DT 6'2" 309
... yeah, whatever.
I like this one.
Productive player who is very strong
great pick, fills a need, high ceiling
igy will be here shortly to say the exact opposite
i guess we shouldnt have expected any differently with howie at the helm...but this draft is slowing veering towards armageddon
Quote from: SD on April 26, 2013, 08:54:28 PM
great pick, fills a need, high ceiling
igy will be here shortly to say the exact opposite
lol
QuoteBryan Broaddus @BryanBroaddus 3m
Bennie Logan...kick to the gut in the Cowboys War Room...
they were just about to take a running back until a string of bad tweets came in that said "wtf are you guys doing?" by lurie
nice pick that fills a need...keep it going
he was just an ok college player....cat is going to be a non entity in the nfl
Chipwich said they had a second round grade on him
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
Chipwich said they had a second round grade on him
shocking revelation
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
Chipwich said they had a second round grade on him
yep..here we go
At least igs will like Logan's Twitter name.....Da_King_Son18
QuoteChip Kelly: "You know our mentality -- Big people beat up little people."
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2013, 09:08:34 PM
QuoteChip Kelly: "You know our mentality -- Big people beat up little people."
cutting edge stuff right there....eagles got themselves a football socrates
yeah i can see how 6'2 guys can do that to 6'6 offensive lineman
maybe hes talking about in practice when hes going against kelce
also did i miss where bennie gained 30 lbs....its not like hes jonathan jenkins
QuoteLogan Earned right to wear prestigious No. 18 as a junior in 2012. Tradition goes back to QB Matt Mauck, who wore No. 18 during 2003 national title run. Jersey is handed down to a player best representing what it means to be a Tiger on and off the field. Coordinator John Chavis on Logan: 'It's important to help your young guys learn how to practice, and leadership is not just in the games. It's every day. It's every minute you're on the field, and when you've got a guy like Bennie Logan in your room, he's going to set the tempo
Oh man, that ten year old tradition really means something, you don't even know.
unless he goes in the next three picks jesse williams will be avaiable to the birds....meaning they could have taken a damontre moore in the 3rd round and jesse williams in the fourth in place of farging bennie logan in the 3rd
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
unless he goes in the next three picks jesse williams will be avaiable to the birds....meaning they could have taken a damontre moore in the 3rd round and jesse williams in the fourth in place of farging bennie logan in the 3rd
This logic is incorrect. Had the birds taken damontre moore in the 3rd round all picks thereafter would be affected by this alteration. So, you can't make that assumption.
Quote from: Chameleon on April 26, 2013, 11:25:47 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
unless he goes in the next three picks jesse williams will be avaiable to the birds....meaning they could have taken a damontre moore in the 3rd round and jesse williams in the fourth in place of farging bennie logan in the 3rd
This logic is incorrect. Had the birds taken damontre moore in the 3rd round all picks thereafter would be affected by this alteration. So, you can't make that assumption.
actually what i said is fact not logic...or perhaps its both
anyway the point is jesse williams is better than bennie logan and they could have had him a round later...freeing them up to take another player better than bennie logan in the 3rd round...even if that player wouldnt have been damontre moore
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2013, 11:29:52 PM
Quote from: Chameleon on April 26, 2013, 11:25:47 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
unless he goes in the next three picks jesse williams will be avaiable to the birds....meaning they could have taken a damontre moore in the 3rd round and jesse williams in the fourth in place of farging bennie logan in the 3rd
This logic is incorrect. Had the birds taken damontre moore in the 3rd round all picks thereafter would be affected by this alteration. So, you can't make that assumption.
actually what i said is fact not logic...or perhaps its both
anyway the point is jesse williams is better than bennie logan and they could have had him a round later...freeing them up to take another player better than bennie logan in the 3rd round...even if that player wouldnt have been damontre moore
What you said is not a fact. What you said is terribad logic.////
Quote from: Chameleon on April 27, 2013, 02:18:10 AM
What you said is not a fact. What you said is terribad logic.
you may love bennie logan and thus dont agree with what im saying which is fine.....but lets take a look
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
unless he goes in the next three picks jesse williams will be avaiable to the birds - FACT (jesse williams will be avaiable if he doesnt go in the next three picks)
they could have taken a damontre moore in the 3rd round - FACT (damontre moore WAS available to the birds in the 3rd)
LSU bio (http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=3659753)
NFLDraftScout:
QuoteSTRENGTHS: Possesses a stout frame, thick lower-half and long, strong arms. Flashes a quick burst off the snap to slip through gaps. Possesses good upper-body strength, demonstrating the functional strength to bull-rush guards and centers deep into the pocket before ripping himself free to pursue the quarterback. Flashes the explosive upper-body strength to shed blocks quickly and latch onto backs as they attempt to run past. Occasionally will use an arm-over swim move with some effectiveness. Good lateral agility to "play the keys" and pursue down the line of scrimmage. Good hustle laterally and even for up to 10 yards downfield, earning the right to wear No. 18.
WEAKNESSES: Didn't take the step in his development in 2012 that scouts had hoped to see from him. Doesn't use his swim move often enough, simply resorting to his bull-rush, which decreases in effectiveness as he tires and loses his pad level. Gets caught up in the hand to hand combat at the line of scrimmage and loses track of the ball.
Plays with a high-motor but too often relies on his effort to make plays when his initial burst or push doesn't work, showing few complementary moves for a player with his experience. Frequently is substituted as part of LSU's rotation, which raises concerns about his readiness to play consistent snaps against even better competition in the NFL.
Compares to: Brodrick Bunkley, DT, New Orleans Saints -- Just as it was for Bunkley when leaving Florida State seven years ago, the talent is in Logan to develop into a legitimate NFL starter and perhaps even turn into a standout. To do so, however, he'll need to develop a greater array of pass rush moves. Otherwise, his strength and effort should be enough to help him carve out a niche as a solid run-stuffing presence in the middle.
NOLA.com (http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2013/04/lsu_defensive_tackle_bennie_lo_1.html)
QuoteWhile defensive tackles Shariff Floyd of Florida and Star Lotulelei of Utah had the highest profile, Logan has made up a lot of ground as a sleeper pick. He displayed first-round talent but not on a consistent basis according to most experts.
"The more I see of this kid the more I like him," said NFL.com analyst Mike Mayock. "He plays hard. He didn't have the same kind of PR that the [Glenn] Dorseys and all of those other LSU defensive tackles have had. But he may be a better pro than he was a college player. And he was a very good college player."
Logan played end in high school and was able to add weight without losing his quickness. He's aware that his size and quickness won't get him anywhere without the smarts to play the game.
"His strength is toughness, but the other thing is his football knowledge. He has a great football IQ," said LSU defensive line coach Brick Haley, who coached the Chicago Bears defensive line for two seasons. "He's a student of the game, he understands it and it's important to him. He's going to have instant credibility because he'll be able to talk about blocking schemes and the things he's getting when he comes off the field. A lot of guys have to be taught that."
Strengths: He's far from the largest defensive tackle playing on Sundays, but he has the thick, space-filling frame needed in an NFL tackle. He has good, but not elite strength, quickness and athleticism. Logan is a relentless worker, and made many of his collegiate highlights by simply out-hustling opponents. A leader on and off the field, he was given the jersey number 18 in his final season at LSU, which has been given each season since 2003 to the player who best represents what it means to be a "Tiger on and off the field." NFL teams are always looking for a well-rounded player who excels on the field, in the locker room and away from the team, no matter what his measurable attributes are.
Weaknesses: His production in 2012 slipped from the previous season. That could be due to former first-round draft pick Michael Brockers no longer lining up beside him to draw the attention of opposing linemen. Logan never made the gains to become as coveted a commodity as Brockers, but he was no doubt productive. He also played in an often rotating defensive line unit and rarely saw action on every down of a drive, which could raise questions about his ability to handle an every-down NFL workload.
bunk comparison is terrible i think....bunk flashed like crazy in college...bennie is so bleh
maybe this is a good thing tho...bunk sucked in the nfl
"...and he was a very good college player..."
Oh really? But...
the locked up this stud
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2013/11/13/wake-call-logan-azzinaro-effect/
QuoteBennie Logan was checking his Twitter feed and kept getting messages that read something to the effect of: "Now is your time." That's when he knew something was going on.
Veteran nose guard Isaac Sopoaga had been shipped to New England at the trade deadline, thrusting the third-round pick out of LSU into a starting role.
"It caught me by surprise," said Logan. "I looked up to Isaac. He was a great influence on me, a great leader. But the next day, once I came here [to the NovaCare facility], I was like, 'It's time for me to step up and go forward. Can't look back. He's not here anymore. It's just all on me now.' "
Sopoaga's brief stint in Philadelphia was a disappointment. Still, it says something about the organization's confidence in Logan that it was comfortable removing the safety net and placing the starting tackle job in the hands of a rookie. So far, Logan has rewarded that confidence.
He has 23 tackles, two sacks and three hurries on the year. More important than stats, Logan is at the center of a defensive front that is, as Mychal Kendricks said, "killing it, bro."
The linebackers have been the biggest beneficiary of the front's work. The trio of Logan, Fletcher Cox and Cedric Thornton (along with the rest of the rotation) have been effective at occupying blockers, allowing Kendricks (who is currently sidelined with a knee injury) and DeMeco Ryans to roam free. According to team stats, that duo has 213 tackles between them through 10 games. Billy Davis has said on multiple occasions now that Ryans is having a Pro Bowl year. Ryans consistently credits the d-line for letting him work.
"I think this gets lost in it, but every single practice Azz [d-line coach Jerry Azzinaro] takes those guys on the sled, and they hit the sled, which is really uncommon in the NFL," said Davis. "The level of fundamental work we do on the defensive line, and we felt that we had to have that happen for us to grow into a two‑gap system, and the young guys by the way they're playing and the techniques, their footwork, their hand placement, I think it's a tribute to the coaching they're getting at the position level and their willingness to dive in and ‑‑ you see that in the run game, and it's also why DeMeco and Mychal are productive. The front line always has a lot to do with how the inside backers are playing."
The defensive front is making the job of Ryans — the quarterback of the defense — easier in more ways than one. Under the tutelage of Azzinaro, the defensive line has a sound understanding of concepts beyond their own positional play. They are capable of making their own checks pre-snap, according to Clifton Geathers.
"He got us football smarter," said Geathers of Azzinaro. "We can look at backfield sets, we can make checks on the d-line. We know what to do and we know where the linebackers are going to be. We can say certain things and we can do certain things and the linebackers understand what we're doing."
The Eagles have allowed just one 100-yard rusher this season, and have held opponents to under 100 rushing yards in five of their last six outings. Cox is 22 years old. Thornton, one of the year's biggest surprises, is 25. Logan, 23, is the greenest of the bunch. Together, they make up a unit that is suddenly gushing with promise.
If Bennie could turn out to be a very good NT and Foles a legit QB of the future, my whole outlook for this team changes dramatically. In a 3-4, especially the 2-gap they want to employ, the NT and rush backer are the core of the defense. A month ago it was looking like they might need to use their 1st and second rounders for a shot at a possible franchise QB.
If they went offense with their 1st 2 picks for the second year in a row, rebuilding the D is looking like a 4 year project. Now, if they have a legit NT and QB they can go with a rush OLB to compliment Barwin and suddenly they are looking good, especially since they should have a ton of cap space next year.
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 14, 2013, 12:07:10 AM
In a 3-4, especially the 2-gap they want to employ, the NT and rush backer are the core of the defense. A month ago it was looking like they might need to use their 1st and second rounders for a shot at a possible franchise QB.
If they went offense with their 1st 2 picks for the second year in a row, rebuilding the D is looking like a 4 year project. Now, if they have a legit NT and QB they can go with a rush OLB to compliment Barwin and suddenly they are looking good, especially since they should have a ton of cap space next year.
amazing what a couple wins over the raiders and scott tolzein will do for a franchises future
I still like just about everything I see from Foles other than his deep ball. And by deep ball I mean anything over like 20 yards. As fluid and effortless as Vick's deep ball is, Foles' is the exact opposite. Some tighter mechanics might improve things a little, but his entire body looks like its about to explode when he's winding up.
he has room to get better still but right now hes basically a tall ryan fitzpatrick
i feel like people are way overreacting to him because hes not mike vick.....which i cant blame them for because vick is an atrocity
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 14, 2013, 01:54:26 PM
he has room to get better still but right now hes basically a tall ryan fitzpatrick
i feel like people are way overreacting to him because hes not mike vick.....which i cant blame them for because vick is an atrocity
fitzpatrick reminds me of rob johnson - can run but doesn't have a lot of talent other than that.
Foles to me seems like he has a pretty high floor but his ceiling might be a better version of Andy Dalton (though Dalton has a slightly better arm).
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 14, 2013, 01:54:26 PM
he has room to get better still but right now hes basically a tall ryan fitzpatrick
i feel like people are way overreacting to him because hes not mike vick.....which i cant blame them for because vick is an atrocity
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Haha
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/03/eagles_player_threatened_on_twitter_with_picture_of_a_gun.html
Detroit seriously is the armpit of america. Everyone there thinks they're some special hustler, meanwhile they live in a city largely vacant. I deal with alot of ish from that part of the country and it's mindboggling.
homie was spot on...logan got raped in that saints game...if you cant take that small level of criticsm you def shouldnt be on twitter
also whats up with that gun...looks like a hand me down from calamity jane
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 12, 2014, 10:13:34 AM
homie was spot on...logan got raped in that saints game...if you cant take that small level of criticsm you def shouldnt be on twitter
also whats up with that gun...looks like a hand me down from calamity jane
0 Chance that thing has serial numbers since it was a prop on Deadwood for sure.
Dude needs a fingernail clipper, stat.
You can't make veiled threats while using racial slurs on the internet.
The farg did he think was gonna happen?
Dumb ass.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 12, 2014, 10:20:14 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 12, 2014, 10:13:34 AM
homie was spot on...logan got raped in that saints game...if you cant take that small level of criticsm you def shouldnt be on twitter
also whats up with that gun...looks like a hand me down from calamity jane
0 Chance that thing has serial numbers since it was a prop on Deadwood for sure.
i got a six shooter and a horse named trigger....
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 12, 2014, 10:13:34 AM
homie was spot on...logan got raped in that saints game...if you cant take that small level of criticsm you def shouldnt be on twitter
I feel like a coach or mentor should go over social media with players once they become part of their team. Nothing good ever comes out of it. (see Shady)
part of every players physical should include a measurement of their skin and if it doesnt reach a certain thickness you can not go on social media
Which makes us CF'ers better than athletes for the abuse we hand out to each other on a daily basis?
Look, these idiots grew up with the internet. Nobody's pulling them into meetings to explain how to tie their shoes, at least not until their third concussion, but the point is they should already know how to farging use the internet.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 12, 2014, 12:16:20 PM
Which makes us CF'ers better than athletes for the abuse we hand out to each other on a daily basis?
We have thick vaginas.
http://youtu.be/hVNojmpkwx8
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20150901_Bennie_Logan_a_small_wonder_on_Eagles__defense.html
QuoteBennie Logan a small wonder on Eagles' defense
Paul Domowitch, Daily News NFL Columnist
Posted: Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 3:01 AM
ON THE Green Bay Packers' first offensive play Saturday night, Eagles nose tackle Bennie Logan powered his way by center Corey Linsley into the Packers' backfield and just missed tackling running back Eddie Lacy for a loss.
On the next play, he put Linsley on roller skates and drove him 5 yards into the backfield, where he teamed with linebacker Brandon Graham to drop Lacy for a 4-yard loss.
On the first play of the Packers' next possession, there was Logan again, 2 yards on the other side of the line of scrimmage, forcing running back John Starks to take an unwanted east-west detour, where linebacker Connor Barwin was waiting and held him to a 1-yard gain.
"Bennie has really been a disruptive force in the run game for us," Eagles head coach Chip Kelly said yesterday morning. "I think he's been difficult to block in all three of these preseason games. He's causing a lot of havoc, getting penetration into the backfield and disrupting the timing of plays.
"I think he's played really well, and may be playing as well as anybody on our defensive line right now."
Yes, he is. And maybe this would be a good time to point out that there was more than a fair amount of skepticism about Logan two years ago when the Eagles selected him in the third round of the 2013 draft.
At 6-2 and 309 pounds, many wondered whether he was big enough to play nose tackle in defensive coordinator Bill Davis' two-gap 3-4 scheme. OK, yeah, if you must know, I was one of those who wondered that.
Kelly and Davis never wondered, though. And neither did Logan.
"People look at nose tackle and think you have to be this huge guy," Logan said. "But I don't measure a nose tackle by [body] size. I measure them by heart.
"How much heart and effort are you willing to put in to be the best? Size doesn't really mean anything. It's all about the heart and pride you have when you're lining up against a guy."
The Eagles are one of 17 NFL teams that play a 3-4 base defense. Ten have a starting nose tackle who weighs 330 pounds or more. That doesn't include Houston's Vince Wilfork, who is listed as 325, but hasn't weighed that little since he was in kindergarten.
Logan is the league's second lightest starting nose tackle. Only the Chargers' Sean Lissemore is lighter (303).
"Early on, people were skeptical just because of my weight," Logan said. "But I weighed the same my first year as I weigh now. I didn't pay any attention [to what people were saying]. I just went out and worked on my technique and fundamentals. I just went out and tried to be dominant within the scheme.
"It's all about technique and how hard you want to work to be better than you were yesterday."
Here in Kellyville, they refer to that attitude as growth mindset.
"I don't think you have to be 340 to play this defense," defensive end Fletcher Cox said. "You just have to be really physical and put your hands on people."
Said Barwin: "I've been in the league for a while now. You see guys who look like they should be the most dominant players and aren't. And I've seen guys who are a little bit smaller and are some of the best football players I've ever seen.
"I've learned to hold any kind of judgment until I see what they do when they put the pads on. And as soon as Bennie got here, you could see what kind of player he was going to be."
Logan, Cox and Cedric Thornton form one of the best 3-4 fronts in the league. Last year, the Eagles finished tied for fifth in yards allowed per carry (3.7), and were third over the final eight games (3.5).
"It's all about the way we train," Logan said. "It doesn't just happen on game day. It happens during the week. Coach [Davis] does a great job of getting us ready for each opponent we face. It's the preparation during the week and in OTAs and the preseason."
Logan played in a one-gap scheme at LSU, but has made a smooth transition to Davis' two-gap 3-4. He has the versatility to play anywhere along the front, and often does.
"I felt I could've fit into any defensive scheme wherever I went," Logan said. "When I came here, [Davis] told me he wanted me to play the nose. It was a challenge for me, but one I was looking forward to. I've never been one to run from a challenge. I accepted it and faced it head on."
Logan said the perception that two-gap linemen mainly try to occupy blockers so that their linebackers can make plays isn't necessarily accurate.
"Most of the time you're playing one gap," he said. "But at the same time, you're still playing the backside gap whenever the ball presents itself. It's not like we're hanging on blocks for the linebackers to run free or anything like that. We just play our technique and our responsibility. And if the ball is there, just get off and make the play. But we do keep our linebackers free because we play our technique."
Logan has started 24 games the last two seasons, including all 16 last year. He had two sacks as a rookie, when he played 488 snaps, but none last year when he played 656, although his five hurries were the fifth most on the defense.
That's mainly because he wasn't used much on passing downs. He had only 296 pass-rush opportunities in 656 snaps last season, according to Pro Football Focus. By comparison, Cox had 569 in 962 snaps.
Because of depth issues at outside linebacker, Vinny Curry, who had nine sacks last season primarily as an interior rusher in sub-packages, is expected to be used some at linebacker this season.
When Curry moves to linebacker, Logan or Thornton would replace him as an interior rusher alongside Cox.
"I'm looking forward to it," Logan said. "But whatever they need me to do I'm willing to do it. Whenever my number is called, I'm always ready."
kempski put out a video of 10 great plays by bennie in the first three preseasons games thus far...carry that into a regular season he will have suceeded my wildest hopes...of which i basically had none....id also like to see him get up the field a little more and bag a few sacks this year...its weird that hes very light yet has not shown an ounce of pass rush ability
He's been a reliable starter so far. Nothing extraordinary. But hey, he was a third rounder and he's an undersized player at a position where guys are usually walking Lincoln monuments. Not bad considering Howie's wretched drafting history.
Quote from: Rome on September 01, 2015, 08:03:53 AM
He's been a reliable starter so far. Nothing extraordinary. But hey, he was a third rounder and he's an undersized player at a position where guys are usually walking Lincoln monuments. Not bad considering Howie's wretched drafting history.
He's been more than a reliable starter. Some of that is due to playing next to Cox who is a top 5 D lineman but Logan is playing at a borderline pro bowl level. Reminds me a bit of Simon/Darwin Walker (insert thigh joke). They complimented each other really well.
Not sure what comes after reliable starter on the hierarchical list. He's been productive but it's not as if he's been a force of nature like Cox has.
Elite
Pro bowler
Potential Pro Bowler
Reliable Starter
Solid Rotation guy/4th DT
Trevor Laws
Logan fits the potential Pro Bowler. He's not a Pro Bowler yet but you can see it coming. I think he's the most under rated player on the team.
I could not care less about pro-bowls or how many sacks he or any other player gets. If this defense can keep other teams from outscoring the offense while being on the field for 40 minutes a game I will be utterly thrilled.
Defense does look markedly better, overall. "Experts" keep talking about how the defense was good last year, which is kind of nonsense. They played well in stretches, and were completely awful for stretches-- and the big plays they gave up at the worst times were ridiculous. Inconsistency like that is never "good." But they've looked pretty consistent this preseason. Hope it holds up.
at the heart of what really killed them last year was the inability to get off the field...and im not just talking about the defense...im talking about the offense staying on the field...the eagles offense last year had by far the most least time consuming drives in the league and it wasnt close....they either scored super fast or went three and out and this hurt the defense....
if you look the defenses avg per play numbers they were not horrible...but the total numbers were terrible because they had so many damn plays run against them......dont get it twisted the secondary was an abomination and would have sucked regardless but the defense as a whole did not get a ton of help from the offense...its why chip loves depth so much...he wants to be able to have a rotation system at every level of the defense to keep guys fresh because he certainly isnt going to change his offensive philosophy and slow down
If the offense is putting up 35-40 points a game your defense should be able to keep the opposing team below that regardless of how long they're on the field.
Chip needs to learn that I when it starts to go wrong and the defense needs a blow, it's not a crime to gear down a bit. The question is will he ever adjust to that or just say farg it and keep on keeping on.
Also - other than Fletcher there's still not a single difference maker on this defense. They have guys with potential/talent (Kendricks. Alonso) that warrant that kind of acknowledgement, but overall, that is still a fairly mediocre group of players out there. Expecting great things from them is just silly. Expecting them to keep teams under 25 points a game is realistic, though.
Conor Barwin, who I am generally luke warm about, was absolutely a play-maker/difference-maker last year. I sort of think that his season was an outlier but it's hard to argue with his sacks/TFLs.
I stand corrected. I forgot him. In my defense, he's white, so...
Quote from: Rome on September 01, 2015, 11:05:08 AM
If the offense is putting up 35-40 points a game your defense should be able to keep the opposing team below that regardless of how long they're on the field.
the eagles lost exactly one game when they scored more than 24 pts
there were no 40-37 or 48-44 losses
fact is the offense and the defense last year were both wildly inconsistent at times...the offensive struggles get immediately fixed with a healthy bradford....the defense is more up in the air...but you would think and hope that the secondary has to be better just by who they dont have anymore....how much they upgraded is the question
and the front seven with a healthy kiko and if brandon graham can earn his money is LEGIT
Yeah, I will say that Brandon Graham looks like a completely different guy. It's almost like he wants to play or something. I'd written him off completely, but he's looking like an actual contributor so far.
i cant say ive seen that....not much has changed with him for me other than his new deal and im more putting faith in chip and billy davis not to have given him that money unless they believe he can play up to it than i am in full belief that hes all of a sudden a whole different player
They're average talent-wise. There's no Reggie White or Seth Joyner or Easy E back there.
I like the group as a whole but let's tone down the hype machine a bit, shall we?
Graham was super effective/efficient in limited snaps last year. If he can do that with an expanded role this front seven will be disgustingly good. An Eagles team that goes five deep with legit LB talent? Never thought I'd see the day.
Right. But they were limited. I think he's looked pretty energetic and has settled into that expanded role. Now, keep in mind, I'd written him off as a complete bust...so being surprised means that I'd be pretty happy if he turned in a solid if unspectacular year at the position. I mean, I thought he'd be nothing.
well BG did say he expects to get 32 sacks this year and billy davis is looking forward to him breaking the single season sack record....so they got that going for them this year
He should have always been a pass rushing OLB in a 3-4 set. It's not his fault that Reid tried to square peg him.
And his ceiling is double digit sacks. If he gets 10, it's a huge get for them.
actually he is the classic 4-3 end....its why everyone thought hed be gone sooner rather than later once billy dee rolled into town...him and chip are trying to make BG into a guy that can drop into coverage a little versus being strictly an edge rusher
Reggie White is the classic 4-3 end. Brandon Graham is not.
Graham is a classic 4-3 end in a Andy Reid/JJ defense. Look at their other ends, Hugh, Abiamiri, Mcdougle etc. These guys all have a similar body type and style that Graham has. They like those short low center of gravity types. Personally I prefer the tall rangy type but to each their own.
I spent the better part of the last decade trying to forget McDougle & Abiamiri. Thanks for reminding me.
PS: Jevon Kearse says wassup.
jevon kearse was maybe the quickest guy i ever saw off the edge and the eagles tried to turn him into that stupid joker bullshtein....god did that make me mad
I don't think I've ever been as pumped as a fan as I was the day they signed Kearse. And then getting Owens on top of it? Heady days...
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 01, 2015, 01:48:42 PM
jevon kearse was maybe the quickest guy i ever saw off the edge and the eagles tried to turn him into that stupid joker bullshtein....god did that make me mad
Yup...they finally got a prototype DE and they line him up all over the field. Frustrating.
Bennie Logan!
so basically if the eagles score more points than the opposition theyll win?
do i have this correct
Only if Brandon Graham has 32 sacks.
Quote from: Rome on September 01, 2015, 02:11:13 PM
I don't think I've ever been as pumped as a fan as I was the day they signed Kearse. And then getting Owens on top of it? Heady days...
Beermonkey loved Kearse - I think he would have leg humped him lol
Logan has been very good. I loved the pick at the time.
And lolol at the line of Wikfork being listed at 325 but not being that weight since kindergarten
(http://i.imgur.com/cFKd0sN.jpg)
Crocodile lives matter!
bennie and the jets rocked that crocodile
I know they all look the same to you, but that's an alligator.
Is he wearing cowboy boots and sweat shorts?
Of course he is.
Very well. Carry on then.
going to kc on a 1 year deal.
farg.
Better than Washington though.
think positive....they can get him back this time next year
We can only hope.
j likes the weirdest people
I like Bennie Logan too. Good player. Hate to see him go.
That said, what would Jay's twitter feed have looked like back in the day when Mike Golic signed with Miami?
He probably got charged overtime for his AOL account.
Haha!
Didn't really like Golic
Was crushed when Eric Allen and Reggie left
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 14, 2017, 01:07:48 AM
Was crushed when Eric Allen and Reggie left
did it leave you emotionally scarred ?
I was enraged when Reggie left. I hoped he'd die screaming at some point. Oops.
I snorted.
I was way more mad at Braman than I was Reggie. In fact, I don't remember being mad at Reggie at all. Or any of those guys that left once free agency became a thing.
I was mad at God, he told Reggie to go to Green Bay.
I wasn't mad at him for leaving, but I thought going in the HOF as a Packer was bullshtein.
I thought it was bullshtein that he got a pass for being an ignorant racist because he could dog a quarterback. Kinda like Brown was mourned widely without being castigated even slightly for killing his 8 year old nephew.
Hero worship is shtein.
Quote from: SD on March 15, 2017, 01:52:41 PM
I was mad at God, he told Reggie to go to Green Bay.
This is the correct answer. No human could change what God put in motion.
Quote from: Zanshin on March 15, 2017, 02:23:11 PM
I wasn't mad at him for leaving, but I thought going in the HOF as a Packer was bullshtein.
Didn't really bother me. He had his best statistical success by far with the Eagles but won a SB in GB. I think going in the hall with GB was his final farg you to Braman.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 15, 2017, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on March 15, 2017, 02:23:11 PM
I wasn't mad at him for leaving, but I thought going in the HOF as a Packer was bullshtein.
Didn't really bother me. He had his best statistical success by far with the Eagles but won a SB in GB. I think going in the hall with GB was his final farg you to Braman.
I think you're right. Still didn't like it, mostly because he said he wasn't going to do that at one point. But I'm not losing sleep over it.
I wasn't happy about it, but even at the time it ranked really really low on my list of things to give a shtein about and it ranks even lower now.
NFL players don't actually go into the HOF as a member of any team. This is a baseball thing (due to the cap) that people think applies to every sport.
Well, he's wearing Packers shtein. I'm not talking letter of the law.
dio is right....why would you want a racist zealot representing your team
I'd vote for Trump a thousand times if he owned the Birds and won me a Super Bowl.
Priorities, bitch.
i mean romey is an fsu fan so obviously not caring about anything but wins is his thing
Temple produced Bill Cosby and Kevin Hart. You got bigger problems than me, bub.
i literally have no idea what that has to do with you cheering for rapists. nobody cheers for cosby or has cared about him for decades....this was before his gross crimes were known.
Never learn about your heroes, and root for laundry. This is what I'm getting here.
how about dont justify rape and assault and bigotry when it comes from members of a sports team you like
But what if they're really good at sports?
some people choose the right path and others worship reggie "gays are evil" white and root for fsu football
Excuse me... I worship the cousin killer not the fundie mouth breather.
Quote from: Rome on March 16, 2017, 06:55:53 AM
Excuse me... I worship the cousin killer not the fundie mouth breather.
again, priorities, right ?
Damn skippy mah nippy.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 15, 2017, 08:41:48 PM
Never learn about your heroes, and root for laundry.
And finally, after many many years, CF justifies its existence. This is life advice that everyone needs to learn.
i have life advice for you: stop breathing
womp womp :(
I would say 'you can do better than that' and act disappointed, but this is you we're talking about.