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Haaaaa, nice starting post. i'm all in on the sanchez train. what choice do i have ?
late carolina td makes it look closer.
38-17 eagles
Sanchez is more mobile and makes quicker decisions, just having that is an upgrade over Foles. Turnover wise I'm not expecting a big dropoff from Nick.
I'm expecting the offense to run smoother and better because Sanchez will step into the pocket or take off when something breaks down.
Him being more mobile than Sir Picks-A-Lot will help the read option game immensely
Eagles - 31
Panthers - 16
carolina sucks....the eagles will have to try to lose this game
we'll know if sanchez is buttfumble or Solid Veteran in the gb game
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 03, 2014, 12:00:29 PM
I'm expecting the offense to run smoother and better because Sanchez will step into the pocket or take off when something breaks down.
Him being more mobile than Sir Picks-A-Lot will help the read option game immensely
Eagles - 31
Panthers - 16
If he can move the chains, be more efficient in the redzone (not a tall order since they're at the bottom of the league) and only turn the ball over once a game he'll be an upgrade. That he is semi mobile is a big plus as long as he takes care of the ball. The good thing is if he does well it will be the final nail in the coffin of the Foles era because the f/o will know they can plug almost anyone in there and he can get it done.
I'm legit worried about MLB
I'm praying that Acho can be the guy to step up...
yeah demeco is irreplaceable...you can make an argument that hes the player they could least afford to lose...maybe peters or shady ahead of him...but thats about it
Parkey would be a bad loss as far as a kicker goes.
He's been all-pro caliber in fg territory and his kickoffs have been farging cruise missiles.
Rome, sometimes you turn me on when you talk.
gigity gigity
The Eagles released tix and they're available on TM right now.
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Newton 0 td passes in last two games. Oh farg.
Chris Prosinski, sucking off hobos on the street for blow 5 days ago, is active while a healthy Earl Wolff is inactive
Someone check igy and make sure he's ok...white newcomer dood over Wolffman?
Sanchez + Matthews = Worried Geowhizzer
I think the game will be a lot tougher than the "experts."
these jersey's are farging blue
disgusting
Murderin' Ray says Emmanuel Ocho plays for the Eagles....
Oh ok, thanks Ray.
Quote from: MDS on November 10, 2014, 07:59:04 PM
these jersey's are farging blue
disgusting
Nike done farged up
They don't match the helmets!
You guys are missing the big picture.
Nike can't make Midnight Green! No way will the Eagles accept whatever this color is. It's very clearly the wrong color.
Midnight Green is dead!
its not a real color....its a christina lurie creation
literally 1 human person likes the jersey and he is _______
Well dark green is a color. They make cars that are dark green. Called hunter green. Same look as midnight really.
This isn't even Christina Lurie's creation tonight. It's not even Midnight Green. It's Nike Green-Blue.
Yeah it's Nike farging shtein up
I expect this from a lesser company like Starter or Champion or even Reebok but they did ok
How hard can it be for a mega-sized apparel corporation to make a lousy jersey?
maybe the eagles farged up by switching to god awful ugly color because the owners funhole wife wanted to
Too bad. Nike gave Goodell a dump truck of money, so you're stuck with them. Although I'm not sure why they waited so long to just use the Dolphins jersey material to make Eagles jerseys.
I don't work in that industry, but I kind of assumed that in 2014, you could make fabric any color you wanted. Clearly Midnight Green can only be made with strange ingredients that Nike doesn't have access to... maybe whatever is left over from windmill construction. Or maybe it takes orphan hearts to make a color so evil.
Little Taiwanese orphan hearts!
When you put it that way, maybe Nike does have access to those.
Do you know how tiny malnourished orphan hearts are? Pretty farging tiny, let me tell you.
That was a great anthem. Bravissimo, buddy.
i dont care, theyre wearing blue uniforms
OUT go cowboys
there is basically no difference between that ugly early 90's teal thing carolina has and the eagles uniform
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 10, 2014, 08:28:20 PM
That was a great anthem. Bravissimo, buddy.
I was a little disappointed our eagle didn't grab any hairpieces. Bob Costas is gonna have to watch out if they have a SNF game in Seattle.
Clearly these knockoff jerseys are good luck.
That series looked like if the Jets wore blue.
Nice offensive start.
Casey Matthews forces a fumble and that's how they repay him?!
More turnovers for the turnover god!
Cary and Casey!!
We all may die tonight
Wait, why isn't Sanchez backpedaling ten yards? I'm so confused.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2014, 08:41:40 PM
Wait, why isn't Sanchez backpedaling ten yards? I'm so confused.
lol that play was pure anti picky foles....sanchize understood the pocket and hung in there.
chip td
Let's see how Scam turns it over this time
They have discovered Casey Matthews. I'm afraid we've got a real game now.
scam making throws on this drive
That was the Casey Matthews we all know and loathe.
Casey...jeez
That was a little too easy.
billy davis got smoked on that drive....cam was making some throws, but he was beat on just about every play
I really hate watching Casey Matthews trying to play football. He gets bounced around like a pinball when playing the run and is an embarrassment in pass coverage. He's definitely adopted.
As fun as it is to bust on Casey Matthews, and I'm sure we'll be afforded many opportunities for it in this game, let's not pretend Demeco Ryans is covering Greg Olsen 50 yards downfield either.
he forced the fumble on the 2nd play....and has been pretty good the last few games
but you get beat once (him 1v1 with olson isnt ever going to turn out well) and youre the worst. wahhhh wahhh wahhhh
You're all mad now, but just you wait until the end of the season when Matthews gets put in on offense in garbage time and everyone on both teams pushes him toward the endzone while cheering.
Cut Sproles.
Come on Sprolesy
Gotta catch that
awful run defense for curalina and andy has called like 3 runs plays
Quote from: MDS on November 10, 2014, 09:03:33 PM
awful run defense for curalina and andy has called like 3 runs plays
Trying to get the Sanchize in a rhythm. And it's worked, this is his normal rhythm.
Nice play by McDougle.
Quote from: MDS on November 10, 2014, 09:03:33 PM
awful run defense for curalina and andy has called like 3 runs plays
Can't be Andy, he wouldn't call 1 in 3 plays a run.
Sproles is so good at everything but catching passes, apparently.
This is going too easy. The offense hasn't even had to do much of anything.
sproles is awesome and shtein, but that was all blocking
dave fipp ftw
Sproles is a goddamn beast
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 10, 2014, 09:08:25 PM
This is going too easy. The offense hasn't even had to do much of anything.
That's called gameplanning to your strengths.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2014, 09:07:42 PM
Sproles is so good at everything but catching passes, apparently.
Sproles must feel like a 24 year old Charger again in those powder blues.
hipster sack
what is his carbon offset for that
Hipster sack!
Wow at Barwin tracking down Newton. That alone tells you Newton isn't right.
Quote from: MDS on November 10, 2014, 08:59:19 PM
he forced the fumble on the 2nd play....and has been pretty good the last few games
but you get beat once (him 1v1 with olson isnt ever going to turn out well) and youre the worst. wahhhh wahhh wahhhh
Lol. Nate Allen forced a fumble once too, but he still sucks. More often than not, Matthews can't shed a blocker to make plays in the run game.
The Panthers are slightly worse than Casey Matthews.
D looks great with their tackling tonight.
There could have been a legit 3 or 4 more penalties tonight so good job by the refs letting them play.
Just make the good Matthews the starter over Cooper already.
lol at Harper bitching about the pushoff instead of making the tackle.
I don't trust McCoy running the ball backed up inside their own 5
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there is douchebag shoulderpad shawn
Was that just Maclin breaking up a pass intended for Cooper?
Look at that wasted draft pick carry this drive.
Imagine if they had Kelvin Benjamin.
This Panthers defense sucks a little bit, eh?
sanchez on that play doing what foles cannot
http://gfycat.com/ShinyWelllitJumpingbean
Sanchez hit people in stride that drive. Well done.
Matthews is trash! Get another receiver in there.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 10, 2014, 09:26:02 PM
Matthews is trash! Get another receiver in there.
He would also be the third best receiver in Pittsburgh, by the way.
scam newtown = dwight howard
i figured it out
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 10, 2014, 09:26:02 PM
Matthews is trash! Get another receiver in there.
And get him a better cousin dammit
Quote from: MDS on November 10, 2014, 09:27:01 PM
scam newtown = dwight howard
i figured it out
Busted and ruined on an awful team? I don't know hockey players, sorry.
Statue Cam's gonna get everyone a sack tonight.
It feels like DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart have been making the Panthers run game fantasy irrelevant for the last 20 years.
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 10, 2014, 09:30:45 PM
It feels like DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart have been making the Panthers run game fantasy irrelevant for the last 20 years.
they are carcasses
trent showing some class there on the sack, letting go of Newton's leg at the last second. He could have held on and twisted it like tearing a drumstick off a turkey.
Sanchez is starting to get flustered. I hope he doesn't get butt-flustered.
smug chip....not sure you go for it there
but then again carolina sucks so does it matter?
Like going for it there but if you're going to that might be a place you run on 3rd/2.
Hell, go for it every 4th down this game. What are the Panthers going to do about it? Their offense, I mean.
Maclin showing he's not a true 1 by dropping that
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 10, 2014, 09:32:24 PM
trent showing some class there on the sack, letting go of Newton's leg at the last second. He could have held on and twisted it like tearing a drumstick off a turkey.
Or off of an eagle.
Quote from: Rome on November 10, 2014, 02:43:20 AM
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 10, 2014, 09:35:28 PM
Maclin showing he's not a true 1 by dropping that
That's why Sproles is a #2, too.
Cam gonna die tonight. Rip in peace, Cam.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2014, 09:29:44 PM
Statue Cam's gonna get everyone a sack tonight.
Kendricks, check.
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 10, 2014, 09:38:55 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2014, 09:29:44 PM
Statue Cam's gonna get everyone a sack tonight.
Kendricks, check.
The real nail in the coffin is when Matthews gets one.
Demeco is going to have a sack by the 3rd quarter
Jerome Brown will get one too.
Ha ha ha.
I'm pretty sure G_F meant Jordan Matthews
thats scam
amazing play to keep the drive alive on 3rd and long...then he does that on 4th and short.
If your options are go for it or punt to Sproles, going for it is clearly the better option. Just send the punters home early tonight.
Back was wide open in the flat
Got lucky there
THANKS CAM!
The part of Ron Rivera tonight is being played by Andy Reid.
You cannot throw the ball out of bounds on fourth down. What a terrible decision.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 10, 2014, 09:40:48 PM
Jerome Brown will get one too.
Ha ha ha.
And Casey Matthews
Hahaha
I like that Microsoft spent all that money to advertise their tablets during NFL games, and all they've gotten out of it was "They've got iPads!" and teams going back to fax machines.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2014, 09:44:08 PM
I like that Microsoft spent all that money to advertise their tablets during NFL games, and all they've gotten out of it was "They've got iPads!" and teams going back to fax machines.
I like the commercials of NFLers ensuring we end domestic violence and sexual abuse...next on the docket regular old violence and abuse
Cut Cooper. His throat, preferably.
I'm just going off Game Center here but I think it's possible to also run the ball, Chip.
Sloppy ass shtein on that series
Come on
Farg you, Donnie Jones. You might as well start wearing bowties and playing a bajo, you jerk.
Fletch!!!!!
Yessssssss
I'll probably never say this again, but Tirico's "Fly Eagles Flyyy" was great
scam newtown
jameis winston in 4 years
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 10, 2014, 09:48:50 PM
I'll probably never say this again, but Tirico's "Fly Eagles Flyyy" was great
Indeed
GAME. OVER.
(or at least the half)
I'm slightly less worried about this game now. Slightly.
i dont think this will happen next week in green bay
Every time they wear a weird uniform they kick ass.
Quote from: MDS on November 10, 2014, 09:50:44 PM
i dont think this will happen next week in green bay
Certainly not with that attitude
Look at this awful defense, they can't ever get off the field.
Man, the D and STs gettin it done again, and without having to bail out the O. Looking like another Giants game ;D
Sacks for everyone. This game is now about getting Bennie Logan a sack.
Quinoa and wheat grass for everyone! Hipster sacks!
Barwin's gonna lead the league in messenger bags sacks by the time this game is over.
this isnt andy dalton bad, but its getting there for scam
Dawkins is gonna steal Boykin's uniform and get a sack, and no one will say anything about it.
Quote from: MDS on November 10, 2014, 10:00:50 PM
this isnt andy dalton bad, but its getting there for scam
He's at about Ryan Fitzpatrick bad tonight.
He's almost Nick Foles bad
So this is the game where that kid warming up his arm becomes Cam's mom's favorite player.
https://vine.co/v/Oi1i2rDZxgj
The defense is reminding me of those late 80s early 90s teams when they would go into a feeding frenzy. With Carolina's colors reminds me a lot of the house of pain game.
there is basically no difference between jerome and reggie and curry and graham
Panthers coaches confirmed trying to kill Cam.
How does Sproles run so well leaning that far forward?!
Run the ball.
Oh, okay. Nevermind.
Pass more!
Quote from: Diomedes on November 10, 2014, 10:19:34 PM
Oh, okay. Nevermind.
Pass more!
Run with Sproles more, leave McCoy out as a DeCoy.
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Dio sez
"Good job McDougle"
They should have stuck with running every play.
Gotta fall on that city ball, guys.</chip>
It was nice of them to chew up some time before the fumble. Good sports, these Panthers.
Celek!!!
Wow.
Nice throw and catch
PS - is Ertz dead? Ertz so much he died?
real nice throw and catch there
The Eagles are going for more points than seconds of possession.
Short of a TD. Damn!
Chip also wants Cam to die, I see. Who will stop these bloodthirsty coaches?
Polk that ball in.
Barwin tossed the tackle over that last play again.
nick foles is so good he is no different than mark sanchez
where is that homer fraud rome
Sanchez with the QB sneak into a buttfumble, brining on the improbably Panthers comeback.
Pity TD for McCoy. That's so sad.
Here lies Cam Newton. Killed by Cox.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2014, 10:38:53 PM
Here lies Cam Newton. Killed by Cox.
the oh-he-gone trail
ok im done
Ertz lives!
Mccoy blew that blitz pickup so badly that I thought it was a screen at first.
Oh, sure, now they don't throw it deep.
Sanchez might be a far more experienced QB, but he clearly doesn't have the backpeddling experience of a Nick Foles.
Maybe the Panthers should just punt on first down for the rest of the game.
i cant wait for the out of context backpage picture on the charlotte post
Pretty gruesome looking ankle injury to Lotulelei
@JoelEmbiid: Stadium is full, it gets so loud and we're winning by 100........ Great game to go to #Philly 💯💯💯💯 #PanthersAintSh*t
Black man severely injured, Riley Cooper powers activated.
Nate Allen is the new Patrick Chung.
Jesus, my spine cracked watching that hit.
Celek has never been that open in his life and had no idea what to do.
Speaking of wide open...
Matthews!!
What a loser, he had to spin into the endzone.
Sanchez pocket mobility has been excellent. Also has good chemistry with Matthews, maybe from preseason.
Cooper looks disinterested (so does McCoy, frankly).
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2014, 11:04:54 PM
Celek has never been that open in his life and had no idea what to do.
I think next time he won't take the getting injured option.
McCoy's frustrated, Cooper just misses his white jersey.
:cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead
ESPN confirms it, white quarterbacks are back in fashion.
Farg off, Joe Webb
Booooooo!
KKKooper needs to go - he's garbage
Gruden is so wasted right now.
I want a smoothie now.
Can I buy an officially licensed Eagles Blender?
Jeffrey will only sell it if it is hand cranked or solar powered.
Cam finally comes to his senses and calls a timeout so he can get off the field. That's what he's doing, right?
is anyone watching this game besides people from philly
good lord boring boring boring
Nope
Everyone I've texted to talk shtein said they've turned it off
lol joe webb....from beyond the grave....at the scene of the crime
i hope andy is watching that fat farg
I've been flipping back and forth since the Daily Show started
Did Nate Allen just get a PF for hitting his own guy?
farging Allen.
Cary Cary Cary....good job buddy
That ball just hung up there forever as he stared at it. Good work Cary.
Eagles games don't official count until Cary gets beat deep.
I sure hope the Eagles' draft goes three straight DBs, then whatever else they need.
Yeah really...ball is floating up there and he's thinking about sconces and dental work
Clown
Based on what I've seen tonight, as long as the Packers don't throw many deep balls, the Eagles should have no trouble with Green Bay next week. :paranoid
Hey, don't put Barkley in. This isn't a preseason game, winning it matters!
Cary cost me $50.
Knocked me outta the money in the fanduel million contest
Dickhead
Will Barkley throw any ints while handing the ball off?
Barkley checks in. 5 minutes from now the Panthers will win 49-45.
And a new record is set for balls bouncing off a helmet in a regular season game.
yea so if that pass is any indication, it might be a good idea to keep sanchez in a plastic bubble from here on out
McDougle knows he'll never have an opportunity like this again in his life.
That's a good twenty seconds of Chip picking something out of his teeth. That's good stuff.
lol better than when baseball players and managers get caught digging in their noses
Joe Torre was a pro at that
good win
now what can we complain about
Quote from: MDS on November 10, 2014, 11:43:18 PM
good win
now what can we complain about
The defense. Not enough pressure, bad DBs, and Casey Matthews is still in the NFL.
Cary Williams
Not drafting Benjamin
Matt Barkley
Cary Williams
Shady rushing for nothing
Casey Matthews
Ertz being drowned in the Schuykill or something
Nate Allen smoking his own players on hits
Maclin not showing up
Not drafting Benjamin
Jordan Matthews because...well I'm sure we will find something
Sproles dropped at least two passes, so farg that guy.
Good point.
He needs to step up
Riley Cooper had a fine game. No complaints there.
Defense was great. Yardage and point totals will be inflated because of garbage time but they were awesome.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2014, 11:34:01 PM
And a new record is set for balls bouncing off a helmet in a regular season game.
You've obviously never tailgated with Chuggie.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 10, 2014, 11:55:45 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2014, 11:34:01 PM
And a new record is set for balls bouncing off a helmet in a regular season game.
You've obviously never tailgated with Chuggie.
Legit lol
I've been sick as a dog the last few days and finally hit the wall around 7:30 last night. Missed the game, but thankfully, the estimable Mrs. Rome recorded it for me, so I just finished watching it.
Holy shtein that was a vicious game from the defense. Carolina's offensive line is hideous and Newton is a shell of himself because of injury, but still... they were rampaging from the start. Freaking Connor Barwin? Seriously?? And is it really possible that someone has finally figured out how to get the best out of Brandon Graham?
The highlight for me was Sproles' punt return. I didn't check highlights or anything before I watched but the moment I saw the kick head down the middle of the field, I literally giggled to myself. Gruden's comment after the return was hilarious. How can anyone kick the ball down the seam and give that guy two choices on where to run?
Nice job by Celek & Jordan Matthews on offense. It's amazing how these clowns continue to get random contributions from players week after week. The Panthers were determined to shut down Maclin and Shady. Congrats! It worked like a charm. Oh, but then there's Celek & Matthews to contend with. And how about Sanchez? It wasn't all great, admittedly. He missed some open guys, fumbled a couple times, and could have been picked a couple of times, but he looked really good considering he hasn't played in two years. His mobility has to have Chipper short stroking it thinking what they might accomplish with him back there.
Anyway, fun game, great result against a really terrible team... sorry I missed it live but now shtein gets real in Lambeau. Looking forward to seeing if this team is legit against a solid contender.
PS: How great would Kelvin Benjamin be in this offense? farging Marcus Smith. Christ...
this team is going nowhere unless the prevent defense gets its shtein together.
I'm having a lot of trouble adjusting to the idea that this defense might actually be good. I'm not sure I'm ready to actually say it out loud, but I'm thinking about it. Stay tuned for more hard hitting updates.
It's certainly been better than feared. I'd still like to see a few less big plays given up by the defensive backs.
imagine the defense if the 1st round draft pick wasn't an epic bust.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 11, 2014, 09:31:37 AM
I'm having a lot of trouble adjusting to the idea that this defense might actually be good. I'm not sure I'm ready to actually say it out loud, but I'm thinking about it. Stay tuned for more hard hitting updates.
I still think a good quarterback or a tightly reffed game can take advantage of the secondary. Allen is mediocre, Cary gets lost at times, and Fletcher is way too physical downfield some games. Jenkins has been a rock though and it has helped a lot.
The front seven I think is legitimately good. That takes a hit with Ryans out, but Barwin/Cole/Graham are getting consistent pressure off the ends, Kendricks has been very good when he's played, and the front 3 is incredibly stout against the run.
Before we go stroking each other about the pressure, 19 of the 32 sacks for this defense were in two games (Giants and Panthers). In the other seven games, that's an average of less than two sacks per game. I'd like to see that get more consistent.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 11, 2014, 11:12:39 AM
Before we go stroking each other about the pressure, 19 of the 32 sacks for this defense were in two games (Giants and Panthers). In the other seven games, that's an average of less than two sacks per game. I'd like to see that get more consistent.
I don't think they were getting much pressure early in the year. They also were harassing Kap as I remember in the Niners game. They disrupted Fitzpatrick and Palmer a lot too without the sack numbers being there, but those two games highlight some of the weaknesses as well with the big plays -- when the pressure doesn't bring down the QB (or you have a veteran QB who can see where the blitz is coming from like Palmer) the secondary is still way too susceptible to big plays.
That being said, I think the defense is pretty good right now. Not great - the back four isn't good enough to be great - but pretty good.
I do agree that the defense is showing much more than we expected. It could even be a top-10 or better defense if the backfield gets addresses in the offseason.
This is a strange team. Are they really as good as their record? If so is it because the rest of the league is that bad? They don't seem to have any one strength they can hand their hat on offensively or defensively. Every week it is something different so in a weird way other teams don't have those one or two things to take away. And it is not even like their are scrappy, or over performing like last year. They get turnovers at key times but going into last night they were still one of the worst +/- teams in the league. Somehow they make it work. I think they have just enough unpredictability and controlled chaos that it gives them that edge.
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 11, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
This is a strange team. Are they really as good as their record? If so is it because the rest of the league is that bad?
The league is really bad this year. The NFC South might send a 6 win team to the playoffs.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 11, 2014, 12:23:23 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 11, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
This is a strange team. Are they really as good as their record? If so is it because the rest of the league is that bad?
The league is really bad this year. The NFC South might send a 6 win team to the playoffs.
How much will it hurt to see that 6-win team win the SuperBowl after beating the Eagles in the playoffs?
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 11, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
This is a strange team. Are they really as good as their record?
we will find out sunday....altho they won in indy.....which is a legit great win
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 11, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 11, 2014, 12:23:23 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 11, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
This is a strange team. Are they really as good as their record? If so is it because the rest of the league is that bad?
The league is really bad this year. The NFC South might send a 6 win team to the playoffs.
How much will it hurt to see that 6-win team win the SuperBowl after beating the Eagles in the playoffs?
I'm pretty sure this is an AFC super bowl year.
Chip said in today's press conference that he isn't happy with how the offense played last night, and it wasn't just the lack of rushing
They didn't run the ball worth a damn, so he has a point.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 11, 2014, 01:17:34 PM
Chip says he isn't happy with how the offense played last night
i said this leaving the game
run game was an embarrassment and sanchez was terribly inaccurate
It was basically a McNabb game. Overthrown passes half the time, balls bouncing off the receivers a quarter of the time.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2014, 01:21:13 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 11, 2014, 01:17:34 PM
Chip says he isn't happy with how the offense played last night
i said this leaving the game
run game was an embarrassment and sanchez was terribly inaccurate
Sanchez was spot on after the first quarter with the exception of timing on bubble screens. It was against a bad defense so it needs to be qualified but "terribly inaccurate" is terribly inaccurate. Hit people in stride more this game than Foles did most of the year.
Sanchez stepped up in the pocket and was mobile unlike Foles who has the mobility of a paraplegic.
He also had several pretty nice throws where he needled the ball into a tight spot.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on November 11, 2014, 01:46:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2014, 01:21:13 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 11, 2014, 01:17:34 PM
Chip says he isn't happy with how the offense played last night
i said this leaving the game
run game was an embarrassment and sanchez was terribly inaccurate
Sanchez was spot on after the first quarter with the exception of timing on bubble screens. It was against a bad defense so it needs to be qualified but "terribly inaccurate" is terribly inaccurate. Hit people in stride more this game than Foles did most of the year.
20 completions and 18 incompletes
Quote from: smeags on November 11, 2014, 10:04:23 AM
imagine the defense if the 1st round draft pick wasn't an epic bust.
agree.. a first round pick anywhere on the defense that could actually make the field would be super right about now, especially with ryans shelved for the season.
you know you're a bust when nolan caroll is playing more LB then you.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2014, 02:21:38 PM
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Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2014, 01:21:13 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 11, 2014, 01:17:34 PM
Chip says he isn't happy with how the offense played last night
i said this leaving the game
run game was an embarrassment and sanchez was terribly inaccurate
Sanchez was spot on after the first quarter with the exception of timing on bubble screens. It was against a bad defense so it needs to be qualified but "terribly inaccurate" is terribly inaccurate. Hit people in stride more this game than Foles did most of the year.
20 completions and 18 incompletes
It was actually 20 and 17 (I'm sure that makes a world of difference). He started 2 of 7 and finished 18 of 30. Regardless, I thought you said last week you look at the game with your eyes and not stats? Most of Sanchez's incomplete passes came on plays near the LOS where timing was off. Sproles dropped one over the middle, McCoy dropped two, Cooper was blocking when a bubble screen was thrown to him. I mean, feel free to see whatever you want from it but if you actually rewatch the game and look at the passes he missed I think you'll be hard pressed to find he was off let alone terribly inaccurate. This is all semantics anyway as one game against the Panthers proves little but for all you talk about people's inability to be objective, I have a hard time thinking you watched the game and thought he was "terribly inaccurate." I just don't think many people, Eagles fans or not, who watched that would agree with that assessment.
also.. does anyone know how much of coopers contact is guaranteed? i mean not only does the dude not contribute in any way shape or form from the WR position.. but anytime he's involved in any play that requires him doing anything football related, it usually ranges from nothing good to something terrible happening every single time.
$8 mil guaranteed.
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Quote from: BigEd76 on November 11, 2014, 01:17:34 PM
Chip says he isn't happy with how the offense played last night
i said this leaving the game
run game was an embarrassment and sanchez was terribly inaccurate
Sanchez was spot on after the first quarter with the exception of timing on bubble screens. It was against a bad defense so it needs to be qualified but "terribly inaccurate" is terribly inaccurate. Hit people in stride more this game than Foles did most of the year.
20 completions and 18 incompletes
It was actually 20 and 17 (I'm sure that makes a world of difference). He started 2 of 7 and finished 18 of 30. Regardless, I thought you said last week you look at the game with your eyes and not stats? Most of Sanchez's incomplete passes came on plays near the LOS where timing was off. Sproles dropped one over the middle, McCoy dropped two, Cooper was blocking when a bubble screen was thrown to him. I mean, feel free to see whatever you want from it but if you actually rewatch the game and look at the passes he missed I think you'll be hard pressed to find he was off let alone terribly inaccurate. This is all semantics anyway as one game against the Panthers proves little but for all you talk about people's inability to be objective, I have a hard time thinking you watched the game and thought he was "terribly inaccurate." I just don't think many people, Eagles fans or not, who watched that would agree with that assessment.
so basically he played to his career averages. he even had the pick (since he's never thrown for more than 270 yards without one) that dude just stepped out of bounds on. still though i think everyone would agree the passing game looked better than with mr. backpedal. once foles stop taking care of the football (even though he had alot of luck with that last year) he became a below average qb. sanchez brings what foles cannot.. mobility and quick decision making. whether he can consistently make the right decisions remains to be seen but that's been what has held him back. now that he has some talent surrounding him he shouldn't need to press and hopefully that helps him out.
Quote from: LBIggle on November 11, 2014, 03:04:29 PM
so basically he played to his career averages. he even had the pick (since he's never thrown for more than 270 yards without one) that dude just stepped out of bounds on. still though i think everyone would agree the passing game looked better than with mr. backpedal. once foles stop taking care of the football (even though he had alot of luck with that last year) he became a below average qb. sanchez brings what foles cannot.. mobility and quick decision making. whether he can consistently make the right decisions remains to be seen but that's been what has held him back. now that he has some talent surrounding him he shouldn't need to press and hopefully that helps him out.
yeah turnovers are the key....i dont think sanchez will ever be a super accurate qb...but dont turn the ball over and convert in the red zone and he will be just fine
He'll either settle down and become a good QB, or we'll be looking at the Sam Bradford Experience by week 8 next year and the cycle continues.
he was wildly inaccurate
wild
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Well get him some coke bottle glasses and I'll warm up his entrance music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPCMKID6NKA
Quote from: LBIggle on November 11, 2014, 02:52:48 PM
also.. does anyone know how much of coopers contact is guaranteed? i mean not only does the dude not contribute in any way shape or form from the WR position.. but anytime he's involved in any play that requires him doing anything football related, it usually ranges from nothing good to something terrible happening every single time.
How many times has a QB thrown to him and he's not even looking. I really don't think he's capable of understanding the playcalls and hot routes.
yeah hes a terrible route runner
also most of his salary next year is guarnteed and then hes basically off the books....so we probably have one more year of having to watch him
He's going to be a well paid third or, hopefully, fourth receiver. And he won't even have to learn how to return punts or kickoffs. What a lucky guy.
I know Avant wasn't anything special, but he's a pro. I still can't believe they kept KKKooper over him.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 12, 2014, 10:49:45 AM
He's going to be a well paid third or, hopefully, fourth receiver.
yeah even if hes on the roster they need to aqcquire a wr that passes him on the depth chart..as has been mentioned many times before...imagine this offense with a legit threat at his spot...they have had terrible play from the qb position this year and an entire outside half of the field that essentially doesnt need to be defensed because kkk and they still have a top 10 passing offense
there was a play or two where he motioned to the back field next to sanchez and i had to close my eyes. i honestly think he was moving before the snap and there was a flag for a false start that was called on someone else but probably should have been him and that was probably the best that play could have turned out. like sb said he's not even looking for the ball sometimes, he's absolutely clueless.
the real question is does chip make the hard decision if these guys don't turn it around by the playoffs. by that i mean mccoy with his dancing around when sproles and polk usually have no problems getting yards at a clip. keeping foles on the sideline if sanchez proves he's capable of not turning the ball over and managing the game. and putting matthews on the outside. obviously the last one being the least likely to happen but with the NFC being weak this year i don't see how you can't make a run for it. but by doing that you can't have dummies doing dumb things on a "smart " football team. back pedaling, dancing, and whatever the hell cooper is doing isn't going to get you deep in the playoffs.
Quote from: LBIggle on November 12, 2014, 11:01:55 PM
the real question is does chip make the hard decision if these guys don't turn it around by the playoffs. by that i mean mccoy with his dancing around when sproles and polk usually have no problems getting yards at a clip. keeping foles on the sideline if sanchez proves he's capable of not turning the ball over and managing the game. and putting matthews on the outside. obviously the last one being the least likely to happen but with the NFC being weak this year i don't see how you can't make a run for it. but by doing that you can't have dummies doing dumb things on a "smart " football team. back pedaling, dancing, and whatever the hell cooper is doing isn't going to get you deep in the playoffs.
you could tell immediately this year that shady had lost something from last year....thats said he is going nowhere nor should he...did barry sanders get benched for backpeddling?....shadys getting nine people in the box much of the time...chris polk is getting zero attention and sproles runs the ball five times a game and two of them are screens...people arent game planning for darren sproles....without pimp shady is the one player that makes defenses change....make polk or sproles the starting half back and give them 20+ carries a game and watch how fast you wish shady was back
one thing id like to see them do with shady more...especially when the run game is struggling is to get him out in some space and throw him the ball...i know sporles has cut into this a little bit but he isnt involved in the passing game at all this year...forget the obvious mismatch advantages you have with him out there but it also will keep him involved when he isnt gaining anything on the ground
you basically said it yourself but id be shocked ife matthews gets moved outside...not only is he playing really well inside but if you move him you drastically weaken the slot...id rather have a guy thriving in the slot and a bum outside than slightly improve outside and drastically weaken the inside by putting huff there
as for foles i dont see how you could possibly bring him back short of sanchez being a complete travesty...for one foles was horrible...but more than that is that you cant change qb's with a game left in the season or for the playoffs...if somehow foles pulls a TO and is ready to comeback for lets say the seattle game then there is a descision to be made
The offensive line is why Shady is not the same. You don't need to write War & Peace over it.
It's a combination of things. Shady is not taking what the defense gives him is part of it. He used to do his jump cut, we'd all cringe, then he'd break off a 10-20 yard run. Now he's doing it and defense are all over it. Teams are focused on stopping him this season. They've been daring Foles/Sanchez to beat them. The LBs and safeties on Carolina were drifting towards the line, once he got the hand off they were closing gaps. The fortunate part is it left the middle of the field open for Matthews.
hes clearly not the same runner as last year....but hes still averaged 90 yards a game over the last month...only two rb's in the nfl avg that many yards a game....and i guarantee chris polk or darren sproles would not be one of them if they were a starter
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Quote from: LBIggle on November 12, 2014, 11:01:55 PM
the real question is does chip make the hard decision if these guys don't turn it around by the playoffs. by that i mean mccoy with his dancing around when sproles and polk usually have no problems getting yards at a clip. keeping foles on the sideline if sanchez proves he's capable of not turning the ball over and managing the game. and putting matthews on the outside. obviously the last one being the least likely to happen but with the NFC being weak this year i don't see how you can't make a run for it. but by doing that you can't have dummies doing dumb things on a "smart " football team. back pedaling, dancing, and whatever the hell cooper is doing isn't going to get you deep in the playoffs.
you could tell immediately this year that shady had lost something from last year....thats said he is going nowhere nor should he...did barry sanders get benched for backpeddling?....shadys getting nine people in the box much of the time...chris polk is getting zero attention and sproles runs the ball five times a game and two of them are screens...people arent game planning for darren sproles....without pimp shady is the one player that makes defenses change....make polk or sproles the starting half back and give them 20+ carries a game and watch how fast you wish shady was back
one thing id like to see them do with shady more...especially when the run game is struggling is to get him out in some space and throw him the ball...i know sporles has cut into this a little bit but he isnt involved in the passing game at all this year...forget the obvious mismatch advantages you have with him out there but it also will keep him involved when he isnt gaining anything on the ground
you basically said it yourself but id be shocked ife matthews gets moved outside...not only is he playing really well inside but if you move him you drastically weaken the slot...id rather have a guy thriving in the slot and a bum outside than slightly improve outside and drastically weaken the inside by putting huff there
as for foles i dont see how you could possibly bring him back short of sanchez being a complete travesty...for one foles was horrible...but more than that is that you cant change qb's with a game left in the season or for the playoffs...if somehow foles pulls a TO and is ready to comeback for lets say the seattle game then there is a descision to be made
i don't see him "benching" mccoy as much as i see him giving some more carries to sproles. especially when the games start mattering more and if mccoy still isn't producing. hell i see mccoy waving himself out on important 3rd downs and drives now too. also sproles hasn't been utilized enough in the offense especially recently. i don't know if their still gun shy from his injury or what.
i agree on matthews staying inside.. moving cooper inside when he doesn't create a match up problem with anyone in the NFL doesn't really help the team, especially if matthews is comfortable in the slot right now. even though it's technically a "promotion" they run 3 WR sets so much he shouldn't have a problem making an impact. i'd rather see huff in for matthews at this point and he's been brutal.
never thought i'd be pulling so hard for mark sanchez.
Quote from: Rome on November 13, 2014, 07:29:54 AM
The offensive line is why Shady is not the same. You don't need to write War & Peace over it.
the line is back. i don't think todd heremeans being out got shady bottled up against a zesty d.
Quote from: SD on November 13, 2014, 07:37:28 AM
It's a combination of things. Shady is not taking what the defense gives him is part of it. He used to do his jump cut, we'd all cringe, then he'd break off a 10-20 yard run. Now he's doing it and defense are all over it. Teams are focused on stopping him this season. They've been daring Foles/Sanchez to beat them. The LBs and safeties on Carolina were drifting towards the line, once he got the hand off they were closing gaps. The fortunate part is it left the middle of the field open for Matthews.
i agree he's being targeted more especially with jackson gone not spreading the field as much. i think that's why chip is going so pass heavy this year. however i do see mccoy isn't making people miss as much. he doesn't seem to have that extra spring in his step.
The offensive line he ran behind last year hasn't played a single play together all year. They've been much better since Lane Johnson came back, but the defenses they've faced have keyed on stopping the run too. No doubt about it.
the offensive line excuse was valid vs. washington and the 49ers...those were disasters
against everyone else they had 3/5ths or 4/5ths of the line. in fact they ran pretty well the last few weeks, the carolina game was a different story. when you have no deep threat and a looming disaster at qb, what do you think defenses are going to focus on?
the all world RB? maybe?
so what you are all saying is there are smart DC's in the league ?
Quote from: smeags on November 13, 2014, 02:54:57 PM
so what you are all saying is there are smart DC's in the league ?
They can't all be Sean McDermott and Juan Castillo.
Shady isn't the same runner he was last year, line problems or not. There's not a lot of difference, but that amounts to a big difference. He just doesn't have that extra pop. Plus that dancing. He had too many touches last year and lost that extra gear. Wouldn't kill him to just dip a shoulder and deliver a good hit or straight arm once in a blue moon. He trusts his shiftiness too much and his speed not enough (at least now, that he's regained some of that speed since the earlier season).