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Can the GM do it?
Cox and Logan are musts.
I'd like to see Thurmond and Carroll back - they're necessary pieces
I'd like Thornton back because he's good. He should be reasonable to re-sign. Bair is a good role guy but not sure if I want him starting. And Hart can go away.
lol
why is this its own thread
Why not?
Cox is legitimately good. Some of the other guys are pretty good. A lot of them are just serviceable. They were so bad the last few years, that even serviceable looks great. But don't be fooled...most of that crew isn't made up of worldbeaters.
What is Cox going to get guaranteed, $50M?
Quote from: Zanshin on October 30, 2015, 11:24:57 AM
Cox is legitimately good. Some of the other guys are pretty good. A lot of them are just serviceable. They were so bad the last few years, that even serviceable looks great. But don't be fooled...most of that crew isn't made up of worldbeaters.
100% agree on all of this...i will add that there is something to be said for continuity on a defense and understanding the system...for this reason i may slightly overpay for some of the other guys....specifically thurmond...he and jenkins arent necessarily studs but they are the kind of versatile guys who chip covets but who can also play a little and they both are perfect fits for as long as they run this defense
they also still need that classic edge rusher that the offense has to game plan for....graham sucks and they made a mistake cakin him off...the question is does chip believe in a one dimensionbal edge rusher or do his ends/olbs have to be able to drop and do other things
Quote from: Diomedes on October 30, 2015, 11:24:05 AM
Why not?
Because apparently mr mds thinks this isn't valid discussion. But he hates sports anyways so it doesn't matter what he says.
And why the lol for Thornton? Is he not a good player? I can't wait to hear how he sucks and of course that's wrong
he's fine but he's not anybody you ever care about signing or re-signing
thornton is ok...doesnt matter if he goes or not....but that wasnt what i was laughing at...i was laughing at your comment...you wrote it like a 9 year old kid was saying it...effin hilarious
He is because you know he's relatively young and still in his prime. Letting him go and hoping to replace him is stupid...you have a starting LDE here now. So why let him go?
his prime is an average player. take the wild chance you can upgrade that with a 5th round pick
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2015, 12:23:20 PM
they also still need that classic edge rusher that the offense has to game plan for....graham sucks and they made a mistake cakin him off...the question is does chip believe in a one dimensionbal edge rusher or do his ends/olbs have to be able to drop and do other things
Been waiting for one for years. DE has been a disaster since Jevon Kearse.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 30, 2015, 02:40:39 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on October 30, 2015, 11:24:05 AM
Why not?
Because apparently mr mds thinks this isn't valid discussion. But he hates sports anyways so it doesn't matter what he says.
And why the lol for Thornton? Is he not a good player? I can't wait to hear how he sucks and of course that's wrong
-not un discussion worthy but not thread worthy.
-igy handled it
All things in one thread like ES?
What else would you like to discuss during the bye week?
Some hot takes?
Has Chip said anything stupid lately? Or been fired?
He's probably watching Boykin tape
Quote from: SunMo on October 30, 2015, 02:59:56 PM
take the wild chance you can upgrade that with a 5th round pick
More like Chip takes the wild chance and drafts a marginal seventh rounder in the 5th because he has a torn achilles and a pony tail.
I don't like all this pessimism you guys have about Chip not being fired like he should be at the end of this season.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 31, 2015, 08:18:25 AM
I don't like all this pessimism you guys have about Chip not being fired like he should be at the end of this season.
lurie aint firing anyone until that korean Hoyda dry up
this is a good thread
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QuoteWhat the Eagles really are is a 6-9 team that's lost five of its last seven games, has allowed 38 or more points in three of its last four home games, has won just seven of 19 games since last year's 9-3 start, is on the brink of becoming the first team in NFL history to allow 6,000 yards three years in a row, that allowed a franchise-record 34 touchdown passes and lost games by 10, 11, 14, 23, 28 and 31 points.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 30, 2015, 11:00:13 AM
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Can the GM do it?
Cox and Logan are musts.
I'd like to see Thurmond and Carroll back - they're necessary pieces
I'd like Thornton back because he's good. He should be reasonable to re-sign. Bair is a good role guy but not sure if I want him starting. And Hart can go away.
this is a fun one
What amuses you igy junior?
1. "I like Thornton because he's good."
2. You posting this seconds before the defensive starting giving up 100 points per game
3. Lumping in Logan in the same breath as Fletch
4. Calling pedestrian players like Thurmond and Carroll "necessary pieces"
1. He is a good player
2. Billy Davis, injuries and Billy Davis were the problems
3. They are both integral pieces and need to be re-signed
4. Good glue players - solid starters who have a place on rosters. You aren't going to have super stars at every spot.
More than one superstar would be nice, however. Just for the heck of it, anyway.
It obviously wouldn't be a good idea to just blow the whole team up and start from scratch, given how Kelly has decimated both roster and the cap, and cast a pall over Philly as a FA destination spot. You'd be looking at a 3-4 year rebuild in a shtein division that's there for the taking now.
You need some continuity and stability for a foundation, and therefore need to keep some of the adequate players, and coaches that can get the best out of them. An argument to also keep Bradford by the way.
Another thing you need though is real leaders. Even a couple of them would be fine. Chip didn't like the idea of anyone but him as leader and when players stopped liking him and tuned him out he had nobody in the locker room to smack some heads when needed. I'd definitely hold on to guys like Ced and Curry unless there are others better and as cheap you can bring in here (unlikely).
Who on this defense truly couldn't work in a 4-3 scheme ?
Logan is a prototypical 3-4 lineman. But he might still work out inside of a 4-man line.
I think the transitition wouldn't be so difficult.
Anything to have less of these godawful linebackers on the field.
If this defense improves...I think it would be rather difficult to adjust to watching speedy, tackling defenders on the field. I don't know what I'd do if my blood pressure didn't spike every 30-40 seconds. What would come out of having a solid defense on the field for once, would be having 'Hope' for the future and I don't know if I'm built to handle that. Imagine that...Philadelphia with a stout Defense. Pfft. that's silly.
Quote from: hbionic on December 31, 2015, 03:58:37 PM
If this defense improves...I think it would be rather difficult to adjust to watching speedy, tackling defenders on the field. I don't know what I'd do if my blood pressure didn't spike every 30-40 seconds. What would come out of having a solid defense on the field for once, would be having 'Hope' for the future and I don't know if I'm built to handle that. Imagine that...Philadelphia with a stout Defense. Pfft. that's silly.
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Doesn't seem like there's any defense in the league that is particularly feared right now. A lot of the top defenses statwise are just the teams that barely played against any good offenses. No one has held opponents to under 17 points per game. First time that's happened in at least 15 years, and probably way more than that (I only looked back 15).
The Eagles defense is feared... by Eagles fans.
:-D :-D :-D
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 31, 2015, 08:04:48 PM
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Wait a second! Two legit DE's (one literally God) a Linebacker and a cornerback? Not.
KEEP THEM TOGETHER!!
i remember roob in week three i think it was saying this defense was as good or better than buddys gang
Still somehow in the top 10 in points per game, but finally dropped to 11th in yards per game. They're now .4 yards per game worse than the Rams. It turns out there's a lot of bad teams in the NFL right now, and the Eagles loaded up on them early.