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Title: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on March 09, 2016, 11:56:27 AM
multi-year deal. Bye Mark
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on March 09, 2016, 11:57:45 AM
We won't have buttfumble to push around any more.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 09, 2016, 12:03:39 PM
Someone check on J?
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 09, 2016, 12:06:47 PM
o/u for what date j calls for daniels over bradford
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 09, 2016, 12:07:59 PM
he doesn't like daniel either

it was sanchez or bust with him

now its.....

Quote from: SD on March 09, 2016, 12:03:39 PM
Someone check on J
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 09, 2016, 12:08:12 PM
Quote from: SD on March 09, 2016, 12:03:39 PM
Someone check on J?

Lol
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 09, 2016, 12:31:55 PM
wonder if butt fumble has any trade value. Usually we'd all laugh at that notion but I didn't think Murray/Maxwell would garner anything of value
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 09, 2016, 12:32:03 PM
I have no idea if this guy is worth anything but he is the new coach's guy, and he isn't Mark f'n Sanchez so I approve. 
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2016, 01:06:14 PM
I don't care for Daniel...wasn't for Sanchez (only over Bradford)

But yeah...Daniel will be starting soon enough when Bradford gets hurt and/or sucks
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on March 09, 2016, 03:26:54 PM
I think Sanchez does have trade value... the QB options out there are terrible and it's a fat cap year so maybe there's a team out there that won't mind paying the man.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 09, 2016, 03:30:05 PM
J, the Eagles could actually keep Sanchez to back up Daniels and also trade Bradford now without taking any cap hit in the long run, so there is that.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 09, 2016, 04:08:43 PM
3/21

12 guar

huh
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Butchers Bill on March 09, 2016, 04:14:10 PM
Ike Reese stirring the pot saying Bradford may be on the move.  I can't see that, but it would completely eradicate Chippah's stain on the organization.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on March 09, 2016, 04:15:47 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 09, 2016, 04:08:43 PM
3/21

12 guar

huh

Makes this seem like more of a thing...

Quote from: Eagaholic on March 09, 2016, 03:30:05 PM
J, the Eagles could actually keep Sanchez to back up Daniels and also trade Bradford now without taking any cap hit in the long run, so there is that.

Edit: BB beat me to it.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 09, 2016, 04:41:17 PM
or maybe Daniel is
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AshishPatel81 on March 09, 2016, 05:04:35 PM
Will be interesting to see what the Eagles do if one of the top two QBs start to fall in the draft.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2016, 05:17:50 PM
Trade Bradford for a goddamn 2nd rounder
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 09, 2016, 05:23:12 PM
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on March 09, 2016, 05:04:35 PM
Will be interesting to see what the Eagles do if one of the top two QBs start to fall in the draft.
My thought, too. Bradford's signing bonus was structured so that the first half would pay in several days from now (2nd half in Sept), so they'd be off the hook for it all if they trade him soon, or eat $5.5m if they wait til the draft and take a QB then and trade Bradford. But presumably they'd get a decent pick back in a trade for losing that $5.5m so theoretically it wouldn't be bad at, and it would save $30 million in Bradford's salary. So, Howie may have been thinking along those lines as well.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 09, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2016, 05:17:50 PM
Trade Bradford for a goddamn 2nd rounder
To Miami!
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2016, 05:31:28 PM
AJ Feeley today is better than Bradford!
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 09, 2016, 05:43:57 PM
Actually, last year the Browns were going to give up a 1 or trade places in the 1st or something for Bradford, right? I don't think his stock has changed that much.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on March 09, 2016, 05:46:51 PM
Bradford and the 8 for 2 and every scrap of evidence of last year's shteinshow would be gone.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 09, 2016, 06:20:04 PM
Boom. That would be farging mind blowing and I'd like to see it. Who would have thought, even just a few days ago? I'd be happy to see them get Wentz or Goff and you have to think Peterson would love to get his guy in the draft and mold him. Only problem is Cle can get pick of the litter at QB, too. Depends how much they believe in Bradford.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on March 09, 2016, 10:04:16 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 09, 2016, 04:08:43 PM
3/21

12 guar

huh

$3M signing bonus (cap hit of $1M/year)
2016 = $1M (fully guaranteed) + $3M roster bonus
2017 = $7M ($5M guaranteed) + up to $6M in incentives
2018 = $7M (none guaranteed) + up to $6M in incentives
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 09, 2016, 11:54:39 PM
so basically that 3rd year isnt happening unless doug's wet dream of him being a starter becomes reality
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on March 10, 2016, 12:00:41 AM
Quote from: MDS on March 09, 2016, 11:54:39 PM
so basically that 3rd year isnt happening unless doug's wet dream of reaching a third season as head coach becomes reality
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on March 10, 2016, 07:26:11 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 09, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2016, 05:17:50 PM
Trade Bradford for a goddamn 2nd rounder
To Miami!

How about to Denver? They're now desperate for a starter - their current targets might be Bob or Kap. Bradford has to be a better bet than either of those two. The last pick in the 1st would be pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on March 10, 2016, 08:20:45 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2016, 05:31:28 PM
AJ Feeley today is better than Bradford!

Bait right ?
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 10, 2016, 09:15:11 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 09, 2016, 05:43:57 PM
Actually, last year the Browns were going to give up a 1 or trade places in the 1st or something for Bradford, right? I don't think his stock has changed that much.

his stock is way up....remember last year at this time he hadn't played a snap in the nfl for two years
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 10, 2016, 10:11:53 AM
Cleveland isn't even stupid enough to do that. 

Still...
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on March 10, 2016, 10:25:23 AM
I don't even think it would be that stupid for them. A competent starting QB while keeping a top ten pick? Doesn't strike me as the most insane idea for either team.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on March 13, 2017, 10:09:45 AM
ESPN's Adam Caplan reports the Eagles are expected to release QB Chase Daniel on Monday.

Daniel reportedly requested his release, and the Eagles are going to oblige. Philadelphia tried to trade Daniel before free agency, but they were unable to find any takers. Cutting Daniel will save the Eagles just $1 million against the cap while trading him would have resulted in a $6 million savings. Philly will certainly be working the phones hard to find anyone willing to take on Daniel's contract before they make the cut official.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 13, 2017, 10:14:11 AM
basically they signed nick foles for 6 million dollars worth of dead cap space

why?

because doug pederson likes chase daniel
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on March 13, 2017, 10:18:50 AM
i read something about "offset language" in daniel's contract...and the eagles will "get back whatever his next team pays him".  idk how true it is.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on March 13, 2017, 10:20:27 AM
it was a twat. 

Eagles owe him $5m guaranteed but he has offset language, so they'll save whatever his next team pays him. https://t.co/MOjdS886Qv

— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) March 13, 2017
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 13, 2017, 11:59:11 AM
So if he's a total dick he'll take the league minimum to go back to KC?
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 13, 2017, 01:32:48 PM
All time bad contract here.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 13, 2017, 01:48:16 PM
Not for a starter, it wasn't. 
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 13, 2017, 01:56:49 PM
They gave Foles 2 years $11 million, that's an almost equally bad contract as they gave to Daniel. Don't see the point of making the change. If Daniel is unhappy boo farging hoo
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 13, 2017, 02:11:01 PM
$20M is the going rate for a starter these days.  $5.5M is chump change for a #2.  I'm not saying Foles is worth that, but that's what clipboard holders are getting paid. 
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 13, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
Considering the offset of signing Foles and releasing Daniel what was the purpose of this move? Foles is no better or worse than Daniel.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 13, 2017, 03:11:23 PM
Quote from: Rome on March 13, 2017, 02:11:01 PM
$20M is the going rate for a starter these days.  $5.5M is chump change for a #2.  I'm not saying Foles is worth that, but that's what clipboard holders are getting paid.

its on the high end for a backup but foles has plenty of starting experience, so it comes with the territory

they could pay thad jones less than a mil to be the backup but thad jones has a 0% chance of winning a game should wentz get hurt. foles is...i guess sort of competent? in the least youd expect him to hold the fort down for a bit.

i would allocate my resources elsewhere if i were running a team, but i understand the need for an insurance option, especially when youre not even paying the starter that much.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 13, 2017, 03:14:13 PM
Quote from: SD on March 13, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
Considering the offset of signing Foles and releasing Daniel what was the purpose of this move? Foles is no better or worse than Daniel.

Daniel asked to be released. Guess he thinks he can start somewhere.  Eagles had the opportunity to oblige his request while signing a replacement who is also experienced in the offense. Might not be any net gain,but there's no loss either....though I think they did manage to slightly improve their backup position. 
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 13, 2017, 06:20:17 PM
I'm pleased.  Foles is a better QB.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on March 13, 2017, 06:39:49 PM
My girl was asking about Foles of all people just last night. She asked if he was still playing.

I guess I have to give her an update.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 13, 2017, 06:40:46 PM
I'll give her an update.
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on March 13, 2017, 06:42:14 PM
You will do nothing of the sort!
Title: Re: Chase Daniel, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 13, 2017, 06:53:59 PM
bye