' question though, that is the biggest concern. Do they have the guys in place to fix the needs appropriately? Definitely a concern. You gotta hope Joe Douglas is really good at his job and brings something to the table. Also, stop allowing your coaches to dictate moves. It didn't work with Chip Kelly, and it didn't work when they decided to go out and sign all of Schwartz's zesty Buffalo Bills players.
wentz seems like the real deal and i have confidence in him being a franchise qb and everything that comes with that...i just dont think those glory days are right around the corner...we are talking 3-5 years down the road before they can become an elite team
You may end up being right, especially if they keep having awful drafts... and that's ultimately what this will all be dependent upon. You are only as good as you draft, and if they bomb the 2017 draft, they will struggle again next season.
But with how the NFL today is structured, there are no old Cowboys dynasties or Niners dynasties. The Detroit Lions could conceivably win the Superbowl this season. I mean, I wouldn't bet on them, but they have a shot. My point is the Eagles don't have to climb this massive mountain to become a contender. Look at the teams they are competing with. There are a bunch of teams currently better than the Eagles right now, but when you watch, say, Seattle play... do they really impress you? Are you blown away by them to the point where you go man, gonna take 5 years to catch those guys. That's the same team that lost to the awful Rams and got annihilated by the Packers.
Unless you draft terribly, if it takes 5 years to catch Seattle, Dallas, GB, Detroit, etc then something seriously got farged up along the way.
the only dynasty is new England.
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on December 12, 2016, 05:26:59 PM
Unless you draft terribly, if it takes 5 years to catch Seattle, Dallas, GB, Detroit, etc then something seriously got farged up along the way.
i think three years is realistic to become one of the superbowl favorites
the one great thing about having the qb is that while they certainly need to upgrade the weaponry if wentz is the real thing they dont have to to have a great line...dallas had a dominant line in place thats allowed a 4th round pick to flourish the eagles in theory shouldnt need that if they have the great qb...of course they cant allow it to fall off a cliff but they also shouldnt need to spend tons of time over a period of years building a great OL...i would love to have dallas' line but with a franchise qb in wentz it gives you some leeway in that area
Howie is picking the "talent" and a baptist high school head coach is in charge of the team on the field.
Seriously.
im going with the assumption that doug is not around when/if this happens
The Chargers have had a really good franchise QB for like the last 12 years and we're talking 10 months after one of the worst 2015 QBs won the Super Bowl.
Franchise QB is the most important piece you can have but it's still first and foremost a team sport.
The good news for the Eagles is that parity is more supreme than ever; even the best teams in the NFL have multiple significant missing pieces, which definitely was not always the case.
Exactly why they should quit farging around and get his replacement in there now. Also - of the 22 starters at least 15 need to be upgraded just to be truly competitive. There's no quick fixes coming either so that suggestion needs to stop.
I want Doug fired after the season, but if you want a silver lining in him staying, here it is:
It will probably be another year of weak candidates. If the Eagles wait another year, it's possible John Harbaugh may be out in Baltimore, or Jim Harbaugh may be willing to leave Michigan. The next coach is probably going to be here for a little while. If they decide to pull the plug on Doug early, I can't see them doing that yet again with another coach after doing it twice in a row with Doug and Chip. So I'd rather have a vacancy when there are hot candidates available.
I'd actually love Josh McDaniels, but there's no way he's coming here if Howie is still here.
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on December 12, 2016, 05:13:47 PM
I don't post here enough to know the general feeling on the forum about him
So where the hell are you? We have about 15 of us who post regularly. We need 16.
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on December 12, 2016, 10:09:56 PM
I'd actually love Josh McDaniels, but there's no way he's coming here if Howie is still here.
I would love that! I think McDaniels is ready to give HC another shot and would be successful. Denver was a complete nightmare for him. BUT you are so right, if Pencil Dick is around no way he comes here.
Everett was apparently fined for illegal hits on both Celek and Sproles. 48k. He's gonna appeal, of course.
If I were him, I'd be more worried about the target he's got hanging on his back now.