Alex Henery...he's gotta go.
Stud pass rusher
a safety or two
I like the promise they showed this year. Chip's legit and I think with that solid OL, Foles, DeSean, Shady and Ertz they have a nice core offensively.
#23 pick right now
#22 if GB or SD wins
#21 if both win
Free agents:
Vick, Maclin, Cooper, Thornton (RFA), Geathers, Hunt, Allen, Coleman, Anderson, D.Jones
alex henerereeyery needs to die
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 05, 2014, 12:49:02 AM
Free agents:
Vick, Maclin, Cooper, Thornton (RFA), Geathers, Hunt, Allen, Coleman, Anderson, D.Jones
Vick said after the game he wasn't coming back as a back-up
I would bring back Maclin and Cooper + Coleman, Anderson and Donnie Jones...obviously Thornton since he's a RFA
Vick would come back if no one else wants him as a starter. I hope he finds a job as a starter, but I don't know where he could go.
Both the receivers should come back. No one should be throwing money at a gimpy knee or 47 catches, but you never know. Maybe the taterskins will roll out the limo for a kindred spirit. Or maybe someone will pay him money to be 6'3 and catch a couple dozen passes for 18 yards a piece. Stranger things have happened.
I'd like to see Nate Allen back. Every other defensive player can farg right off.
Jones is a pretty good punter. Might as well keep him until he stops punting good.
My biggest fear tonight was this game was going to come down to Henery. No one has any faith in this guy's leg. Keep Jones.
I agree with GF that I could absolutely see some team throwing a boat load of cash at the chandelier Maclin. I really like Maclin but they need some more beef at WR. That drop by Cooper will haunt me for the next 8 months.
Thank you Mike Vick for some great memories but its time for the midget to move on. His future will be interesting to follow. Won't miss his turnovers and head first slides.
Henery was the 23rd best kicker, percentage-wise, on field goals. From 40 and beyond he was 30th. 21st on kickoff distance, 20th on touchbacks. He's not a very good kicker at all.
My wish list:
1. Stud WR aside pimp, so the shtein that happened tonight doesn't happen again.
2. Legit pass rushers. Hardy anyone?
3. A special teams with a set of balls
4. New kicker or grab an extra need position and we never kick FG's
Quote from: General_Failure on January 05, 2014, 02:23:26 AM
Henery was the 23rd best kicker, percentage-wise, on field goals. From 40 and beyond he was 30th. 21st on kickoff distance, 20th on touchbacks. He's not a very good kicker at all.
That is dreadful. That last kickoff summed it all up.
It will be nice to have a QB take all the first team snaps in the offseason
Quote from: BobbyT on January 05, 2014, 08:01:36 AM
It will be nice to have a QB take all the first team snaps in the offseason
This.
Draft/FA priorities:
DB
DB
DB
DE/LB who can sack
WR
Some Special Teams players who can actually play ST
Short yardage RB
At the position we're drafting replacing Foles isn't a big priority. If he can play at this year's level next year I won't be complaining.
assuming chipper is here for the long haul a stud qb that fits his offense
I'm very confident in the offense moving forward, although it might not be a bad idea to be on the lookout for a LT simply because Peters isn't getting any younger. Not a high priority, but it's something to keep an eye on.
Defense and Kicker should account for like 98% of the personnel moves this off season. I'm still not sold on Billy Davis as the DC, but he did an admirable job overall I suppose. Maybe with an extra stud on the d line and safeties who can actually keep guys in front of them, the defense won't be such a liability.
Chipper's 1st season easily exceeded any reasonable expectations. Anyone who predicted 10-6 + Division Champ was probably predicting the very same outcome in 1998 and 99. Season 2 will be the real test, IMO. Teams have 17 games of film on him now, so will he still be able to keep defenses guessing next year or is he a 1yr wonder? Will he learn from his rookie mistakes? One thing I liked seeing was that ever since the Det game, he started putting Foles under center every now and then, especially in some short yardage situations and late in games.
I'm fine with bringing back Maclin and/or Cooper next year, but I think the Eagles only resign 1 and I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Cooper.
Chung and Henery should be tossed off the Ben Franklin. Allen is whatever. I won't shed a tear if he's gone, won't be thrilled if he stays.
I'm fine with Williams, Fletcher, and Boykin moving forward.
A dominating DT or DE is a must.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2014, 10:20:37 AM
assuming chipper is here for the long haul a stud qb that fits his offense
I really don't think he can run "his" offense in the NFL because the type of QB needed to make it work would get killed. Vick and RGIII type players fit the mold on paper, but when QBs run a lot in the NFL, they get hurt. Ideally, you'd maybe want a QB with Luck or Alex Smith type mobility, but even then you're still not maximizing the big play ability of Chip's offense because it's not like either of those guys are elite runners.
It's just not possible to run the exact same offense in the NFL and I think Chip knows this. Could an Alex Smith make it a little more effective because he runs better than Foles? Sure. But you don't drop Foles to replace him with Smith. And I think (hope) Kelly has already realized that you don't want your QB running with the ball as much in the NFL as he did in college.
Foles needs another weapon. Teams focused on Desean and stopping Shady. If one of those players gets going it opens the rest of the O up, if they both get held in check they don't have another playmaker teams have to worry about. Maybe Maclin can be that other player, I'd still prefer a big fast WR. Foles is/was too worried about making a turnover. That's normal for a young QB. He either grows from this and takes the O to the next level or he's not the guy.
i hope he proves me wrong and one day wins a lot of playoff games but im just not sold on him
hes not just not a running qb hes basically immobile...and imo hes not a good enough passer to be a pocket qb...thats in any offense...as for chippers offense i think you are lowering its ceiling quite a bit by having a sloth run it
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 05, 2014, 10:35:24 AM
A dominating DT or DE is a must.
last night the saints OL was chris partlow and fletcher cox was michaels stepdad....and hes supposed to be their best DL
Thought Foles stepped up the last 1.5 qtrs after being pretty zesty previously. I thought they were going to score if they got the ball back.
Cox got destroyed all night. Really both lines lost the LOS all night. They did against Dallas too.
Pretty much been saying this since week 1, but their biggest need is an edge rusher in the mold of a Peppers/Williams. You get that guy and it changes the dynamic of the D. They can address Safety in free agency. Byrd, TJ Ward, Hitner etc.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 05, 2014, 01:15:10 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 05, 2014, 12:49:02 AM
Free agents:
Vick, Maclin, Cooper, Thornton (RFA), Geathers, Hunt, Allen, Coleman, Anderson, D.Jones
Vick said after the game he wasn't coming back as a back-up
One can only hope. The sooner that clown is gone from the Eagles the better. I despise Vick as a football player ( don't give a shtein about him as a person, I don't know the guy and never will) and he needs to be gone. Henery too. The fact that he can't kick out of the endzone is deplorable for an NFL kicker. Chung isn't even worth wasting time to rant about.
Not sure if we'd be able to trade up high enough in the draft to get a franchise QB. Johnny Football and Bortles will be gone in the top 5 if not top 10, Bridgewater is another Foles, not sure if there's anyone else worth trading up for who'd be a better fit for this offense.
Lots of other areas (looking at you, defense) that need improvement more than the QB position. Foles may not be the best fit for Chip's ideal offense, but as others have posted the pure Ducks offense would get killed in the NFL. Hold on to Foles for another year or two while looking for and developing another QB. I'm not sure what more people want, yeah he's an average scrambler but I can't complain about having the #1 all time TD-INT ratio single season record, the #3 all time QB rating, the #2 passing offense (YPG), #4 in total points. Add the #1 rushing attack and I'm not really sure what more people want from this offense.
There's allot of people around here expecting some guy with the legs of Cunningham, the arm of Payton, the intangibles of Montana and the durability of Favre who will win the SB every season to just drop into our laps.
Quote from: NC_Eagle on January 05, 2014, 01:18:08 PM
Not sure if we'd be able to trade up high enough in the draft to get a franchise QB. Johnny Football and Bortles will be gone in the top 5 if not top 10, Bridgewater is another Foles, not sure if there's anyone else worth trading up for who'd be a better fit for this offense.
Lots of other areas (looking at you, defense) that need improvement more than the QB position. Foles may not be the best fit for Chip's ideal offense, but as others have posted the pure Ducks offense would get killed in the NFL. Hold on to Foles for another year or two while looking for and developing another QB. I'm not sure what more people want, yeah he's an average scrambler but I can't complain about having the #1 all time TD-INT ratio single season record, the #3 all time QB rating, the #2 passing offense (YPG), #4 in total points. Add the #1 rushing attack and I'm not really sure what more people want from this offense.
There's allot of people around here expecting some guy with the legs of Cunningham, the arm of Payton, the intangibles of Montana and the durability of Favre who will win the SB every season to just drop into our laps.
Igy & Todd would still find a reason to bitch.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 05, 2014, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: NC_Eagle on January 05, 2014, 01:18:08 PM
Not sure if we'd be able to trade up high enough in the draft to get a franchise QB. Johnny Football and Bortles will be gone in the top 5 if not top 10, Bridgewater is another Foles, not sure if there's anyone else worth trading up for who'd be a better fit for this offense.
Lots of other areas (looking at you, defense) that need improvement more than the QB position. Foles may not be the best fit for Chip's ideal offense, but as others have posted the pure Ducks offense would get killed in the NFL. Hold on to Foles for another year or two while looking for and developing another QB. I'm not sure what more people want, yeah he's an average scrambler but I can't complain about having the #1 all time TD-INT ratio single season record, the #3 all time QB rating, the #2 passing offense (YPG), #4 in total points. Add the #1 rushing attack and I'm not really sure what more people want from this offense.
There's allot of people around here expecting some guy with the legs of Cunningham, the arm of Payton, the intangibles of Montana and the durability of Favre who will win the SB every season to just drop into our laps.
Igy & Todd would still find a reason to bitch.
They'd make up some awful reason that the first SB wouldn't really count because it was against Andy Dalton and the Bengals.
Henery really looked awful playing defense last night. He's personally responsible for the atrocious run defense and should be cut immediately. Or killed. Whatever.
Whoever takes Bortles is gonna be fired within 3 years
Watkins and Mike Evans will fall to the teens if the Eagles wanna trade up, but the WR class appears to be pretty decent after them too (Marqise Lee, Brandin Cooks, Jordan Matthews, Allen Robinson, Davante Adams, Kelvin Benjamin if he declares, and the two LSU guys Beckham Jr and Landry). Clinton-Dix is the only safety worth taking and he'll likely go in the 15-25 range, and the top 10 CBs are all 6'0" and under, so any upgrades to the secondary should be in FA. Notre Dame has a couple of DL that might fit here too: Louis Nix III (6'2" 345 NT, hurt all season) and Stephon Tuitt (6'6" 310, raw, can play both DE and DT). Another OLB would be nice too. Kicker is obvious but who's the next Hauschka or Gould? They're all inconsistent. A mobile QB to replace Vick will also be on their shopping list, and I'd like to see them re-sign Donnie Jones. RB and TE should be the only things they don't need
And by the way... the continued bashing of Foles in here is just about the most laughable crock of shtein I've ever read in this nut house. The guy was almost perfect all season but that's not good enough. Absolutely ridiculous.
his success is more of a testament of chippers offense than nick himself
foles is by no means bad...hes actually pretty decent...but a mobile qb would send the offense to a different level, one it cannot achieve with the immobile statue it has now
So the system actually threw all those touchdown passes, not Foles?
the system will make a lot of people better than they are.
foles is good...will do fine if hes the qb long term, might even win a title, who knows. but the offense would go to a different level if it had a kaepernick, wilson type....or even someone with a little bit of mobility like luck and rodgers
lol at foles bashing
im not even so much looking at foles thru my eyes....im trying to put put myself in chippers shoes....you cant tell me he isnt sitting in his office at 1am every wednesday scheming his gameplan and saying damn i wish i had more to work with here...before chipper even begins to formulate anything foles takes away an important aspect of his offense....i think he wants more
elsewhere this offseason id look at upgrading defensive coordinator....i wouldnt fire billy davis and start an open search...but if theres maybe an up and coming defensive mind or just someone you really like target them and make an upgrade
Defense seems to be a strong point with this year's FAs, depending on re-signings of course. WR and K look weak, may be best to address those with the draft? No stand out FA QB either.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
lol at foles bashing
im not even so much looking at foles thru my eyes....im trying to put put myself in chippers shoes....you cant tell me he isnt sitting in his office at 1am every wednesday scheming his gameplan and saying damn i wish i had more to work with here...before chipper even begins to formulate anything foles takes away an important aspect of his offense....i think he wants more
elsewhere this offseason id look at upgrading defensive coordinator....i wouldnt fire billy davis and start an open search...but if theres maybe an up and coming defensive mind or just someone you really like target them and make an upgrade
You trash Foles every chance you get just like you trashed Kelly from the moment the Eagles hired him.
You were wrong about both.
While both sides have a valid point, no one is saying how Foles will learn from the mistakes this season and improve on those. He made very few mistakes and taking sacks were a lot of those few mistakes. Chipper will also learn to not call an obvious pass on first down every farging drive. Brady, Manning, Rodgers don't give away sacks. Foles will get there too. For all the intangibles Foles lacks, he makes up for them with his decision making. With this season under his belt, he will improve on it this season and the game will slow down for him that much more. It's becasue of his decision making we all felt if we got the ball back last night they would have scored.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
lol at foles bashing
im not even so much looking at foles thru my eyes....im trying to put put myself in chippers shoes....you cant tell me he isnt sitting in his office at 1am every wednesday scheming his gameplan and saying damn i wish i had more to work with here...before chipper even begins to formulate anything foles takes away an important aspect of his offense....i think he wants more
I don't disagree with this. I don't think Chip is ready to tie himself to Foles long term, but I also think that Foles the 1 thing that's keeping Chip's offense from being an NFL bust. Having a QB run as much as Chip wants to in the NFL will get your QB killed. Before Vick got hurt, this offense really only played about 6 immpressive quarters of football. It's great for college, esp the PAC 12 where teams aren't loaded with NFL talent at every position on defense, but it just won't work in the pros.
Quoteelsewhere this offseason id look at upgrading defensive coordinator....i wouldnt fire billy davis and start an open search...but if theres maybe an up and coming defensive mind or just someone you really like target them and make an upgrade
Agreed. I'm "ok" with him coming back. He shouldn't be fired simply for the sake of firing him.
I won't dump my girl and start looking for a new one, but if Jessica Beil ever returns my call and wants to hook up, then I'm dropping Squaw back off on the Rez.
Quote from: Rome on January 05, 2014, 04:06:41 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
lol at foles bashing
im not even so much looking at foles thru my eyes....im trying to put put myself in chippers shoes....you cant tell me he isnt sitting in his office at 1am every wednesday scheming his gameplan and saying damn i wish i had more to work with here...before chipper even begins to formulate anything foles takes away an important aspect of his offense....i think he wants more
elsewhere this offseason id look at upgrading defensive coordinator....i wouldnt fire billy davis and start an open search...but if theres maybe an up and coming defensive mind or just someone you really like target them and make an upgrade
You trash Foles every chance you get just like you trashed Kelly from the moment the Eagles hired him.
You were wrong about both.
lol....three months of games and the eagles have vince lombardi coaching up joe montana....i love homers
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 05, 2014, 04:09:28 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
lol at foles bashing
im not even so much looking at foles thru my eyes....im trying to put put myself in chippers shoes....you cant tell me he isnt sitting in his office at 1am every wednesday scheming his gameplan and saying damn i wish i had more to work with here...before chipper even begins to formulate anything foles takes away an important aspect of his offense....i think he wants more
I don't disagree with this. I don't think Chip is ready to tie himself to Foles long term, but I also think that Foles the 1 thing that's keeping Chip's offense from being an NFL bust. Having a QB run as much as Chip wants to in the NFL will get your QB killed. Before Vick got hurt, this offense really only played about 6 immpressive quarters of football. It's great for college, esp the PAC 12 where teams aren't loaded with NFL talent at every position on defense, but it just won't work in the pros.
vick is a pos...he cant play qb...and i dont think chipper necessarily wants a running qb but for his offense to run at top speed needs a qb who can run...foles is a ZERO threat
and again not just chipper but any coach wants personnel to allow them to run their system...but when you are specifically talking about a guy like chip who doesnt run a pro set but is a football junkie innovator type hes always looking for new wrinkles and foles prevents some of that...i mean christ you can even roll him out
Quote from: MDS on January 05, 2014, 02:29:39 PM
the system will make a lot of people better than they are.
You say this based on what?
Quote from: MDS on January 05, 2014, 02:29:39 PM
foles is good...will do fine if hes the qb long term, might even win a title, who knows. but the offense would go to a different level if it had a kaepernick, wilson type....or even someone with a little bit of mobility like luck and rodgers
People have been talking about "Chip's system" and "what Chip wants" ever since the guy was hired and people continue to ignore the fact that the only one that knows 100% what's Chip's system is and what he wants is Chip Kelly himself. And he has actually said, time and time again that he doesn't need a running QB to run his offense. That has been proven over the course of this year and yet people continue to hold on this ridiculous narrative for some reason.
chip is not going to admit that he needs a mobile qb to run his offense....that would alienate foles....but give him a bottle of truth serum and im quite certain what hed tell you
also too many people confuse "running qb" with a qb who can run....ben roethlesburger has won a ton of games in this league with his legs but hes not a running qb...altho that isnt exactly the kind of qb chippers offense would thrive on
no one is asking for mike vick....but his offense would be more explosive and would allow him to do many more of things he wants to with a qb who can run...thats not a shot at foles its just fact...the question is not whether the offense would be better....the question is how satisfied is chipper with having foles as his qb....that is the unknown...i dont discount the possibility that while not ideal he is fine with moving deep into the future with foles as his man
Kelly took a 4-12 last place team and turned them into a division winner. Two months ago you were baying for his head like a scalded bitch. Foles turned in one of the most impressive seasons in the history of the NFL and here you are again calling for someone else to QB the team. It's unbelievably retarded.
Is this Joe Montana & Bill Walsh all over again? I don't know. Probably not but at least I'm willing to see what happens based on what I saw this season, though.
chip kelly's offense would be better with a qb who isnt a complete statue is a fact...not an opinion
of course that qb shouldnt be someone who sucks but has legs like vick. you can find a ton of qbs who are mobile who couldnt put up half the production foles will and has.
no one is saying foles sucks or they should replace him. but watching this offense it makes you wonder how much better they could be if they had a qb who could, you know, move.
Quote from: MDS on January 05, 2014, 05:17:49 PM
chip kelly's offense would be better with a qb who isnt a complete statue is a fact...not an opinion
of course that qb shouldnt be someone who sucks but has legs like vick. you can find a ton of qbs who are mobile who couldnt put up half the production foles will and has.
no one is saying foles sucks or they should replace him. but watching this offense it makes you wonder how much better they could be if they had a qb who could, you know, move.
Foles isn't the long term guy, but that there are
much bigger holes to fill this off-season than QB. Yes he's slightly more mobile than Marino, but he doesn't turn the ball over, has good smarts and a decent arm. (He threw 40 yards in the air to Pimp rolling out to the sideline, and at least as far on the PI penalty play, he may not leave impressions of the ball in his receivers but that will get the job done on 90% of plays)
No QB in free agency would be half as good as, much less better than Foles. A few potentials in the draft but we'd have to give away half our picks to trade up high enough and the draft is always a crap shoot to begin with.
Could take a shot at somebody in the lower rounds, but honestly I don't know this year's QB class that deep.
Unpredictable: That Nick Foles would become the starting QB, put up the second-highest passer rating of all time, throw fewer INTs all year than Andrew Luck throws in one playoff win, arguably outplay Drew Brees in a playoff game, and potentially receive some MVP votes.
Predictable: That hippos would still be obsessed with the idea of replacing him with an imaginary clone of 1990 Randall Cunningham.
Quote from: MDS on January 05, 2014, 05:17:49 PM
chip kelly's offense would be better with a qb who isnt a complete statue is a fact...not an opinion
Not to pick on you, but again, you say this based on what?
This is the first year and the first time that Chip has run his offense in the NFL and not only is it NOT the same as the one he ran in Oregon (by his own admission) but it set all sorts of records with Foles at the helm.
I can't help but wonder what more some of you guys are looking for.
Chip can still go with whatever people like igy and mds think is his prototypical qb...the Eagles still have all their picks and Foles value will never be higher. Chip is innovative bough to fit a qb into whatever system he wants to run. Why draft Barkley instead of some mobile qb... Or not draft a qb at all? None of the elite qbs fit Chips system but he's not ditching th because of that.
QuoteMoving on, is Nick Foles the Eagles franchise quarterback?
Yes, yes, a hundred times yes. He has proven he can deliver with the game on the line, he has proven himself a winner, and he has proven himself worthy of the "quarterback-of-the-future" lapel pin. Drink the Collinsworth Kool-Aid if your thirsty for pessimism, but the basic truth is Foles is beyond adequate, and there's every reason to believe he will only improve.
Drafting another quarterback who may or may not prove more adequate is a waste of time, energy and resources.
Consider this when evaluating Foles: if he were drafted in the first round, would we even be having this debate?
After all, if you compare Foles stats this year to Donovan McNabb's from his second season, the Napoleon Dynamite lookalike presents a clear-cut better option. Foles had a higher completion percentage, more yards per attempt, more yards per game, more touchdowns, and fewer turnovers. Perhaps most notably (for all those drinking out of Chris Collinsworth's glass) he took less sacks.
And remember: In McNabb's second year he was coming off a full offseason as the starter, a luxury Foles didn't receive.
Foles statistics were freakishly good this year; so freakish they seem too rare for duplication. However there's every reason to believe #9 will come back in 2014 an even better quarterback. No matter who the Eagles could draft come April, it would most certainly be a downgrade. Let's get the hashtag started: #StickWithNick
So whats next for the Eagles?
New safeties, more pass rushers, special teams depth, and for the love-of-lard a kicker who looks like an actual football player. Most of the other weaknesses on this roster are manageable. Mychael Kendricks and DeMeco Ryans struggle against the pass, Cary Williams and Bradley Fletcher won't make someone disappear, and Jason Kelce and Evan Mathis can't crush through a D-Line when you need six inches. All of these roadblocks, however, can be driven around.
-Eric Marmon
other than riley's drop which i think would have been a game changer, all of those 5 yard QB sneaks by brees still make me the most angry.
22nd pick in every round except the 6th (NE) and possibly the 7th (TB if that pick was given up in the Benn deal). They also have NE's 5th from the Sopoaga deal
Quote from: TexasEagle on January 05, 2014, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 05, 2014, 05:17:49 PM
chip kelly's offense would be better with a qb who isnt a complete statue is a fact...not an opinion
Not to pick on you, but again, you say this based on what?
This is the first year and the first time that Chip has run his offense in the NFL and not only is it NOT the same as the one he ran in Oregon (by his own admission) but it set all sorts of records with Foles at the helm.
I can't help but wonder what more some of you guys are looking for.
the fact that he cant even begin to run the read option...or a rollout...or a boot....or anything beyond a 3-7 step drop
im not begging them to ditch foles. i think they can win with him. but its impossible watch this offense and not wonder what it would be like if they had someone with legs who didnt completely suck (i.e. vick)
Is Foles going to replicate this season's stats? Highly unlikely.
But he showed beyond any doubt that he can be a starting QB in this league. With additional seasoning and coaching he will just get better. The small things like when to bail on a play, when to not take sacks, etc will be learned with time.
No one can say with certainty that Chip would dump him for someone else.
I am disappointed with the result yesterday because I believed if they made it past NO then they were going to beat CAR and then who knows what happens if they end up hosting SF if they took out SEA.
But despite the disappointment and gnawing anger of losing that game this season was still successful because no one thought this year would play out like it did.
What kills me is Foles is the reason this mediocre team caught fire at the midpoint of the season, but hey, let's get someone else in here because whoever that is he has to be better.
What they need is a better defense, a better field goal kicker, etc.
Quote from: MDS on January 05, 2014, 08:04:52 PM
Quote from: TexasEagle on January 05, 2014, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 05, 2014, 05:17:49 PM
chip kelly's offense would be better with a qb who isnt a complete statue is a fact...not an opinion
Not to pick on you, but again, you say this based on what?
This is the first year and the first time that Chip has run his offense in the NFL and not only is it NOT the same as the one he ran in Oregon (by his own admission) but it set all sorts of records with Foles at the helm.
I can't help but wonder what more some of you guys are looking for.
the fact that he cant even begin to run the read option...or a rollout...or a boot....or anything beyond a 3-7 step drop
im not begging them to ditch foles. i think they can win with him. but its impossible watch this offense and not wonder what it would be like if they had someone with legs who didnt completely suck (i.e. vick)
That makes no sense. The read option is a play, like the screen passes, not a staple of the offense and not the offense itself. And they've run it all year long with Foles. They scored a TD on it in the game yesterday! Collinsworth was yapping about it during one of the few times I didn't have the TV muted.
The offense is more than fine just the way it is. They had the top rusher and the top passer in the league with the offense, and were 2nd in the league in total offense only behind the "score a million points per game" Denver Broncos.
Wondering how someone else might do is one thing, but your "Fact" is completely a facet of your imagination. There's nothing wrong with the offense as it is.
Quote from: Rome on January 05, 2014, 08:42:07 PM
What kills me is Foles is the reason this mediocre team caught fire at the midpoint of the season, but hey, let's get someone else in here because whoever that is he has to be better.
What they need is a better defense, a better field goal kicker, etc.
Really! I'm so glad that fans have no bearing on the decisions made for this team. I can't believe some people actually want to get rid of Foles (not so much here but I've seen that in more than a few places).
I gotta say that...even though we lost yesterday (we, otherwise you wouldn't feel so pissed off)...this is upcoming season is one of the few in recent memory that I will be amped up and excited for its start. So many things to build on...holes we can identify...Free Agency, the Draft...this team showed it had better than a puncher's chance. With some luck, and a healthy season...I think we can realistically declare this team Superbowl eligible this upcoming season.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 05, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
No one can say with certainty that Chip would dump him for someone else.
honestly i dont know how you could move on from him after the season he had...because there is no guarantee you will get someone better....what probably will happen is that foles will regress...something that is pretty much guaranteed and then you look for the better fit in 2015...if chip is even here then...
you have to remember that foles had a magical year from his offensive line where the starting five basically played 100% of the snaps...that will never happen again...three of them are 32 years old or older...all it would take is for one or two of them to go down and foles is in trouble as he is terrible against any pressure because of his inability to move away from it and his weak arm which doesnt allow him to throw threw it
Quote from: hbionic on January 05, 2014, 10:34:15 PM
With some luck, and a healthy season...I think we can realistically declare this team Superbowl eligible this upcoming season.
you can make the argument that they will never have a more healthy season than they had this year...odds are next season it goes the other way in terms of health...also they had a nice schedule this year....they only beat one team that made the playoffs and that was green bay without arron rodgers...a sizable regression is due for the team as a whole next year...luckily the division looks to be weak again...soecuaking of the schedule here are the 2014 out of division opponents....
homecarolina
seattle
jacksonville
st louis
tennessee
roadarizona
green bay
houston
indianapolis
san francisco
lol
chip sounds downright suicidal on wip right now...so nice to hear the coach be as upset as the fans
It would be pretty laughable if they moved on from Foles at this point. He's proven, at the very least, that he's not the problem. It's not like this team doesn't have legitimate holes (see: secondary) and can afford to worry about replacing the guy who was one of the league's best QBs this year by just about any measure. I'd like to see them bring Maclin back, though not at any cost. A reliable kicker would be great. And while the defense improved over the season, they still don't inspire confidence. That side of the ball still needs a ton of attention.
A sizable regression is due for the team next year? I don't think so. It will be Chips second year, and Foles should be the number one starting the season getting all the snaps in pre season. Make the D better in the draft and with Maclin coming back I think this team can get better.
The Maclin return isn't a sure thing, though I think it makes sense for both sides at least on a short-term deal to prove he's past the injury. That said, you can't know exactly what you're getting there and I think they'd have to plan accordingly.
IGY is right about the good fortune the team had with health on the O-line and Shady. I think this is a very shallow team but I like the direction that the coach is taking the team but we need a solid draft/FA period.
I would love to see Maclin in this offense but I agree to not break the bank.
Quote from: shorebird on January 06, 2014, 08:19:02 AM
A sizable regression is due for the team next year? I don't think so. It will be Chips second year, and Foles should be the number one starting the season getting all the snaps in pre season. Make the D better in the draft and with Maclin coming back I think this team can get better.
i will be shocked if foles doesnt take a step or three back next year....but even if that doesnt happen the team as a whole could actually be better and have a worse record with that schedule....and yes i know its really early to be talking schedules but i dont think its a reach to say that its going to be substantially more difficult next year
my offseason wish list:
1. stud wr in the draft with size
2. pass rusher
3. DT
4. OL depth and/or a young replacement for herremans
the biggest offseason question to me is how good is earl wolff going to be...they need a strong safety so bad and it cant be overstated how important it is for him to become a player...because in theory you arent going to draft one high or spend a lot on one in FA if you believe hes the answer...however if you dont bring a day one starter in from the outside and wolffman flops its a gigantic setback
i don't know if anybody posted this but here are their games next year
Philadelphia Eagles
Home: Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Washington taterskins, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans
Away: Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Washington taterskins, Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, Green Bay Packers, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts
Certainly looks to be a tough schedule...Thankfully they have at least five wins from the NFC East...because the rest of the division will not be getting any better.
I'm in on the Niners trip.
awesome home schedule :paranoid
I want to see Lambeau...
and they come to Houston...yeah!
def in for houston or dallas. gotta go visit some family down there.
id like to see lambeau as well
we scheduled a family vacation for Disney from 9/27 to 10/4. i told my wife that i was all in on the rides the lines all the BS but that i was going to go to a bar and watch the eagles on 9/28. i fully expect it to be a great home game because that's what happens anytime i am away for a game.
Quote from: SunMo on January 06, 2014, 11:06:43 AM
we scheduled a family vacation for Disney from 9/27 to 10/4. i told my wife that i was all in on the rides the lines all the BS but that i was going to go to a bar and watch the eagles on 9/28. i fully expect it to be a great home game because that's what happens anytime i am away for a game.
Not to hijack this thread but if you're staying at a Disney resort get the magic wristbands (they're free). You can go on your smart phone the night before and plan your fast passes for the good rides. It does it for your entire party.
i would do green bay, san fran or even indy next year.
QuoteJeff McLane @Jeff_McLane 14m
LeSean McCoy to Michael Vick as he dumped stuff in a trash bag at his locker stall: "Don't pack your shtein. You're going nowhere."
No clue what this is about but...
QuoteLesean McCoy @CutonDime25 9m
@LesBowen lies ... Please don't lie I been really busy.... I haven't seen u yet plus u bugging every player
edit...looked at Les' timeline
QuoteLes Bowen @LesBowen 51m
The NFL's leading rusher and franchise single-season rushing record-holder declines to speak with reporters on breakup day.
les ripped him for not talking to reporters today
Les seems to be getting saltier each year....
he's a sarcastic farg during games
He's awful. Shady is probably tired of that ish.
If the money's available...San Fran and AZ are road trips to me. Green Bay would be the spot to go to. I'm in for Green Bay...unless it's farging snowing...then...what's the point?
Then you bundle up and go...it won't cause you to melt, Californian.
Or you can just hug someone all day for shared warmth
Jason Ashworth from 97.5:
QuoteJayA_975
Believe it if you want, but I'm told #Maclin is re-signing with the #Eagles. To be announced after the playoffs. His words, "Done Deal."
Ok...I guess...maybe I can practice my English accent like in the movie Love Actually...and find a place like that to stay in.
it's weird that i actually believe you are gay more now than when you were perpetrating the ruse
Quote from: hbionic on January 06, 2014, 03:00:04 PM
Ok...I guess...maybe I can practice my English accent like in the movie Love Actually...and find a place like that to stay in.
And then 7 years later you'll be a cop who gets shot and wakes up in the middle of the zombie apocalypse only to find out your cop "partner" is banging some broad.
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 06, 2014, 02:59:12 PM
Jason Ashworth from 97.5:
QuoteJayA_975
Believe it if you want, but I'm told #Maclin is re-signing with the #Eagles. To be announced after the playoffs. His words, "Done Deal."
Good stuff. I hope he recovers fairly well and can do better than 50 receptions.
Glad to hear it with Maclin. Although it wouldn't be a great loss, it would be just one more position to worry about replacing and I could see the Eagles just wanting to offer a prove-it type of contract when Mac would rather take a longer and more secure deal from another team. Getting a 1a type WR in there would be great but it isn't one of the true needs. On the other hand, early projections with the draft look like its setting up nicely that a good WR like Lee or Evans could drop to them.
Maclin is perfect for those underneath routes, he doesn't have the ridiculous football speed to stretch the field like Desean but those 15 yard intermediate routes he's perfect. They needed that type of receiver bad against the Saints. It was way too easy for them to double up on Desean and make him irrelevant. Cooper is just too hit or miss and Ertz I'm not really sold on yet. Still would like a 6'3 230+ guy but unless they're willing to part with an early pick they probably aren't getting one of the top guys in the draft. Maybe they find a diamond in the rough in the mid rounds.
i am absolutely in love with martavious bryant...has really only had one year so its hard to project where he will go and his offseason leading up to the draft will be huge but he is someone id target
i have absolutely no problem with desean, maclin, cooper, rookie, ertz, celek next year.
Quote from: phattymatty on January 07, 2014, 02:08:06 PM
i have absolutely no problem with desean, maclin, cooper, rookie, ertz, celek next year.
I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I do think they need a more dynamic receiver since its wait and see with Maclin. I think that another big play receiver to go opposite of pimp would bring this offense to "another level" and it'll be much easier and cheaper to get that WR than it would be to find the perfect QB.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eagles/Eagles-sign-C-David-Molk.html
eagles need a bigger stronger center...kelce is a trooper....but too many times he gets tossed around like a rag doll
You think? I thought he played very good and is one of the better in the league
he was murdered the last two weeks...i just think in the playoffs when you theoretically are going against the top lines hes going to be exposed...im not suggesting they run out and make it a priority....im not even saying they need to replace him....its definitely a want not a need...i just wish they didnt have a weakling there
power couple....
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1528685_10202977859147899_355393360_n.jpg)
Say what you want about the Ryan brothers, they clearly still love the team/city. Real Recognize Real.
peep the sexy ass ho piece at :06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd8_HTpWgsA
keep Brad Smith
If the Saints win today, will that make you feel that much better about what the Eagles accomplished this season? People are assuming they have no chance, but statistically their D is pretty good, they don't attack like Seattle or cause turnovers but they're effective.
I've never subscribed to the belief that if a team has beaten your team and goes on to win something it's a badge of honor. I think that's stupid, actually.
I hope the Saints get obliterated because they beat the Eagles.
As for who wins the Super Bowl, the only thing I don't want to happen is a first time winner. Another first time winner before the Eagles would be nauseating. Expected but nauseating.
^^^^
correct
what the saints do today has no bearing on what the eagles didnt do last week...especially considering the saints did nothing special last week....the eagles lost that game new orleans didnt win it...saints could win 34-0 today and it wouldnt change the fact that the eagles should be in charlotte right now
alex henery should in be in a shallow grave, regardless
bill lazor is going to be the lions new OC
Saw that. Not sure how big a loss it is, but he did a great job with Foles.
I want Calvin Pryor in the draft. He's my 2014 Earl Thomas. Some mocks have him in the 2nd round but farg it take him at 22 and get your man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDEEAUMJ0oo
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8808055
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJcyDjN9ffI
i like pryor but i actually think he'll already be gone at 22.
well maybe the eagles can trade up and not take him.
Deal!
Quote from: SunMo on January 17, 2014, 10:38:52 AM
well maybe the eagles can trade up and not take him.
HA!
(http://i.imgur.com/xHaE7mF.png)
Just throwing this out there for discussion, seen it posted on a few other discussion forums.
Would you be willing to part with pick #22 for Dion Jordan. He didn't have a great rookie season and doesn't fit into the defensive scheme Miami wants to run. On the one hand he played for Chip and would benefit from the Eagles defensive style of play, on the other hand he could just be a bust. I know they had interest in drafting him before Miami traded up for him. This is a deep draft and some teams like the Browns do the smart thing and get what they can for players that no longer fit (Richardson is a bust). A part of me would like to chance it, another part would like to see where the chips fall in the draft.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sbnation/eagles/SBNation_20140116_Could_the_Eagles_trade_for_Dolphins_DE_OLB_Dion_Jordan_.html
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/01/dion_jordan_to_the_eagles_speculation_begins_it_could_happen.html
in this draft id seriously consider it...its really weak
but im hesitant because i want kelvin benjamin so bad at 22
I'd make that trade in a second.
I'd give it serious consideration. Miami will probably want more than the 1st rounder though, if they are even open to the trade. They have to save face on trading up to take him #3 overall. Luckily that deal was done by the last GM. Miami would be looking at a cap hit, also.
Yeah, I've read about that too. Some beat writer in Miami got it started. The fact that he played at Oregon is, hopefully, irrelevant. It it's not, the team is in trouble. The idea is intriguing and all, but my gut feeling is that Jordan wasn't worth the reach and isn't worth another 1st rounder. I'd keep the pick.
Now, if Miami really wants to move him....how about the Eagles send Brandon Graham and a third.
He's worth a 22nd pick.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 19, 2014, 08:07:35 AM
Yards/Points graph.
Including 2013 Denver in that chart is like including 1945 in charts of the size of the US military.
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 19, 2014, 12:08:00 PM
I'd give it serious consideration. Miami will probably want more than the 1st rounder though, if they are even open to the trade. They have to save face on trading up to take him #3 overall. Luckily that deal was done by the last GM. Miami would be looking at a cap hit, also.
New GM might not care if the player doesn't fit his scheme. The Eagles could throw a player like Graham in. He doesn't hold much value but at least they'd be getting a guy who fits their scheme better and could benefit from a change of scenery.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 19, 2014, 11:53:44 AM
in this draft id seriously consider it...its really weak
but im hesitant because i want kelvin benjamin so bad at 22
I'm on the D bandwagon but if he's there at 22 I can't see passing him up. He's exactly what they need on O.
Bill Musgrave was hired to be the QB coach according to roob on twitter
ex-Eagles and Vikes OC?
Keep him far far away from anything that has to do with playcalling and game plan install
pretty sure chip would keep his own kin away from that.
do they really even need a qb coach with nick foles manning the position
What is happening
hahaha...igy got in Romey's head with that one
Romey don't wanna battle. He shook.
No surprise there, we know the pun is mightier than the sword.
he came at the king and he didnt miss
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20140123_Again__Eagles_go_shopping_for_safeties.html+
I really would like to see the Eagles go after TJ Ward. He's a heavy hitter, was stuck in Cleveland, and played well. Plus being a former duck it could be in the cards.
QuoteHa'Sean "Ha Ha" Clinton-Dix
That's the greatest name I've ever seen, and I'm not even joking.
maybe chip can mix some magic smoothie with pickle juice and a lock of b dawks hair in a beaker over a bunson burner and make a stud safety
I'm pretty sure you'd use a cauldron for that.
Maybe in 1647. Can probably get away with just using a microwave.
I think you guys aren't taking Smoothie Magic serious at all.
Smoothie Magic is serious bidness.
Brad Smith doing an AMA on reddit right now...well 2:00 actually.
http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1vyirt/this_is_brad_smith_ask_me_anything/
Ask him if they found the guys who robbed his house yet.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 23, 2014, 02:51:34 PM
Ask him if they found the guys who robbed his house yet.
lol
(https://lff541.americaneagle.com/assets/news/Eagles2013.jpg)
Foles has seen some shtein, I guess.
Quote from: General_Failure on January 24, 2014, 11:15:51 AM
Foles has seen some shtein, I guess.
Probably those giant smoothies at training camp.
the thousand smoothie stare
Few different sources are saying Maclin re-signed for 2 years. He tweeted "Stay tuned ya'll" a few hours ago. Haven't seen a legit source confirm this yet.
you can read all about it here
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2014/1/31/5366408/rumor-jeremy-maclin-re-signs-eagles-contract
I read the comments on that article and a couple others from that website. I can't believe CF is actually better than multiple Eagles boards. What the farg?
I'd be fine with bringing Maclin back, but I hope they don't stop there at WR.
My perfect offseason goes something like:
TJ Ward
Orakpo
WR taken in the first round
Defense in the 2nd
Defense and O line with the rest of the picks
Quote from: Dillen on January 31, 2014, 09:49:42 PM
I read the comments on that article and a couple others from that website. I can't believe CF is actually better than multiple Eagles boards. What the farg?
The bar for quality social media of any kind is really, really low. One day I think we can reach it.
For some reason I thought you didn't drink.
eagle fans will get to see the superbowl champs in person next season
Seattle's 2014 home opponents: Arizona, San Francisco, St. Louis, Dallas, NY Giants, Denver, Oakland, Green Bay
Lot of good options for thursday opener. Denver being the most obvious. Didn't they just play or something?
Eagles SB odds at The Mirage = 12/1
Eagles SB odds at Venetian/Palazzo = 25/1
Have you seen any O/U wins totals sheets out there?
Nah they usually don't come out until after the draft and FA is done with.
Baseball win totals will be out mid-March
2014 pricing with the new sections
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farg 'em. I'm done.
mine didnt change
my mans seats DECREASED by 20 bucks
From $85 to $95 to $105 in two years.
farg em. I am done with them. I never get to see the games anyway. I'm selling before the tickets get so far out of range for ordinary fans nobody will be able to afford them.
your seats replaced his in the price bracket
his went from 105 to 85
supply and demand romey, supply and demand
get on or get off
I love how the Eagles push the agenda that their tickets are the cheapest in the division. Really? Cheaper than New York, Washington & Dallas?? You don't say.
Just because they can raise ticket prices doesn't mean they should. For a decade they went with a price hike every two years. That allowed STH's to prepare for the increase gradually. Now they're just saying farg it and doing whatever they want because they can.
Fine. Enjoy that tomb with all the Richie Rich's who don't give a flying farg about the team or the game.
PS: I know I sound like a bitter bitch, but I really don't care anymore. It's a gigantic pain in the ass for me financially and I don't need the hassle anymore.
Jeff needs more windmills and his new wife needs some clothes, man. Have a heart!
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/A-complete-rundown-of-the-14-players-the-Eagles-spoke-with-at-the-Senior-Bowl.html
There's a weird line in there, to paraphrase about the good news on the safety position is that it will be addressed again this year as it was last year. But if it was truly addressed last year-- effectively-- it wouldn't need to be addressed again this year. So, get it right so that there doesn't need to be more "good news" about it being addressed yet again next year.
if you think about it its only the media and fans who are saying they need to either get one of the top FA safetys or take one high in the draft...none of us know how the team feels about the wolffman...we dont see him everyday in practice and nothing he did when he played made you think he cant be a player...for all we know they dont consider it a high priority position this offseason
If they don't see it as a priority they should be forced to watch the Super Bowl Clockwork Orange style.
Quote from: Rome on February 07, 2014, 11:05:33 AM
If they don't see it as a priority they should be forced to watch the Super Bowl Clockwork Orange style.
it probably is....hell it could easily be their top priority...but the fact remains that it is a possibility they see wolffman as their strong safety of the future and with nate allens comeback year last season that its not a priority...sometimes critical thinking is needed in these situations rather than just follow the blogs papers and sports radio stations like sheep....because thats their main offseason talking point so far but in reality we dont know
Marty wants Maclin (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/jets-interested-upgrading-wr-target-free-agents-maclin-sanders-article-1.1605461)
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 07, 2014, 11:29:35 AM
Quote from: Rome on February 07, 2014, 11:05:33 AM
If they don't see it as a priority they should be forced to watch the Super Bowl Clockwork Orange style.
it probably is....hell it could easily be their top priority...but the fact remains that it is a possibility they see wolffman as their strong safety of the future and with nate allens comeback year last season that its not a priority...sometimes critical thinking is needed in these situations rather than just follow the blogs papers and sports radio stations like sheep....because thats their main offseason talking point so far but in reality we dont know
We honestly have no clue, but I'll say it sure seemed like they liked what they saw from Wolff early. From a rookie perspective, he learned a new Defense at this level and did well enough for us as eagle fans to not want him launched into the sun. That's encouraging.
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 07, 2014, 11:31:24 AM
Marty wants Maclin (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/jets-interested-upgrading-wr-target-free-agents-maclin-sanders-article-1.1605461)
ny paper say things
can you imagine an organization telling a ny reporter that they covet a guy in free agency...its funny to because the piece says "the daily news has learned" but doesnt even mention "sources"...it literally says nothing about how they learned it not even an 'un-named source' or 'front office sources'
also this is hilarious...
Gang Green not likely to go after Broncos' Eric Decker, may also pursue drafting wideouts if free agent plan falls through, but Maclin and Sanders remain coveted by Gang Green.id have a plan b in mind as well if i just announced to the entire planet who i coveted in free agency
I can tell you've been reading the bible recently. ;)
I'm pretty sure the Jets are interested in just about any WR who wasn't on the Jets last year.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 07, 2014, 11:40:36 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 07, 2014, 11:29:35 AM
Quote from: Rome on February 07, 2014, 11:05:33 AM
If they don't see it as a priority they should be forced to watch the Super Bowl Clockwork Orange style.
it probably is....hell it could easily be their top priority...but the fact remains that it is a possibility they see wolffman as their strong safety of the future and with nate allens comeback year last season that its not a priority...sometimes critical thinking is needed in these situations rather than just follow the blogs papers and sports radio stations like sheep....because thats their main offseason talking point so far but in reality we dont know
We honestly have no clue, but I'll say it sure seemed like they liked what they saw from Wolff early. From a rookie perspective, he learned a new Defense at this level and did well enough for us as eagle fans to not want him launched into the sun. That's encouraging.
Safety is a priority if for none of the obvious reasons other than
they don't have any. Allen, Coleman and Colt Anderson are all free agents. After Wolff, Andre Waters is next on the depth chart. Also, during the senior bowl week over a third of the players the Eagles talked to were DBs, so that is some indication of where they are looking as well.
QuoteThe Eagles signed former Chicago Bears wide receiver Joe Anderson on Friday. It was the team's first acquisition in nearly a month.
Anderson, who is 6-foot-1 and 196 pounds, played nine games during the past two seasons with the Bears. He did not record a catch, spending his time as a special teams contributor. He returned five kicks last season for an average of 16.4 yards, with a long of 21 yards. The Bears placed Anderson on injured reserve last November with an abdominal and groin injury.
Anderson has caught touchdowns in the past two preseasons for the Bears. The 25-year-old played college football at Texas Southern and went undrafted.
Rumors going around that the Packers are looking to slim their DL down to smaller quicker dudes. This could mean BJ Raji is let go.
Do you bring him in to be the NT?
it sounds like the packers are going after the exact kind of players chipper likes....so if they dont want him i cant imagine the eagles would
I like Bennnie Logan but if Davis really wants to run a bona fide 2G 3-4 Bennie doesn't have the size to play that many snaps, at least at this point. He also seemed to get gassed too much for a young guy. I think he can still be effective but has to be a rotational player and needs a fat ass to share snaps with him.
Even though his play has dropped off a bit Raji would be a good fit, but I've read he is looking for too much money (refused an $8/yr deal to re-sign with GB earlier iirc). I doubt he'll get what he's looking for at his age so maybe the Eagles can offer one of their typical deals of good pay but not a lot of guaranteed $, with a window of a second or third year cap friendly cut if he's not working out. NT is probably the most under the radar position they need to upgrade, even though it is just with a guy to take half the snaps.
birds met with kelvin benjamin today FAP
QuoteFlorida State's Benjamin the type of wideout Eagles would love
LES BOWEN, Daily News Staff Writer bowenl@phillynews.com
Posted: Sunday, February 23, 2014, 3:01 AM
INDIANAPOLIS - Kelvin Benjamin, the 6-5, 240-pound Florida State wide receiver who caught the game-winning touchdown pass in the National Championship game, would seem to be exactly the sort of weapon both Eagles fans and Chip Kelly have coveted.
Maybe that's why Benjamin gets mentioned as the Birds' possible first-round selection, at 22nd overall, in a lot of mock drafts, including one from ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr.
Listening to Benjamin recount that title-game winner yesterday at the NFL Scouting Combine definitely set the mind wandering to what Benjamin might do, catching passes from Nick Foles in Kelly's varied, field-stretching attack. The TD that gave the Seminoles a 34-31 victory over Auburn was a classic big receiver-in-the-red-zone grab, Benjamin walling off Auburn cornerback Chris Davis in the middle of the field.
"It was a simple slant route," Benjamin said. "I knew [Florida State coach Jimbo Fisher] was coming back to me. I knew [Davis] was thinking fade, so I was going to try and sell him on that fade route, take three steps out, cut inside him and do what I do best, catch the ball at the highest point."
That's a big-time skill, a combination of size, jumping ability and body control that makes Benjamin elite, despite occasional problems with drops, despite the fact he doesn't have great speed. (Benjamin said yesterday he hopes to run a 4.3 40 here. If that happens, he'll be long gone by the 22nd pick. He could just as easily drop out of the first round, with a slow time.)
A reporter asked yesterday whether the title-winner, scored with 13 seconds remaining, really was the way it looked on those zillion TV replays - did Benjamin actually jump before quarterback Jameis Winston threw the ball, and just hang there until it arrived?
"Yeah, sometimes I like to jump early," said Benjamin, whose 11 career red-zone catches went for 10 touchdowns, according to ESPN Stats & Info. "It throws the DB off."
Benjamin said not getting to play for the national championship the year before was a key point in his development. He said the 2013 season was about "growing up, being a man."
Before that, "I was basically a kid, doing kid things, not putting in the work needed to be a great receiver."
He added: "Seeing the season that we had [in 2012], knowing that we could have gone to the national championship, knowing that we left a lot out there on the field, I just wanted to turn it around for the team."
Benjamin grew up in Belle Glade, Fla., sometimes called "Muck City" because of the mucky soil in which sugar cane grows. The area has produced a lot of elite athletes. Benjamin said that's because poverty nurtures "the determination to be great."
"It's a bad environment down there," he added.
Is it true he used to chase rabbits through the cane fields?
"Everybody chased rabbits back when they were small," Benjamin said. "They was good to eat. They're really good, if you've never had them before. But that also helps with speed and agility and things like that."
Benjamin was held back twice in elementary school, he confirmed, which is why he just turned 23, though his final season at Florida State, he was a redshirt sophomore. He probably could have used more work on the drops and on route-running, but with the draft becoming more and more about 20- and 21-year-olds, waiting longer would have made his age a significant negative.
A team drafting him, Benjamin said, will get "a guy that'll never give up . . . If I need to work on something, my route-running, my techniques, that's what I'm going to do."
"I love press coverages," said Benjamin, who said he measured at 4 percent body fat. USA Today compared him to Plaxico Burress, though presumably not in the way he handles firearms.
Complimented about his ability to gain yardage after the catch, Benjamin linked that talent to one of his shortcomings.
"That was one of my problems, seeing the yards before I start to run, and then I end up dropping the ball. They're called 'focus drops,' you know?"
The draft is still more than 2 months away, but Benjamin probably ranks behind Clemson's Sammy Watkins and Texas A&M's Mike Evans, maybe behind USC's Marqise Lee. He might be in the same ballpark as Penn State's 6-4, 215-pound Allen Robinson.
No chance we (wink) get lucky enough to get this guy.
My dream offseason would be:
re-sign Maclin
Sign TJ Ward
Sign Orakpo
Draft Benjamin
I doubt that comes to fruition but the above moves would make the Eagles legit contenders next season in my opinion.
Then there's this:
Quote
Whispers that the Eagles might be interested in Patriot's receiver Julian Edelman. Would you rather bring Maclin back or go after Edelman?
I like Edelman, I think a lot of teams overlook his ability to get open. Guy can really move the chains. That being said I think Maclin is a better fit for Chip's offense. Would love to see Desean/Maclin/Benjamin, that would be hard to stop. Rumors like the above used to have some merit, agents/unnamed sources would float this stuff out there from time to time to drum up interest in their client. Now it's an overly used tactic and you don't know who to believe.
Quote from: SD on February 22, 2014, 08:55:37 AM
Would you rather bring Maclin back or go after Edelman?
you want white mr glass or black mr glass?
im not a tj ward hater but i dont want an in the box safety...i want someone that can run in space...my preference would be trade for jarius byrd (im assuming buffalo tags him)
I'm fine with Byrd, I just think he's going to want too much money. I doubt the Bills use the FT on him but you can never be sure.
Davis's safety's don't go by a standard position, so there really is no SS or FS. If they sign Ward, then they'll have to sign an over the top safety. If they sign Byrd they'll have to find a guy who can support the run. I wouldn't be opposed to keeping Allen, he covered the deep pass well and has grown as a player.
run stopping safetys are marginalized in todays nfl in general....but if you run a 3-4 you dont need one at all....mind you i dont want two nate allens but i would be fine with a jarius byrd and a nate allen
i need my linebackers to tackle
I doubt Ward or Byrd happen. I'd be fine with either. But realistically they don't need either. If they were say the 49ers and were a safety away from going to the SB, by all means you sign one. They have a bunch of holes on D. I think they'll sign a lesser player who's servicable.
Some names:
James Ihedigbo
Antoine Bethea
Steve Brown is coming off an ACL tear, might be worth the gamble, might be another Kenny Phillips
Mike Mitchell (pretty sure Carolina re-signs him, he's under rated and they know it)
Bernard Pollard
Louis Delmas
All of these guys are an upgrade. Some excel in coverage, some against the run, some are Veteran's who just get the job done. They can probably be had for half the price of Byrd or Ward.
they arent one player away but they made the playoffs and supposedly have their qb of the future in tow...this isnt last year where they were coming off a 3-13 season with mike vick as your leader...if they go out and have an offseason like last year and just sign servicable players while they are 25 million under the cap they should be blown up....i would argue that this is precisely the time to take that next step and make some power moves...especially at a huge need position
They need 2 safeties, an OLB/pass rusher, O line depth (possibly a LT), and 2 receivers and that's just for this upcoming season. Some of these issues will be addressed in the draft. They have players that will also need to be locked up after next season. After they release Chung, restructure Ryans, and a few other deals, they should be in the $25-30 million range. I can't see them spending $8-10 million per on one safety. Just doesn't make fiscal sense when that position can be upgraded for less while other needs are addressed.
If you're going to spend that kind of money, you sign a guy like Orakpo. Safeties shouldn't get caked off especially when the position can be upgraded with 2nd round picks and there are an abundance of options in free agency.
Quote from: SD on February 22, 2014, 02:10:02 PM
Safeties shouldn't get caked off especially when the position can be upgraded with 2nd round picks
the days of trying to upgrade safety in the second and third rounds are gone for them....in the last i dont know 5-6 years the best second round safties in the whole league are ironically probably nate allen and byrd...it doesnt happen as often as you think
id much rather rely on the draft for the pass rusher than for safety...and usually you have no choice as top notch pass rushers rarely are allowed to hit the market...that said if it happened and a stud DE was available on the market i would have no problem putting that as a bigger priority than safety...i just dont think theres going to be a DE available that is on the level that jarius byd is as a safety
i also dont think its a mutually exclusive deal...they have enough money to buy both if they want and if there are options out there...the best thing about foles is that hes really cheap for a couple more seasons...which is a huge deal to have a good cheap qb...and they arent exactly loaded with great young players who are going to require huge money in the next couple of seasons...like say the seahawks
either way i just hope they are aggresive as shtein this offseason
If they start signing overpriced mercenaries again I want nothing to do with them. Draft better and sign complementary pieces. That's how you win Super Bowls.
so dont sign orakpo or jarius byrd because they are "overpriced mercenaries"?
You can actually do both and be successful. You don't build a team through free agency, but you can certainly add talent...especially on D.
Complementary pieces = quality free agents. I'm fine with getting them.
Free agents who get huge deals are almost never worth the deals they get. Let the taterskins have their shiny baubles. I want the Birds to build a team through the draft. That's how you get "great young players."
you can also sign great players....just an fyi buddy
I think the idea is more Troy Vincents, less Nnamdi Asomughas.
Quote from: General_Failure on February 22, 2014, 10:03:29 PM
I think the idea is more Troy Vincents, less Nnamdi Asomughas.
pretty much
Quote from: General_Failure on February 22, 2014, 10:03:29 PM
I think the idea is more Troy Vincents, less Nnamdi Asomughas.
Exactly.
The problem is most free agents don't make it there until after they've started to decline.
Quote from: Rome on February 22, 2014, 10:06:09 PM
The problem is most free agents don't make it there until after they've started to decline.
rome dawg droppin jewels
QuoteKelly, of course, prefers length. He has given 10-minute dissertations on the value of long arms, especially on defense.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20140223_Eagles_can_start_gathering_more_players_to_fit_defensive_scheme.html#RZqdU77lZp6Qk7iz.99
Reading this gave me a mini erection. I hate the short stubby Graham/Mcdougal not overly athletic types Reid liked to draft. I'll take tall and rangy any day.
i dont even care about long...ive been preaching athletes since 1999...this isnt rocket science...i dont ever again wanna see another gocong
sd telvin smith ran 4.48 and 4.41....that could be your strong saftey there
http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/eagles-free-agent-targets-brian-orakpo
That auto-played at least two videos and two ads immediately for me, but the idea sounds good.
I mean, sure. Kind of a nonsense video. Should the Eagles go after a potential, productive FA who fits their scheme and could make an impact on Defense? Duh. But that's a long way away from making that actually happening. Hard to imagine him getting away from Washington, and if he does, what are the numbers he's looking for, and will that still make sense? Lot of ground to cover there. But, I'm pretty sure the Eagles should be interested in all talented players who might somehow become available and could fill positions of need.
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/02/25/theyre-saying-eagles-34/
Quote"That whole draft was about need," said a personnel executive who was with the team during that draft. "We didn't have a guard on the depth chart, so we drafted a guard in the first round [Danny Watkins]. We didn't have a safety, so we pushed the safeties up a round and took Jarrett.
"We didn't say, 'OK, this isn't a good safety group, so let's pass and find a stopgap and get by.' Every team has weaknesses. But [Reid decided] that we were going to take the next safety and go from there."
cant this current regime just let it go....they sound like petulant children...they always want it both ways too....all the bad picks were made by andy or banner and all the good picks by howie
Not sure if this a delay from earlier today but watching the DB's go through their drills at the combine. No doubt there are some real studs in this years draft at DB. Who is this Victor Hampton from South Carolina? Guy looks like a best. Deion and Mayock were in love with the guy. Mayock said he has him going in the second round. Apparently had some off field issues.
I don't have a rational reason to feel this way but with re-signing Cooper and eventually Maclin i have this fear of the Eagles trading Desean and drafting a wr #1. i really hope that doesn't happen.
if they didnt come with the baggage of a broken knee and a one year wonder who wasnt that wonderful i could maybe see that....but both those guys are already questionsmarks then to that mix you are going to add an unproven draft pick?....that would be insanity
Per McLane....$17,169,767 in cap room after the contracts
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WoriJa99.htm
Sounds like this dude is going to be one of the guys they focus on getting
What do they save by cutting Avant?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2014, 04:59:03 PM
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WoriJa99.htm
Sounds like this dude is going to be one of the guys they focus on getting
Jason Worilds
DE Height: 6-2 Weight: 240 lbs
Gocong!
Quote from: Don Ho on February 27, 2014, 06:05:16 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2014, 04:59:03 PM
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WoriJa99.htm
Sounds like this dude is going to be one of the guys they focus on getting
Jason Worilds
DE Height: 6-2 Weight: 240 lbs
Gocong!
completely different situation with a 3-4 defense.....also gocong was a talentless schlub
Quote from: Don Ho on February 27, 2014, 06:05:16 PMGocong!
Nah, Worilds is good. He wouldn't even have a chance of hitting the open market if the Steelers didn't have cap issues. He would be a great fit for the Eagles, but the Steelers will retain him if it is at all financially possible.
Quote from: General_Failure on February 27, 2014, 05:42:02 PM
What do they save by cutting Avant?
Cut Avant/Casey/Chung saves close to $8 million. Casey isn't making much so he might be worth holding onto. They'll probably try to restructure Cole/Celek/Ryans.
I think they keep Ryans at his current number. One of the beat guys said they don't see him being asked as it wouldn't portray well within the Locker room
Cut the shtein out of those guys, then. Avant could probably help another team out.
I hate to see Avant go but I think he will be cut.
I can see him going to one of the other NFC east teams
I'd be fine with Avant as the 4th WR, just not at his current salary. Much rather they get a big WR in the mid rounds who they can groom.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2014, 07:11:40 PM
I think they keep Ryans at his current number. One of the beat guys said they don't see him being asked as it wouldn't portray well within the Locker room
plus money isn't an issue....not a good look to travel around the locker room asking for restructures when you are swimming in money....demeco seems like the kind of leader who would do it if it would help the team get better but thats not the case this year....also they just caked off kkkooper
Yep and Demeco is the heart and soul of the D so keep him as is and let him lead.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2014, 07:14:57 PM
kkkooper
please stop.
you sound like a farging republican icehole when they say oweblunder or something equally idiotic.
Quote from: Rome on February 27, 2014, 07:24:09 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2014, 07:14:57 PM
kkkooper
please stop.
you sound like a farging republican icehole when they say oweblunder or something equally idiotic.
if he was on the cowboys you be doing a lot worse
but because your insane level of homerism is so cute i will stop....and instead do this....
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smilies/dcracistemo0mp.gif)ooper
that's actually funny.
and cooper is swine. farg him off the field. on the field he's productive and he wears the laundry we all cheer for, so farg off.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2014, 07:31:19 PM
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smilies/dcracistemo0mp.gif)ooper
lol
I'm a little disappointed it took so long to break out this gem
Maclin wants a one year and the team wants a multi
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/&id=247609641
Avant will be cut for a few reasons...one being, he's not needed. Kelly can get his possession receiver production out of his TEs. Casey is cheap and great depth for this part of the game, so I think he'll be kept.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2014, 07:51:40 PM
Maclin wants a one year and the team wants a multi
Understandable for both sides. I like Maclin and hope they work out something. Sign him to a two year johnson that pays him decently in his second year if he hits targets this year and his AIDS doesn't flare up again.
I would like to see Maclin catching passes from Foles. Maclin runs tight routes and DBs respect both his quickness and his speed. They don't game plan for the guy, but there aren't many teams whose 2nd DB doesn't have his work cut out for him if the number one guy is on Jackson.
If Mac wants 1 yr to prove himself worthy of a sizable contract and the team wants multi years they have a lot of options available, like voidable years and escalators which give both parties what they want. No reason they can't get something done, even if it is an unusual case.
two words of advice to Macklin Damon Moore
farg, that was a sad story...I had high hopes back then, for him and for the Eagles
was it sad when he left his dog tied up at a park?
Yea, many tears.
Who was the running back before him that was in trouble for his dog. I'd google it but no search for Eagle and Dog will return anything but Michael Vick I'm sure. Hammer? Hamner?
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/eagles/2001-05-09-hammer.htm
Thomas Hamner. Even the link to the story got it wrong.
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/02/18/jason-avant-eagles-ted-wells-report-locker-room-culture/
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/02/28/connor-barwin-nfl-locker-room-culture/
Maclin agreed to terms. 1 year deal.
Good news.
Now for Dion Jordan.
Quote from: Feva on February 28, 2014, 03:43:38 PM
Maclin agreed to terms. 1 year deal.
Nice!
Schefter said Broncos and Jets were gonna take a run at him
$5.5M base with another $500K in incentives...$3.5M of the base is guaranteed
5pm press conference, and Bowen is angry that they called one on a Friday
A bloo bloo bloo, they should have waited until Monday so Bowen would be dead, half buried in the snow he was shoveling out of his driveway.
The only drawback is he'd be replaced by Todd.
Pretty fair deal. That's one thing I didn't like about Cooper getting 5M/yr. As a 3rd wideout, what if he gets 40 catches and 4 TDs and Mac gets 75 catches and 8 TDs - what do you give Mac as a long term contract? I don't think he's worth that much more than what Cooper is getting but that is what sets the bar.
Thorntons back on a one year deal. Nice depth player
Glad to hear it.
Quote from: SD on March 03, 2014, 11:41:06 AM
Thorntons back on a one year deal. Nice depth player
Yes. Thornton. He's good. Which one was he again? :paranoid
The black guy.
From a chat on ESPN.com today:
Quote(11:56 AM) Jairus Byrd will be here at the top of the hour to take your questions!
(12:03 PM) Hang on folks. Jairus is having a chat with Brian Dawkins. :yay
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Luke (TX) - What's the top thing you'll be looking for in a team that you sign with?
The best fit where I can fit in. Where I can help a team win. Stability as well.
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dan (maine) - What was it like playing for Oregon during college?
It was a lot of fun. It was a great experience. The opportunity to play at a great college like that with all of the innovative stuff they have going on with Nike. It was a great opportunity.
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evan [via mobile] - What precautions do you take to deal with your foot? And do you expect it to be a concern amongst teams interested in signing you?
No, it's not a concern. It's something that took time. Once it was good, I got out there. Now, I'm thankful and blessed to be healthy.
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Barry (Pa) - Do you like what chip Kelly is doing in Philly? Do you think you can make an impact there?
I think he's doing great things. Any time you can come in and take your team to the playoffs in the first year, that's great. I think they're headed in the right direction.
hes in bristol today making the rounds and saying the same thing on all the shows
Beats saying opposing things on all the shows
he played for chip in college and likes him....there is nothing to see here
He'd be an upgrade, for sure. I might be an upgrade, actually.
i just dont see howie signing him...if you look at his strategy last year and all the in house signings this year i dont see him signing the top player at his position in free agency...i think hed rather go after three or four 3-5 million dollar guys than one 8-9 mil guy....i think hes still gun shy from the failed spending frenzy of a few years ago
If he rejected $30M guaranteed over the first three years he either wants outta Buffalo more than anyone has ever wanted out or he's insane.
He's not worth that money.
if they had a better defense and were 1 player away from being elite, it would make sense
but they need more talent defensively and cant just spend it all on one guy.
ProFootballTalk: Geoff Mosher of CSN Philly says on PFT Live he thinks Eagles WR DeSean Jackson could be "one false step away" from being cut.
Mosher is just trying to get pageviews
No kidding, cutting Pimp would be beyond stupid
I don't believe that at all.
Mosher (and Kempski) both trying to float bullshtein
No you guys, this is totally a thing they're going to do!
It's dumb to even suggest that theyd cut him but why is Deseans name coming up so much? Did he do something to piss the fo off in the offseason? If he's a pain in the ass you'd think it would come out more during the season and not two months later.
Remember kids, you'll be okay if you're a drunken racist or ran a dogfighting ring, but if you let someone steal your money you need to get the farg out.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 05, 2014, 12:43:11 PM
Mosher is just trying to get pageviews
if "one false step away" is defined as going aaron hernandez level HAM on someone then i think mosher might be on to something
Quote from: Tomahawk on March 05, 2014, 12:45:48 PM
No kidding, cutting Pimp would be beyond stupid
you know what would even be more stupid and the clearest indication that mosher is just making shtein up?...the eagles letting it be known to the rest of the world that they are even thinking about cutting him...that would do wonders for his trade value
McLane to Mosher and Kempski...shut the farg up
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/inq-eagles/&id=248638831
holy shtein he went at them hard....dont ask me why but i went on kempski's live chat this afternoon and he was a such a pompous dick about the rumors
Yeah - he doesn't care about not calling them out. I still wanna know why Les Bowen smacked him awhile back in the NovaCare
But I'm glad he called them out. The rumors are farging ignorant.
So I'm scrolling through the comments on the CSN Facebook link about Pimp maybe leaving from Mosher....god help me.
What a ridiculous collection of junk ass comments. Most people want him gone! One farging clown even says "we need the cap room for a number one receiver"
if you wanna trade him and can get equal or better value then do it....but the notion that he should be released is so asinine its not even worth talking about
I especially enjoy the faction of idiots on the "he acts like such a jerk/brat/ass and needs to shut up and play"
Since when has he been drama?
I hate idiots.
If Pimp gets traded, let go or whatever, is this a message as to the type of player Kelly wants on his team? Pimp is just one in league full of diva wr's. If he can't handle him in the locker room with the season he just had, then I have to wonder who will be next to be shown the door.
mcshays newest mock has bradley roby to the birds
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 05, 2014, 08:18:09 PM
I especially enjoy the faction of idiots on the "he acts like such a jerk/brat/ass and needs to shut up and play"
Since when has he been drama?
I hate idiots.
he posts instagram pics of rappers and the club scene...has tats...likes money....DRAMA
young rich and black in amerikkka.
one of the beat guys is reporting an interest in manbeast michael johnson....always liked him a lot but a knock on him has always been a lack of a motor at times so i wonder how his game would react to being massively caked off
I loved him at GT and he had a great 2012 season.
I'm all for signing him.
If an enabler like Marvin Lewis can't motivate you to play for him, I don't know who's gonna get you to hit the switch.
That said, maybe Chippa is a miracle worker with guys like that. I'd rather blow big money on Byrd in any case.
Looks like they're targeting Mike Mitchell at safety according to NJ.com
100% in on Mitchell. I'm surprised Carolina hasn't locked him up yet. He was the glue that held that D together. Plus he'll be much cheaper than the top guys.
if they arent going all out for a safety then i want darian stewart
Quote@LesBowen: Haven't been on Twitter much last few hrs, so maybe everybody knows this, but FA pass rusher Michael Johnson will NOT be an Eagle, I am told
Eagles and Falcons showing interest in Champ Bailey
Ummmm why?
I wouldn't mind Johnson but not at the numbers he's probably going to get. Sounds like the Birds had some interest until a bunch of other teams threw their hats in the ring and up the price.
Bailey as a safety maybe...better than Chung but then again that's not saying much.
Bailey as a safety? Champ Bailey?
haha
Quote from: Diomedes on March 08, 2014, 05:09:08 PM
Bailey as a safety? Champ Bailey?
haha
what is he normally a defensive tackle?
The guy that covers the Panthers for the Charlotte Observer:
QuoteJosephPerson
#taterskins, #Eagles showing most interest in #Panthers free agent safety Mike Mitchell, per league source.
Is Mitchell the huge reach that the raiders had in the 2nd round a few years back? Went to Marshall?
yep (Ohio), then he went to Carolina for one season and now everyone wants him
look at easy firing shots all over sd's bow
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 08, 2014, 05:03:57 PM
Eagles and Falcons showing interest in Champ Bailey
Ummmm why?
Has anyone else reported this? It's hard to take it serious when the primary source is someone from Bleacher Report
Agreed....and that is the only place I saw it. I saw it from Mike Freeman and then realized Freeman is with BR now.
Bleacher Report is the worst
Mosher says they checked on Lamarr Houston (Raiders DE) but he's out of their price range
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2014, 01:34:11 PM
Bleacher Report is the worst
You mean the 30 page slide show doesn't do it for you?
I'm a big fan of the dumb captions they're legally required to put on their animated gifs.
McManus mentioned Antoine Bethea as a potential target
I like the way he plays a lot
Howard what.
Dude seems like he's been in the league forever.
QuoteAriNissim
Revis early line. Highest Offer wins. (Other teams I've heard are Philly, Raiders, Browns, and Obviously Rex and the Jets) Rex loves him.
I'll bet he doesn't go the no guaranteed money route again. I'm going to also bet he doesn't end up on the Eagles.
I give Revis to the Birds a 0% chance of happening
My dark horse safety the Eagles could sign is Chris Clemons. Good size...can hit...plays thd deep ball well. Doesn't seem to be getting the attention other safeties are in fa...he's a steady under the radar option.
Schefter said
QuoteAdam Schefter @AdamSchefter 49m
Two teams to watch on CB Darrelle Revis once Tampa releases him: Philadelphia and New England (Jets fans shudder).
Revis makes zero sense for the Eagles. Sure he's an upgrade but he's unnecessary since there are so many other areas of need. I'd rather they signed Byrd than Revis if they're trying to lay that kind of coin down on a db.
their corners are cary williams and bradley fletcher. revis makes no sense?
I'm a little gun shy on the big FA signing myself, but SunMo is exactly right. Williams alternated between passable and farging awful last season while Fletcher is just always meh (or hurt). Of course you take a chance on Revis.
How much dough is Revis going to collect vs Byrd?
We all know the secondary is in need of a makeover but where do you spend the money and/or can you get better value by signing one or the other and drafting the other to get both?
Just make the team good enough to finally get lucky and win a goddamn Super Bowl. I don't care how they do it, how much money they spend, or who gets the credit.
Quote from: SunMo on March 11, 2014, 09:38:53 AM
their corners are cary williams and bradley fletcher. revis makes no sense?
Their CBs for the most part are fine. Their lack of a pass rush and safety play made them look worse than they are. Revis wasn't that great last season either.
When Cary Williams is bad he's the worst farging player on the field.
He's the streakiest player. Justin Williams of the NFL
Quote from: SD on March 11, 2014, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: SunMo on March 11, 2014, 09:38:53 AM
their corners are cary williams and bradley fletcher. revis makes no sense?
Their CBs for the most part are fine. Their lack of a pass rush and safety play made them look worse than they are. Revis wasn't that great last season either.
i tend to lean towards not wanting revis (altho i need to see the money he wants) but this season will be his second coming off the knee surgery which is the year you usually get back to 100%...he also hated playing in tampas system which may have affected his play...either way i wouldnt worry about revis' year last season
also their cornerbacks are not fine
So if they do sign Revis is Cary Williams the odd man out?
I like Fletcher better than him
i dont know what you mean by odd man out but cary williams isnt getting cut if thats what you are saying....his salary is guaranteed this year and hes making like 6-7 mil
revis get his island and the other two (with possibly boik) have a camp battle for the other outside spot with the loser becoming the #4 cb
and curtis marsh finally gets thrown into a wood chipper
I didn't know his $$ was guaranteed.
I just hate thought of Boykin being relegated to 4th
I think you can rest assured that Boykin isn't going anywhere. He's locked into the nickel spot.
yeah at worst boik is back in the slot...i just mentioned him as a possibility outside as thats where he really wants to play
revis in philly will be assy part 2. farg that dude.
i'm fine with signing him at a decent salary... hell, he's better than williams or fletcher by a long shot.
There are 16 teams with over $20 mil in cap space. Decent salaries are not going to be a thing this year.
Quote from: phattymatty on March 11, 2014, 11:17:33 AM
revis in philly will be assy part 2. farg that dude.
Agreed.
Also...who the farg is Curtis Marsh?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2014, 10:43:59 AM
So if they do sign Revis is Cary Williams the odd man out?
I like Fletcher better than him
Fletcher would be the backup
QuoteDianna Marie Russini @NBCdianna 7m
Sources say it will be between the Eagles or The taterskins for Jairus Byrd #NFLFreeAgency
Never trust women sources for anything
Especially wops
she is lead sports anchor on nbc in dc and is an absolute clown of an embarrasment
lol SD is right!
Sal Pal confirms the Eagles are negotiating with him
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 11, 2014, 02:00:10 PM
Sal Pal confirms the Eagles are negotiating with him
BigEd...this is good, right?
I didn't really follow Buffalo or know much about Byrd.
Looking at it again, capwise I think they can cut Carey Williams this week (today is the first day of the league year iirc) and avoid his base being guaranteed. There would be almost no net change between the dead money and cap savings, so it's feasible to sign another CB and cut Williams.
Also looking ahead, Bradley only signed a 2 year deal so he will be a FA at the end of this year. So although they have no safeties on the roster now except Wolff (who I wouldn't trust to start), if they get rid of Williams now or next off season they won't have starting CBs either for next year. Really they could go either way with going after a top CB or S.
Byrd would be a nice signing, though may not get the money he's looking for. Gil Pycelle Brandt claims Byrd a bit overrated and has had an unusual number of lucky ints by being in the right place at the right time. I'd be just as happy with TJ Ward. Still, there's another level of competent safeties like Bethea and Clemons that would work fine.
I don't think they have any intention of moving Boykin out of the slot regardless and I thought Fletcher was definitely better than Williams, especially once the D started to gel.
Quote from: hbionic on March 11, 2014, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 11, 2014, 02:00:10 PM
Sal Pal confirms the Eagles are negotiating with him
BigEd...this is good, right?
I didn't really follow Buffalo or know much about Byrd.
No, Sal Pal just makes shtein up and sees what sticks. He's 50/50 at best unless he stole someone else's work
rappaport believes the skins are not in on byrd
They do have the money to go after a big name, not sure how though unless they found a way to sell draft picks.
i trust michael rappaport's sports knowledge.
On a scale from 1 to 10 how baked is Matt?
Quote from: phattymatty on March 11, 2014, 02:35:34 PM
i trust michael rappaport's sports knowledge.
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Patrick Chung - CUT
Donnie Jones - RE-SIGNED
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2014, 05:01:15 PM
Patrick Chung - CUT
Donnie Jones - RE-SIGNED
Addition by subtraction
Let us rejoice!!
Might still sign Mitchell
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Report-Eagles-Still-Looking-At-Safety/8942e5c0-e64e-4ae3-a088-47cdb82c1fc5
I can't see Jenkins being the lone upgrade at Safety. Mitchell/Jenkins/Wolff wouldn't be so bad.
Stillhrs picked Mitchell up within the hour, and yeah, Eagles still need another starter. Pryor would be nice.
Just saw that, oh well. Maybe Chris Clemons
And Bethea signed with the 9ers if nobody has posted that yet
Btw, what took them so long to re-sign Donnie Jones? He didn't set the league on fire but I thought he did a solid job.
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 11, 2014, 06:52:14 PM
Btw, what took them so long to re-sign Donnie Jones?
It's some dumb rule where they can't re-sign their own player until after free agency starts...has something to do with the league minimum.
thanks, that makes a little more sense now
Haha dhani is probably playing his goddamn banjo along the subway platform in NYC
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2014, 07:14:58 PM
Haha dhani is probably playing his goddamn banjo along the subway platform in NYC
..with bowtie
eagles signed seahawk special team superman chris maragos
avant replacement
QuoteMaragos is a Christian. Maragos has spoken about his faith saying, "He's the Alpha, He's the Omega. He's the beginning and end of everything. To understand where we've reached, which is in the world's view quote-unquote 'the pinnacle,' you really see how empty that is. Having Jesus in my life, you really see how important that is because you see that He is everything. To take Jesus, who is perfect, and to be so humble as to come to earth as a mere man and to live the life that He lived despite knowing my sin, to go on the cross and to die for my sin and our sin and everyone's sin – to me, that's everything. That's joy, that's peace, that's love to think that He and His perfection would do that despite knowing really the depths of who I am."[10] Chris's brother Troy is the Pastor of Student Ministries at the Niles campus of Harvest Bible Chapel.[11]
Him and desean should get along well...I see desean wearing a crucifix every now and then.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 12, 2014, 07:34:25 AM
eagles signed seahawk special team superman chris maragos
I wonder why they're moving on from Anderson?
Good question. Apparently Maragos isn't any better as a DB. Maybe Anderson wants to move on from Philly? Wouldn't be surprised to see Colt end up in Washington.
i think this is all about getting a high character guy with a ring...as much or more of a locker room move as an on the field one
also i wonder if hes really replacing jason phillips and not kurt coleman or colt anderson...total speculation on my part but maybe his knee isnt coming back like it should
Why do they need more book burning Republicans in the locker room?
Bryan Braman LB/ST ex-Texan signed to a 2yr deal
QuoteEric Edholm @Eric_Edholm 8m
Quality punt blocker. RT @AdamSchefter: Eagles signed ex-Texans LB Bryan Braman to 2-year, $3.15 million deal, incl $1M guar
He's 6'5 250. Chip says he could fill in at OLB too.
My one gripe with him is he's a white dude who had dreads.
if the maragos signing didnt do it i would think this one officially ends jason phillips eagle career no?
Quote from: SD on March 12, 2014, 11:37:49 AM
He's 6'5 250. Chip says he could fill in at OLB too.
My one gripe with him is he's a white dude who had dreads.
RACISM.....only acceptable if it is directed at white people.
Quote from: Chameleon on March 12, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
Quote from: SD on March 12, 2014, 11:37:49 AM
He's 6'5 250. Chip says he could fill in at OLB too.
My one gripe with him is he's a white dude who had dreads.
RACISM.....only acceptable if it is directed at white people.
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Quote
Per @JasonLaCanfora: The Eagles beat out the taterskins for the services of Seattle LB Chris Maragos, an elite special teams performer.
Little surprised the Skins have been so quiet considering all the cap space they have and a new coach.
i didnt believe them but they have been saying for over a year now that even when their cap penalties subsided that they wouldnt be the washington of old....seems like they are sticking to their word
what suprises me more than anything isnt the new coach or the cap sapce they now have but the fact that they dont have a number one pick this year....i thought that would cause them to strike for at least one huge FA deal
Wow. Just wow. CF Sponsor opportunity of lifetime!
"Braman has an interesting background. He left the West Texas A&M football team in college due to pleading guilty to manufacturing psilocybin, which is a hallucinogen found in mushrooms. He and his family don't have teeth: "My whole family's kind of toothless. My dad, he doesn't have no tooth." His grandfather is reportedly humongous (7-4, 460 lbs!?!). Oh, and he used to be an Abercrombie & Fitch model.
Big (toothless) people beat up on little people" so can't complain there I guess...
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-3/Dreadlocks-exploded-molars-and-explosive-play-The-offseason-of-Bryan-Braman/c78ca60c-d485-4ef2-a931-d0f69e60f38e
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 12, 2014, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: Chameleon on March 12, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
Quote from: SD on March 12, 2014, 11:37:49 AM
He's 6'5 250. Chip says he could fill in at OLB too.
My one gripe with him is he's a white dude who had dreads.
RACISM.....only acceptable if it is directed at white people.
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lolol
CSN NE says the Eagles are in on Revis
I would of rather they signed Byrd then Revis and Jenkins
Quote from: JackStraw on March 12, 2014, 12:35:56 PM
Wow. Just wow. CF Sponsor opportunity of lifetime!
"Braman has an interesting background. He left the West Texas A&M football team in college due to pleading guilty to manufacturing psilocybin, which is a hallucinogen found in mushrooms. He and his family don't have teeth: "My whole family's kind of toothless. My dad, he doesn't have no tooth." His grandfather is reportedly humongous (7-4, 460 lbs!?!). Oh, and he used to be an Abercrombie & Fitch model.
So an extra in Deliverance?
Quote from: SD on March 12, 2014, 05:19:19 PM
I would of rather they signed Byrd then Revis and Jenkins
revis AND jenkins? money aside?
Quote from: SD on March 12, 2014, 05:19:19 PM
I would have rather they signed Byrd than Revis and Jenkins
QuoteSource: Eagles will not pursue Darrelle Revis
March 12, 2014, 5:30 pm
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You can cross the Eagles off Darrelle Revis' list of potential landing spots.
The Eagles are not among the teams pursuing Revis, the all-pro cornerback released Wednesday by the Buccaneers after just one season, according to a league source familiar with the situation.
Revis, a three-time first-team all-pro and five-time Pro Bowl pick, spent his first six NFL seasons with the Jets and is generally considered the No. 1 pure cover corner in the league.
Revis missed most of the 2012 season with a torn ACL, and the Jets traded him to the Buccaneers after the season in exchange for a first-round pick and what became a fourth-round pick.
He restructured his contract a couple days after the Bucs aquired him, but only $1.5 million of the six-year, $96 million deal was guaranteed. Revis earned $16 million for his one year in Tampa, and by releasing him, the Bucs save $80 million in future salary.
The Eagles ranked last in the NFL last year in pass defense, allowing 290 passing yards per game, although they also allowed more pass attempts per game as well, thanks to their hurry-up offense.
Their projected starting corners in 2014 are 2013 free agent pickups Bradley Fletcher and Cary Williams, with Brandon Boykin – second in the NFL with six interceptions last year – in the slot.
The Eagles signed safety Malcolm Jenkins to a three-year deal on Tuesday.
E-mail Reuben Frank at rfrank@comcastsportsnet.com.
So Jenkins is it I guess? I'm glad they took care of their in house guys but they were on the offensive side of the ball and their lone defensive upgrade is a safety. Would really like to see them add a pass rusher, I know they don't grow off trees but they're out there. Adding another safety so they don't have to take one early in the draft wouldn't be a bad idea either.
I'd be fine with Pryor or Dixon at 22 if they fell but I hate taking a safety in the first round.
I would like an edge rusher too...that is the biggest need on this team right now.
DE/OLB
NT to split reps with Logan
veteran back up QB (bring Vick back)
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Wouldn't it be nice if Vick decided to stay as the backup? I'd be happy with that.
This is an overpay offseason, Vick isn't staying put.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 12, 2014, 08:23:44 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if Vick decided to stay as the backup? I'd be happy with that.
It would be great. How long before Foles is out for a game and Vick comes in and runs for 130 in the read option, and Eagles fanz have a controversy? I'll say game 9.
Nah, no one want Vick back. Foles is the guy for a minute, we'll see. If he tanks, Vick still isn't anyone's answer.
But yeah, as a backup to a successful, healthy Foles? Vick would be perfect.
I'd rather see what Barkley has than bring Vick back.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 12, 2014, 11:27:38 AM
Bryan Braman LB/ST ex-Texan signed to a 2yr deal
QuoteEric Edholm @Eric_Edholm 8m
Quality punt blocker. RT @AdamSchefter: Eagles signed ex-Texans LB Bryan Braman to 2-year, $3.15 million deal, incl $1M guar
braman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6p-FyBDwWE)
Barkley isn't ready and may never be. If Foles gets hurt and you have Barkley and a rookie then season over. They need to have a veteran.
Sexy Rexy is available.
I think Vick is great as a backup. But take a look around at the league's QBs. There has to be someone willing to let him compete for a starting job.
Quote from: SD on March 12, 2014, 10:27:20 PM
I'd rather see what Barkley has than bring Vick back.
If Foles snaps his ACL in the preseason, I'd rather run Barkley out for 16 games. If the Eagles need a spot start from someone in Week 15 because Foles has a bruised rib, I'd rather see Vick out there.
theres not to many qb's id choose vick over but barkley is one of them....i cant stand that guy
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 12, 2014, 11:39:23 PM
Barkley isn't ready and may never be. If Foles gets hurt and you have Barkley and a rookie then season over. They need to have a veteran.
You're saying this based on his 2013 performance?
Quote from: Rome on March 13, 2014, 07:23:56 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 12, 2014, 11:39:23 PM
Barkley isn't ready and may never be. If Foles gets hurt and you have Barkley and a rookie then season over. They need to have a veteran.
You're saying this based on his 2013 performance?
or his last year in college...or his combine....what are you basing him on?....his freshman year at usc?...his fourth round pick status in the draft?
kid sucks but even if you believe hes gonna be good one day you dont want to give him a test run this season in week 12 of a potential playoff run
You hated Foles and you were wrong about him.
Besides, I was asking Phreak to share his thoughts, not yours. I know those, thanks.
Also...
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/&id=249998031
He's a douche, but I laughed.
Quote from: Rome on March 13, 2014, 07:41:51 AM
You hated Foles and you were wrong about him.
never hated foles....just didnt think he was a fit for chips offense and im still not sure he is...the difference is im not ready to proclaim him the distant future like you....hes still on a tryout as far as im concerend and id be suprised (not shocked anymore) if he was the eagles qb in three years
i do think its hilarious how if you are not all in on an eagle player from jump then homers think you hate him....a special breed are you guys
also you didnt answer....what are you basing barkley on?
Barkley sucks. Vick is toast. Foles is slow and dopic. Darren Sproles. Superbowl.
Edit: One of my buddies just sent me a text saying that the Eagles signed Sproles but I don't actually see it anywhere so shut up.
yeah 3 year deal
Trade? He didn't get released did he? Regardless this is a fun but totally pointless get. Chip loves his toys.
As long as they didn't give up a ton, it will be interesting to see how they deploy him. And, as a bonus, he's always fun in Madden. Who will be the odd man out at RB, Polk or Brown?
Quote from: rjs246 on March 13, 2014, 09:11:15 AM
Trade? He didn't get released did he? Regardless this is a fun but totally pointless get. Chip loves his toys.
trade....havent seen the return but i cant imagine its anthing more than a 6-7th rounder as he was going to be released
the best part of this deal is that they can truly limit shadys touches now....last year that was difficult because the guys behind him didnt have the skill set that fit the offense...now your back up rb is shady part II
the return game is an added bonus
ESPN says its a 5th rounder.
thats a little much imo unless its a 2015 5th
Quote from: rjs246 on March 13, 2014, 09:21:51 AM
ESPN says its a 5th rounder.
meh...wouldn't have gone higher than a 6th or 7th. They were probably going to release him because of their cap situation. I'm fine with Sproles for ST/change of pace back. But they need Defense, not more offense.
I trust this front office to draft someone useful for the defense in the fifth round about as much as I trust Matt to stay sober while we're in Vegas next week. Sproles is a fun player, they still have a 5th rounder this year and, as IGY said, McCoy can get a breather now without a drop-off in the ability to make dynamic plays. So sure, whatever. Now please work on the defense.
sproles probably deserves his own thread
Russell should do the honors since he broke the news
I would never.
nolan carroll, philadelphia eagle
Hopefully, he'll be on the better side of mediocre than our other corners not named Boykin.
Is this dude even a step up from the guys they have now? He's tall, which Chip seems to like, but otherwise isn't exactly considered elite...
carroll has some nice intangibles but hes coming in for comeptition as the teams depth at cb is horrid....key to him is he is a press corner all the way....something that is required in billy dee's scheme
I don't understand that one.
Love the Sproles pick up....confused on Carroll
So with Sproles, can we expect Chip to run the ball 45-50 times a game now? :crazy
I don't care if he does nothing other return punts and kicks. I like it.
QuoteMalcolmJenkins
Glad to see @DarrenSproles is coming with me! Good luck trying to match up against him and @CutonDime25
All Sproles needs is a couple of Chipper's fountain of youth smoothies in him and he'll round back into his old form. Also like he depth, competition, and upside Carroll brings.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 13, 2014, 10:51:55 AM
QuoteMalcolmJenkins
Glad to see @DarrenSproles is coming with me! Good luck trying to match up against him and @CutonDime25
awesome. dude dresses like austin powers & makes cocky tweets. great signing. :yay
You can tell a lot about a player by what their former teams fans say once they depart. For instance, most Saints fans couldn't have cared less that Kelly left. They said he was too inconsistent. I'm sure they care less now that they signed Bell.
Just went over to a Dolphins board to see their reaction regarding the Carrol signing, they all wanted him back and think he got underpaid
http://www.thephins.com/forums/showthread.php?81318-Nolan-Carrol-to-eagles-2-years-5-million
Kelly? Bell? Who the hell are you talking about?
malcolm kelly and jarius bell
Oh right. I have them on my fantasy hockey team.
Malcolm Kelly the ex-taterskin "stud" WR!?
Joique Bell?
SD been saucin it up today
Wilfork has asked for his release...if he's free....get him
Quote from: SD on March 13, 2014, 12:18:15 PM
You can tell a lot about a player by what their former teams fans say once they depart. For instance, most Saints fans couldn't have cared less that Kelly left. They said he was too inconsistent. I'm sure they care less now that they signed Bell.
I heard some dude on 97.5 from New Orleans who covers the Saints yesterday and he said no one gave a shtein about Jenkins leaving. The guy is nothing great but apparently is a good "locker room" guy.
gonna be a big pot of kombucha tea in the locker room for all these hipsters.
3 days in, the Eagles finally lost a FA. Clifton Geathers to the taterskins
Quote from: rjs246 on March 13, 2014, 12:29:36 PM
Oh right. I have them on my fantasy lacrosse team.
Quote from: SD on March 13, 2014, 12:18:15 PMYou can tell a lot about a player by what their former teams fans say once they depart.
Context can be important though. The Dolphins are a team that started Dimitri Patterson a few times last year. If this guy was being missed by Seahawks fans instead of Dolphin fans, we'd have more to cheer about.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 13, 2014, 03:54:35 PM
3 days in, the Eagles finally lost a FA. Clifton Geathers to the taterskins
easy is known for his worthless info but he is an amazingly underappreciated troll
Easy a troll? Seriously? And I've never found his info worthless, you just have to know how to use it.
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 14, 2014, 09:36:11 AM
Easy a troll? Seriously? And I've never found his info worthless, you just have to know how to use it.
i love it (and easy) dont get me wrong....my point is that he is not a one dimensional poster like most people think...hes def multi talented
and his info is worthless in that approx. 1 in every 100 things he posts is something that i havent already seen or heard
like he will post darrell revis to the pats three hours after it happened
ha....I think my only purposes here now are to A) piss you off and B) give Dio his info in one place
Well, with a clear mission statement like that it'll be easy to center yourself going forward.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 14, 2014, 12:07:06 PM
ha....I think my only purposes here now are to A) piss you off and B) give Dio his info in one place
Don't you farging dare leave this board!
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/red_zone/&id=250418241
Kempski still pushing his agenda on Pimp
Quote• And finally, Kelly was asked about the rumors surrounding DeSean Jackson, and his importance to the team. Kelly replied, "He's a priority at receiver, before Maclin, behind Cooper, or is it Cooper before Maclin, or Maclin before Cooper? So I'll check what you write, and I'll tell you how we feel about it."
I'll just add in a bit of my own commentary here. The reporter who asked the DeSean Jackson question was the Inquirer's Jeff McLane, who had previously reported that Jeremy Maclin was a priority over Riley Cooper when the two players were still unsigned by the team. The Eagles ended up signing Cooper first, but that doesn't mean that McLane was wrong. The Eagles could have certainly valued Maclin more, but were just able to get a deal done more quickly with Cooper. Kelly took the opportunity to needle Jeff a little, and in the process, say absolutely nothing about Jackson. It was really a brilliant answer.
The Eagles have had plenty of opportunities to simply say, "DeSean Jackson is an Eagle and will remain an Eagle, end of story."
But they haven't.
QuoteChip Kelly: "I share this award with the fans of Philadelphia, who are the best fans in football."
wip kiss ass...is angelo his body man?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000333096/article/mike-evans-adds-eagles-lions-to-list-of-teams-hell-visit
Nate Allen's back on a 1 year deal
I'm good with that. He wasn't terrible last year.
So to date:
Dallas Cowboys
Signed: DE Jeremy Mincey (Broncos); DT Terrell McClain (Texans).
Lost: DT Jason Hatcher (taterskins).
Re-signed: K Dan Bailey; P Chris Jones.
Cut: DE DeMarcus Ware (Broncos); C Phil Costa (Colts); WR Miles Austin.
Unsigned: C Ryan Cook; LB Edgar Jones; QB Jon Kitna; S Danny McCray; LB Ernie Sims; DE Anthony Spencer; RB Phillip Tanner (restricted; not tendered); G Brian Waters; DE Jarius Wynn.
New York Giants
Signed: CB Walter Thurmond (Seahawks); S Quintin Demps (Chiefs); RB Rashad Jennings (Raiders); LB Jameel McClain (Ravens); G Geoff Schwartz (Chiefs); C J.D. Walton (taterskins).
Lost: DT Linval Joseph (Vikings); S Ryan Mundy (Bears); LB Keith Rivers (Bills); TE Brandon Myers (Buccaneers); WR Hakeem Nicks (Colts); DE Justin Tuck (Raiders).
Re-signed: LB Jon Beason; K Josh Brown; S Stevie Brown; LB Mark Herzlich; RB Peyton Hillis; FB Henry Hynoski; QB Curtis Painter; CB Trumaine McBride.
Cut: C David Baas.
Unsigned: G Kevin Boothe; RB Andre Brown; C Jim Cordle (restricted; not tendered); OT David Diehl; RB Brandon Jacobs; WR Louis Murphy; TE Bear Pascoe; DT Mike Patterson; LB Spencer Paysinger (restricted); DT Shaun Rogers; CB Aaron Ross; RB Da'Rel Scott (restricted; not tendered); CB Terrell Thomas; CB Corey Webster.
Philadelphia Eagles
Signed: S Malcolm Jenkins (Saints); CB Nolan Carroll (Dolphins); LB Bryan Braman (Texans); S Chris Maragos (Seahawks).
Lost: DE Clifton Geathers (taterskins).
Re-signed: WR Riley Cooper; P Donnie Jones; WR Jeremy Maclin; DT Cedric Thornton.;S Nate Allen;
Trade: RB Darren Sproles (from Saints).
Cut: S Patrick Chung; WR Jason Avant.
Unsigned: S Colt Anderson; S Kurt Coleman; LB Phillip Hunt (restricted; not tendered); QB Mike Vick.
Washington taterskins
Signed: OT Bruce Campbell (Panthers); CB Tracy Porter (Raiders); DT Jason Hatcher (Cowboys); WR Andre Roberts (Cardinals); G Shawn Lauvao (Browns); LB Adam Hayward (Buccaneers); DE Clifton Geathers (Eagles); K Jake Rogers
Lost: C J.D. Walton (Giants); LB Darryl Tapp (Lions).
Re-signed: DT Chris Baker; LB Perry Riley; CB DeAngelo Hall; CB DeAngelo Hall; S Jose Gumbs; WR Aldrick Robinson.
Cut: DE Adam Carriker; P Sav Rocca; C Will Montgomery; RB Jawan Jamison; RB Davin Meggett
Unsigned: LB Nick Barnett; WR Dezmon Briscoe (restricted; not tendered); CB E.J. Biggers; TE Fred Davis; S Reed Doughty; LB London Fletcher; QB Rex Grossman; DE Rob Jackson; LB Bryan Kehl; S Brandon Meriweather; WR Josh Morgan; LB Brian Orakpo (franchise tag); CB Josh Wilson.
POTY
I copied it from PFT, so great work by those guys for getting Comcast money
As long as it's all in one place I give a shtein who "wrote" it.
Nate only got $1 million...didn't think he was horrible last year. Surprised he couldn't do a little better
I saw 1yr $2M with $1M in playtime incentives
Quote from: SD on March 17, 2014, 10:40:35 AM
Nate only got $1 million...didn't think he was horrible last year. Surprised he couldn't do a little better
He was okay, at best, and doesn't exactly have a track record of success. I can imagine there's a whole lot of buzz or clarmoring for anyone associated with the Eagles secondary last year.
That said, he seemed to get more comfortable as the year went on and knows the system, so I'm happy with the signing.
hes a starter level player who may be a back up which is a massive upgrade over the colt andersons and kurt colemans of the world...but even if he starts he pushes a legit safety to the bench rather than having a special teamer who plays safety as your first option off the bench...the starting safetys have obviously left a lot to be desired in recent years but even worse was the depth there