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Sign Bradford to a multiyear deal, draft a QB in the middle rounds with some faint hope he can eventually develop into something.

Can't afford to franchise him. Unlikely to get a QB as good and ready to operate in the Eagles system in either free agency or the draft.

Not only do I think this is the right thing to do, but I think this is what they will do, unless Bradford wants out or another team hugely overpays him.

As much as it's gonna sicken most of the fan base, I think it's going to be Kaep or RGIII after they're dumped and Bradford ends up in Houston

When is the last time a team actually wanted to bring a starting QB back and he bolted for another team in free agency? Feels like it's been a while.

Asking myself what the stupidest thing Chip could do last year paid off when they got Bradford, so I'm on board for Kaep.

other - fire chip

Phreak, are you still wanting Trevone Boykin? I wouldn't mind him in Round 6 or 7 but I don't see him starting for anyone next year. Although he could probably start at WR on the Eagles right away.

I really don't give a shtein who the qb is as long as Chip is still around.

#1 Fire Bill Davis
#2 Sign Bradford to a 3 year deal. If this can be done explore option #3 if not franchise the Hoyda
#3 Attempt to deal him. If you can deal him bring in Kap.
#4 Draft offensive lineman in the first and 3rd round.
#5 Fill Murray with drugs that cause him to get into a motorcycle accident that ends his career(this vanquishes our liability with his contract)
#6 Pray our defensive woes are scheme related/ Kiko gets good again and Hicks can stay healthy for the first time ever in his life.

Is Cardale Jones coming out?

If the answer to that question is yes. I do whatever it takes to sign Bradford then try to get CJ. I don't care what happened this year he is an NFL QB. He is a Big Ben Cam Newton Hybrid.

such a dumb question....bradford long term deal is the only option....then spend the entire offseason on WR and OL

The are actually lots of options. Like for example, how about we run a toss play?

if the guy who traded a starting qb and a second and a fourth for Bradford is back and Bradford isn't then throw the whole franchise into a volcano

Quote from: Chameleon on December 28, 2015, 01:24:15 AM
The are actually lots of options. Like for example, how about we run a toss play?

LOL!  Play of the year.

Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 27, 2015, 11:56:04 PM
I really don't give a shtein who the qb is as long as Chip is still around.

Pretty much this.

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 28, 2015, 01:40:36 AM
if the guy who traded a starting qb and a second and a fourth for Bradford is back and Bradford isn't then throw the whole franchise into a volcano

Chip would never throw away a good player for failing to meet his expectations. No sir.

I would try to give Bradford a 2-4 year deal.   His play style aggravates me somewhat (constant checkdowns when down big) but I thought he was pretty good, again, Saturday.  He's never going to be a top-8 QB, but the last 6 games he played he was probably in the 12-15 range, which means they have much larger issues elsewhere to address.

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 28, 2015, 01:18:16 AM
such a dumb question....bradford long term deal is the only option....then spend the entire offseason on WR and OL

Discussion provoking question on a discussion board...whodathunkit

Quote from: QB Eagles on December 27, 2015, 10:43:24 PM
Phreak, are you still wanting Trevone Boykin? I wouldn't mind him in Round 6 or 7 but I don't see him starting for anyone next year. Although he could probably start at WR on the Eagles right away.

Yes I want him in the late rounds for sure. I'd also wouldn't mind Cardale Jones.

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 28, 2015, 01:18:16 AM
such a dumb question....bradford long term deal is the only option....then spend the entire offseason on WR and OL

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 28, 2015, 01:40:36 AM
if the guy who traded a starting qb and a second and a fourth for Bradford is back and Bradford isn't then throw the whole franchise into a volcano

I wouldn't call this a dumb question because Bradford hardly lit the world on fire, but the rest of this is accurate.

I would love to see a QB who can actually move on this team, but the draft needs to be OL and free agency needs to be WR.

You can't let one negative estimated value move lead to more negative estimated value moves. That is fish thinking.

Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 28, 2015, 08:51:49 AM
I would try to give Bradford a 2-4 year deal.   His play style aggravates me somewhat (constant checkdowns when down big) but I thought he was pretty good, again, Saturday.  He's never going to be a top-8 QB, but the last 6 games he played he was probably in the 12-15 range, which means they have much larger issues elsewhere to address.

i think he pretty easily could be a top 10 qb with weapons...its taken him some time to get confidence in his knees back...learn a new system.... get his timing back...etc

and hes been steadily progressing...second year in the system a full season plus offseason farther away from the knee injuries with a massive upgrade in weaponry and I think you have a legit qb

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 28, 2015, 10:37:02 AM
Discussion provoking question on a discussion board...whodathunkit

im just saying if chip is here and i think we all agree he will be bradford HAS to be the qb...there are no other scenarios or discussion imo

Bradford is a deer with ticks caught in a tornado.  farg that loser.  I'd rather have Kapernick.  Or frankly anyone other than Sanchez and Bradford. 

kaep is roadkill. Yeah, he'll work out well here.

Tag Bradford. This franchise spends money on worse things so tagging him wouldn't be bad. If he does great, give him a 3-year deal. If he dies on the field, you can cut him or get him on the cheap the following season.

You give him an offseason and "try" obtaining a #1 WR and a better o-line. This should improve the offense tremendously. You still hunt for a long term option a QB via the draft and cross your fingers.

The franchise tag for QB is projected to be $19.75M next year. You guys are OK with that for Bradford?

im ok with paying him that over letting him go for nothing less than a year after you gave up your starting qb and two good draft picks for him

altho i cant imagine a scenario where they don't come to an extended agreement

I don't follow the salary cap system, so I have no idea what impact the following might make on the Eagles ability to field a team, but:

Tag Bradford.  Essentially, another one year try out for him.  If he continues to improve, then sign him to big deal.  If not, move on.

In the meantime, lose Sanchez.  Add someone from the draft and get RGIII as your #2.

Chip is heavily invested in Bradford already, so if chip is back (and he will be #sadface) then bradford has to come back at nearly any financial cost, even 19mil for 1 season. You don't give up a starting qb and a #2 and a #4 draft pick for a 1 year starter.

Bradford did make a ton of progress from week 1 until now and I don't feel like qb is a top need for this team.  I won't say he's my guy moving forward., but if nothing else he's a suitable bridge for a year or 2.  There's far too many other areas with greater needs. OL, WR, LB, CB are all a bigger needs than qb.

Quote from: BigEd76 on December 28, 2015, 05:23:33 PM
The franchise tag for QB is projected to be $19.75M next year. You guys are OK with that for Bradford?

I think that would be the non-exclusive tag too. Tack on another 5 million for the exclusive tag.

The reality is I think he'll sign a 3+ year deal, in the 15-18 million/year range. It can be structured so his cap hit for the season isn't nearly as unfriendly as the franchise tag. Eagles will probably be truly stuck with him for at least two of those years. Obviously not ideal but the QB market is a big seller's market this offseason. The Eagles are going to have to pay him more than he's demonstrated that he's worth and give him more years than any of us feel comfortable with. The other options are Sanchez or worse.

Quote from: Diomedes on December 28, 2015, 05:43:47 PM
In the meantime, lose Sanchez.  Add someone from the draft and get RGIII as your #2.

Swapping out Sanchez for RGIII seems unlikely. Sanchez comes relatively cheap compared to what they'd likely have to pay RGIII on the open market (and a trade means paying him $16.5 million). Combined with throwing more money at Bradford, this would mean the Eagles would be investing much more money in the QB position for no real improvement. Meanwhile by the end of the 2015 season, it was already a position of relative strength compared to other team needs.

I don't get the infatuation with Kap. Not sure if people have just not seen any 49er games since that Super Bowl a few years ago, or they are still wrapped up in the idea that Chip needs a mobile QB so he can finish implementing the Ducks offense. Maybe it's just another dumb idea the Philly media pumps. 2014-2015 Kap is a Tebow level passer, and he can't run like he used to either. Defenses have solved that 49ers pistol shtein even more dominantly than they've solved Chip's offense. Kap lost his job to Blaine Gabbert, who was a clear and immediate improvement. Think about that. His passer rating is just below that of Johnny Manziel, and he threw for about 90 yards less per game than slingin' Sam this year. Also we'd be back to the drawing board with another new QB in the system coming off a major surgery. If this was 2012, yes please to Kap. But it's 2016. I think even RGIII gives a team more hope.

The argument for Kap is that all his problems are actually because of the 49ers, both in terms of a poor line and poor receivers, and because it's become a mentally toxic place to be, and it's gotten to him. Even if you buy that (and clearly I don't), would the Eagles really be a significant change of scenery on those scores?

It won't matter who the starting quarterback is if they don't drastically improve the offensive line.

Quote from: Rome on December 28, 2015, 07:34:54 PM
It won't matter who the starting quarterback is if they don't drastically improve the wide receivers.

Both. Fix both of those, and we stand a fighting chance. Otherwise just mail it in.

chip could start by actually drafting another lineman.

chip didn't give up a starting qb in the deal to get bradford.  he gave up case keenum's backup.

Quote from: hunt on December 29, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
chip didn't give up a starting qb in the deal to get bradford.  he gave up case keenum's backup.

Yeah but he's one hellava backup.

Quote from: hunt on December 29, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
chip didn't give up a starting qb in the deal to get bradford.  he gave up case keenum's backup.

no one is saying hes been good with stl but he was in fact the eagles starting qb at the time of the trade

also he was just a year away from a 27 td 2 int season

Ooh, ooh.  A semantic argument with a hippo.  IN.

 Get yer popcorn ready, yo ! :crazy

nothing to argue, really.  foles was a bad starting qb when he was traded...and has proven to be more of a backup level talent.  whatever.

i'm cool with sam i am on a short term deal.  wr & oline need to be addressed before doing something crazy to acquire an upgrade at qb, imo.  he'll be back if he wants to be.

i don't like rg-knee or the bicep kisser but if they're somehow available for cheap w/o having to give anything up...sure, why the hell not.

I want no parts of kaep or rg3. Don't think either have anything to offer really and neither would work well in this city.

Quote from: smeags on December 29, 2015, 11:13:01 AM
I want no parts of kaep or rg3. Don't think either have anything to offer really and neither would work well in this city.

not even for lulz alone?   :-D
maybe work a deal for johnny football as well?  :paranoid

Oh it would entertaining for sure, in a train wreck kind a way.

RGIII is a flat out no. He's physically fragile and mentally as soft as I've ever seen.

Kap is a dumpster fire but still a little intriguing. He has all of the physical traits that you'd think chip would covet. It's really just a matter of whether or not he can learn to throw. He's basically Tebow but less Jesusy. I wouldn't be mad if he were brought in to be the back up, but def not the starter....unless he actually earns the job in camp.

Kap certainly has more upside than rgme. No doubt.

i think whoever is a worse qb right now would have the most upside i just dont know who that is

RGIII was benched partly due to his horrible cancerous personality and partly due to his injuries, in addition to his fading talent. Plus he was benched for a guy who is seemingly okay.

Kap was benched solely because his talent had declined to the point where it was demonstrably less than Blaine Gabbert's talent. Blaine Gabbert is  statistically one of the worst starting QBs of the last decade.

So if you're talking pure talent, maybe Griffin has more left, but if you're worried about the overall impact on your team, take Kap?

Not a lot of reasons to think either of them would be better than Sam Bradford. In fact, there's not a lot of reasons to think either of them would be better than Mark Sanchez. Basically it's just Eagle fan desperation for a well above average QB, which is something the Eagles have little to no opportunity to obtain between now and next season.

Alright so Chip is gone now.

Everyone still think the same?

Everything changed. No way Bradford stays.

bradford could easily still come back but now its understandable if he doesnt

I would think it makes Bradford an even better fit with a traditional offense, but I do feel bad for the dude having to learn a new system again regardless.

Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 29, 2015, 10:52:57 PM
I would think it makes Bradford an even better fit with a traditional offense, but I do feel bad for the dude having to learn a new system again regardless.

feel bad? dude has made like 60 mil in his career and done nothing

It's regrettable for his career after he started playing well here.  Obviously I'm not holding a candlelight vigil.

i still want him back.  maybe i don't know what i'm looking at but he was really good the last half of the season.  he came off of a 2 year hiatus due to injury and was shaky but played better as he went.  with anybody that could catch a farging ball he would have much better numbers.

Yeah, I don't see a better option either.  With Chip gone, I feel better about signing him to a real deal because I think a more conventional/professional coach can work with a Sam Bradford.

The one thing I don't get about Bradford is the drops.  His entire career guys have dropped a lot of his passes that seemed catchable and I suspect it has something to do with him.

Quote from: Diomedes on December 30, 2015, 11:15:57 AM
The one thing I don't get about Bradford is the drops.  His entire career guys have dropped a lot of his passes that seemed catchable and I suspect it has something to do with him.

Yep, that's been bugging me. We all watched that highlight reel of him with the Rams. He put the ball where it needed to be, but guys seemed to have problems catching it. I felt sure that it was the receivers, but after watching the same process here, it's a bit of a head scratcher.

Bradford had crap receivers in StL and again in Philly. The end.

dont want to try and make him into joe montana or something by blaming everything but him but the stl OL was also beyond bad

bottom line is they have a potential qb of the future on their roster right now

I don't know if he's a franchise guy or not, but I know he got progressively better as the year went on. He still made a few horrible throws/decisions, but all in all, I don't hate him yet.  And even with chip gone, it's not like the Eagles get those draft picks back, so it's still probably in the franchise's best interest to keep him at least for 1 more year, probably even 2. Lurie is still heavily invested in Bradford, whether he wants to be or not.

hes not a franchise qb....but you just need to find a qb who can win a superbowl...i think he can do that

makes sense to re-sign him. one less need to look for in the draft and/or the FA market.

All you'll do by keeping Bradford is make the team mediocre enough that they'll never be able to draft a potentially great quarterback.

How about using a transition tag on him? It's a little cheaper than a franchise tag, and it at least lets the market set the value (and gives the Eagles right of first refusal).

Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 30, 2015, 01:39:39 PM
How about using a transition tag on him? It's a little cheaper than a franchise tag, and it at least lets the market set the value (and gives the Eagles right of first refusal).

The non-exclusive franchise tag has the same features, costs only slightly more (maybe 2 million), and gives the Eagles two first-round draft picks if he leaves (instead of the nothing they would get via the transition tag). Also it would piss off Bradford less.

If they want to keep him (and I have no idea what the new regime will want), I still think they are more likely to reach a multiyear deal with him.

It also guarantees that he stays. Nobody will give up two firsts for the guy. Transition makes him a little more valuable to other teams, letting the marked decide what becomes of him.

Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 30, 2015, 02:02:31 PM
Nobody will give up two firsts for the guy.

let's wait and see where Chip ends up first

LOL...good point.

Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 30, 2015, 02:02:31 PM
It also guarantees that he stays. Nobody will give up two firsts for the guy. Transition makes him a little more valuable to other teams, letting the marked decide what becomes of him.

They can always trade him after that point. The Patriots pulled that with Matt Cassel. There will be demand for Bradford, teams are desperate for semi-decent QBs.

I suppose it all depends on how "semi" he looks to other coaches.

if i had to guess, id say they let bradford go. why? howie.

no matter how you shake it, hes making the ultimate call on PP. howie HATES chip. hes going to rid the roster of every last chip guy as quickly as is feasible. the josh huff's and taylor hart's of the world can be simply cut...riley cooper they were probably going to move on from anyway....but howie is going to prove to everyone he can win and hes not going to do it with chip kelly's roster or qb.

Without getting into the merits of a site like PFF, they graded Bradford as the 12th best QB this year.  In a quarterback desperate league there will be a market for him.

Quote from: MDS on December 30, 2015, 02:54:42 PM
if i had to guess, id say they let bradford go. why? howie.

no matter how you shake it, hes making the ultimate call on PP. howie HATES chip. hes going to rid the roster of every last chip guy as quickly as is feasible. the josh huff's and taylor hart's of the world can be simply cut...riley cooper they were probably going to move on from anyway....but howie is going to prove to everyone he can win and hes not going to do it with chip kelly's roster or qb.

I feel like if howie hated him that much he wouldn't have worked in the same building with him for the last year...I don't see Howie as a grudge holder like that...I see a nerd...any vindictiveness he had for chip should have ended yesterday evening...plus you can make the reverse argument...you can say hed love to take a qb chip couldn't win with and one up him by building a successful team around bradford

in the end Howie seems like a pretty pragmatic guy...who is going to put together the best roster possible regardless of whose players they are because he cares more about the Philadelphia eagles than he does himself much less chip...now most chip players on the roster are not good so by default many will be gone...perhaps that includes Bradford in howies mind but ic ant see him getting rid of a qb he thinks is good just because its chips guy...that's banner to me not howie

Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 30, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
Without getting into the merits of a site like PFF, they graded Bradford as the 12th best QB this year.  In a quarterback desperate league there will be a market for him.

The only team that's really a "QB away" from being a legit contender is the Texans, maybe the Jets if Fitzpatrick bolts.  Everywhere else he would be a stop-gap (which no one will give up much for) or a backup (where you won't get anything for him).

if you like Bradford its not about being a qb away...its about getting a legit nfl qb that you think you can win with....bradford isn't even 30...hes going to play for at least another 5-6 years...peyton manning was more of an example of what you are saying

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 30, 2015, 03:51:06 PM
if you like Bradford its not about being a qb away...its about getting a legit nfl qb that you think you can win with....bradford isn't even 30...hes going to play for at least another 5-6 years...peyton manning was more of an example of what you are saying

Fair point, but all the other teams have entrenched starters or projects in place.  Bradford is a level or two above all the slop the Texans have rolled out this year.

agree with that....you gotta have teams who think Bradford is a significant upgrade over what they have now...i guess I think there are more of those than you do

The Browns and 49ers come to mind.

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 30, 2015, 03:51:06 PM
if you like Bradford its not about being a qb away...its about getting a legit nfl qb that you think you can win with....bradford isn't even 30...hes going to play for at least another 5-6 years...peyton manning was more of an example of what you are saying

Or Brees this year if the saints let go of him with his cap figure.

yup same exact thing

Quote from: MDS on December 30, 2015, 02:54:42 PM
but howie is going to prove to everyone he can win and hes not going to do it with chip kelly's roster or qb.

I'd be real upset about that if Chip hadn't completely gutted the roster of talent.

Quote from: QB Eagles on December 30, 2015, 04:20:10 PM
The Browns and 49ers come to mind.

Neither of those will want to bring in an almost 30 year old Bradford.

Quote from: Butchers Bill on December 30, 2015, 05:30:40 PM

Quote from: QB Eagles on December 30, 2015, 04:20:10 PM
The Browns and 49ers come to mind.

Neither of those will want to bring in an almost 30 year old Bradford.

30 isn't even close to old for a qb much less "almost 30" aka 28....and you are acting like there are good quarterbacks all over the nfl just waiting around for teams to come and get them...in fact while I don't believe they would have traded a one for him there were rumors the browns offered that for Bradford....either way clearly they had a lot of interest

in almost any year 2016 sam bradford is going to be the best qb on the FA market...you highly underestimate the interest he would draw

teams in desperate need of a qb:
texans
browns

teams that might look for an upgrade:
jets
bills
49ers
rams (obvs not bradford)

teams that have qbs with expiring deals:
washington
broncos
j's eagles

id say theres going to be some significant interest in sammy

id be really surprised if osweiler cousins or bradford hits the open market

I don't see BO or You Like That hitting the market

If Bradford doesn't like who they hire he could decide to go the FA route

What's the cap room available for next year?

I seriously can't believe you guys want Bradford back.  He sucks.  He's got a decent arm, absolutely no mobility and he looks scared shteinless when it hits the fan.

I agree that the line is a mess and the receivers suck but why waste that sort of money on a guy who is fragile physically and mentally and isn't a top notch guy to begin with?

Just saying, I don't see any future for him in Philly.  If he had a great line and even decent receivers, I'd be more willing to give him a shot, but with what they have now, why bother?

Browns have a draft position plus, and the need for a coach. If Kelly goes there, book them on gettin Jared Goff.

Quote from: Rome on December 30, 2015, 08:16:26 PM
He sucks.

If he had a great line and even decent receivers, I'd be more willing to give him a shot, but with what they have now, why bother?

its kind of obvious that no matter who the qb is we all are under the assumption that the line is going to be rebuilt and better wr's will be brought in

if you think bradford sucks then theres not much more to say...go with sanchez next year and hope you get someone better than bradford in 2017 2018 or 2019

i happen to think bradford is a good qb with still some ceiling plus you actually have him right now...you aren't hoping a miracle happens in the next few years and they get a franchise qb....a bird in the hand...

Some people think Bradford basically equals Sanchez. If Bradford looked the same all year as he did at the beginning of the season, I would agree.

Now I see him being more of an Alex Smith type who probably has another five years plus starting if he's not derailed by another devastating injury. He's not going to be a superstar, he's not going to be exciting, but he can be a stabilizing force for teams otherwise reeling at the QB position, one of which would be the Eagles. The stats weren't great, but in the second half of the season I didn't find myself thinking "wow what a terrible play by Bradford" any more often than I do when I watch a good QB. [They all have at least a couple of clunkers a game.] On the other hand, with Sanchez I wasn't even agreeing with half of his basic decisions, let alone his execution. It seemed like there was a big difference to me.

Quote from: QB Eagles on December 30, 2015, 10:58:43 PM
Some people think Bradford basically equals Sanchez.

I actually know this one guy who thinks sanchez is better

we can all go back n forth as to how good or bad Bradford is....but anyone who thinks sanchez is the same guy as Bradford should never watch football again

Hi.

Quote from: QB Eagles on December 30, 2015, 10:58:43 PM
Now I see him being more of an Alex Smith type who probably has another five years plus starting if he's not derailed by another devastating injury.

What are the odds he tears the same ACL a third time?

Quote from: General_Failure on December 30, 2015, 11:58:32 PM

Quote from: QB Eagles on December 30, 2015, 10:58:43 PM
Now I see him being more of an Alex Smith type who probably has another five years plus starting if he's not derailed by another devastating injury.

What are the odds he tears the same ACL a third time?

1 in 2, I beleive.

Gargano this morning is talking about a report that the birds are kicking the tires on RG3.

They'd be crazy to not take a look, at the very least. I'd hope that they aren't dumb enough to pull the trigger...but they should examine all the options.

RG3 makes McNabb look like a blue collar, thick-skinned, selfless, salt of the Earth dude. Philly would eat him alive.

yeah i would have tolerated his terrible personality in a chip kelly offense when it was needed, but not now.

That offense never really materialized anyway...and I don't think it was just because of the QB. WRs that couldn't catch didn't help. But it was a lot of vapor and fast-paced scenarios that led to a lot of punts.

I don't like looking at that poll, btw. A lot of depressing options.

If at the right price, sign him to four years.

Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on February 24, 2016, 07:41:35 AM
They'd be crazy to not take a look, at the very least. I'd hope that they aren't dumb enough to pull the trigger...but they should examine all the options.

They should take a look at RGIII to the same extent they should take a look at Johnny Football, Matt Schaub, Brandon Weeden, Matt Flynn, Josh Freeman... basically just look at the name, say "nope", and move on.

in the position the eagles are in you absolutely have to take a shot at him...im not saying move heaven and earth to get him but the guy just turned 26 last week and has really good upside....its a no lose situation really...id take a for real run at him

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 24, 2016, 10:06:15 AM
in the position the eagles are in you absolutely have to take a shot at him...im not saying move heaven and earth to get him but the guy just turned 26 last week and has really good upside....its a no lose situation really...id take a for real run at him

Talent wise I agree, but I just can't see his personality ever going over in Philly. Fans hate Mcnabb, they tolerated him because he won and won fast and played with heart. Don't know that RG3 has that in him.

rg3 did everything right last year in what was a situation where he could have gone off and tried to blow up the team...hes also still young where you can maybe give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to changing...which I will do right now because the eagles have no better options

with all these other off seasons deals its clear that Bradford is gone....sanchez farging blows...who the farg cares if rg3 comes in and is a twat....if the eagles were good and looking at rg3 as a back up id say why?...but they have absolutely nothing to lose taking a shot at a young high talent guy...if it doesn't work out then they are back where they started

agan I wouldn't go crazy trying to get him...but id take a serious shot at it

For the record, I'm on board with giving the guy another shot, for the reasons you mentioned. A one year prove it deal would be ideal. They "literally" have nothing at QB right now.

You have a hypothetical choice:
Bradford at $18 million

or

RG3 at $8-10 million

Who are you taking?

definitely bradford

my rg3 scenario is under the assumption that bradford is gone

Bradford. 

RGIII is back up material at best.

If they sign that assface I'm finished with this team. 

Errands > Eagles. 

Quote from: Rome on February 24, 2016, 01:25:06 PM
If they sign that assface I'm finished with this team. 

lol like the thousand other times you were finished with them?

zip it drama queen

I'll tell you what - put your money where your mouth is.

If they sign or trade for or acquire that POS, and he begins the season on the Eagles roster, I will quit this board forever.  I have $100 that says I will.  Are you willing to take that bet?

you didn't say the board you said the team...just like you have at least a 150 other times

I just read an article about the FA market for QBs.  Ugh.

Whatever happens, Sam Bradford has once again managed to come due a deal in a lucky year.  He's going to get overpaid again.

To me, when considering a QB the first thing you ask your self is "can this guy win a SB?" With Griffin I say no. With Bradford I'd say probably not, the stars would have to line up just right. He'd have to be on a team good enough to win it (unlike a Brady or Rodgers who might be able to carry a team and might not need a lot in the way of real weapons), and he'd have to stay healthy. I don't see it likely - he's too lanky and doesn't seem built for the NFL, but he has a better shot than RG.

jim macmahon
jim plunkett
trent dilfer
troy aikman
eli manning
joe flacco
joe theisman
brad johnson

won superbowls.....sam Bradford can definitely win one and probably rg3 as well

Peyton had the worst QB rating in the NFL this past season, tied with Ryan Mallett. In the Super Bowl he had 13 completions for 104 net passing yards even though he had Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders to throw to.

Pretty sure if you swapped him out for Bradford they still would have won. In fact, in Bradford's terrible game against the Panthers he had a higher passer rating than Manning in the SB.

Quote from: QB Eagles on February 28, 2016, 02:13:31 PM
Peyton had the worst QB rating in the NFL this past season, tied with Ryan Mallett. In the Super Bowl he had 13 completions for 104 net passing yards even though he had Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders to throw to.

Pretty sure if you swapped him out for Bradford they still would have won. In fact, in Bradford's terrible game against the Panthers he had a higher passer rating than Manning in the SB.

So what you're saying is don't bother paying Bradford anything and spend all the money on defense.

Quote from: General_Failure on February 28, 2016, 02:26:05 PMSo what you're saying is don't bother paying Bradford anything and spend all the money on defense.

Well, to get a dominant offense or defense that fits under the cap you need to successfully draft ~75% of the starters. So we're farged.

Heath Evans, so there!

QuoteAs for the offense, Evans was very complementary of Sam Bradford, saying the quarterback that Kelly acquired last offseason is absolutely the "answer" for the Eagles.

"The crap that Chip put him in, down-in and down-out, for him to produce what he produced this year was spectacular," Evans said. "I don't know what your opinion of Jeff Fisher is, but Jeff Fisher took that (Los Angeles) Rams job because of Bradford. You won't find a general manager in this league who knows what he's talking about that doesn't want Bradford as their quarterback."

Evans felt that Bradford's numbers could have been even better last season if it weren't the tempo Kelly made him play at.

"He processes information quick, he sees the field accurately," Evans said. "If Chip would have given Sam an extra five seconds at the line of scrimmage this year, just five seconds, and let him digest what he was seeing out there, they might have won ten games."

looks like things are about to get done with sammy b

nice