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Classic Todd! I love it!
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starting qb: chase daniel
first wentz chant: 15:00 1Q
Quote from: MDS on September 03, 2016, 10:43:52 AM
starting qb: chase daniel
first wentz chant: 15:00 1Q
The fans will sit during the national anthem to highlight the injustice that is starting Sam Bradford...
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 03, 2016, 11:31:15 AM
Quote from: MDS on September 03, 2016, 10:43:52 AM
starting qb: chase daniel
first wentz chant: 15:00 1Q
The fans will sit during the national anthem to highlight the injustice that is trading Sam Bradford...
I should have read the other thread first... :paranoid
Start Wentz
I'd prefer him to start week 5 after the bye
If his ribs are healed, Browns and bears seems pretty appetizing.
Sounds like it's Wentz
Caplan reporting as such as long as the riblets are healed
haha holy shtein. Didn't think they'd be going with Wentz so soon, especially after he got all of like 2 quarters of preseason time.
I'm okay with mediocrity this season, but man is it going to be easier to deal with without boring-ass Bradford out there. At least until I get sick of this guy's bad habits and inability to improve.
I would rather start the season 0-4 with weeny then 2-2 with sammy. love this.
haha autocorrect but it kinda fits.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 03, 2016, 12:34:12 PM
I'd prefer him to start week 5 after the bye
so youre through the roof that sam bradford, an average nfl starting qb, is gone. but you want chase daniel, a below average backup qb, to start for the #2 pick so he can obtain 5 random weeks of half speed reps with the 2s.
the moment they traded bradford, which was fine considering the return, they threw away any chance of being even average. giving daniel any snaps, barring a wentz injury, accomplishes nothing. just do me a favor. dont complain when they go 3-13.
Thanks, coach.
This season just got a million times more interesting with Wentz starting
More like 998,384 times more interesting. There's enough hyperbole around here. Don't need you adding to it.
What's the 998,384th one though?
It will be one of the most interesting 2-14 seasons ever.
Barbre goes back to LG and Johnson is the RT this week...still no word on his suspension
Smallwood practiced but Curry did not...he's day to day
Doug says Wentz is healthy enough to go in Week 1.
sorry you ancient morons who still think its in 1975 and a qb needs 10 years to "learn da game, durrrrr"
WENTZADELPHIA
Quote from: SD on September 03, 2016, 04:10:48 PM
This season just got a million times more interesting with Wentz starting
so did the vikings season
They are a better team with Wentz starting than Daniel but only because Daniel is a no talent hack.
I just hope they don't get this kid maimed or destroyed mentally by constantly getting beaten to death back there.
Well now I'm excited at least
QuoteWentz was "laying in the middle of a cornfield" hunting geese in New Jersey on Saturday morning when Pederson called to deliver the news that he was the starter.
"I was obviously very surprised, but instantly I was just really excited," said Wentz. "We quickly cleaned up and got out of there because there were just so many emotions going on, and I was with my family and stuff. Now it's just kind of down to business. But I can tell you I am very confident and I'm very excited to get this opportunity."
Quote from: Rome on September 05, 2016, 02:23:13 PMI just hope they don't get this kid maimed or destroyed mentally by constantly getting beaten to death back there.
every single qb takes a beating. every single one.
either his body can adapt to taking shots or it never will and hell be a walking injury report
Welp, might as well cripple him before they find anyone for him to throw to.
Quote from: MDS on September 05, 2016, 06:18:55 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 05, 2016, 02:23:13 PMI just hope they don't get this kid maimed or destroyed mentally by constantly getting beaten to death back there.
every single qb takes a beating. every single one.
simply not true...also qb's who aren't qualified for the league yet take way more punishment
at least wentz is semi athletic which will help but thus year is not going to end well and could be a total catastrophe
sure. some take more than others but theres no qb that gets off without a scratch.
its a physical game played by big men. if wentz gets hurt, he gets hurt.
yes if you play long enough in the NFL you will get tackled but the good qb's don't get hit
He's a rookie, he's going to get nailed. Remember when the Eagles destroyed Eli in 2004? Let him take his lumps and make his mistakes, nothing can substitute for playing experience.
Quote from: SD on September 05, 2016, 07:50:06 PM
He's a rookie, he's going to get nailed. Remember when the Eagles destroyed Eli in 2004? Let him take his lumps and make his mistakes, nothing can substitute for playing experience.
this!!
I like this guy better now that the Eagles have a first round pick for this year's draft again. If he sucks, oh well...at least they didn't lose the farm for him.
^^^^and this^^^^^
Todd, please put back the Doug Pederson image. It made my day the past week.
joe banner said this morning that the browns didnt have wentz in their top 20 qb's in the draft
He's misinterpreting this story -
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000695625/article/report-browns-didnt-see-wentz-as-top20-qb-talent
not that where the Browns had him ranked matters that much.
the world should listen to a team that took couch, quinn, weeden & manziel.
Hey Couch was one of their best QBs of the last 17 years. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/15097928/ranking-browns-24-qbs-1999-worst-first
Quote from: smeags on September 06, 2016, 09:21:50 AM
the world should listen to a team that took couch, quinn, weeden & manziel.
I forget the exact stat but they've started like 20 something QBs since 2000. Definitely experts on the subject of QBs.
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Quote from: smeags on September 06, 2016, 09:21:50 AM
the world should listen to a team that took couch, quinn, weeden & manziel.
they have a brand new regime that leans on analytics...they probably are awful but throwing out a bunch of players from the past is irrelevant in this case
Quote from: SD on September 06, 2016, 09:42:11 AM
Quote from: smeags on September 06, 2016, 09:21:50 AM
the world should listen to a team that took couch, quinn, weeden & manziel.
I forget the exact stat but they've started like 20 something QBs since 2000. Definitely experts on the subject of QBs.
yep, the regime doesn't matter one bit, it's the browns.
i guess wentz is going to automatically suck then because the Eagles best qb ever was the bed wetter
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 06, 2016, 11:14:54 AM
i guess wentz is going to automatically suck then because the Eagles best qb ever was the bed wetter
Bedwetter is a borderline HOFer (I wouldn't put him in there but it's certainly debatable)
NFL HOF is a joke but regardless bed wetter was garbage and if he is your best ever qb you are never going to have a good one if you believe in curses or whatever you guys think the Browns have going on
who mentioned a curse ?
It's not curses, it's a fact they've consistently evaluated QBs poorly. You say they have new regime but Haslam's still their owner and like Lurie he's holds a lot of responsibility for the mess they're in.
Great...more of igy's misguided thoughts on Donovan
don't worry, im sure the debate will end right here.
lol
speaking of which today is the 18th anniversary of him getting lit up against the Seahawks 38-0 in 1998!
Quote from: SD on September 06, 2016, 11:37:32 AM
It's not curses, it's a fact they've consistently evaluated QBs poorly. You say they have new regime but Haslam's still their owner and like Lurie he's holds a lot of responsibility for the mess they're in.
they had goff over wentz and only traded the pick after the rams traded up for goff
newsflash: goff stinks
Quote from: SD on September 06, 2016, 11:37:32 AM
It's not curses, it's a fact they've consistently evaluated QBs poorly. You say they have new regime but Haslam's still their owner and like Lurie he's holds a lot of responsibility for the mess they're in.
haslem has turned over everything to these new guys....its a new day in cleveland...these people are analytic nerds and not even football guys so it probably will fail....but it wont fail because of who the franchise drafted in the 90's....that on some curse shtein and i dont believe in that
Or zesty ownership, but probably ghosts.
Fact is none of us have ever seen near enough of Wentz to make a judgment about him. All we know is he's a reasonably athletic, intelligent guy who has a pretty strong arm but throws passes which flutter. Positive, negative, no one has any real idea.
igy knows, because Wentz is a ginger white MA religious fanatic and Dak Prescott
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 06, 2016, 12:49:15 PM
Fact is none of us have ever seen near enough of Wentz to make a judgment about him.
I've seen a picture of him, so I've seen enough to know Pederson drafted him because he looks like a pedophile and assumed they'd have that in common.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 06, 2016, 12:49:15 PM
Fact is none of us have ever seen near enough of Wentz to make a judgment about him. All we know is he's a reasonably athletic, intelligent guy who has a pretty strong arm but throws passes which flutter. Positive, negative, no one has any real idea.
this. period.
and it all starts sunday.
Yay?
Quote from: Rome on September 06, 2016, 01:43:39 PM
Yay?
get on board, and get your ass up here for a tailgate, I mean game. :paranoid
Quote from: SD on September 06, 2016, 12:51:51 PM
igy knows, because Wentz is a ginger white MA religious fanatic and Dak Prescott
I know cause I've watched every snap he's ever taken in college and the odds are way against him...do I know for sure he's going to be a franchise qb?....no but I'll put all my cents against it vs your cents for it
When did you become a professional scout?
I'm actually better than most scouts or gm's except when it comes to qb's
this is actually a good thing for Carson wentz but I still want to know why he's gong to be awesome...because I don't see it and because I don't know qb's very well u need to give me a reason other than the fact hes an eagle
I'm definitely open to listening
I don't know good he's going to be, but he's athletic, has a great arm, is mobile, and his football IQ (from what I read) is off the charts. So he has the tools and the makings of a good QB. From what little I saw of him with a shtein line against a bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringers he was by far the most dominant player on the field. We'll see what happens Sunday, but regardless of if he throws for 200 yards and 3 picks or he throws for 400 yards and 4 TDs I'll give the guy a year to get his shtein together as we all should.
I don't see the great arm and I've looked far and wide for it...his arm seens fine to me but massively overrated by eagle fans cause there is nothing else there
I can also go on forever naming the genius qb's who have sucked and the dopes who have been good...so that made up idiocy is 100% eagle homerism to me...not to say every other fanbase wouldn't do the same
so, he's probably gonna suck, but he could potentially be good.
Quote from: smeags on September 07, 2016, 08:47:57 AM
so, he's probably gonna suck, but he could potentially be good.
No. Consider the audience to whom you're replying. He'll obviously be the worst QB of all time or the best QB of all time.
I just want to know where I could spend hours watching every snap that wentz ever took in college.
The more I think about it, the more I really hate the decision to start Wentz right away. Keep in mind, I wasn't really on board with it in the first place, so I'm just heading further in the same direction. This dude has A LOT going against him making it in the NFL. He didn't play against top college competition. He doesn't have any single "transcendent" attribute. He played like 1/2 of a preseason game and then missed a few weeks with injury, so it's not like he even got a lot of reps in during practice. If you've got an Andrew Luck or Cam Newton or even a Sam Bradford, then fine....throw him to the wolves in week 1. It might not be pretty, but those guys were so well groomed and so incredibly talented in college that they all had significantly higher odds of being able to the transition on the fly.
This dude damn near got murdered behind a bad OL against guys who are currently looking for work. Not all his fault, but the game is only going to get faster and the hits are going to be harder. Maybe if dude had more snaps in the preseason I'd be a little more on board with it, but as it stands right now there's literally nothing to gain by starting him week 1. Daniels should be starting until the bye, give Wentz like 30% of the 1st team reps in practice until then, and then 100% of the practice snaps for the 2 weeks during the bye. Start week 5.
This move really screams like it's coming from either Howie or even Lurie and it's about generating buzz and selling merchandise more than what might actually be best for the team.
I agree with that. I think they're tempting fate but I'm way more interested in watching on Sunday than I was with Bradford and especially Daniel.
This reeks of desperation, though.
Hope I'm wrong.
im not on board with starting him week 1 either. the lack of top college competition is one thing, but as we all saw, the guy barely played during the pre-season and spent little time getting first team reps during camp. the speed of the game will be even faster come sunday and the defenses he will see will not be vanilla.
that said, for better or for worse, the game does have a little extra energy to it now and ill be there to see the wentz era begin, and hopefully not end. :paranoid
How about, it doesn't farging matter anyway.
No one knows for sure if sitting one dude or starting another works best. Getting extra 'Practice' reps isn't going to do shtein. It's like, "Let me practice on my inflatable doll for a year before I try with a real woman". It didn't work for me, it won't work for Wentz.
He wants this job, have him learn it. It's not like this O-Line is all of a sudden going to get better when he gets in there mid-season. In fact, it might help them gel together knowing that they're the only thing protecting Wentz's interest in being able to walk after he retires.
Throw him in, he's not 12 years old, have him learn. farg practice, farg being a Hoyda. The game isn't as 'tough' as it used to be. There are more protections for QB's now than there ever were.
Oh, it's definitely more intriguing. That's why I think this is a Howie/Lurie decision, because it's a good business/terrible football decision.
Quote from: hbionic on September 07, 2016, 11:55:25 AM
How about, it doesn't farging matter anyway.
No one knows for sure if sitting one dude or starting another works best. Getting extra 'Practice' reps isn't going to do shtein. It's like, "Let me practice on my inflatable doll for a year before I try with a real woman". It didn't work for me, it won't work for Wentz.
i'll disagree with your opinion, but I love this analogy. :yay :yay
The sooner he busts, the sooner they can fire Dougie and draft the next bust.
I don't think it's a terrible football decision, especially with Lane not suspended yet.
The Browns and Bears have bad defenses. The OLine is probably the best it's going to be with Lane and a healthy Peters. Steelers defense isn't amazing either. Run him out for 3 weeks, then you get two weeks to pull through the tape and make corrections and adjustments coming out of the bye.
Quote from: hbionic on September 07, 2016, 11:55:25 AM
How about, it doesn't farging matter anyway.
No one knows for sure if sitting one dude or starting another works best. Getting extra 'Practice' reps isn't going to do shtein. It's like, "Let me practice on my inflatable doll for a year before I try with a real woman". It didn't work for me, it won't work for Wentz.
He wants this job, have him learn it. It's not like this O-Line is all of a sudden going to get better when he gets in there mid-season. In fact, it might help them gel together knowing that they're the only thing protecting Wentz's interest in being able to walk after he retires.
Throw him in, he's not 12 years old, have him learn. farg practice, farg being a Hoyda. The game isn't as 'tough' as it used to be. There are more protections for QB's now than there ever were.
Lol.
The modern game is definitely more favorable to young QBs because of the rules, this is true. Legit NFL prospects don't need to sit for an entire year like they did back in the day. And I'm not even suggesting that Wentz sits the entire year, just 3 weeks. If he were a Luck or Cam, then you can throw him to the wolves. He isn't those guys. Not even close. Maybe he develops into that kind of player, but that's not what he is today.
Fine, Cam and Luck had great college careers...but so did many others. Also, Cam and Luck have had some zesty stretches in their careers after their first season. It all has to do with the personnel around you. Wentz is already starting with nothing, so it only goes up from here. That's why sitting him doesn't matter. He might as well learn with the slop he has around him.
It's got less to do with their body of work and more to do with their actual skill set and how it potentially translates to the NFL. When you've got these "can't miss" prospects, you throw them in and see what they've got. But when you've got a guy who played against community colleges and ITT Tech, it might not be the worst idea to bring him a long a little slower, especially when he didn't get much of a preseason. Like I said, had he not gotten hurt and took more live action snaps, then I'd be much more in favor of starting him.
This isn't about who gives the Eagles the best chance to win games. It's about doing what gives Wentz...the guy you gave up a potential top 5 pick for... the best chance chance to develop into a quality NFL starting QB.
In the history of the NFL, no QB development was ever hindered by spending a few weeks on the bench.
So what you're saying is Wentz was so good they had to close ITT Tech?
botton line this, with Bradford gone, its obvious that, regardless of nfl experience and his stupid contract, Daniel is so far below wentz in every possible category that the team wants to start the future now. plus maybe spike wentz's jersey sales some.
Pittsburgh and most of Virginia and West Virginia switched away from our game, but look at all those new fans in North Dakota
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I was against starting him..I figured after the bye would be the best.
But you know what? farg it let it rip. Some players have said that they are glad they played right away and others are more cautious and preferred to sit.
pretty much, this way we don't have to sit around and wonder as Daniel makes sanchez look all world.
It is what it is, and it's not like I'm rooting against him. I just look at it like this...riding the bench for a few games or even a full season has never prevented a QB from living up to his potential. It's not like Aarons Rodgers would somehow be even better had he not sat for 2 years. And considering everything the Eagles have invested in this kid, I think they're being foolish. Maybe he still balls out. I hope he does. But even if he throws for 5000 yards this year, it still doesn't change the fact they're being reckless with their own future right now.
I don't really get the reckless argument. If you want to start him after the bye anyway, how is it reckless to play him against Cleveland, Chicago, and Pittsburgh? The Eagles OLine, as currently constructed, is actually above average until Johnson gets suspended and Peters goes down. This isn't the expansion Texans feeding Carr to the wolves, and they're playing mediocre/bad defenses before the bye.
If they were opening with Seattle & Denver I might agree.
Agreed with Legendz.
You can't learn shtein on the bench. Your first time will always be your first time. It's like us, we will never know what its like to start as an NFL QB until we get out on the field and take a snap. We only know so much from watching on TV.
"Tell me, I may forget. Show me, I may remember. Involve me, and I"ll understand". -Some ancient chinese dude
Quote from: hbionic on September 07, 2016, 04:11:50 PM
You can't learn shtein on the bench.
that is incorrect. especially at QB.
either way, the guy is starting sunday. I just hope the kid makes it after Johnson and peters are gone.
Apparently the Birds are going with the green/white combo on Sunday. First time they're using that combo for a September day game at home since 9/25/2011 against the Giants, and before that, you have to go back to the last year of the Vet when expansion Houston came to town and Dawkins had the "quadrifecta"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foxQYMJJdmE
(Jump to 6:20)
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 07, 2016, 04:23:09 PM
Apparently the Birds are going with the green/white combo on Sunday. First time they're using that combo for a September day game at home since 9/25/2011 against the Giants, and before that, you have to go back to the last year of the Vet when expansion Houston came to town and Dawkins had the "quadrifecta"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foxQYMJJdmE
(Jump to 6:20)
I think Westbrook threw a TD that day to Pinky too
I like that the video is old enough that they had to explain Wolverine.
I'd rather watch the great white hope than his intended back up. How much practice he had, that he was hunting when the call came, the Browns having passed on him, none of that matters.
He's the kid let's see him play.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 07, 2016, 04:01:20 PM
I don't really get the reckless argument. If you want to start him after the bye anyway, how is it reckless to play him against Cleveland, Chicago, and Pittsburgh? The Eagles OLine, as currently constructed, is actually above average until Johnson gets suspended and Peters goes down. This isn't the expansion Texans feeding Carr to the wolves, and they're playing mediocre/bad defenses before the bye.
If they were opening with Seattle & Denver I might agree.
I say reckless because he got practically no meaningful work in the preseason, so it's fair to say that he might be ill prepared to face a real NFL defense at full speed like a a month after breaking a couple of ribs. But he's starting, so everything's pretty moot at this point.
It's the Browns. That's about as close to preseason as the regular season is going to get.
I know it's probably just my feeble homertastic hopefulness rearing its ugly misshapen head, but I have a feeling this team is going to destroy Cleveland on Sunday.
im leaning the other way
wentz is a giant unknown....but the odds are hes going to be out of his element and the defense cant possibly be expected to gel in game 1.
Yeah I'm not sure how this will go. I hope they destroy them but I've got a feeling it'll be closer than we would like.
Unless the defense absolutely balls out and creates turnover after turnover, there's no way in hell the Eagles scores enough points on their own to blow out anyone this year.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 07, 2016, 06:13:29 PM
I say reckless because he got practically no meaningful work in the preseason
he hasnt had any really meaningful work in his life as a qb
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 07, 2016, 04:23:09 PM
for a September day game at home
this is the most eazyest eazy thing ever
lol i was gonna say that....he had the exact date and specifics on jerseys combos. man i love this guy.
maps if you want http://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2016&wk=1
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2016, 10:57:38 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 07, 2016, 06:13:29 PM
I say reckless because he got practically no meaningful work in the preseason
he hasnt had any really meaningful work in his life as a qb
haha. Can't really argue that.
Quote from: Rome on September 07, 2016, 07:35:22 PM
I know it's probably just my feeble homertastic hopefulness rearing its ugly misshapen head, but I have a feeling this team is going to destroy Cleveland on Sunday.
I'm sort of with you on this. Hooray unwarranted and probably illogical optimism.
if wentz lights it up sunday, the town will start booking their hotels for canton. if he sucks, watch the bridges and train tracks.
Not to mention pages of I told you so's from IGY...
well that goes without saying, but yeah.
24-17 EAGLES
28-10 Browns
24-10 Eagles.
Defense is dominant. Offense only puts up 17. Two Ryan Matthews rushing TDs. Defense takes a late sack-fumble to the house to ice it.
This proves to be the high point of the season.
Hope I'm wrong because I'll be there but I see a low scoring sloppy game. Something like 13-10 and some team wins.
Damn, that's some quick ejac!
I think the Eagles suck. Browns aren't as bad as years past.
If Wentz has a massive package, he'll stuff it down the Browns's throat. If the Brown's become engorged, then they'll flip the eagles over and plow through them.
10-7 Eagles.
most week 1 nfl games are extremely hard to predict....this game is literally impossible....you have one qb who didnt play last year and for all intents and purposes you can argue is playing his "first" nfl game as hes starting from scratch and you have a 1-aa rookie facing nfl starters for the first time
the browns offense is a dumpster fire and has less weapons than the eagles if thats even possible....i do really like corey coleman a lot but hes a rookie so i dont know how much damage he does sunday...likewise their defense is also pretty terrible
all in all you couldnt find a better team for your rookie qb to start his career against....the problem for the eagles is that wentz isnt a normal qb....hes a 1-aa qb with 23 career starts who hasnt played in a month and has sore ribs
im torn bwtn the eagles being the better team at home and carson wentz being an abomination sunday who is wildly inaaccurate and throws four picks...i think ultimately this game is won or lost by pederson and how well he draws up and calls the game plan...and its not just about running the ball 45 times the browns are expecting that...how much mis direction can he properly mix in....bunch of waggles...jet sweeps...reverses etc...
short of a defensive or specials team score or a bunch of turnovers which gives field position I think 16 pts wins this game...i just have no idea who gets closer to that number
I guess until I see wentz and pederson prove themselves in the league ill go with the experience of rg3 and hugh jackson
16-10 browns
Quote from: hbionic on September 09, 2016, 02:13:18 PM
Damn, that's some quick ejac!
I think the Eagles suck. Browns aren't as bad as years past.
If Wentz has a massive package, he'll stuff it down the Browns's throat. If the Brown's become engorged, then they'll flip the eagles over and plow through them.
10-7 Eagles.
you really need to find a man and let out these frustrations bro.
How telling of Pederson's regime would it be if first play from scrimmage was a play-action bomb?
I would actually like that. farg it.
Quote from: hbionic on September 09, 2016, 02:33:51 PM
How telling of Pederson's regime would it be if first play from scrimmage was a play-action bomb?
I would actually like that. farg it.
A bomb to start and then farg-all the rest of the game? That sounds about right for Andy-light.
I'm thinking 17-9 Browns. Probably a total blowout if they can't get some pressure on Griffin. I'm not expecting much from an offense with one receiver who might be good if he wants to give a shtein and a rookie QB.
I actually forget Bob Knee III was their QB.
Eagles 27
Browns 13
Bobby G is complete trash and the main threat on their offense is some old white guy named Gary Barnidge. They don't even care about the game because their draft position is helped either way.
Still, 24-13 Browns. The Eagles are going to be truly terrible.
19-13 Eagles
20-17 eagles
i think wentz does nothing horrible and the eagles just have enough talent to beat the worst team in football.
23-17 birds. Won't be pretty but Bob 3, god awful team, even the birds can't blow this. I think.
Yooooooo it's farging Gameday babyyyyy!
Trey Burton inactive with a calf injury
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Excellent placement on that throw. Great catch by ertz.
Also, Jordan Matthews currently leads the league in drops this year.
Very nice TE screen. Doug calling a nice game so far.
Wow...beautiful throw and catch!!
Hell of a first drive there.
If they don't do shtein for the next 4 drives, then Pederson truly is Andy.
Boom!! Wentzzzzz
Wentz doesn't look the least bit intimidated.
Super Bowl, baby!!! :crazy
(Or at least I'll adjust my expectations to 4-12...)
How many plays into the next drive before he gets decapitated?
Quote from: Munson on September 11, 2016, 01:13:49 PM
Hell of a first drive there.
If they don't do shtein for the next 4 drives, then Pederson truly is Andy.
Dougie Reiderson...
Lol. Nice opening series for the defense.
Sprolesy!
So Sproles is still kinda good, huh?
Quote from: General_Failure on September 11, 2016, 01:32:33 PM
So Sproles is still kinda good, huh?
His warranty runs out week 3, so his leg will fall off week 4.
Nice miss, Sturgis
He's not good
They ask this kid to throw one pass on a drive, and what does he do? Takes a sack. What a bust.
Paging Cody Parkey...
Nm
Lolol at that fourth down by Cleveland
The scouting report on Wentz has been that when he misses, he misses high. Done that twice so far.
What a lousy farging call on Jenkins
NFL officials at it again
Oh and Curry was held and tackled but that isn't called
Total bullshtein.
All those bobbled catches were bound to pay off at some point.
Wow, Eagles in the 2 min offense and they got all THREE timeouts available.
Proof that Pederson didn't learn shtein from Andy. He's never gonna make it as a coach.
purchased NFL Sunday Ticket so can watch on all mobile devices. Loving it!
Drops are a killer
Settling for FGs sucks
Damnit, those last three plays before fg were awful
The 3rd down play call was excellent. Sproles dropping it is pure Philly sports.
He catches that he's got that LB beat and then some
Nothing great, yes its the Browns but so far very impressed with Wentz.
Uh...can someone post a link to a live feed of the game? Thank you.
*Yes, I do want things that cost money for free.
Wow. 3 defenders and no one's even looking for the ball.
If you've got directv, they're doing a free weekend of the ticket.
This secondary is brutal. Coverage sucks, tackling sucks
Thanks Sarge! Now I can channel my hate properly!
Seriously.....999 times out of 1000, an underthrown ball into triple coverage gets picked. Eagles constantly find ways to defy the wrong farging odds.
Should have been 6.
Drops again
And Dougie Fresh needs to let Wentz throw deep once in awhile
Safety!
The Eagles are kinda bad, but man the Browns are really bad.
The farging drops jesus
Yesssssss!!!!
Beautiful throw
His accuracy is impressive.
What a throw!
Harold Carmichael sighting!
Doug with the 4th down call, Wentz with that TD pass, everybody's just letting balls hang out now.
Balls out for harambe?
Wentz wents deep on that one. I want to kiss him so hard right now.
I know it's Cleveland and it's still going to be a long season, but Wentz looks really good today.
Yup. Very encouraging start. Couldn't really ask for him to do any more.
Eagles have more top in this game than they probably had in any 2 combined games last year.
The best debut anyone could have reasonably hoped for.
Penalties and drops need to be cleaned up but nice game from the rook
Gotta give Pederson some props. Pretty solid play calling and clock management. Doesn't seem like much, but I think it's REALLY impressive that with a rookie QB in his first game that they didn't have to burn any timeouts or take any delay of game penalties.
I meant for Wentz. The team is mediocre, as advertised.
Lol at Mathews trying to go over the top off tackle.
Also lol @ Peters catching Mathews in the end zone.
Peters should be credited with a reception.
Aw man, they showed a Dorenbos magic trick and haves is at the game, so he missed it. Hes gonna be crushed.
White Lives Matter
Bob 3 back in to hand off three straight plays.
Agreed with Sarge on Pedersons play calling
Clean up penalties and drops for next week plz
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 11, 2016, 02:43:19 PM
If you've got directv, they're doing a free weekend of the ticket.
BTW, just want to say since dirtv was bought by ATT they really suck balls hard
Wentz looks very poised. He was mocked when he said the game has slowed down for him (after taking his mental reps) but he showed it today. Bodes well for the future. If he can stay alive.
Impossible because he's from North Dakota and sucks bro
Me and Jay are the bandwagon. The rest of you need to gtfo.
All aboard to Wentzadelphia!
Wentz threw two of the most perfect passes I've ever seen live. He has the arm strength, he has the wit, he has the touch. farg the 1AA bullshtein and I don't care that they were only playing the Browns. He has a bunch of 3rd and 4th receivers and carried them. All aboard the Wentzwagon.
Quote from: Rome on September 09, 2016, 03:18:34 PM
I actually forget Bob Knee III was their QB.
Eagles 27
Browns 13
Boom.
jesus I love nu eagle fans
Quote from: SD on September 11, 2016, 05:12:15 PM
Wentz threw two of the most perfect passes I've ever seen live. He has the arm strength, he has the wit, he has the touch. farg the 1AA bullshtein and I don't care that they were only playing the Browns. He has a bunch of 3rd and 4th receivers and carried them. All aboard the Wentzwagon.
Actually, I think Jordan Matthews is continuing his upward arc and is becoming a pretty good receiver. If he can, like, catch the ball when it hits him in the hands.
Jordan Matthews chest and stomach are his friend
keep your hands in your pockets
Wentz played his dick off today. Quit being a miserable cunnt and celebrate.
Can't imagine how any of you are bitching about Wentz's performance today...but here you are. Go CF. Love you guys.
I haven't read the thread but did people actually bitch about wentz?
he exceeded my wildest expectations
Well your expectations were rock bottom so any slight criticism you should take as bitching.
He looked like a seasoned vet out there. Granted it was the Browns but still...
Thrilled with so many things. Not the throws but more his smarts. Dude played awesome.
is there anything smarter than a middle American?!?!?
nodak 4 life
Hitler comes to mind
I didn't see anyone bitch about Wentz in here
And wtf is a "nu" fan
I don't give a farg about anyone's opinions right now. The Eagles won and that makes my meatcicle hard, and frankly, at my age, I'll take it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 11, 2016, 06:02:42 PM
I didn't see anyone bitch about Wentz in here
And wtf is a "nu" fan
ones that that don't think the current jerseys are an abomination to mankind
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 11, 2016, 06:02:42 PM
I didn't see anyone bitch about Wentz in here
And wtf is a "nu" fan
I saw nothing but praise. I toned down my excitement because it was the Browns but hey they're still an NFL defense with one of the best corners in football. And agreed, Wentz threw two of the prettiest passes I've ever seen. Agholors was a thing of beauty.
Quote from: SD on September 11, 2016, 05:24:51 PM
Can't imagine how any of you are bitching about Wentz's performance today...but here you are. Go CF. Love you guys.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2016, 06:15:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 11, 2016, 06:02:42 PM
I didn't see anyone bitch about Wentz in here
And wtf is a "nu" fan
ones that that don't think the current jerseys are an abomination to mankind
Burn those Luriesque pieces of shtein. Was just showing my buddy the 1974 jerseys and those shiny, funky helmets. Bring um' back Mr. Windmill.
wentz was terrific and the modern day 85 bears were solid, too
16-0
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2016, 06:17:25 PM
Quote from: SD on September 11, 2016, 05:24:51 PM
Can't imagine how any of you are bitching about Wentz's performance today...but here you are. Go CF. Love you guys.
I refuse to wear the modern Eagles logo.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2016, 06:15:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 11, 2016, 06:02:42 PM
I didn't see anyone bitch about Wentz in here
And wtf is a "nu" fan
ones that that don't think the current jerseys are an abomination to mankind
Lol
Wentz was impressive. Hard not to get a little hopeful. It's nice to start the season with a win to enjoy for a week. I love Fletcher Cox. Graham continues to make me eat my words. I have to admit that he was not, finally, a bust. Pederson ran the game like a pro. It went his way, though. We'll see.
What a nice day.
Caught the game at a bar in VA Beach while on the road. I walk in and unknown to me, it's a total Eagle bar with dozens of Bird fans. Game was practically a three hour celebration. Welcome back, NFL.
Dio, put that as a Haiku. That was beautiful.
I was the only Eagle fan in the bar, with only one Browns fan. Lots of people in Ravens costumes, of course. It was my local pub, we all know everyone. Friendly place. The Raven's and O's victories made everyone happy.
(https://external-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQBiz0P4Ff46WnTq&url=http://i.imgur.com/Utg7R7o.gif?noredirect&ext=gif)
http://video.nfl.com/films/2016/NFL_COM/in-game-highlight/NFLCOM/REG/1/160811_phi_wentz_agholor_35yard_td_595192_5000k.mp4
http://video.nfl.com/films/2016/NFL_COM/in-game-highlight/NFLCOM/REG/1/160811_phi_mathews_1yard_td_595250_5000k.mp4
https://youtu.be/_FBRIBLSxVc
Good stuff Dio :yay
Coaches said all week he was ready and boy they weren't BSing. Excellent start. I have no idea how good Wentz will become, but he passes the eye test for sure. He has a lot of tools, that guy. Looks the part, and looks cerebral/poised/etc.
That shtein was fun. I was comparing every play to what Sammy would have done and Carson literally did every single thing better.
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on September 11, 2016, 08:22:45 PM
Coaches said all week he was ready and boy they weren't BSing. Excellent start. I have no idea how good Wentz will become, but he passes the eye test for sure. He has a lot of tools, that guy. Looks the part, and looks cerebral/poised/etc.
i thought it was especially cool how he raised his arms like an eagle before every play
I won't be satisfied until they make him do the Koy Detmer double titty squeeze motion for audibles.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 11, 2016, 09:00:06 PM
I won't be satisfied until they make him do the Koy Detmer double titty squeeze motion for audibles.
what you know about the bobby hoying samba?
amazing what jamming to some worship music before a big game can do for a guy.
He can jam to Sesame Street tunes for all I care. Anything that works for him.
I preferred The Electric Company as a kid. No Muppets.
Quote from: Rome on September 12, 2016, 09:31:41 AM
I preferred The Electric Company as a kid. No Muppets.
best spiderman, ever.
doug!
https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/775408737255317504
He doesn't sound as schmucky talking to the team as I thought he would. Still schmucky, but way better than he talks to the media. Not to mention he called as flawless a game as I can remember.
I thought the whole thing was staged, corny and awkward.
Staged, no. They do that after every game. Corny and awkward, yes.
I think he should have had his shirt off, like the rest of the guys in the locker room sans Jeffrey...so that he could relate and connect with the players more. Seems like an empty speech without a little skin showing.
They spontaneously do it after every game.
Lol
the video was an infomercial produced and distributed by the Eagles....this wasn't filmed by inspector gadget and his lapel pin camera catching some off the cuff tender moment when the team didn't think anyone was looking....Hamilton is less scripted