DE from Florida
6.5 sacks last year
the ultimate project and another guy who spits on culture
is Howie doing this on purpose to farg chip?
He was kicked off he team
Igy is gonna need a private moment in the bar bathroom
6'6 239
Eeew
Missed Tyler Matakevich because of a questionable project DE. Brilliant.
matakevich is garbage...mccallister might be as well but at least he has some real good upside and more importantly can be improved a lot and improved with something as simple as getting bigger
frankly matakevich is someone chip would have picked and I for one am glad we are back to drafting talent over whatever the hell matakevich possesses
In 2015:
- AAC Defensive Player of the Year
- Bronko Nagurski Trophy
- Chuck Bednarik Award
- Consensus All-American
- Broke Temple's record for career tackles
But yeah, he's garbage.
I'm not saying that he's the best of the draft - or even close to it - but he has a drive, a work ethic, and leadership qualities that is sorely needed by many NFL teams. In the middle of the 7th round, he's a bargain. Even if he's just a special teams or situational guy, he is far from garbage, and I have no doubt that he's contribute more than a project DE who couldn't even stay on his own college roster.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 03, 2016, 09:38:04 AM
In 2015:
- AAC Defensive Player of the Year
- Bronko Nagurski Trophy
- Chuck Bednarik Award
- Consensus All-American
- Broke Temple's record for career tackles
But yeah, he's garbage.
there are really good college players all over the country who cant play in the nfl
the good news for you is that the eagles will have a shot at matakevich when pittsburgh cuts him
I suppose. But hey...let's look at all those other recipients over the years. Those seem to mostly be really good college players who did okay in the NFL.
Nagursky Award:
2014 Scooby Wright
2013 Aaron Donald
2012 Manti Teo
2011 Luke Kuechly
2010 DaQuan Bowers
2009 Ndamukong Suh
2008 Brian Orakpo
2007 Glenn Dorsey
2006 James Laurinaitis
2005 Elvis Dumervil
2004 Derrick Johnson
2003 Derrick Strait
2002 Terrell Suggs
2001 Roy Williams
2000 Dan Morgan
1999 Corey Moore
1998 Champ Bailey
1997 Charles Woodson
1996 Pat Fitzgerald
1995 Pat Fitzgerald
1994 Warren Sapp
1993 Rob Waldrop
Bednarik Award:
2014 Scooby Wright
2013 Aaron Donald
2012 Manti Teo
2011 Tyrann Mathieu
2010 Patrick Peterson
2009 Ndamukong Suh
2008 Rey Maualuga
2007 Dan Connor
2006 Paul Posluszny
2005 Paul Posluszny
2004 David Pollack
2003 Teddy Lehman
2002 E.J. Henderson
2001 Julius Peppers
2000 Dan Morgan
1999 Lavar Arrington
1998 Dat Nguyen
1997 Charles Woodson
1996 Pat Fitzgerald
1995 Pat Fitzgerald
The point being that there's a decent chance that somebody on both of those lists, plus having other accolades, will probably contribute more than a punk development project who wasn't even allowed to finish his college career.
yeah but he's white. sooooo ...
Just based on this thread, I am predicting that McCalister will be the only Pro Bowler the Eaglers picked in this draft.
so we should start ripping wentz apart in his thread ?
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 03, 2016, 11:08:43 AM
The point being that there's a decent chance that somebody on both of those lists, plus having other accolades, will probably contribute more than a punk development project who wasn't even allowed to finish his college career.
you are getting it all backwards...players are on those lists mostly because you are a good nfl prospect you aren't a good prospect because you are on one of those lists
unless you can show me all the small slow 7th round linebackers that made those lists and contributed in the nfl
if your philosophy is culture over talent or youd rather have the odds that matakevich sticks as special teamer versus mccalister becoming a good pass rusher in a couple of years then that's fair...but referring to the bronco nagursky award is silly
there are matakevichs all over UDFA there isn't mccalisters pass rushing talent body and upside out there
Normally I am in favor of drafting guys who exhibit on-field production over a project.
However in this case I don't think Matakevich suits the system the Eagles will run. He seems like he will be more of a two down thumper - not sure if he can run and cover.
I know because hes white slow and has a name that ends "vich" people think that means hes automatically super physical tough and knocks helmets off but its not the case....hes not a "thumper" at all
in fact hes small and not strong....his instincts were fabulous in reading plays and he was a really good at wrapping guys up but if he ever plays in the nfl his ass is going to get run thru over and around....that if hes even able to get off blocks to attempt a tackle something I have no idea how hed do at this level
he'll be a special teams player at best. can we stop now ?
Absolutely.
Back to the player named in the subject...I'm sure that we are all anxiously looking forward to this young man's eventual rise to greatness.
"possible" rise to greatness
What, it isn't a sure thing? Then why the hell did they draft him instead of that white guy?
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2016, 02:25:09 PM
I know because hes white slow and has a name that ends "vich" people think that means hes automatically super physical tough and knocks helmets off but its not the case....hes not a "thumper" at all
in fact hes small and not strong....his instincts were fabulous in reading plays and he was a really good at wrapping guys up but if he ever plays in the nfl his ass is going to get run thru over and around....that if hes even able to get off blocks to attempt a tackle something I have no idea how hed do at this level
Which team do you scout for again?
You forget - I watch college ball too. You're not the only one who see these dudes play.
Quote from: smeags on May 03, 2016, 03:03:29 PM
he'll be a special teams player at best. can we stop now ?
lol
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2016, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2016, 02:25:09 PM
I know because hes white slow and has a name that ends "vich" people think that means hes automatically super physical tough and knocks helmets off but its not the case....hes not a "thumper" at all
in fact hes small and not strong....his instincts were fabulous in reading plays and he was a really good at wrapping guys up but if he ever plays in the nfl his ass is going to get run thru over and around....that if hes even able to get off blocks to attempt a tackle something I have no idea how hed do at this level
Which team do you scout for again?
You forget - I watch college ball too. You're not the only one who see these dudes play.
you watch it but you don't watch it watch it....and really youd be better off admitting that instead of continually saying a player is one thing when hes the exact opposite...I mean calling matakevich a thumper is just ludicrous
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2016, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2016, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2016, 02:25:09 PM
I know because hes white slow and has a name that ends "vich" people think that means hes automatically super physical tough and knocks helmets off but its not the case....hes not a "thumper" at all
in fact hes small and not strong....his instincts were fabulous in reading plays and he was a really good at wrapping guys up but if he ever plays in the nfl his ass is going to get run thru over and around....that if hes even able to get off blocks to attempt a tackle something I have no idea how hed do at this level
Which team do you scout for again?
You forget - I watch college ball too. You're not the only one who see these dudes play.
you watch it but you don't watch it watch it....and really youd be better off admitting that instead of continually saying a player is one thing when hes the exact opposite...I mean calling matakevich a thumper is just ludicrous
I don't watch it at all and I know as little as either of you, or even both together. You farging idiots.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2016, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2016, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2016, 02:25:09 PM
I know because hes white slow and has a name that ends "vich" people think that means hes automatically super physical tough and knocks helmets off but its not the case....hes not a "thumper" at all
in fact hes small and not strong....his instincts were fabulous in reading plays and he was a really good at wrapping guys up but if he ever plays in the nfl his ass is going to get run thru over and around....that if hes even able to get off blocks to attempt a tackle something I have no idea how hed do at this level
Which team do you scout for again?
You forget - I watch college ball too. You're not the only one who see these dudes play.
you watch it but you don't watch it watch it....and really youd be better off admitting that instead of continually saying a player is one thing when hes the exact opposite...I mean calling matakevich a thumper is just ludicrous
I...I...yeah you know what? Nevermind
I don't think anybody's calling a thumper. But calling him garbage is insane.
Anyway, I hope McCallister's shenanigans are behind him and that his athletic ability helps him succeed.
I said I saw him as more of a downhill thumper aka in the box Lb and not gonna be able to carry an NFL TE or RB down the field if he had to regularly.
But I don't watch watch really watch college enough
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
Anyway, I hope he does well, too.
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/4/47/Thumperdisney.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20120817234751)
I senselessly killed three rabbits near my house last night, all because of this thread.
are you all proud now ?
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 03, 2016, 09:21:44 PM
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This made me laugh.
How many rabbits does it take to change a light bulb?
One if he hops right to it.
I for one hope this fine young Irish lad does well for the eagles.