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Title: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 16, 2016, 09:52:31 AM
Traded to the Eagles for Dennis Kelly

Nice
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on August 16, 2016, 09:56:08 AM
Part of me wants to say LOL

Other part doesn't mind seeing Dennis Kelly leave and Beckham has about as much talent as what's currently on the roster (sadly) so whatever.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 09:58:15 AM
it just shows how pathetic their wr's really are that they traded an OT for one when lane Johnson is about to be suspended
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 16, 2016, 10:04:07 AM
But does Dennis Kelly really qualify as an NFL OT? No

On the other hand Tenny just unloaded a talented second rounder for a cardboard cutout OT because of work ethic questions.

But a good gamble by Howie
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 16, 2016, 10:04:27 AM
dennis kelly is a turnstile

they cant find another dennis kelly on the street in 2 weeks
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 10:06:38 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 16, 2016, 10:04:07 AM
But does Dennis Kelly really qualify as an NFL OT? No

he actually does....again hes nothing special but he held his own with peters out last year....admittedly hes more valuable to the eagles than to most other teams....but yes he is a real live nfl OT
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 16, 2016, 10:07:56 AM
i had no idea you were this high on dennis kelly

he wasnt even gonna start. theyre going with barbre at rt and seamalu at lg.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: MDS on August 16, 2016, 10:04:27 AM
dennis kelly is a turnstile

they cant find another dennis kelly on the street in 2 weeks

hes struggles in pass protect....but hes actually a pretty damn good run blocker and Pederson wants to run the shtein out of the ball...and no you cant just find an nfl grade OT on the street....you are thinking of guard and even that is highly questionable

again im for the trade because dgb has freakish abilities that you want to take a chance on...but its not like the eagles swindled someone here
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on August 16, 2016, 10:13:28 AM
Dennis Kelly is horrible, if he was released no one would blink an eye
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on August 16, 2016, 10:17:08 AM
Quote from: SD on August 16, 2016, 10:13:28 AM
Dennis Kelly is horrible, if he was released no one would blink an eye

yep...great trade, imo.  eagles brought in brooks, wiz, & the 2 rooks...so kelly might not have even made the roster. 
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 16, 2016, 10:19:38 AM
he wouldve made the roster because of the johnson suspension

in fact wiz might not make it...dude has started every game of his nfl career and was passed by some rookie who didnt even go to minicamp
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 10:22:04 AM
Quote from: SD on August 16, 2016, 10:13:28 AM
Dennis Kelly is horrible, if he was released no one would blink an eye

hes horrible if hes your starter.....but hes a serviceable back up....i don't think you realize how bad back up lineman are in this league....shtein look at the titans back up tackles...they are a garbage fire

if dennis kelly can be released without the blink of an eye then so can 80% of the back up OL in the nfl...also if you think that then dgb is also getting released because no team is giving up a second year player with that kind of talent for a guy they are going to release...i mean forget a cancer he has to be ebola if they cut Kelly

i prefer to think that each team got a player they like and thinks will help them...tenn upgrading their OL depth and the eagles looking for upside at a terrible position
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 16, 2016, 10:23:08 AM
Quote#Titans are upset w/ how Green-Beckham responded to demands. Told to work harder in offseason, came in out of shape. Didn't improve. #Eagles

steal!
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on August 16, 2016, 10:24:21 AM
#culture
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on August 16, 2016, 10:26:12 AM
f'n dennis kelly fanclub is all upset in here.  :-D  don't worry...you'll get over it eventually.

so which wr does this push out?  huff?  :paranoid
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 10:26:19 AM
Quote from: hunt on August 16, 2016, 10:17:08 AM
eagles brought in brooks, wiz, & the 2 rooks...so kelly might not have even made the roster.

Kelly is an OT...all those other guys are guards...he was a lock to make the roster and very easily could have won the RT tackle job...the only reason they have barbre there now is because they prefer Kelly as peters back up on the left side...barbre has experience in the nfl at RT
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 16, 2016, 10:26:31 AM
Kelly is garbage.  I can't believe anyone is less than relieved he's out of there. 

Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on August 16, 2016, 10:27:17 AM
such a lock to make the roster that they just traded him, mel kiper jr.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 10:28:08 AM
Quote from: hunt on August 16, 2016, 10:27:17 AM
such a lock to make the roster that they just traded him, mel kiper jr.

point is he wasn't getting cut....and you don't know what positions their lineman play so just stop
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on August 16, 2016, 10:29:30 AM
Huff is still on the team?
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on August 16, 2016, 10:31:56 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 10:28:08 AM
Quote from: hunt on August 16, 2016, 10:27:17 AM
such a lock to make the roster that they just traded him, mel kiper jr.

point is he wasn't getting cut....and you don't know what positions their lineman play so just stop

point is he's gone...barbre is practicing at rt & so is the rook with the ridiculously long name i won't even try to spell.  but yeah, all the new guys are guards and kelly...who they just traded...was going to a valuable backup tackle. 
yeah...go with that.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 16, 2016, 10:32:51 AM
so he grew up with no dad and his moms was on that stuff

im sure mike mularkey, a human ape, was very cognizant of that. doug p is a doofus but his approach might work better?
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on August 16, 2016, 10:33:52 AM
I make this trade 100 times out of 100 just for the upside.  Howeeever- DGB with all of his issues strikes me as the type where if you had a Pete Carroll or Belichick or even Jim Harbaugh type, you could turn him into a pro bowl WR - with Doug, I tend to expect this goes no where.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 10:37:39 AM
Quote from: hunt on August 16, 2016, 10:31:56 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 10:28:08 AM
Quote from: hunt on August 16, 2016, 10:27:17 AM
such a lock to make the roster that they just traded him, mel kiper jr.

point is he wasn't getting cut....and you don't know what positions their lineman play so just stop

point is he's gone...barbre is practicing at rt & so is the rook with the ridiculously long name i won't even try to spell.  but yeah, all the new guys are guards and kelly...who they just traded...was going to a valuable backup tackle. 
yeah...go with that.

the guy with the long name is horrible and practice squad at best...and yes Kelly was at worst the back up LT and very possibly the starter at RT...but they have a million guards so he was going to be cut....wtf?
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on August 16, 2016, 10:45:10 AM
(https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/UTzlp222UgdBtjN9ZToA5QskbWI=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4329439/DGBTD.0.gif)

Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 10:56:19 AM
so many beat writers saying right now that the eagles needed dgb to improve their depth at wr....they actually have depth there they just aren't good....OT has much worse depth....they needed a shot of talent at wr that's what this deal did
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 10:58:19 AM
howie pederson presser supposed to start at 11
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on August 16, 2016, 10:59:14 AM
The funny thing is that the Eagles already have a talented yet lazy WR who will never come close to reaching his potential in Randle. Now they have two.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 11:01:59 AM
true they both seem to be knuckleheads but to be fair they are on different planets when it comes to talent...dgb could be alshon jeffery if he applied himself
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on August 16, 2016, 11:05:01 AM
if you're super bored, here you go:

https://youtu.be/G-CwGEu6fqQ


you have to click on it a 2nd time to watch on youtube.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 11:24:02 AM
howie said that with lane being out it was really hard to pull the trigger on this deal but that with the picks they traded for wentz they have to take chances to upgrade the talent on the roster.....

so basically the GM just admitted that the roster is devoid of talent and they have no picks to make it better

and now simpleton doug is up
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 11:33:30 AM
someone asked something about wendall smallwoods size and Pederson said "his heith?"
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 12:20:01 PM
QuoteI was told last year that DGB had trouble even getting lined up correctly for Titans. Guess this year wasn't going much better.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 16, 2016, 12:21:30 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 16, 2016, 10:32:51 AM
so he grew up with no dad and his moms was on that stuff

im sure mike mularkey, a human ape, was very cognizant of that. doug p is a doofus but his approach might work better?

Well he did work under the wing of Father of the Year Reid, so...
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AshishPatel81 on August 16, 2016, 04:37:37 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 11:24:02 AM
howie said that with lane being out it was really hard to pull the trigger on this deal but that with the picks they traded for wentz they have to take chances to upgrade the talent on the roster.....

so basically the GM just admitted that the roster is devoid of talent and they have no picks to make it better

and now simpleton doug is up

I'm all for it. Chip Kelly basically left this team in shambles at WR, and he has really nice physical tools.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 16, 2016, 04:53:22 PM
I'll be surprised if dgb is on the team at the end of the season but yeah it's a no lose trade....it's just amazing what a shambles they are in that the gm admitted to getting this  moron because they have no talent and no picks
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on August 16, 2016, 06:00:21 PM
Maybe dude just needs a new situation and coach, and why not Philly.

Maybe he's a born shteinfarg.

We'll see.

I don't much care about Dennis Kelly, good luck to him. 
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 16, 2016, 06:47:45 PM
What's funny is we're always complaining that the Eagles pick guys like Dennis Kelly in the draft or acquire them via free agency, and never take guys with actual athletic ability.

Now they do exactly that and some of us are STILL complaining.

I honestly think that's why the Eagles have never won anything.  The fans are absolute iceholes and don't deserve a winner.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 16, 2016, 06:59:51 PM
If fan quality was what determined champions then nobody would ever win anything.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on August 16, 2016, 07:30:20 PM
Like this move.  Dennis Kelly is gone.  It's going to be ok. 
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on August 16, 2016, 08:48:12 PM
I'm still trying to confirm who this Dennis Kelly character was. Not sure he was ever on the team. I for sure didn't know his name. So, logic says, if I didn't know him, he didn't exist. It's like I never lost anything and gained a Beckham!
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 16, 2016, 08:50:19 PM
Quote from: hbionic on August 16, 2016, 08:48:12 PM
I'm still trying to confirm who this Dennis Kelly character was. Not sure he was ever on the team. I for sure didn't know his name. So, logic says, if I didn't know him, he didn't exist. It's like I never lost anything and gained a Beckham!

(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/static/img/fantasy/transparent/200x200/KEL539857.png)
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on August 16, 2016, 09:38:50 PM
He was drafted the same year as Nick Foles, Brandon Boykin, and Bryce Brown. All those guys have been with three teams already but Kelly has been such a integral piece for the Eagles that they couldn't let him leave until this opportunity arose.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AshishPatel81 on August 16, 2016, 10:02:04 PM
I'm still skeptical of Howie, but at least he has been thinking logically lately. Every move he has made has at least made some sense, sans Chase Daniel, although as many have speculated that was probably a gift to Pederson.

Like or dislike Wentz, the logic for making the move was sound. The logic for this move was sound as well. They are going to have very little cap room and draft picks next year, they need to hit on some gamble moves to boost the talent. Agree with him 100% on that. And even if a star caliber receiver did get put on the trade block, the Eagles don't really have the resources to acquire them.

It's a breath of fresh air coming off the regime of a man who let his personal oddities and weird fascinations dictate his moves over basic logic and reason.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on August 17, 2016, 04:13:10 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 16, 2016, 08:50:19 PM
Quote from: hbionic on August 16, 2016, 08:48:12 PM
I'm still trying to confirm who this Dennis Kelly character was. Not sure he was ever on the team. I for sure didn't know his name. So, logic says, if I didn't know him, he didn't exist. It's like I never lost anything and gained a Beckham!

(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/static/img/fantasy/transparent/200x200/KEL539857.png)

I swear he probably still hasn't washed his hair since he was drafted.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on August 17, 2016, 04:14:41 AM
Quote from: hbionic on August 16, 2016, 08:48:12 PM
I'm still trying to confirm who this Dennis Kelly character was. Not sure he was ever on the team. I for sure didn't know his name. So, logic says, if I didn't know him, he didn't exist. It's like I never lost anything and gained a Beckham!

You're kidding right?  We've been mocking this guy since he was drafted.  Been creeping us out for a few years now.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 17, 2016, 05:53:59 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 16, 2016, 06:47:45 PM
What's funny is we're always complaining that the Eagles pick guys like Dennis Kelly in the draft or acquire them via free agency, and never take guys with actual athletic ability.

Now they do exactly that and some of us are STILL complaining.

I honestly think that's why the Eagles have never won anything.  The fans are absolute iceholes and don't deserve a winner.

except not one single person hasn't co-signed this trade and done do strongly...you just got mad homer tendencies and seek out the negative which is really weird here because there is no negative talk regarding this trade
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 17, 2016, 09:22:52 AM
roob knows whats up

QuoteWatch him actually play instead of just blindly following some tired fan narrative. Kelly is a fine NFL backup.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2016, 10:02:45 AM
Oh now you give Roob some dap and he's not some mouthpiece on this take eh?
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 17, 2016, 10:51:50 AM
I give him dap when he says something that is correct....I don't think roob is an idiot hes just normally homertastic...in this case hes talking about a player who has left which takes his bias out of it
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 27, 2016, 08:07:01 PM
That right there is why picking this guy up was a brilliant move.  Preseason and whatever but still.  Wow.   Get some, DGB. 
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on August 27, 2016, 08:31:12 PM
For some reason he reminds me of Voodoo from FNL
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 28, 2016, 11:06:04 AM
he's blacker than midnite
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 29, 2016, 10:06:22 AM
How do you like DGB so far?
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 29, 2016, 10:09:02 AM
best thing hes done all year is run 70 yards with sproles into the end zone...and im not kidding

for a guy who has had effort issues that was a great sign
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 29, 2016, 10:17:29 AM
My overall impression is "> Dennis Kelly". I also like that his presence means fewer plays where I have to watch Josh Huff try in vain to get separation.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 29, 2016, 05:35:50 PM
Yeah I think he's going to eventually pan out and really become an asset especially in the red zone
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on September 29, 2016, 08:17:09 PM
I remember igy saying how he looked like a man amongst boys during one preseason game.  Dude is a beast,  he still looks like a man out there with children.  That dropped TD Sunday was ugly but hopefully he's just getting into the rhythm of this offense.  Red zone wet dreams. 
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Butchers Bill on September 29, 2016, 09:27:40 PM
The offense is only what, a month old to this kid?  I like what I see so far, and am hoping he can be the "stretch the field" guy later this season.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 29, 2016, 09:36:22 PM
Agreed

I also think he's in a stable situation for him. Pederson, Greg Lewis and Matthews seem to have him focused
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 29, 2016, 09:50:47 PM
not focused on the ball yet...he's had some bad drops including two last week
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 29, 2016, 10:03:54 PM
He's apparently doing well enough in practice that they're getting him meaningful snaps in game and throwing the ball his way a few times. The production isn't there yet, but this is still a far better result than him being buried on the depth chart, inactive, or flat out released. Baby steps with this kid.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 30, 2016, 08:53:42 AM
if this kid catches on and gets in a zone with wentz, lookout. will also allow the team to focus more on oline or cb in the 1st round of next year's draft.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 30, 2016, 09:07:12 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 29, 2016, 09:50:47 PM
not focused on the ball yet...he's had some bad drops including two last week

Give the guy a break.  He's just trying to fit in with his teammates. 
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 30, 2016, 09:14:00 AM
awwww po wittle baby is twyin to make fwends
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 30, 2016, 09:16:33 AM
He's got his hands full with that. 
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 30, 2016, 09:20:56 AM
hopefully he'll get a grasp on the offense.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 30, 2016, 12:08:48 PM
They're all doing their best with juggling their professional and personal lives.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on September 30, 2016, 12:13:49 PM
I'd say you should all be ashamed of yourselves...but I'm aware that shame doesn't exist here.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 30, 2016, 12:20:07 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on September 30, 2016, 12:13:49 PM
I'd say you should all be ashamed of yourselves...but I'm aware that shame doesn't exist here.

sorry, I got caught up, in the moment.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on September 30, 2016, 01:16:41 PM
Drop it.
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on September 30, 2016, 01:27:00 PM
I have to hand it to you guys, you've done a great job with these. 
Title: Re: Dorial Green-Beckham, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 30, 2016, 01:29:00 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on September 30, 2016, 01:16:41 PM
Drop it.

you're right, I shouldn't hold on to it.