25 years ago this week I got married on a Saturday, saw Joe Montana eviscerate the best defense I've ever seen on Sunday, and started my honeymoon in Bermuda on Monday.
Go...
Thread title win.
Game, not so much. If they fall behind to SF, they aint pulling that one out.
Watching the niners' defense devour this o-line should be a real hoot.
Niners haven't been really devouring anyone.
Line opened at -4 SF and is up to -5.5 at last check. Keep climbing so I can grab the Birds
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 22, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
Thread title win.
Game, not so much. If they fall behind to SF, they aint pulling that one out.
Niners have scored 3 pts second half all year so perhaps they can actually.
That being said - I think this is a brutal spot. Niners need a win badly. Eagles are walking wounded. At San fran following an emotional game.
This pertains to the Washington thread but I'm sick of talking about those dickheads...
So...
http://vimeo.com/106839456
sf winning probably doomed the eagles chances...i wont say i would have liked the spot but i would feel decent about the eagles chances if the niners had won
(http://www.506sports.com/2014/04-FOX-L-P.png)
Buck/Aikman/Andrews again
line is up to 5
all the sharps must be on SF
Feels like a hard-fought loss. Hope I'm wrong. If they pull this one out-- against a talented team in desperate need of a win and with Foles/McCoy behind a 3rd string Oline-- I'll be bought into them being better than I thought.
That video give me goosebumps.
I don't see the Eagles winning this one, the oline scares me. But if they can put it all together and get it done in the red zone with some consistency they have a chance. Foles will be lucky not to take a beating. He seems tough after last week but how many hits can this guy take without getting injured?
san francisco will be the first team the eagles have played this year that either isnt jacksonville or doesnt have their only win against jacksonville
Jags have given up 119 pts. a 39.7 avg.
Eagles are in the top five in a lot of power rankings, most likely get exposed this week.
Finally, they're playing a real team that got their only win against Dallas. This game will surely tell us if the Eagles are for real or not.
I might actually get to watch this game, perfect timing for a loss.
ESPN, NFL.com, and CBS all have them in their top five power rankings. I guess there is some national love for Foles and Kelly. I just don't see it.
Peters
Tobin
Molk
Kelly
Herremans
That's your OL this week
luckily the niners have just four sacks and have struggeled getting near the qb...then again someone has to win the LOS
Quote from: shorebird on September 23, 2014, 01:19:50 PM
ESPN, NFL.com, and CBS all have them in their top five power rankings. I guess there is some national love for Foles and Kelly. I just don't see it.
They have the best offense in the NFL and a highly innovative head coach. They were practically built for prime time.
Which part are you having trouble understanding, Shore?
Quote from: Rome on September 23, 2014, 01:38:26 PM
Quote from: shorebird on September 23, 2014, 01:19:50 PM
ESPN, NFL.com, and CBS all have them in their top five power rankings. I guess there is some national love for Foles and Kelly. I just don't see it.
They have the best offense in the NFL and a highly innovative head coach. They were practically built for prime time.
Which part are you having trouble understanding, Shore?
i think hes saying that they arent getting enough love nationally...not why are they getting so much
I think he's saying he likes Elijah Cummings more than Andy Harris.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 23, 2014, 12:57:56 PM
san francisco will be the first team the eagles have played this year that either isnt jacksonville or doesnt have their only win against jacksonville
Indy will be good this year. Still think SF needs this for their season so I expect them to get it but indy was a tough spot too and they pulled it out so who knows.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 23, 2014, 01:56:16 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 23, 2014, 01:38:26 PM
Quote from: shorebird on September 23, 2014, 01:19:50 PM
ESPN, NFL.com, and CBS all have them in their top five power rankings. I guess there is some national love for Foles and Kelly. I just don't see it.
They have the best offense in the NFL and a highly innovative head coach. They were practically built for prime time.
Which part are you having trouble understanding, Shore?
i think hes saying that they arent getting enough love nationally...not why are they getting so much
No
Im saying they don't have a online or an offense that scores with any cosistancey in the red zone so I dont get how they have the best offense in the league. And that not taking into account the swiss cheese defense..
Quote from: Diomedes on September 23, 2014, 01:57:34 PM
I think he's saying he likes Elijah Cummings more than Andy Harris.
Besides the fact Harris is a repup lets leave politics out of the football threads...mmkay?
Quote from: shorebird on September 23, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
Im saying they don't have a online or an offense that scores with any cosistancey in the red zone so I dont get how they have the best offense in the league. And that not taking into account the swiss cheese defense..
who does have a consistent offense to this point ?
Quote from: shorebird on September 23, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
Im saying they don't have a online or an offense that scores with any cosistancey in the red zone so I dont get how they have the best offense in the league.
i like their offense right now dont get me wrong but they have played the colts jags and wash...not exactly top defenses in the nfl
With a kicker thats leading the league in scoring and the fact that special teams scored a TD last week just how good is this offense really? Chances are they lose two out of the last three without Parkey and probably the last game if special teams doesnt run one back
Quote from: smeags on September 23, 2014, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: shorebird on September 23, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
Im saying they don't have a online or an offense that scores with any cosistancey in the red zone so I dont get how they have the best offense in the league. And that not taking into account the swiss cheese defense..
who does have a consistent offense to this point ?
Denver maybe but thats it. I think they got lucky against Indy. A few calls or non calls went their way for shore. Play them 10 times they win maybe three.
Niners are a desperate team. Things are not good at the mining camp. I was in the bay area for business last week and fans were turning on Kapernick already. Defense spots them 21 at Dallas, offense didn't do shtein. Blow a 17-0 lead during new stadium opening then get roughed up at AZ. They lose this Sunday all hell breaks loose.
Denver's O has even been inconsistent beyond the first half of wk1. No running game whatsoever.
Eagles lead the league in pts scored. Some of that is a product of who they've played but the offense has been productive. Whether it will maintain this pace with Molk/Tobin/Kelly is a different question.
I'm assuming since Manneans is being moved to tackle they've given up on Gardner playing if he doesn't have to (didn't study the OLine obviously but he seemed to be the weak link the last two weeks). Tobin was supposed to be the best backup lineman they had so hopefully he's at least serviceable for now. I'm most concerned about Molk for Kelce.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 23, 2014, 03:45:09 PM
Niners are a desperate team. Things are not good at the mining camp. I was in the bay area for business last week and fans were turning on Kapernick already. Defense spots them 21 at Dallas, offense didn't do shtein. Blow a 17-0 lead during new stadium opening then get roughed up at AZ. They lose this Sunday all hell breaks loose.
lol - oh noes! someone might refuse to order a fourth bottle of chardonnay!
I think shore's been slamming the Budweiser's....
Quote from: Rome on September 23, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 23, 2014, 03:45:09 PM
Niners are a desperate team. Things are not good at the mining camp. I was in the bay area for business last week and fans were turning on Kapernick already. Defense spots them 21 at Dallas, offense didn't do shtein. Blow a 17-0 lead during new stadium opening then get roughed up at AZ. They lose this Sunday all hell breaks loose.
lol - oh noes! someone might refuse to order a fourth bottle of chardonnay!
Hey, having a Mimosa thrown in your eyes stings man.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 22, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
Thread title win.
Game, not so much. If they fall behind to SF, they aint pulling that one out.
The same niners who have blown 2nd half leads in the past two games? That niners team?
You don't understand, this 1-2 team is super good!
Face it, we're all a little anxious awaiting Truck Rathman's first post.
Quote from: SunMo on September 24, 2014, 10:41:40 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 22, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
Thread title win.
Game, not so much. If they fall behind to SF, they aint pulling that one out.
The same niners who have blown 2nd half leads in the past two games? That niners team?
Is there another 9ers team out there?
there must be because you think the Eagles can't come from behind on the one in san francisco if they
I think they can come from behind on anyone, doesn't mean they will though.
I also think that SF is desperate for a win and if the Eagles fall behind by 2+ scores that they (SF) will hold on for the win.
Raise your hand if you hate four o'clock games.
I prefer them, as I'm usually finished running around by then, and back home cooking dinner, and all 4 o'clock games are on regular network teevee, so if the Ravens aren't playing, there's a chance I can watch some.
2 a.m. Pacific time this morning, fire alarm pulled at Eagles' hotel in SF. Wake up, sleepy heads.
Dion Lewis whereabouts unknown at present.
oh, here's the schefter link
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/516164691278970880
Eagles - 33
49ers - 27
49ers 28
Eagles 24
Quote from: Rome on September 28, 2014, 08:38:18 AM
Raise your hand if you hate four o'clock games.
liver on vacation raises hand or touches its shoulders for a twenty
49ers 31
Eagles 27
Eagles 31
49ers 17
San Fran is finally exposed as not-elite anymore
Quote from: SD on September 28, 2014, 12:29:19 PM
49ers 31
Eagles 27
i feel great about today.....or maybe i feel great about life
birds 28
liberals 20
matt tobin mvp
erin talking to shady and mac now
she has lost a few mph on her fastball :-[
I want to believe... but I'm not there. Eagles lose a heart-breaker.
Golddiggers 31
Eagles 27
Foles is way off the mark today. He missed wide open Celek and Ertz on back to back throws.
Get it together, Sunshine.
Well that's nice.
Blocked for a TD!!
Well that was awesome.
What's this taking the lead shtein? What's this defensive scoring shtein? They're not following the script!
trey burton made the team because of special teams
not sure henry josey coulda done that
ok ill stop
I literally cannot take listening to Aikman/Buck for three farging hours.
Nope.
Can't.
Has Acho officially now made more plays than Matthews?
jesus kap is a mess
they really should win this
Good job not even mentioning Boykin laying on the ground clutching his knee, Buck.
Thanks to digital antenna, I'm getting Spanish audio but English commercials. It's the best football broadcast I've ever heard.
lol @ the illegal hands to the face horseshtein.
Kaepernick doesn't look comfortable. No clue why they aren't spying. He wants to run right now.
Holy shtein this defense is so awful.
Sickening play by the defense to let Gore go all alone
farg
Nice defense.
earl wolff sucks
Hochuli is flagging the shtein out of everyone
Settle down, Eddie Gunz
I just cant watch this farging garbage today. Horrible defense, penalties, missed throws, no blocking... just can't do it.
I'm out, fellas.
Later...
foles is off again
settle down jesus freak
Rome can't even!
Foles just overthrows people by 2-3 yards every play down field.
Malcolm Pimpkins
Gawd
14 points and nary a point from the offense
kap with a mistake i make in madden
eagles in man all day...play zone...kap thinks he has it and jenkins is right there. then he makes a god damn play on the return, albeit the tackling was terrible
howie!
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 28, 2014, 05:24:34 PM
Foles just overthrows people by 2-3 yards every play down field.
DeSean was fast?
F'n Offense needs to give the D a breather at some point here.
It's be nice if the offense could show up for once. The defense has to be getting tired of having to carry this team.
lol 21 non-offensive points
Hahahah ahah holy shtein!
21 points from DST
S p r o l e s! :o
Chip Kelly's system is so good, he doesn't even need an offense to score...
where are those frauds who were like special teams isnt important, make sure henry josey and matt tucker get roster spots
IDENTIFY YOURSELVES
I like Darren sproles.
Refs are going to run out of flags at this rate.
D has been good other than busted coverage on Gore TD. Time for O to show up.
Real bad time for a turnover there. SanFran had no momentum.
farging bullshtein. Not close to holding and within 5 yards.
Blatant holding against Eagles NT. Joke.
Yeah that was a missed hold big time
Great catch by Johnson
Now let's see if the farging offense wants to actually play today?
Three and out
farging terrible
farging A
Disgusting
Simply awful
Foles farging sucks
Fire the replay specialist!
Broken record time...let's see if they can have a goddamn sustained drive this time
Keep running on first down.
Another three and out
The OL is a disaster
No protection and no blocking whatsoever
You can't win a football game if you can't score any points on offense.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 28, 2014, 07:15:25 PM
You can't win a football game if you can't score any points on offense.
Or cross midfield?
Chip accepted the penalty??
The farg was he thinking?
Kick a FG and you're down by 5
Now you're about to be down 9
Stupid farg
Do not get that at all. Accepting the penalty, even without them picking up another yard you're still within Dawson's range. Wtf
Defense has had to be on the field for 3 extra possessions due to defensive/ST TDs. They've done all they can. Now you're keeping them on the field. Whatever. Not chippers best game between offense and decisions with challenges and that call.
One TD? Maybe?
Come on O!
Work the short middle stuff. Quit going for the long developing shtein
Please be a catch
What a catch by Maclin.
More Matthews, less (https://imageshack.com/a/img812/8631/wwlt.gif)ooper please
Cut Maclin?
Terrible play call there.
Terrible. Safety please.
Did Andy Reid call those last two plays?
Jesus Christ that's awful.
Stupid block in the back.
Even I know you run it on 3rd down there, and i've never played a down of organized football. :boom
lol @ block in the back
lol @ these ridiculous penalties
Just great with those penalties guys. Now that punt from their endzone is equivalent to a punt all the way to the other endzone.
San Fran's been all over Chip's play calls today
Disgusting.
Freddie Mitchell would have caught that
0 points of offense. Also not super reactionary but not sure Foles is going to be long term answer. Hoculi was awful all around and terrible play calling but Foles has been pretty zesty 3 wks now.
Hopefully today's offense was a one-off, rather than what we can expect until Mathis and Kelce are back. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of hope.
What a foul effort
The play calling by Chip on the 3rd and 4th and goals was atrocious
They deserved to lose. farging clowns
Oh, come on... Foles is playing behind a patchwork piece of shtein offensive line that is littered with cast-offs and nobodies. They can't run the ball with these losers, so that takes away any chance for the play action game to take hold. That 90 yard drive was a thing of beauty and only idiotic play-calling from Kelly prevented them from scoring.
Can't run
Turning the ball over
Stupidity from The Smartest Guy In The Room aka Chip
chip didnt trust his o-line...point blank plain and simple
inside the 2 for 2 plays and they run a gay fade and an even gayer rollout
frustrating but in reality they were beyond lucky to be in the game. cant win them all. were always going to lose this one. bring on st louie.
Have to see how they do when the line is healthy, hard to put together a passing game when last year's league leading rusher is averaging 1 yard per carry.
They were at the two yard line. Even if he gained one yard per carry they'd have a touchdown there. Horrible play-calling.
Oh, and nice job by Cary Williams again. Time to cut bait with that farging loser.
on 3rd down maybe you try a run there....you can always second guess play calling. bottom line is the line is horrible. herremans is not a tackle. if they run into the line twice everyone is whining for play action.
the eagles are 3-1 and lost a game they were always going to lose. drink the pain away and come back strong tomorrow gents.
I hate roll outs after second down in goal to go situations
You cut he field in half. And you cut it in half with an immobile QB!
One yard. Two downs to get it. You run the goddamn ball behind Peters.
Oh and KKKooper dropped another ball in the end zone too. He's a bum
Boy, these were some zesty teams playing today.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2014, 08:23:42 PMOh and KKKooper dropped another ball in the end zone too. He's a bum
im not loving this oafish piece of white trash hick from florida....but that wasnt really a drop. he had the db all over him, and im pretty sure he got his hand on the ball.
Quote from: Rome on September 28, 2014, 07:55:39 PM
Oh, come on... Foles is playing behind a patchwork piece of shtein offensive line that is littered with cast-offs and nobodies. They can't run the ball with these losers, so that takes away any chance for the play action game to take hold. That 90 yard drive was a thing of beauty and only idiotic play-calling from Kelly prevented them from scoring.
I give Foles credit for hanging in taking hits but he hasn't played well this year. Too many passes left on the field. He may not have been the problem but he has been a problem
Again - how is he supposed to play consistently well without an effective offensive line or running game?
Do you think Joe Montana could play well without a line that can block? The answer would be no.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 28, 2014, 08:40:04 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 28, 2014, 07:55:39 PM
Oh, come on... Foles is playing behind a patchwork piece of shtein offensive line that is littered with cast-offs and nobodies. They can't run the ball with these losers, so that takes away any chance for the play action game to take hold. That 90 yard drive was a thing of beauty and only idiotic play-calling from Kelly prevented them from scoring.
I give Foles credit for hanging in taking hits but he hasn't played well this year. Too many passes left on the field. He may not have been the problem but he has been a problem
Yup. I really like Foles' toughness. I'm a fan. I'd really like for him to be the guy for the next 10+ years. But he has missed A LOT of throws this year. And he's missing everywhere....missing deep, short, intermediate, inside, outside....you name it, he's missed it. And these aren't throws made under pressure. These are throws that he's getting protection on. I hope I'm wrong and he's just in a really bad funk or something, but the first 4 games of the season he hasn't even come close to resembling anything from 2013 other than the Dallas and Minny games.
Quote from: Rome on September 28, 2014, 08:43:10 PM
Again - how is he supposed to play consistently well without an effective offensive line or running game?
Do you think Joe Montana could play well without a line that can block? The answer would be no.
he had plenty of time today....stop being a sheep
but in his defense the wr's suck
yea maclin is terrible
you are going to keep crying your wittle tears for pimp until youre out, arent you? come back 0neof0ne! come back! wahhhhhhhhhh!
I don't need pimp but I need better than kkk mack and jordan
Maclin and Matthews are fine
Yes Maclin has been better than I expected this year. He'd have 500 yards if Foles was delivering it. Cooper has been an abomination. Dropped that in the endzone in what was prob Foles best pass today.
exactly
coop should be destroyed....total non factor. might be time to try matthews on the outside and give huff a look in the slot. they are getting nothing from the white trash hillbilly.
reality is they ought to win the next 2 and will go into the bye 5-1. chip has 3 weeks to cook something up for arizona, which if they play like this, will beat the shtein out of them.
Maclin and Matthews will be fine next year, but for this season buckle up for the Ertz-Sproles Show.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2014, 08:53:05 PM
Maclin and Matthews are fine
yeah if calvin johnson is ahead of them
Any receiver named Johnson. I'm not picky.
I'll take the corpse of Jim Johnson over Cooper.
lol @ that contract
but hes white and salt of the earth so WIN
who thinks hes salt of the earth?
When they get in the red zone, he actually becomes a pillar of salt.
let go of pimp
replace him with mack a racist and a rookie
seems smart
yea you know why pimp was cut....stop
cause hes a spade?
lol definitely didnt help
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 28, 2014, 09:24:28 PM
let go of pimp
replace him with mack a racist and a rookie
seems smart
They replaced Jackson with Maclin. That's a dropoff on big play ability, but Maclin is a 70 catch, 900 yard receiver. This season he's on pace for 84 catches and 1400 yars despite how bad the offense is playing. That's on par with what Jackson had last year.
Cooper was insurance in case Maclin got hurt again. Matthews is replacing Avant, and he might get there by next season. He might have been able to improve quicker if Cooper wasn't around. He's on pace for 56 catches, 564 yards. That's better than Cooper or Avant from last season. Meanwhile, Cooper's looking at 60 catches, 500 yards as a starter. More catches than last year, but way less yards. Maybe because they can't stretch the defense. Maybe because Foles can't hit any pass over 15 yards. Either way, Maclin's doing okay as a starter and Cooper isn't.
If Cooper could farging catch (and Foles could hit receivers, but whatever) they'd be okay. And no, nobody's going to hit any of those numbers if they continue playing like garbage. The good news is the schedule is literally full of garbage opponents!
i love stats
I excel at Excel.
Amazing how trolly troll comes blazing back in here spewing the Foles sucks line the minute he loses a tough game with a decimated offensive line and no running game.
And lolololol @ the Desean Jackson pining. The same clown who went 1 for 9 yards the other night - that's what you're missing?
Poooooor IGY.
For anyone else looking to jerk off over stats, and who isn't, Jackson's looking like 60 catches, 828 yards. Fap fap.
ive been here since day one pal
Room for improvement, sure and passing game could be better with Pimp. But even in the era of free agency you don't build a team overnight. Only 2nd year with Chip, and this year was mostly spent on cleaning out Andy's leftovers.
you build with white pac 12 guys
what about black pac 12 players?
josh huff!!
It's pretty obvious the reason why the Eagles are so bad this year is because of race.
Now I'm confused. I thought Foles was too slow to race?
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 28, 2014, 07:53:48 PM
Hopefully today's offense was a one-off, rather than what we can expect until Mathis and Kelce are back. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of hope.
I'm hoping with Lane back and Manneans back to G that the line can stabilize a bit. Kelce loss is huge but hopefully the coaches can get them to play better. At least they only have St. Louis next week and is at home. Definitely need to draft OL and defense next year.
No doubt this team would be better with DeSean. But I can't sit around bitching about the move all season.
so, obviously affirmative action hasn't been taken seriously enough by the eagles in igy's opinion.
Jackson 15 catches 207 yards 1 TD 13.8
Maclin 21 catches 364 yards 3 TDs YPC 17.3
Maclin is the #1 receiver, Desean has Garcon to take some of the heat off him. I'm not saying Jaccson isn't the better player and I understand his big play capability keeps defenses on their heals, but they don't win that game yesterday because he's out of the lineup. Maclin has been fantastic.
Cooper blows.
It's probably been mentioned a few pages back, but the calls after the Ertz fumble were the reason the Eagles lost this game. The D holds and they get called on a ridiculous holding call 2 yards past the LOS. Then Kaepernick throws a TD and there was a blatant holding call on Thornton (was one of the lineman) when Kaepernick was scrambling. Funny how Troy and Buck missed that call and there was no replay. CONSPIRACY.
Hoculi was an abomination. All of those calls you say are spot on including the phantom block in the back which changed the field position 20 yards on the last drive. He was bad for the Niners too. Both pick plays they called for penalties weren't at all. Just a terribly officiated game all the way around.
They lost because they didn't score a point on offense but it was a disastrously officiated game.
Oh and the only thing that bothered me about it was aikman and buck over analyzing ever niners penalty because that was a storyline they were told to talk about going in while ignoring them for the Eagles essentially. Lazy announcing. Could've been worse though, Simms could've done tbe game.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 29, 2014, 11:04:36 AM
They lost because they didn't score a point on offense
exactly....you arent going to win many games scoring ZERO offensive pts
jesus christ that kkk drop
You're going to have to be more specific.
is there anything in life worse than an excruciating football loss
Reading your comments after a win.
buuuuuuurn
They got Chip figured out.
NEXT.
It turns out all you needed to do was make his QB throw poorly. Dammit.
Or figure out the audibles...
http://www.49ers.com/video/videos/Micd-Up-Bethea-vs-Eagles/b59c65f5-b277-4265-9f01-7ffb8fe08a64?campaign=social_20141001_32620966
Yup. That's awful.
What chaps my ass is that the Eagles apparently did nothing to deal with the fact that their code had been broken. How do you not have a backup plan for this?
Back up plan was consulting the secret service. Btw I thought chaps didn't have an ass. Not an expert about those things but Chuggie would probably know.
so does this mean vic fangio is the genius not chip?
btw fangio was chips first choice for DC when he was hired
That and Antoine Bethea played one helluva game
chip kelly will be at florida by the winter? georgia? obviously he SUCKS
im still goin with georgia as his next job......would be a perfect fit
who should replace him? gus? obviously this thing is on its last legs.
Quote from: shorebird on September 23, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
Im saying they don't have a online or an offense that scores with any cosistancey in the red zone so I dont get how they have the best offense in the league. And that not taking into account the swiss cheese defense..
Quote from: shorebird on September 23, 2014, 03:33:58 PM
With a kicker thats leading the league in scoring and the fact that special teams scored a TD last week just how good is this offense really? Chances are they lose two out of the last three without Parkey and probably the last game if special teams doesnt run one back
Quote from: Rome on September 23, 2014, 01:38:26 PM
They have the best offense in the NFL and a highly innovative head coach. .
Duhh. They couldn't even score a single point.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 23, 2014, 05:46:11 PM
I think shore's been slamming the Budweiser's....
I think that's getting old.