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That photo was taken in October
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lol at the fanboy tweets to dawk
one guy actually said he loves how dawkins still looks jacked
2015 = $1M base (guaranteed) + $6.5M roster bonus (guaranteed) + $1.2M signing bonus prorated
2016 = $8.5M base (guaranteed) + $1.2M SB prorated
2017 = $10M base + $500K roster bonus + $1.2M SB prorated
2018 = $9.75M base + $250K roster bonus + $1.2M SB prorated
2019 = $9.5M base + $250K roster bonus + $1.2M SB prorated
2020 = $10.5M base + $250K roster bonus
4th worst free agent deal of the offseason according to barnwell
QuoteByron Maxwell to Philadelphia
Contract: Six years, $63 million, $25.5 million guaranteed
I wrote about the Maxwell deal earlier this week. It's not that Maxwell is a bad player, of course, but that the Eagles are paying him like he's one of the league's best cornerbacks out of sheer desperation in a thin cornerback market. The absolute best-case scenario is that Maxwell lives up to this deal, but these kinds of contracts almost always turn out to be mistakes.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 17, 2015, 06:08:19 AM
4th worst free agent deal of the offseason according to barnwell
QuoteByron Maxwell to Philadelphia
Contract: Six years, $63 million, $25.5 million guaranteed
I wrote about the Maxwell deal earlier this week. It's not that Maxwell is a bad player, of course, but that the Eagles are paying him like he's one of the league's best cornerbacks out of sheer desperation in a thin cornerback market. The absolute best-case scenario is that Maxwell lives up to this deal, but these kinds of contracts almost always turn out to be mistakes.
Haters gonna hate.
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/05/29/nfl-philadelphia-eagles-byron-maxwell-super-bowl-50-guarantee/
Statements like this never end well
Just cut him now.
i love how he says the cultures are exactly the same while making a prediction that is encouraged in pete carrolls culture and abhored by chip kellys culture
dook still got that seattle dawg in him....which is a good thing...hopefully it doesnt get beaten out of him in philly
also be nice if the eagles had a roster like seattle too...its easy to be cocky when you got earl thomas behind you and richard sherman across from you versus earl wolff and eric rowe
Why people care what any athlete says before the season is baffling. They're ego-driven by necessity in a lot of ways. Of course he thinks so. He went the last two years and he's jazzing himself up for the season. There's 32 Super Bowl hopefuls at the moment.
no mention of dream team or dynasty. im good.
im all for seattle pittsburgh baltimore shtein talking....the more the better....but a. you gotta have the roster to back it up and b. you gotta have a coach that allows it and the eagles currently have neither of those so in this case probably best to crawl into a hole until you are rolling into the bye week with one loss
Talking about it is stupid, no doubt about it. But athletes love the spotlight and often say stupid shtein, so, whatever.
fans make more of it than opposing players.
who cares, its so far down on the list of concerns it shouldnt matter to anyone.
I like it. Wish more players voiced this, regardless of the team. It's not a bad thing. It can cause a positive effect in some players.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 29, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
Why people care what any athlete says before the season is baffling.
I find it baffling during the season also. But then again a lot of people are clearly into the "soap opera for men" aspect of sports.
I like shtein talking and wish there was more of it. And less helping opposing players up and playing grab ass with them.
you like shtein talk from philly players....not from non philly players
Incorrect...again
You're hitting .063 in this game
name 5 non philly athletes that play for rivals that talk shtein that you like
DeSean
Shady
Legion of Boom
Swearinger
Suh
2 of those guys were in philly 2 seconds ago and 1 was in your real city....try again
also only 1 plays for a philly rival. you failed at this game TEX
farg your parameters!
Not enough shtein talkers in the NFL
Proving my point is it's nothing but Patty cake and butt slaps
ill accept any sport...gimme 5
Phreak likes the way he calls everybody a corksucker.
he likes the way the philly players do anything -- talk trash, take shteins, beat their women, finger their nieces -- but he doesnt like the way a rival player from a philly teams walks, talks, breathes. BUT if that player signed with a houston or philly team.....
Tell us about the time his great grandma seduced the Kaiser.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 30, 2015, 12:59:30 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 30, 2015, 12:24:54 AM
Swearinger
sey wut?
Hard hitter and talks shtein after he does it
But because I said a (former) Texans player lil guy likes to think I have something for Houston players.
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That's pretty good
We were calling him Bubs last night.
Very good Dio! That is funny.
Thrown at 19 times as an Eagle. Allowed 15 catches, for 240 yds and 2 TDs, and that calculates out to a perfect QB rating.
This guy has been terrible so far.
No. Izell Jenkins was terrible. Bradley Fletcher was terrible. Maxwell has been an abortion of an abortion so far.
Can somebody who is smart about NFL football explain this to me: didn't Chip fire last year's DB coach because they were supposed to play press coverage but when the DBs lined up in man they were too far off and let the WRs run wild, tearing up the secondary? So the canned that coach and hired a new guy from the Broncos who came to teach them proper technique like how to press receivers at the line to disrupt their route and timing, and the DLine could get to the QB and stuff? And aren't they still doing the exact same thing now? I don't understand it. Football is hard.
You're right.
They've changed players and coaches back there but yet it still happens
Billy Davis is a problem
Seth Joyner ripped Maxwell apart on CSN. He laughed at the "tired" comment too.
I heard that clip from Joyner. I love Seth. Buddy was a tool but my God, Allan, Waters, Hopkins, hell even Terry Hoage and Lefty Frizzell. Todd Bell was pretty beat up by the time Buddy got him from Chicago but I was so elated when he came over. That secondary still gives me goose bumps.
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Culture this Joe College!
I need one of those buttery buddy's bounty hunter johnsons.
Yeah I'd kill for one of those
I have one, I'll pm you who I'd like you to kill.
No need for that. We all know.
lolol...yeah what's her address, man?
On a side note...does Maxwell eat lunch in his car yet?
Drink his lunch. Smoothie, stupid.
Ah yes...I think his have some $100 bills in there for complex carbs
Schefter just reported that Banner blasted MaxiPad on the twitter for being soft batch.
From president of football ops to Twitter diva.
Atta boy Joe!
Pretty sure I heard a "Maxwell sucks" chant at the game yesterday
Deion Sanders called the little bitch out to yesterday. Said that one touchdown to Sims should have been picked. As usual Maxi made a weak attempt.
Quote from: Munson on November 23, 2015, 04:44:44 PM
Pretty sure I heard a "Maxwell sucks" chant at the game yesterday
Hopefully started by IGY, Todd, SD contingent at the game yesterday.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 23, 2015, 04:49:45 PM
Quote from: Munson on November 23, 2015, 04:44:44 PM
Pretty sure I heard a "Maxwell sucks" chant at the game yesterday
Hopefully started by IGY, Todd, SD contingent at the game yesterday.
I don't know what section they were in but I had moved down from my nosebleeds to Sec. 122 to get a closer look at the shtein show after the score went 14-7. The chant seemed to come from the corner endzone section where Maxwell was lined up. He noticed it to...looked directly at the section.
Well you know the chant wasn't started by a receiver then, he hasn't noticed them at all.
His last 4 games had been pretty good
Yesterday he sucked like everyone else
i think you are going to run into this a lot with free agents who come to play for chip....especially when they come from places with such strong personalities as seattle...its complete culture shock to come from somewhere like seattle or even dallas that are player based organizations to chips program where its all about the coach and the players are all supposed to be the same person and expected to fall in line
not coincidence that the two guys who quit yesterday and who have had horrible body language for weeks now are the two big name free agents
Quote from: Munson on November 23, 2015, 04:44:44 PM
Pretty sure I heard a "Maxwell sucks" chant at the game yesterday
100% Maxwell sucks chant in the corner section after he made a piss poor tackling effort and got plowed
Maxwell was back to early season Maxwell, but for me it was overshadowed by the completely brutal game Nolan Carroll put in. His worst game in an Eagle uniform.
Agreed
Carroll was downright awful yesterday
maxwell is never good...hes either awful or hes at best average...and no matter what hes totally indifferent...when i saw him way back in camp he looked like he wanted to be back in seattle so bad and that body language has continued all season....i guess thats what you get when you go to a terrible franchise in a blatant money grab
Or when you're suddenly no longer surrounded by talent.
well you could actually give 100% and act like you care about the talent currently surrounding you...instead he packed it in before he started...i never expected him to be a #1 corner...but he has a ring and came from a team full of leaders....he could have actually passed on his experience guidance and leadership...but this is what chip wants and does...he strips guys of all their character personality and emotions until they are basically football zombies
That or he signs guys that just aren't that good.
Now this is interesting
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/03/07/eagles-dolphins-trade-byron-maxwell/
Miami is releasing Grimes.
Interesting indeed.
Look at Howie being all professional GM like
So the trade would be what? A mutual salary dump? What on Earth could the Eagles get in return for that?
I'm still confused about why anyone would give the Eagles anything for Kiko and Maxwell.
In theory Maxwell can be released next year and either team would save cap money, so maybe this is a tryout for a renegotiated contract in Miami?
Kiko is worthless.
If the Eagles get anything of value for those stiffs I'll be shocked.
kiko had a bad year coming off a knee injury and having to play in a 3-4....hes young and dirt cheap...he definitely holds some value
still I don't expect anything more than a late 2016 or a mid round 2017 pick
Kiko meh. Eagles have LBs.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 07, 2016, 06:53:39 PM
Eagles have LBs.
you can argue whether trading kiko was smart or not but their linebacker depth is pretty awful
We disagree
bye
farg you
Not sure how true it is but Allbright accidentally leaked a rumor of a 4th also being given up with the teams swapping #8/#13
Yep - just saw that
Eagles get a 4th and the 8th overall
Miami gets Kiko, Maxwell and 13th overall
I won't believe it till its official but 8 to 13 is pretty much the equivalent of an early 3rd
I would have guessed it's value would have been somewhere in the second round
still more than I ever thought they'd get if it comes to fruition
god damnit are jews good negotiators or what
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2016, 03:11:53 PM
Not sure how true it is but Allbright accidentally leaked a rumor of a 4th also being given up with the teams swapping #8/#13
Prisco is reporting this ^^^^ is the deal.
Holy...shtein. Howie deserves some big time credit.
Miami is the same organization that gave the Eagles a second round pick for AJ Feeley. Howie gets no credit; Floridan teams are just stupid
If it weren't for Texas, Florida would be THE national embarrassment.
Florida Man can only do so much.
McLane sums up my feelings about all these moves: "Howie Roseman traded overpaid Byron Maxwell - Yeah! Roseman responsible for finding replacement - Uh-oh!"
I'm not a howie fanboy by any means much less a fan of the horrendous set-up they currently have in the PP department but he has little to no history of running a draft or free agency
i just don't get why seemingly smart football guys like McLean and many others just invented X this notion that he is the worst acquirer of talent in the history of the league with literally nothing to back it up
this isn't billy davis who had years and years of terrible defenses
Maybe because his list of epic draft and free agency busts far outweigh his successes?
He's definitely a smart guy. There's no denying that. His ability to manage the cap and get deals done is well-documented. But his ability to identify and select talent is hugely suspect. All we can hope for is he's learned from past fargups and will now select talent where it's supposed to be selected. Stop reaching. Stop trying to be the smartest guy in the room and just take what comes.
In short, no more geriatric firemen and guys named Marcus Smith in the first round would be super.
for the millionth time he's run one draft in his life and his influence on even that one is precarious at best
I'm not saying he's Ron wolf or bill polian....he never will be but can he have some sort of PP resume before we annount him the worst or best anything?
the media and most fans act like he's been running awful drafts for ten years
Howie gets an incomplete for now but I don't see how anyone can't give the guy some credit up to this point, he extended players, he got rid of two awful contracts from two bad players who had bad attitudes who we thought we were stuck with. Up to this point he gets an A from me. Now, once free agency and the draft is over lets see what he does...because finding players is the hard part. But for now the guy deserves credit for cleaning up Chips mess.
its a double edged sword right now....im just glad its finally sink or swim time for howie...no more andy or chip above him or even around him...no more gm in name only...he is the kingpin
on the other hand he got rid of anything even close to strong personality in the entire novacare complex and has even been so ballsy as to not even hire an assitant gm or director of PP...other than maybe bellick does anyone have more power than howie in the entire nfl?...and even more than power and this is the bad part imo no one has more responsibility...their war room is pretty much going to be a joke
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Ed Werder (@Edwerderespn) | Twitter
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Source tells @mortreport and I #Dolphins-#Eagles trade involving Byron Maxwell, Kiko Alonzo may be off b/c concern Maxwell shoulder injury
Motherfarger
dolphins came to their senses
QuoteEd Werder @Edwerderespn · 4m4 minutes ago
As of now, #Dolphins consider trade with #Eagles to be dead. Deal had teams swapping spots in 1st round of draft, Eagles moving from 13 to 8
UGH
the open period killed this puppy not the physical
dolphins had three days of reading and listening to how dumb they were and used the physical to get out of this
it still wouldn't shock me tho if it still happened but for far less than what they were giving up
Beautiful
He had a sprained shoulder. Dolphins realized they were stupid
Camealeon will be ecstatic.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2016, 08:08:00 AM
the open period killed this puppy not the physical
dolphins had three days of reading and listening to how dumb they were and used the physical to get out of this
it still wouldn't shock me tho if it still happened but for far less than what they were giving up
I'd be happy with getting nothing in return and just the cap relief. The swap of picks would have been amazing.
lacanfora mentioned the original trade terms and said nothing about the 4th...it was only a swap of 8 and 13
Trade is NOT off at this time. Dolphins gathering more information that will determine comfort level for going forward. That's where it is.
From Armando Salguero
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2016, 08:38:04 AM
lacanfora mentioned the original trade terms and said nothing about the 4th...it was only a swap of 8 and 13
That still would have been amazing.
Deal is supposedly on life support ____/\__/\__/\__/\__/\___
Yay Armando !
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Yes RT @babyfacejp: @LesBowen and maxwell already negotiated new terms to a contract too
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Just my opinion, i'll be really surprised if Eagles and Dolphins don't end up working this out. Players were told they were traded, etc.
lol at players being told they were traded being a factor and there is no contract if the trade is voided
all trades and contracts are contingent on players passing physicals
From Bowen
Source: Maxwell went to Miami for physical, told Dolphins' doc he couldn't do bench press or pushups. Told Eagles he was fine at end of year
:-D
doode isn't going to work up a sweat unless he's getting paid. slip him a couple thou & he'll do some pushups. :deion
Maxwell cleared by Dolphins staff and ready to roll!
From one of his agents it seems
Sounds like the 8/13 swap is still on
Get er done
Now they need to trade that 8th pick and move the farg back.
Exactly my thought. There's really nobody who will be available at 5-10 that really excites me and they have so many holes to fill.
QuoteDolphins acquire Byron Maxwell, Kiko Alonso and the 13th overall pick of the NFL draft; Eagles acquire No. 8 overall pick
Dolphins: C-
Eagles: B+
Jumping from No. 13 to No. 8 in the first round sounds like a more meaningful improvement than it's likely to be in reality. Chase Stuart's empirical draft value model suggests that that five-pick leap is roughly equivalent to the 140th pick in a typical draft. In other words, this move amounts to a selection at the top of the fifth round. That's not going to shift the needle dramatically for Philadelphia's draft capital, although it helps, given that the Eagles are down a second-rounder this year from the Sam Bradford trade.
It's shocking, though, that the Eagles were able to get anything in a swap for Maxwell's onerous contract. Philly eats $4.8 million in dead money on its 2016 cap, but the Eagles will save $8.5 million on their 2016 cap and have the dead money off of their cap for 2017 and beyond. The Dolphins will likely restructure Maxwell's $8.5 million base salary as a signing bonus to create more cap space and sign more free agents -- as is their wont -- but there's still little upside on this deal. Maxwell was erratic at best in his first year outside of the Seattle cocoon, and at $10 million per year going forward, he'll need to play like a No. 1 cornerback to justify his salary, even with the rising tide of cornerback contracts.
The Dolphins may strangely get more out of Alonso, who will likely move back to play middle linebacker in a 4-3 after getting lost in Philly's 3-4 look. With one year remaining on Alonso's rookie deal, he offers the best chance of generating surplus value in this deal for Miami.
Bad: The last time a player was picked at #8 and made the Pro Bowl was in 2006 (Donte Whitner, Buffalo).
Good: From 2001 thru 2006, every player picked at #8 made at least one Pro Bowl.
I don't know if it's a coincidence or what but that is some weird shtein right there.
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 09, 2016, 01:21:08 PMThere's really nobody who will be available at 5-10 that really excites me and they have so many holes to fill.
Hargreaves (might go to JAX, should be available) or Stanley (who I think is gone by 6). Highly unlikely they take Zeke Elliott but that's another option if they still need a RB. Also like Jack but there's bigger holes and the team seems to be set there with Hicks and Kendricks
If Baltimore doesn't take Stanely they'll probably take Treadwell, I'd be happy with either player.
Mackensie Alexander
Myles Jack
No top 10 pick on a RB
And none of those bum QBs either
Alexander is projected in the 20s
Trade back and get that second
Maybe hope Jalen Ramsey is there
Quote from: SD on March 09, 2016, 07:18:51 PM
If Baltimore doesn't take Stanely they'll probably take Treadwell, I'd be happy with either player.
really hoping for Treadwell...id lean towards him right now as the pick seeing what they have addressed thus far in FA....really they are now in a position to take best player available
im scared to death of them taking zeke...i will lose my mind if they take a back in the top ten
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2016, 07:35:54 PM
Maybe hope Jalen Ramsey is there
no chance but hes the one player id trade up for...easily the best player in this draft
Treadwell would be fine, I guess, but that would be a second round pick and two straight first round picks on WRs which I am really not crazy about.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 10, 2016, 09:14:32 AM
Treadwell would be fine, I guess, but that would be a second round pick and two straight first round picks on WRs which I am really not crazy about.
Don't forget the 3rd they spent on Huff *Salt in wound*
Ugh. Thanks for reminding me. Ass.
their #3 wr right now might be seyi ajirotutu
their #1 is a slot wr
and their #2 was a rookie flop
I'm not arguing with any of that. i'm just saying that there are other slots to fill. Lots of other slots. So the idea of pulling a Detroit Lions in the draft isn't my favorite.
Edit: Actually, I will argue with one point. Nelson was crap last year, but I am not ready to call him a flop yet. The offense was a mixed bag of shtein for most of the season and I'm willing to give him another year before announcing his uselessness.
what are the "lots" of other slots...even if you want to argue that their are none are nearly as important as WR
he was a "rookie flop"...point being hes a complete unknown and is their number two right now
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2016, 09:21:50 AM
what are the "lots" of other slots...even if you want to argue that their are none are nearly as important as WR
I'm assuming Guard and DB. Both of those they can address later in the draft. Especially guard. I'd love to get Stanley so he could eventually take over for Peters but they can address Tackle in later years and they can draft a Guard who's better than Tobin this season.
Treadwell makes everything work. Legit #1 WR, he'll make Agholor better and the middle of the field will open up. I think he's a no brainer pick but it won't surprise me if they go edge rusher or DB.
The CBs are not young and not especially good.
The OL is still a mess.
They're switching from a 3-4 to a 4-3 so they will need to retool the DL.
My point is that they put their eggs into the Nelson basket last year and they should at least see what they've got and build up the foundation at other positions because this team still looks like it's topping out at 6 wins to me.
cb is not good and the only position you could argue with wr right now for ineptness...but I personally think its better than wr after yesterday...id be perfectly fine taking one in the first tho
the OL is not near a mess...no doubt they need depth and lots of it plus a replacement for peters next year but its not nearly as weak as wr right now...again I wouldn't hate a lineman in the first but depth there can be addressed thruout the draft whereas you aint getting a starting caliber wr in the third round
reason they sucked so bad in a 3-4 is because they had mostly 4-3 players in the front seven....they are set there now with the switch back to 4-3
I don't know how you can say that the OL isn't a mess. Peters might not last the preseason and if/when he goes down that unit will be in shambles. Sure depth can be addressed via late picks and UDFAs but they don't even have a reliable starting 5.
i should mention before people come back and start mentioning something like depth on the DL that im talking strictly from a first round pick perspective when analyzing their positions right now
you also have to factor in that they are trying to win now...so imo the first round pick should be expected to move right into a starting position and be a significant difference maker and right now wr and cb are the only positions where that can happen...while i would understand for example taking a tackle in the first round i just don't think that's nearly as important for this season
They aren't winning right now, so I guess our perspectives are a little different.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 10, 2016, 09:39:10 AM
I don't know how you can say that the OL isn't a mess. Peters might not last the preseason and if/when he goes down that unit will be in shambles. Sure depth can be addressed via late picks and UDFAs but they don't even have a reliable starting 5.
peters also might last the whole season....then you have your #1 pick on the bench for most of the season and josh huff and/or seyi starting at wr
id much rather use my 3rds and 4ths for back up lineman that can cover injury than go into the season with shtein at every single wr spot
on paper the starting OL is fine...on paper WR is a complete disaster
You really are thinking that they'll be competitive this year, and therefore caring about what the roster looks like this season. That's surprising to me.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 10, 2016, 09:55:46 AM
You really are thinking that they'll be competitive this year, and therefore caring about what the roster looks like this season. That's surprising to me.
Logically no, but the NFL is a strange place. None of us thought they'd be competitive Chips first season and they were.
Didn't know Okung was an FA. I'm sure he ultimately stays with Seattle but if they could get him and release Peters I wouldn't hate that move.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 10, 2016, 09:55:46 AM
You really are thinking that they'll be competitive this year, and therefore caring about what the roster looks like this season. That's surprising to me.
i think they can be....nfl is not like any other league...365 days in the nfl is an eternity compared to other leagues...there is so much uncertainly and parity that there really isn't any such thing as rebuilding unless you are super old everywhere on your roster and don't have a qb
the division is super winnable and then you take your chances....
do i think they are going to win the superbowl
hell no
do i think they could?
why not if they make the playoffs
i also think it seems silly to make two big trades and six FA signings four of whom are going to be starters on day one and then drafting for next year...maybe silly isn't the right word cause i wouldn't kill them for taking a lineman in the first round but i think an impact wr would make a much bigger difference for next year
as far as competitiveness is concerned my biggest worry is pederson being a buffoon which admittedly is a pretty high possibility
Every move they've made other than the head coach has been geared to winning immediately. It's insane, actually. Howie is killing it right now.
the raiders are trying to win right now.....that's all you need to know about the nfl
Haha so true.
The Raiders have spent the last several years building towards this point.
The Eagles just blew up everything they've done over the last three years.
teams go from 4-5 wins to 10-11 wins and vice versa like clockwork in the nfl....eagles won 7 last year....no reason they shouldn't try and win 10-12 this year especially in this division
off the top of my head theres only two teams i can think of in the nfl that shouldn't be trying to win this year....chicago and san fran
edit: cleveland
The Eagles play in a hideous division, they already had a solid core of players and the mistakes they made have all been cut away like fat off a steak. If things go right they're at least playoff contenders.
Optimism from the two of you is a sure sign of the apocalypse. I'm checking out and getting drunk in preparation.
Everyone thought the Panthers were dead once Benjamin went down, they made the SB
Nobody thought Denver would win the SB, especially with Peyton playing like he was at the end of 2014.
Et tu, SD? Isn't it Washington football fans who usually get all excited about the first week of free-agency? I'm telling you, End Times are upon us.
Optimism from igy?
End of the world comes today
im not optimistic at all....im telling you what they should do or what could happen...their end game for this season
not what will happen
Silly me.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 10, 2016, 10:40:38 AM
Et tu, SD? Isn't it Washington football fans who usually get all excited about the first week of free-agency? I'm telling you, End Times are upon us.
I think they can be competitive and win the division. That's where my expectations stop. I don't think that's the same as say...someone predicting last years Phillies could win 80 games...but I think it's a reasonable expectation.
Thinking that the Eagles can win the division isn't optimistic at all when the current division champ only won 7 games. It's a weak division right now and at this point, I'd basically say each team has an equal shot to win it.
They've improved their contracts and salary cap position greatly. In terms of the end product on the field in 2016, the only substantial changes I see from last year are that they have a real guard and they have replaced a college coach with a high school coach.
They've replaced two average corners with two average corners, a good safety with a good safety, replaced Murray with nothing, a backup QB with a backup QB...
In terms of improvement the only thing you can really point to so far is that Bradford ended the year fairly strong and will perhaps look more like that guy than the guy who started last season. And the DC probably belongs in the NFL now and has a scheme that fits the team. As of now my mindset is 5-9 wins, depending on the quality of Bradford's arm and knees.
its not just about going thru each position and 1 for 1 comparing who was there last year...you have to account for improvement with guys they already had
they massively upgraded the defensive coordinator position....schwag is a superior coach to billy d but i could be coaching and they would improve by just going to a 4-3...the front seven has a chance to be dominant now...guys need to step up and perform obviously but at least they are going to be in the right positions to do so
kelce should be much better with one and most likely a second G next to him who belong in the nfl
sammy b should improve having a year under his belt and a better offensive line...like you said his improvement in just the second half of last year was enormous...that should in theory continue
mcleod is a definite improvement at safety...thurmon was so overrated last year...he was a nice story for the local beat to latch onto since he converted from corner and didn't embarrass himself...but McLeod is a true blue nfl safety and will improve the position
their offense no matter what they run will not result in the defense calling out every other play...sammy b should be much more comfortable in it
ertz should blow up
demarco murray was a complete joke.... no matter who replaces him will be better than last year
don't underestimate the culture change either...while Pederson is suspect at best as a in game head coach/play caller dont underestimate the culture change he will bring in the locker room...should be a much happier place to be...hopefully he acts more as a soothing agent and people person who delegates authority and has his players backs and less a play designer/caller/offensive coordinator...just gotta hope his positives outweigh his negatives
a lot of this is legit some of it is part devils advocacy but right now they are better on paper than they were last year and we are less than 24 hrs into free agency...i agree with sarge by the time we get to august i think they will be a co-favorite for the division title and are a lot of things going right away from winning 11 games and a lot of things going wrong from winning 6 games
If they beat the Skins and Giants they're the division winners.
That's how bad this team was with Kelly. They had all but mutinied and a lot of them had quit playing entirely yet they still came within a snatch hair of making the playoffs.
They have talent on both sides of the ball. Unless Pederson is a total failure as a head coach I can't see them not competing for the division. And look, we know historically most free agents don't live up to the hype or their contracts. But these guys aren't break the bank types. They're mid-range professionals who are upgrades over the bums they replaced.
If the talent that was there just plays up to their potential and they find a game-breaker at WR, this team might be pretty good. They're not going to be at the Patriots' or Green Bay's level but solid playoff contenders sounds pretty good to me right now after last year's implosion.
i think dallas is the best team if romo is healthy but any of the four can win it with the right breaks
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2016, 01:37:54 PM
their offense no matter what they run will not result in the defense calling out every other play...sammy b should be much more comfortable in it
ertz should blow up
demarco murray was a complete joke.... no matter who replaces him will be better than last year
don't underestimate the culture change either...while Pederson is suspect at best as a in game head coach/play caller dont underestimate the culture change he will bring in the locker room...should be a much happier place to be...hopefully he acts more as a soothing agent and people person who delegates authority and has his players backs and less a play designer/caller/offensive coordinator...just gotta hope his positives outweigh his negatives
All excellent points. Ertz is a C+ TE. They'll be fine at RB. The "culture" point is so spot on. The Nova Care is a much better place now. Not having all that negative, smartest man in the complex vibe is huge.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2016, 02:43:15 PM
i think dallas is the best team if romo is healthy but any of the four can win it with the right breaks
Sounds about right.
Re: Pederson - I really hope that he doesn't follow Andy's footsteps and want front office duties...if he lasts.