the giants o-line is as banged up as ever, but it wont matter as they still have nicks and cruz who i think have a field day here
manning gets back on track and take this one late in the 4th q as two bad teams go at it
30-27 giants
The Eagles will find a way to make Eli look like Peyton.
Manning2 - 41
Vick2 - 17
Is that Michael Vick listed as a logarithm?
Eagles 27
Giants 17
Gmen more desperate than birds:
Giants 27
Eagles 23
the giants offensive line might be the worst in the league right now....the eagle defense might be the worst in league history
28-27 big blue
eagles 31
giants 28
season on the line...elusive nfc east title and blowout loss to san fran in the wild card in the balance
WHAT WILL HAPPEN? g-men 45, eagles 0
37
35
Giggles
No chance in HELL the Giants go 0-5.
Giants 27
Eagles 20
I said the same thing about them not going 0-3 and 0-4
Eagles - 31
Giants - 23
Giants will be 0-5 after this game.
Eagles 28
Giants 13
Eagles front seven will pressure Eli enough to take the heat off the secondary. Giants won't get a run game going, they'll be playing from behind. Eagles offense will play well and score points.
Gut says Giants win, brain says Eagles win. Going with the brain.
Going to be uglier than it should be, though.
Eagles 24
Giants 20
I think this is a somewhat important game for Kelly. The Eagles aren't going anywhere, but with Dallas losing last week, they're still very much in the race for the division. So this game will say a lot about him, imo. It's a big game vs a wounded division rival and is probably as close to a "must win" game Kelly's going to get this year. If the Eagles have no fight like they've shown the last 2 games, Kelly is pretty much farged.
I'm curious to see how Kelly responds to a little adversity and pressure. He's got a chance to end a 3 game losing streak, pick up his 1st home win, beat the most relevant team in the division (in recent years), and keep pace within the division all at the same time. I'm 1-3 with my picks for each team this year so something's gotta give.
Eagles 31
Giants 27
It's like the embarrassment bowl. Even though the Giant's record is worse, they have fewer holes overall. It's going to come down to pressure on the QB. If the Eagles can get consistent pressure on Manning, they'll win easily, because Manning and the receivers are head and shoulders better than our secondary (in fact, I think our secondary should be call a tertiary, at best). If the Eagles can take advantage of the bad Giants OL, then the Eagles will win. Assuming, of course, that Vick isn't in one of his giving moods with the ball.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 03, 2013, 07:13:36 AM
I think this is a somewhat important game for Kelly. The Eagles aren't going anywhere, but with Dallas losing last week, they're still very much in the race for the division. So this game will say a lot about him, imo. It's a big game vs a wounded division rival and is probably as close to a "must win" game Kelly's going to get this year. If the Eagles have no fight like they've shown the last 2 games, Kelly is pretty much farged.
I'm curious to see how Kelly responds to a little adversity and pressure. He's got a chance to end a 3 game losing streak, pick up his 1st home win, beat the most relevant team in the division (in recent years), and keep pace within the division all at the same time. I'm 1-3 with my picks for each team this year so something's gotta give.
Eagles 31
Giants 27
He can pick up his first home win in the Meadowlands?
Kelly's creative like that.
Haha....I could have sworn the sched said "vs" instead of "@." Oops. That's alright, while tailgating before the Chiefs game I asked Havas when the Eagles play in DC this year. He looked at me like I had a fleshpop on my forehead.....and rightfully so.
But yeah, since it's an away game I'm flip flopping on my pick.
Giants 30
Eagles 27
lol
when do the eagles play in dc
two weeks ago
all the giants corners are injured....luckily for them riley cooper doesnt need to be covered
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 04, 2013, 10:29:11 AM
lol
when do the eagles play in dc
two weeks ago
Yeah, that was bad. Not nearly as bad as me showing up for the Chiefs on Thursday and your first words are "WTF are you doing here? Didn't you get the message?"
I think Shady is going to have a huge game. 200+ total yards and a couple scores. As long as Chip runs the ball every play and don't let Vick Vick, Eagles put a bunch of points on the board and so do the Giants. 34-27 Eagles.
LEZZZZZZZZZZGO
Maybe I'm just imagining things, but Manneans has been pretty awful this year.
good start
Ain't gonna get a better pass to catch than that Desean
game feed link please
the wolffman
great play on the ball
wow are they awful
Pass rush is just awful
nothing like letting a team that has just been miserable the entire season to come right out and get seven
So how many 40+ yard passes will Eli have today? I'm thinking a zillion.
Someone put a hit out on Billy Davis and Nate Allen
lol at kendricks on that td
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2013, 01:11:33 PM
Someone put a hit out on Billy Davis and Nate Allen
How awful is Allen though? Seriously. Both of those deep balls were the exact same play and he was left in the dust both times. And all year. And his whole career, minus like half of his rookie year.
Run the farging ball!
What a horrible horrible call on NYs D. No way that was a personnel foul.
What, there's a penalty for trying to knock out racists now? What a bitch league.
whya re the giants taking this
that's on coughlin
Ahaha, that was dumb on everyone's part, especially the Giants for taking the penalty and letting it happen.
The Giants are almost as dumb as the Eagles, why would you accept that penalty?
offensive line is soooooooo bad
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 01:18:05 PM
whya re the giants taking this
Tom Coughlin can outcoach anybody
Although I'm guessing because they thought Chip would go for 4th and 3 or whatever it was, and had no faith in his D
Quote from: Munson on October 06, 2013, 01:19:11 PM
offensive line is soooooooo bad
You try blocking Mike Patterson.
Oh good, the lisping Patsfan commercial again. That shtein isn't annoying or anything.
vick has not completed a pass yet
chip kelly basically has two plays in his arsenal right now...that delay handoff to shady that the whole league now knows is coming and a vick scramble
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 01:23:05 PM
chip kelly basically has two plays in his arsenal right now...that delay handoff to shady that the whole league now knows is coming and a vick scramble
Somehow those are still pretty good plays.
david Wilson can barely walk and hold onto a football at the same time but somehow he stiff armed trent cole
Trent Cole being useless? September truly is over.
Worst Eagles defense I've ever seen. Goddamn they're just awful
ha that was awesome
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2013, 01:31:58 PM
Worst Eagles defense I've ever seen. Goddamn they're just awful
No need for qualifiers. All-time bad.
I know Phreak loves the pink shirt and tie that Billick is rocking
2nd and 25 and there's zero doubt in my mind they convert a 1st down here
holy shtein an actual stop, I'm speechless
lol at "high octane Eagles offense"
0 passing yards
howies drafts overshadow his putrid free agent class this past offseason
james casey cant get on the field and connor barwin is a piece of trash
Lol @ Giants punt team. Lol @ all the dumbass penalties. I think we're all going to get eye cancer if we watch the rest of this game
I'm totally okay with the idea of just running on every play for the rest of the game.
The Giants are dumber than the Eagles
Hey, lets draft another TE in the 2nd who can't catch or get open. Screw defense.
jesus Vick, you're 5'9, just float that over the defender, Shady had nothing but green in front him
See Giants, that's how you do punt coverage.
95 yard drive coming here
just put in foles....i cant take watching vick anymore....shtein id rather have gj kinne in there
that's a bullshtein call....he was still trying to run and gain yardage
Come on that's a safety
That should have been a safety, Wilson gets free then gets tackled. Is that challengable?
That's a safety goddamnit
Did Vick really just go a full quarter without a single completion?
shady is pretty good
He completed a pass! :crazy
that was a pretty throw
nice catch rook
come on chris turn that shtein upfield hard
I don't think a dragon screw leg whip is a legal tackling form.
Herremans is farging terrible
it's amazing how bad Herremans is
3 points. Shocking.
that series was on polk...he ran like a little bitch....he probably should have scored but the very least would have gotten to the one yard line
The farg happened to Herremans? Pick it up icehole.
Another FG for the lethal Kelly offense
Boooooooooooooooooooooooo
the words high powered should never be used for this offense again....ever.
It runs on Shady fuel...no shady, no offense
Quote from: reese125 on October 06, 2013, 01:55:36 PM
the words high powered should never be used for this offense again....ever.
Fun & gun?
Fast & furious?
Dynamic?
Exotic?
zesty & Conservative
its going to look awesome in athens
"Give it up for Coleman." Let's not.
Awesome pass though.
you hear that everyone?
give it up for kurt coleman
PIMP
That was lucky as shtein
I really liked that playcall, actually
Vick may be a really awful quarterback, but he tries hard.
Grat block there by Herremans
holy shtein!! they got in the EZ!
Edit: and capitalized on it by going for one!
refs trying to figure out how to not call that a touchdown
pimp shady pimp shady pimp shady pimp shady
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 02:05:34 PM
refs trying to figure out how to not call that a touchdown
Avant was the only Eagle there not completely in the endzone. Forward progress was stopped at the one, obviously.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 02:05:34 PM
refs trying to figure out how to not call that a touchdown
lolol I didn't understand what took so long
lol to see on that long desean pass giants doing their best eagles db impression
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 06, 2013, 02:09:11 PM
lol to see on that long desean pass giants doing their best eagles db impression
Eagles DBs won't ever get that close to an interception.
Any chance we can ship Vick to the moon?
And everyone on Defense...
wow
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 02:10:24 PM
Any chance we can ship Vick to the moon?
NASA's closed at the moment, so no.
The Giants are awful
I will take it - thanks, Jacobs!
And we get to see The Coughlin Face.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 06, 2013, 02:11:23 PM
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 02:10:24 PM
Any chance we can ship Vick to the moon?
NASA's closed at the moment, so no.
farging government.
The Giants are putrid. This is one horrendous game.
They'll boo the chains?
foles time
Giants fans cheering a Vick injury? Classless
Quote from: SD on October 06, 2013, 02:13:41 PM
Giants fans cheering a Vick injury? Classless
so are eagle fans
McCoy is the only player worth keeping. Take Vick out already. Gimpy farg.
Go for a sneak with your gimpy midget QB!
don't go for it dum dum
Vick gets no calls. None.
If that's an Eagle defender doing it to Eli? Stupid pink flag.
do people get cramps in their hamstring area....ive never heard of that
The Giants are awful, but so are the Eagles. Let's say there's a 50/50 chance we see Eli bullshtein magic to end the half.
Eli is either throwing a pick here or driving them down the field for a TD
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2013, 02:16:23 PM
Vick gets no calls. None.
If that's an Eagle defender doing it to Eli? Stupid pink flag.
Eh, he got bumped from behind. Of all the hits he normally takes that was about the least offensive.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 02:17:29 PM
do people get cramps in their hamstring area....ive never heard of that
yes, same as you would get a charlie horse in your calf. Your hammy cramps up the same way
Yeah hammy cramps farging suck.
When I was in undergrad my buddies and I were on a flag football team. I played corner, and in the championship game we played a bunch of guys on the school football team, which was 1-AA. I gave the WR about 15 yards of cushion every play because I knew he'd burn the farg out of me at will.
This is the Eagles' mentality.
thats weird.....in all my years of watching sports ive never seen someone get a cramp in that area....if you have pain back there its because you hurt your hammy
fletcher bradley has played a nice game
what a kick
get vick out of the game.....if he cant run whats the point
FOLES TIME!
Awesome, get the whole Giants pass rush off the field. Make things nice and easy for Foles to probably do nothing but maybe throw a pick.
Use the motherfarging time outs and go down the field wth the ball
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 02:22:54 PM
fletcher bradley has played a nice game
by far the best offseason signing
Foles time...
they need to start hitting the seams...they are open all day
Go
Down
The
farging
FIELD
"Oh, farg! Farg me!" McCoy, 2013
foles arm is terrible
It isn't fair to compare anyone's arm to Vick, but damn if Foles' passes don't look weak as hell.
Limp noodle arm Nicky Foles
Like night and day with Foles playing.
They'll get it down to the 30 so Henery can miss the FG
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 02:29:27 PM
foles arm is terrible
To say the least, but he makes safe throws and moves the offense. But yeah, he's got the arm strength of an infant.
Quote from: SD on October 06, 2013, 02:30:57 PM
They'll get it down to the 30 so Henery can miss the FG
I'll take that over a pick six.
Everything went better than expected. Still not looking forward to the second half though.
Quack quack quack!
say hello to your first place philadelphia eagles
Alice Henery is hitting her kicks today...nice
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 02:34:19 PM
say hello to your first place philadelphia eagles
Tallest midget.
They need to cut Vick's achilles in the locker room and put him out of everyone's misery.
i thought i hated vick
why would you ever put vick back in....if he cant move hes worthless plus no matter what you think about him you are putting the guy at risk for further injury
damn how did he miss that
For some reason the run fake doesn't work as well with Foles. I don't get it.
yeah at 33 vick is going to become the qb no one thought he could be
giants are going to waste a timeout to challenge a play in their own territory??
and then throw the flag
lol
His toe might be out, but I don't see that one getting overturned based on that one grainy view.
So they burned a timeout just to throw the challenge flag? I hope they lose both timeouts here.
if you are going to call timeout let your booth look at the play and if they think its challengable THEN throw the flag
of course it wouldn't have mattered because that was a terrible call
Jesus...Mike Patterson looks dominant against the eagles oline
COUGHLIN FACE!!
Shady isn't as effective without Vicks run threat right now
No more option runs...pound inside with quick hitters
So much for being the leading rusher in the NFL.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2013, 03:01:10 PM
COUGHLIN FACE!!
Shady isn't as effective without Vicks run threat right now
No more option runs...pound inside with quick hitters
Left side of the line isn't doing its job. Let Foles throw short yardage. He let's go of the ball quickly and that's his strength.
I feel a Giants TD coming up
They need to adjust and throw more (ugh...I hate typing that) to loosen up the D with some screens. They're just crashing the middle because foles is about as mobile and Payton Manning with a limp.
Not against this shut-down defense! :o
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 06, 2013, 03:04:18 PM
Not against this shut-down defense! :o
More like shtein down their own leg defense, amirite?
what are they in a farging prevent?
There's the D we all know and love.
man are the giants bad
Who's out there with the John Randle Batman makeup? Get the farg outta here.
Yep there it is. I knew it.
Welp, time to see if Foles can sling some of those sick 20 yard bombs to keep the chains moving and hold on to this lead.
pass rush is completely non existant
Lol Nate Allen embarrassing himself again.
You could yank Dawk off his couch at the moment and he'd play better
this is where chipper needs to start coming with his multi te sets...foles cant go down field so give him a bunch of intermediate options....plus riley cooper can barely get off the line of scrimmage much less get open...also put damaris in the slot more
Nate Allen is god awful. There's no excuse for this guy to still be playing. A scrub off the street can't be any worse.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 03:11:42 PM
this is where chipper needs to start coming with his multi te sets...foles cant go down field so give him a bunch of intermediate options....plus riley cooper can barely get off the line of scrimmage much less get open...also put damaris in the slot more
And Avant for some reason can't hold on to anything now, so there's no reason for him to ever be on the field again.
god I love me some jpp
damn that place is loud right now
I love singleback runs to the outside with an all backup backfield.
Most important drive of the game?
Get Shady out of there!
the offensive line got mauled that posession
Nice three and out, Nicky.
So they're gonna put Vick out there to die, right?
Stupid farging play calling.
fargkkkkkkkkk
Come on!!
Bullshtein!!!
no doubt in my mind the Giants score a TD here
Games over
was that dre day going to commercial?
That was almost a nice play by the defense.
Lousy call on FC interference
great nate!
Nate Allen accidentally in the right place
Lousy motherfargin call again!
farging horrible
Remember when refs were going nuts throwing flags and hit that guy in the face and blinded him, then they told the refs to stop going nuts with the throws? I'm glad they stopped that.
only in the nfl is that a PI
No blitzing and/or pressure from the four man
Giants OL is shtein. But let's not pressure him. right Billy?
Wow... these are horrible refs. What bullshtein.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
No blitzing and/or pressure from the four man
Giants OL is shtein. But let's not pressure him. right Billy?
Not a single one of these pass rushers would start on a good defense.
Giants are out of timeouts with a full quarter to play.
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 03:24:24 PM
Giants are out of timeouts with a full quarter to play.
they have been dummies but they also got raped out of one of them
D is a farging embarrassment
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 03:25:12 PM
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 03:24:24 PM
Giants are out of timeouts with a full quarter to play.
they have been dummies but they also got raped out of one of them
It also won't matter because Philly doesn't know how to play defense.
If you get juked off your feet by Eli Manning you should rethink your career.
Oh come on.
Lousy corksuckers
classic rookie hesitation there by the wolffman
C'mon, show Vick with his helmet on before a commercial.
lol at that throw
This defense has no instincts (or talent, or skill, or ability) what so ever!
Two things:
- we all knew Trent Cole's career might as well be over... but seriously.
- I laughed how the camera had to zoom out to follow Foles' deep ball
That was seriously a 30 yard bomb that floated up there for five seconds.
Foles deep ball is like a punt
avant with some YAC!!!
If Foles is overthrowing you, you're slow and white and probably shouldn't be anywhere near an NFL field.
just keep tossing it out bounds on sideline routes and pray there's PI, the refs are calling everything today
Riley making sure Brent doesnt steal the worst athlete crown
PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMP
Great job Pimp!!!
Btw Lane Johnson is out. That's good for pass protection
That was a Mcnabb special
Johnson back in :(
They've kinda given up on running the ball, huh.
Nice pass, Nicky.
do the eagle qb's realize they are allowed to throw the ball away from the pocket
you don't always have to hold it forever then run outside the pocket
kelce is a bitch
Huh ... Imagine that. A sack.
Alice is 5-5
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 03:33:18 PM
do the eagle qb's realize they are allowed to throw the ball away from the pocket
you don't always have to hold it forever then run outside the pocket
When you've got weapons like Riley Cooper, Brent Celek, and Zach Ertz, you just try to keep the play alive and see if they can get open.
why are they talking about history when it comes to making the playoffs this year in the nfce
ertz - celek - casey 3 for 49 today
why would the giants ever run the ball again
Hahahaha that was a delay of game.
No call.
Amazing
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 03:36:55 PM
why would the giants ever run the ball again
Just said the same thing to my buddy. Shelve the running game and they easily put up 50.
I don't know if I can even stomach watching the last quarter of this train wreck.
When is the last time the Eagles had a pick? Washington?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2013, 03:38:08 PM
Hahahaha that was a delay of game.
No call.
Amazing
That extra five yards was all this defense needed, too. Damn you, refs!
first play sopo has made all year
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 03:36:55 PM
why would the giants ever run the ball again
To make the third down conversion sting that much more.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 03:35:29 PM
why are they talking about history when it comes to making the playoffs this year in the nfce
I was wondering that too. Neither of these teams are making the playoffs so who gives a farg about history.
Sop a whatever sighting
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 03:40:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 03:35:29 PM
why are they talking about history when it comes to making the playoffs this year in the nfce
I was wondering that too. Neither of these teams are making the playoffs so who gives a farg about history.
I was more talking about it doesn't matter that 3% of teams who start 1-4 make the playoffs because theres never been a division that is as bad as the nfce this year
Oh, how I laughed at that dropped screen pass.
why are they harping on jaccobs dropping that he wasn't getting more than five yards anyway
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 03:42:21 PM
why are they harping on jaccobs dropping that he wasn't getting more than five yards anyway
You have seen the defense on third and long this year, right??
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 03:42:21 PM
why are they harping on jaccobs dropping that he wasn't getting more than five yards anyway
His drop directly caused a lousy punt which will in turn lead to another Eagles fg, making the Giants win by slightly less. They should cut him.
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 03:43:09 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 03:42:21 PM
why are they harping on jaccobs dropping that he wasn't getting more than five yards anyway
You have seen the defense on third and long this year, right??
ive also seen that sloth try to turn and run......he shouldn't even be in the league
I'm ready for Avant to get cut now.
so foles has a noodle arm and is also inaccurate
Foles is a bum.
The OL blows.
Foles is really dumb. Put in Barkley.
that was a productive set
Get Josh Freeman!
Hey...did Shady die?
Chip!! farg you and your offense
Seeing Foles run this offense is as infuriating as watching Vick try to run it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2013, 03:47:38 PM
Hey...did Shady die?
Chip!! farg you and your offense
farg this gimmick offense is right.
What happened to the offense they ran in the first half against Washington? This is like having Reid and Marty all over again.
@SheilKapadia: LeSean McCoy with five carries for -3 yards on four possessions since Foles entered the game.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 06, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Seeing Foles run this offense is as infuriating as watching Vick try to run it.
At least the Vick offense had McCoy runs.
Actually I'd rather see Foles for another game or two first. Time to at least see if he can farging play. They never should have started with Vick.
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 03:48:55 PM
What happened to the offense they ran in the first half against Washington?
washington
Losing this game guarantees a top five pick, right? I mean, they're both probably top ten, but look at this clusterfarg.
I could run a slant and score against this defense
I stand by my statement that this game is a clusterfarg.
lol at the Giants
Well farg me.
what I don't get is how much everyone talked about chipper loving the te and all the various sets he could run out of multi te formations and now with noodle arm in and the giants having absolutely atrocious coverage linebackers its the perfect place to show it and they arent
Nice toss Eli
Foles has such a zesty arm, but that was still nice to see.
HOF CELEK!
Wowowowowowo! Brent Hipster made a play and held onto it!!
and there it was....casey and celek in the game
pretty sure that Celek TD bounced off the turf
Lucky break, that was a penalty on Cole.
Foles!! Celek! Nice!
Quote from: SD on October 06, 2013, 03:53:40 PM
pretty sure that Celek TD bounced off the turf
I stand corrected, great catch
Foles might have the weakest arm in the league
Things stronger than Nick Foles' arm?
Infants
Wine coolers alcohol volume
Wet toilet paper
Quote from: SD on October 06, 2013, 03:53:40 PM
pretty sure that Celek TD bounced off the turf
Nope, clean catch.
Seriously though, I might have a stronger arm than Foles.
that was a nice formation....celek and casey lined up next to each other on the strong side...celek releases and casey stays in to give max protect
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2013, 03:54:59 PM
Things stronger than Nick Foles' arm?
I can spit with more velocity then Foles' throws.
I dont think its max protect if a TE goes out
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 06, 2013, 03:58:00 PM
I dont think its max protect if a TE goes out
that's why you have two te's
they actually covered Randle on the slant round...5th times the charm
Beat the Giants this week then lose enough games to get one of the good young QBs (thankfully there's a lot in next years darft) then go all defense.
boik boik
The defense is doing things. The Giants are really bad.
that's an unreal play
Boyk boyk!! Beautiful play sonnnnn
why or how is this being reviewed if the Giants are out of challenges?
Quote from: SD on October 06, 2013, 04:02:42 PM
why or how is this being reviewed if the Giants are out of challenges?
Turnovers are automatically reviewed. Same with touchdowns.
That was a hell of a play by Boykin. Best db on the team even if he's a midget.
Eagles are going to win the division without winning a game outside the division. 6-10 home team in the playoffs. Book it!
all scores and ball changes are I believe
Quote from: SD on October 06, 2013, 04:02:42 PM
why or how is this being reviewed if the Giants are out of challenges?
Turnovers and TDs automatically reviewed.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 06, 2013, 04:03:37 PM
Eagles are going to win the division without winning a game outside the division. 6-10 home team in the playoffs. Book it!
Oh please no. They need a good draft pick!
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on October 06, 2013, 04:04:05 PM
Quote from: SD on October 06, 2013, 04:02:42 PM
why or how is this being reviewed if the Giants are out of challenges?
Turnovers and TDs automatically reviewed.
I knew that, ignore me I'm hungover as shtein.
Quote from: SD on October 06, 2013, 03:59:54 PM
they actually covered Randle on the slant round...5th times the charm
Imagine if it didn't take donnie avery to make them realize you have to make that adjustment after the 4th, they might walk away with the division at .500
Eli, growing Koy Detmer's beard will not give you his quarterback powers. You look ridiculous.
McCoy gained half a yard, farg that lying announcer!
Foles is settling in nicely
of course the Giants are really really bad
ahahah...what the hell
Yep, Foles is just a hair slower than Vick.
farg you pimp haters
Pimpin ain't easy!
What the farg....a... a fade pass? The Eagles are allowed to throws those? Since when?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
farg you pimp haters
Is there really anyone left that hates him? He's dumb sometimes, but just on the offense he's probably the 10th guy in line to be hated.
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 04:08:16 PM
What the farg....a... a fade pass? The Eagles are allowed to throws those? Since when?
Since they got a quarterback that can't throw anything but them.
He has no arm but he's accurate and makes quick decisions.
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 04:04:23 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on October 06, 2013, 04:03:37 PM
Eagles are going to win the division without winning a game outside the division. 6-10 home team in the playoffs. Book it!
Oh please no. They need a good draft pick!
They need 20 good drat picks.
Meanwhile, we'll have to hear about how 10 took Cruz grandmother tribute away, waaaah
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Quote from: General_Failure on October 06, 2013, 04:05:11 PM
Eli, growing Koy Detmer's beard will not give you his quarterback powers. You look ridiculous.
He's indecisive, inaccurate, and throwing the ball to the wrong team. It don't get more Koy than that.
here comes the soft zone/prevent
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 06, 2013, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on October 06, 2013, 04:05:11 PM
Eli, growing Koy Detmer's beard will not give you his quarterback powers. You look ridiculous.
He's indecisive, inaccurate, and throwing the ball to the wrong team. It don't get more Koy than that.
He didn't slap his dick even once after their last touchdown and you know it.
He didn't get Koy's powers, he got McNabb's playoff powers!
holy shtein what happened to Eli Manning? He is lost
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 06, 2013, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on October 06, 2013, 04:05:11 PM
Eli, growing Koy Detmer's beard will not give you his quarterback powers. You look ridiculous.
He's indecisive, inaccurate, and throwing the ball to the wrong team. It don't get more Koy than that.
Back already from shooting your 10th randle reuben wadd?
Trying to run the clock? Better get jumpy for no raisin.
Wow. The Giants are epically bad this year. Holy shtein.
So we're in agreement the Giants run the table, make the playoffs, and beat Denver in the Manningbowl, right?
ill take it further than billick
eagle opponents from now till december are 8-22
Jones is a pretty good punter.
So this piece of shtein could be tied for first by tonight?
is today the quietest 36 pts ever?
Quote from: Don Ho on October 06, 2013, 04:16:24 PM
So this piece of shtein could be tied for first by tonight?
Irony at it's finest.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 06, 2013, 04:15:29 PM
So we're in agreement the Giants run the table, make the playoffs, and beat Denver in the Manningbowl, right?
No, we're in agreement the giants suck cork for 3.5 seasons, win the SB, then suck for another 3.5 seasons, SB, repeat.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 04:17:03 PM
is today the quietest 36 pts ever?
If Eli keeps choking they might back into 39.
Holy shtein the Bengals won.
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 06, 2013, 04:18:02 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on October 06, 2013, 04:15:29 PM
So we're in agreement the Giants run the table, make the playoffs, and beat Denver in the Manningbowl, right?
No, we're in agreement the giants suck cork for 3.5 seasons, win the SB, then suck for another 3.5 seasons, SB, repeat.
I would kill each and every one of you for that kind of Eagles success.
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 04:18:54 PM
Holy shtein the Bengals won.
brady got picked inside the 10 with 40 seconds left
And the Giants raise the white flag.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 04:18:54 PM
Holy shtein the Bengals won.
brady got picked inside the 10 with 40 seconds left
6.88 fantasy points. Killed me
I want another pick
Quote from: General_Failure on October 06, 2013, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 06, 2013, 04:18:02 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on October 06, 2013, 04:15:29 PM
So we're in agreement the Giants run the table, make the playoffs, and beat Denver in the Manningbowl, right?
No, we're in agreement the giants suck cork for 3.5 seasons, win the SB, then suck for another 3.5 seasons, SB, repeat.
I would kill each and every one of you for that kind of Eagles success.
I'd come back from the grave so you could kill me again if the farging Eagles would win a Super Bowl. Hell I'll just take one, I'm not that greedy.
on a scale of 1-10 how confident are you that the eagles will lose in tampa next week
pretty sure his knee was down on that intentional grounding...but whatever
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 04:21:12 PM
on a scale of 1-10 how confident are you that the eagles will lose in tampa next week
Nine, nine and a half.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 04:17:03 PM
is today the quietest 36 pts ever?
Yes sir it was. 36 points against the Gmen, I'm usually jumping up and down. Just a lame feel to it today.
a sack by BENNIE LOGAN
:igybatsignal:
im about an 8
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2013, 04:21:12 PM
on a scale of 1-10 how confident are you that the eagles will lose in tampa next week
8 to lose. 2 to win.
I like this Johnson fellow. He's got a lot of spunk.
Quote from: SD on October 06, 2013, 04:22:29 PM
a sack by BENNIE LOGAN
:igybatsignal:
I knew the lsu number 18 story was not far behind too
No chance of getting McCoy out there to maybe break off a 60 yard run to get over 100 all purpose yards for the day, I guess.
How bad does that call by Coughlin to decline the penalty in the first half look now? Wow, he's going to get roasted for that one.
Damn, all my picks this week are losing in the pool. Except the Chiefs, I did pick them.
And Philly, I did pick them to win this week.
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 04:24:33 PM
How bad does that call by Coughlin to decline the penalty in the first half look now? Wow, he's going to get roasted for that one.
Declined the penalty, wasted a timeout before getting screwed out of a second on a challenge. If Andy made so few mistakes per game, he'd still be coaching here.
Good job of Brown to stay in bounds on that run. :yay
Quote from: TexasEagle on October 06, 2013, 04:24:33 PM
How bad does that call by Coughlin to decline the penalty in the first half look now? Wow, he's going to get roasted for that one.
it would be really bad if it was just a one score game
Peters, stop being a bitch.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2013, 03:39:05 PM
When is the last time the Eagles had a pick? Washington?
POTW?
Quote from: General_Failure on October 06, 2013, 04:26:46 PM
Good job of Brown to stay in bounds on that run. :yay
Would have been a lot easier if he ran toward the opposing endzone and not the sideline.
Didn't get to watch the game (at work), is it still the End of Days this season? ???
Ok, Ok, it was just the Giants...
54321 white people GO
NICK FOLES BITCH
this guy was great
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Trevor Laws?
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Nice win yesterday. The defense is still putrid. LOL @ the qb controversy brewing. If Vick wasn't such an indecisive meathead on the field it'd be a no-brainer. Gotta hand it to Foles for ripping apart the worst defense in the NFL not named the Eagles, though.
First place.
The Giants D is legitimately worse than the Eagles D. They might be the only team I can say that about, though.
the eagles offense is legit and as soon as they get better in the redzone they are going to be a real problem.
the defense is the defense... the giants helped with a lot of the turnovers yesterday. they still aren't getting much of a pass rush when they blitz and the corners play too soft for my liking. i get trying to take away the home run pass but getting dink and dunked to death is more annoying than giving up bombs.
I don't know why anyone including Kelly would want Mike Vick behind center. Foles is and has been the better option for this team.
Agreed Shore. Kelly is stuck with him and has to play the guy.
it was a nice win--but how did I guess people would say this about foles today
foles played a legit 0-5 team with a disgusting defense, but he's now the better option? lets see what happens when defenses clamp down on mccoy now that the threat of vick running is not there. foles is not the future, not better than vick and poses way less of a threat in chips offense.
not sure if you saw it yesterday, but there is nothing special about chips offense--it's just different than reid's. instead of the fake play action you now have the fake shotgun handoff
well chips offense has had four 3 and outs this year. andy usually had that in a half.
you're right though, same offenses
you do realize the defenses this team has played so far correct?
no, i haven't watched any games. tell me?
I think it's safe to say that the 2014 starting QB is not currently on the roster. I'd be fine with starting Foles simply because Vick is what he is. Foles isn't athletic enough to run Kelly's offense, but he very well could run someone else's. If nothing else, Foles could improve his trade stock. I doubt it, but it's a better alternative to running Vick out there every week.
Quote from: SunMo on October 07, 2013, 10:16:31 AM
no, i haven't watched any games. tell me?
thats a shame.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 07, 2013, 10:20:17 AM
I think it's safe to say that the 2014 starting QB is not currently on the roster. I'd be fine with starting Foles simply because Vick is what he is. Foles isn't athletic enough to run Kelly's offense, but he very well could run someone else's. If nothing else, Foles could improve his trade stock. I doubt it, but it's a better alternative to running Vick out there every week.
i agree with starting foles although i think beyond a couple of the designed qb run plays he can run this offense. he makes quick decisions and is more accurate. he sees the whole field & throws to the spot unlike vick who seems to wait for a guy to be completely open. not saying he is the answer at qb for the long haul but getting a look at him for the next few weeks isn't a bad thing.
They should keep Vick as the starter just so Kelly can keep running the QB Eagles run play from Tecmo Super Bowl (http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/Chip-Kelly-stole-and-improved-the-QB-Eagles-run-play-from-Tecmo-Super-Bowl.html)
Now we know where that offensive genius comes from.
:-D
Quote from: Munson on October 07, 2013, 11:48:44 AM
They should keep Vick as the starter just so Kelly can keep running the QB Eagles run play from Tecmo Super Bowl (http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/Chip-Kelly-stole-and-improved-the-QB-Eagles-run-play-from-Tecmo-Super-Bowl.html)
fighting back manly tears
Quote from: reese125 on October 07, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
it was a nice win--but how did I guess people would say this about foles today
foles played a legit 0-5 team with a disgusting defense, but he's now the better option? lets see what happens when defenses clamp down on mccoy now that the threat of vick running is not there. foles is not the future, not better than vick and poses way less of a threat in chips offense.
Foles was a better option coming out of training camp, I don't care how good Vick played in pre-season. This isn't the first time it's been said.
I believe that Foles is better. He sees the field better, he's more accurate, gets the ball out quicker, and he doesn't stare receivers down and throw into double coverage.
Quotenot sure if you saw it yesterday, but there is nothing special about chips offense--it's just different than reid's. instead of the fake play action you now have the fake shotgun handoff
This I agree with, which is why I can't figure out why you'd say that Foles is
"way less of a threat in Chip's offense". He was better in Ried's offense, he'll be better in Kelley's offense.
id rather have foles in because its something a little different and i know what i have with vick but lets let foles play against a team that has time to prepare for him....his qb rating is over 100 when he comes inot a game and 80 when he starts....because he doesn't have an arm and cant move he should be super easy to defend because the field becomes so small with him in there
vicks two biggest strengths is that he can stretch the field with his arm and he can run
And yeah, those are Fole's biggest weaknesses. He's not going to kill you downfield and he's not running for any first downs, but he can move a little, steps up in the pocket good and can roll out.
I'm just tired of Vick, he brings nothing. I was shocked when Chip named him starter. It's an old story now and we all know how it ends.
I haven't seen a shred of evidence that Foles gives the team a better chance to win than Vick. The argument for starting Foles, and it's a good one, is that we know what Vick is and we know he won't be around next year. Starting Foles gives you an opportunity to see if this guy can grow into a legitimate starting role or is a perma-backup.
Running Foles out there all season would have been super risky for Chip because Vick clearly outplayed him in the preseason, and if Chip started Foles instead of making the safe move and it backfired big time, he would really look like an incompetent first year coach.
there is nothing that foles can do that kevin kolb cant
we know how the story ends
he has ten times the pocket presense and poise that cobb had...
small sample size so far but he also seems to be more accurate
Well he sure as hell didn't get through college on his arm strength.
10x's the presence and poise? jesus christ
yeah and when kolb became the 1st player in history to throw for over 300 yds and multiple td's his first 2 starts he had phenomenal pocket presence too.
they are both career backup qb's
no
one guy shouldn't be in the league...the other seems to be a solid back up
foles has much better touch on his balls than kolb can even dream to have
wait thats dirty
cobb had super happy feet...if there was the slightest bit of pressure he freaked out...he also couldn't throw at all on the move....he basically had to have a really big and safe pocket or he had no chance
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 07, 2013, 08:49:26 PM
cobb had super happy feet...if there was the slightest bit of pressure he freaked out...he also couldn't throw at all on the move....he basically had to have a really big and safe pocket or he had no chance
This. Kolb also probably had the better arm than Foles. I think Foles can be a good game manager type of a team with the right construction or a very good backup. I don't see him as the future of the team at QB but I have no problem with him getting spot starts as a backup when needed (or being the QB the rest of this year).
I'll wait for Munson to give any opinions on arm strength comparisons before casting judgement
is there anything that reese isn't 100% wrong on?
id love to see munson and reece go head to head on a wrong off
someone would have to win right?
Foles seems to have all of the mental and intangible tools you look for in a QB. He's poised, doesn't come undone under pressure, isn't afraid of big moments, has a high football IQ, makes quick decisions, takes control of the huddle.
Physically he has great size and is accurate.
But the arm. The arm is weak. I like the kid, I really do. But unless he starts doing some HGH I don't think you can expect his arm to get significantly stronger as time goes on. You could probably game plan around it to hide his weakness but it won't take defenses very long to adjust to that. He makes Alex Smith look like Jeff George.
i keep getting back to the fact that even with Vick, chipper didn't take many shots down the field. i think foles would do fine in this offense. he's a better decision maker than Vick and that's is huge in this offense
Quote from: SunMo on October 08, 2013, 08:35:40 AM
i keep getting back to the fact that even with Vick, chipper didn't take many shots down the field. i think foles would do fine in this offense. he's a better decision maker than Vick and that's is huge in this offense
I think he'd be ok, too. No worse than Vick. But one thing Vick still gives you is the threat of the run and Foles doesn't. And Shady has been a big time beneficiary of that. Vick also does give you the threat of a deep ball and even if the Eagles aren't throwing deep that often, the threat of it forces defenses to respect it and play further off the LOS. This opens things up underneath and allows for some of these WR screens to pick up big chunks of yardage. I think a lot of that goes away when defenses know they don't have to worry about anything 25 yds beyond the LOS.
I'm still all for starting Foles, though. I just don't know how viable he'd be in the long run. There's limitations on how far you can stretch the field with him and once defensive coordinators get a hold of plenty of film on him and Chip's offense, there's a strong possibility that they'd figure out how to shut it down.
i take chip at his word when he says he would design the offense around his qb's strengths. even with a mobile qb they don't run that much read option. i think against the giants was the most called qb runs we've seen this year. i agree that shady is a beneficiary of the threat of Vick running, but there are maybe 5-6 qbs in the nfl that pose that threat and teams still have good running games. i have to think you can scheme shady into good running plays
I don't disagree with any of that. My main concern is long term effectiveness of a Foles/Kelly tandem. I just don't see it at this point.
Quote from: SunMo on October 08, 2013, 08:20:28 AM
is there anything that reese isn't 100% wrong on?
you and your chubby friend wish you could predict as many things right as me
oh ive been wrong just like anybody else, but way way more right--fact
just keep banking on nick farging foles.
you guys are making this tougher than it really is ... just ask yourself, who gives the eagles less of a chance to win therefore giving the team a better chance to secure their qb of the future in next year's draft ?
that's your guy. :yay
Soooooo......get Cobb?
get gj kinne
see now you guys are thinking outside of the box.
thinking or thinkinne?
The Eagles had the second most productive and sixth scoring offense in the NFL with Vick, and we're talking about putting in a quarterback who can't throw the ball 35 yards down the field.
And it might be the right move.
it wasnt like vick was lighting people up tho...sd they were off the hook but all vicks other games he was in the 200 yard range....people do that in their sleep these days in the nfl....200 yards is like 110 yards 15 years ago
and his completion % is comical
and dont forget those amazing 3rd down and redzone conversion rates of his.
And the dozen or so long passes this season he overthrew anyway.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 08, 2013, 01:00:12 PM
And the dozen or so long passes this season he overthrew anyway.
Vick's arm is too strong! Maybe a weaker arm completes those passes!
Kelly is jean-yous!
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2013/10/08/22-kelce-nut-stunt-run-game-struggles/
good breakdown of why the eagles struggled to run the ball this week
Sunny, that is some good shtein. Thank you for sharing.