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Title: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on March 20, 2012, 07:09:12 PM
According to Jay Glazer and John McClain he has been traded to the Eagles for an undisclosed draft pick.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 20, 2012, 07:09:49 PM
Uh, what?  For real?
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on March 20, 2012, 07:11:21 PM
Yes for real
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 20, 2012, 07:14:41 PM
SD patting his own back in 3...2....1...
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on March 20, 2012, 07:16:18 PM
They apparently got him for a mid-round pick......he will only be 28 when the season starts.  Better suited for the 4-3
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on March 20, 2012, 07:30:05 PM
[napoleon dynamite]YES!![/napoleon dynamite]
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on March 20, 2012, 07:33:10 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 20, 2012, 07:16:18 PM
They apparently got him for a mid-round pick......he will only be 28 when the season starts.  Better suited for the 4-3

and recovering from injury, just the way the Eagles like em
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on March 20, 2012, 07:34:03 PM
His injury was in 2010
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BobbyT on March 20, 2012, 07:37:08 PM
If healthy - Nice!
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2012, 07:39:15 PM
Outstanding.

Texans fan friends are pissed...

Great move.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on March 20, 2012, 07:43:38 PM
Swapped 3rd rounders and gave up the 4th acquired from TB.  Provided he stays healthy this is a great move.  Not much given up.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: reese125 on March 20, 2012, 07:44:07 PM
If he goes back into 4-3 beast mode this d just got a whole lot better--question mark is will he return to his 2010 pre-achilles injury self. 50-50.

I'll take it though because they at least addressed the issue and dude is a stud.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on March 20, 2012, 07:46:24 PM
From all accounts he played much better in the second half of the season last year.  Got to think that is a good sign that he is recovering well. 
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Feva on March 20, 2012, 07:49:03 PM
A 2 time pro bowl player for basically a 4th round pick?

Hell yes!
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 20, 2012, 07:50:06 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 20, 2012, 07:43:38 PM
Swapped 3rd rounders and gave up the 4th acquired from TB.  Provided he stays healthy this is a great move.  Not much given up.

Not bad.

He's an upgrade over what they have now. He'll be two years removed from a torn achilles. His numbers were down last season but he's still a damn good LB.

Quote from: Diomedes on March 20, 2012, 07:14:41 PM
SD patting his own back in 3...2....1...

Didn't see this coming, thought they'd sign a guy like Tulloch. I actually like Ryans better if he can regain his pro bowl form. He's still only 27 years old so it's not like he's some 32 year old that needs to be put out to pasture.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 20, 2012, 07:53:22 PM
IGY used to love this guy. Will now probably declare that he is clearly damaged goods.

NOTHING GOOD IS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN FOR US
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on March 20, 2012, 08:02:41 PM
His numbers were down partially because he only played 58% of the snaps last season. 
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on March 20, 2012, 08:05:14 PM
So, they'll play him at SS?
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 20, 2012, 08:07:06 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on March 20, 2012, 08:05:14 PM
So, they'll play him at SS?

During 1st and 2nd downs, they'll line him up at DT on 3rd downs.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: reese125 on March 20, 2012, 08:11:47 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 20, 2012, 07:53:22 PM
IGY used to love this guy. Will now probably declare that he is clearly damaged goods.

NOTHING GOOD IS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN FOR US

hes in guest mode right now reading all these replies trying to conjure up a contrarian point of view. when hes ready he'll sign in.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 20, 2012, 08:15:03 PM
more toys for juany!
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 20, 2012, 08:21:29 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 20, 2012, 07:53:22 PM
IGY used to love this guy. Will now probably declare that he is clearly damaged goods.

NOTHING GOOD IS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN FOR US

He loved Ernie Sims too
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: DH on March 20, 2012, 08:23:09 PM
This is fan-farging-tastic
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 20, 2012, 08:24:21 PM
i love anyone who has high athletic measureables....you guys can have your casey matthews

and yes i was on demeco ryans from jump

http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=17772.msg377043#msg377043
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2012, 08:28:04 PM
That thread is gold.

MURP called the Tapp acquisition a few years early in that too.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Feva on March 20, 2012, 08:45:16 PM
Brian Rolle gonna have to come up off that #59 butta joint...
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2012, 08:46:37 PM
And I am going to buy one.

And wear it to landmarks and take photos holding a sign "FOR YOU ROME"
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 20, 2012, 08:51:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2012, 08:46:37 PM
And I am going to buy one.

And wear it to landmarks and take photos holding a sign "FOR YOU ROME"

Try the Sistine Chapel or the Pantheon.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Feva on March 20, 2012, 08:52:25 PM
Quote
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2006, 02:17:06 PM »

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I dunno.  All have shown that there's chinks in the armor lately... tough call.  The only ones that I wouldn't want to go for in the 1st is Holmes and the TE's.

Better not let anyone at work see this... :paranoid
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2012, 08:56:28 PM
Quote from: Feva on March 20, 2012, 08:52:25 PM
Quote
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2006, 02:17:06 PM »

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I dunno.  All have shown that there's chinks in the armor lately... tough call.  The only ones that I wouldn't want to go for in the 1st is Holmes and the TE's.

Better not let anyone at work see this... :paranoid

30 day suspension, sir!
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2012, 08:57:01 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 20, 2012, 08:51:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2012, 08:46:37 PM
And I am going to buy one.

And wear it to landmarks and take photos holding a sign "FOR YOU ROME"

Try the Sistine Chapel or the Pantheon.

And The Vatican
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 20, 2012, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: Feva on March 20, 2012, 08:52:25 PM
Quote
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2006, 02:17:06 PM »

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I dunno.  All have shown that there's chinks in the armor lately... tough call.  The only ones that I wouldn't want to go for in the 1st is Holmes and the TE's.

Better not let anyone at work see this... :paranoid

HAHA!

This move is awesome.  I love it more than I would have loved LenDale White as an Eagle.

Ahem.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: DH on March 20, 2012, 09:37:41 PM
How do you people find threads like that??
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 20, 2012, 09:42:35 PM
IGY has them bookmarked.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 20, 2012, 10:21:35 PM
I don't know what the farg you idiots are talking about.  Some kind of racist humor?  Don't you know chinks prefer to be called orientals? Ha ha ha.

I think the Internet is getting away from me lately.  There are all kinds of things I don't understand.

Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Feva on March 20, 2012, 10:30:57 PM
Texans players are heated about Ryans (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/03/texans-trade-demeco-ryans-players-aren%E2%80%99t-happy/)

QuoteThis one stings.

Players liked Eric Winston. I even half-joked that releasing Matt Schaub would not have been a more popular move in the locker room than the release of Winston last week.

But trading DeMeco Ryans to the Philadelphia Eagles was a body blow to Texans players that will take some time to absorb.

Football-wise there is a significant drop-off from Ryans to Darryl Sharpton. Significant. Leadership-wise, Ryans' contribution can't be overstated. Brian Cushing may have been the team's top defensive player, but he doesn't bring to the defense what Ryans did. Not yet.

Here are a few text messages from current or former players:

"WTF!! You know what they are up to?"

"Damn, man, and they talk about loyalty."

"Cold-blooded, man, cold-blooded. But Meco will be better off for it. He's going to dominate in Philly."

"They don't what leadership means, do they? Bet they won't finish No. 2 in defense next season."

"It's an ugly business. We're not the same team without him. Gonna take a lot to replace Meco."


Players went onto Twitter with public comments as well.

Owen Daniels: "Seriously? Meco too?"

Brian Cushing: "I wouldn't be half the player or person I am today without @DRyans59 this one hurts. Philly got a unbelievable player and leader today. #59″

Glover Quin: "Honored to have had the chance to play with and learn from @DRyans59.. True leader and great person... Preciate you bro."

Eric Winston (to Owen Daniels): "Watch you(r) back kid. @owendaniels you're the last '06 guy left."


The Texans don't typically release statements on players they cut or trade. Obviously this is one of the exceptions.

Texans general manager Rick Smith's statement on Ryans:

"DeMeco Ryans contributed significantly toward helping us build the foundation we hope will bring a world championship to the city of Houston. His professionalism and leadership cannot be over-exaggerated. This move was mutually beneficial for the Texans immediate and long-term goals, DeMeco's career, and the Philadelphia Eagles. We appreciate all the hard work and effort DeMeco invested in our organization and wish him only the best moving forward. He is a class act."
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 20, 2012, 10:35:18 PM
Hard not to get a bit excited when I read that.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 21, 2012, 01:28:57 AM
im excited, but its reserved excitement

then again considering the slop weve seen at LB since trot in 04 im pretty sure demeco is going to look like mike singletary circa 1985
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 21, 2012, 07:18:31 AM
Quote from: MDS on March 21, 2012, 01:28:57 AM
im excited, but its reserved excitement

yeah its a shame they had to get him after an achilles injury...hes not even close to what he was five six years ago but hes a big time upgrade and thats the key right now

maybe the most important thing about him is that hes one of the hardest working players in the nfl...this is key because hes gonna have to do a lot playbook and film study going from 3-4 to the wide nine...granted hes played in a 4-3 before so it not like a foregin language to him but its still different than anything hes played in....mini camps will be important for him
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 21, 2012, 07:32:25 AM
meco a dawg

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d827bd90e/Texans-talk-DeMeco-Ryans-trade
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on March 21, 2012, 08:23:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 20, 2012, 08:24:21 PM
i love anyone who has high athletic measureables....you guys can have your casey matthews

and yes i was on demeco ryans from jump

http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=17772.msg377043#msg377043

ha, i remember how much Mad-Lad loved him some Chad Greenway
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BobbyT on March 21, 2012, 09:22:14 AM
Hopefully Ryans leadership will have an impact -desperately missing last year.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 21, 2012, 11:43:26 AM
My only question is this:

When he enters Canton does he go in as a Texan or Eagle?
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on March 21, 2012, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2012, 07:18:31 AM
Quote from: MDS on March 21, 2012, 01:28:57 AM
im excited, but its reserved excitement

yeah its a shame they had to get him after an achilles injury...hes not even close to what he was five six years ago but hes a big time upgrade and thats the key right now

maybe the most important thing about him is that hes one of the hardest working players in the nfl...this is key because hes gonna have to do a lot playbook and film study going from 3-4 to the wide nine...granted hes played in a 4-3 before so it not like a foregin language to him but its still different than anything hes played in....mini camps will be important for him

I think it is a little premature to say he is or isn't the same player. He is still fairly young, hopefully it works out the same for the Eagles as it did for the Saints with Vilma.

And I think we could all agree Ryans is a better player than Vilma.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on March 21, 2012, 11:51:59 AM
Quote from: Rome on March 21, 2012, 11:43:26 AM
My only question is this:

When he enters Canton does he go in as a Texan or Eagle?

taterskin.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 21, 2012, 11:59:52 AM
Quote from: Rome on March 21, 2012, 11:43:26 AM
My only question is this:

When he enters Canton does he go in as a Texan or Eagle?

Paying customer.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 21, 2012, 12:28:52 PM
juany picked up meco (im gonna call him that now, were buddies) at the airport last night

2 hard working guys. fight! work! effort! 19 hour days!
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 21, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 21, 2012, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2012, 07:18:31 AM
Quote from: MDS on March 21, 2012, 01:28:57 AM
im excited, but its reserved excitement

yeah its a shame they had to get him after an achilles injury...hes not even close to what he was five six years ago but hes a big time upgrade and thats the key right now

maybe the most important thing about him is that hes one of the hardest working players in the nfl...this is key because hes gonna have to do a lot playbook and film study going from 3-4 to the wide nine...granted hes played in a 4-3 before so it not like a foregin language to him but its still different than anything hes played in....mini camps will be important for him

I think it is a little premature to say he is or isn't the same player. He is still fairly young, hopefully it works out the same for the Eagles as it did for the Saints with Vilma.

And I think we could all agree Ryans is a better player than Vilma.

right now he definitely isnt the same player...thats not in dispute

i think you mean its premature to say that he will never be that same player...which i also happen to agree with but i also dont discount completely

when vilma was on the jets i think he was a better player than demeco...he was more dynamic...but it was close....however pre achilles demeco was better than saints vilma
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on March 21, 2012, 01:43:28 PM
Yes exactly I think last year coming back from an injury and playing in a new system is too small of a sample size to judge. 

We will have to disagree on Vilma he only had three years in NY before they switched systems. 
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 21, 2012, 02:07:41 PM
vilma was much more athletic...he was a sick cat when he was young...demeco is more of a downhill fill the hole make every tackle guy

in all their primes this is the comparisons id make...

demeco was a much better trotter

vilma was a not as good ray lewis
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on March 21, 2012, 03:41:29 PM
 :-D okay that works.

Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 22, 2012, 08:18:37 AM
im gonna try and get a "demeco" version of this made....then give it to the eagles to rock the stadium everytime he makes a play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-QL4g55mMI
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on March 22, 2012, 11:35:51 AM
 :-D living in Lancaster if I never here that song again I will be good with that.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 24, 2016, 03:18:35 PM
Released
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 24, 2016, 03:58:47 PM
There's another $3.5 mil they can spend on I don't know what, I guess.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on February 25, 2016, 12:27:54 PM
Cox   :o :paranoid
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on February 25, 2016, 01:12:54 PM
Did the cap increase already happen ?
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on February 25, 2016, 01:58:44 PM
I think the cap increase with the new league year 3/9 when free agency begins. It's not really all that much though, I think around 10 - 12M which for example wouldn't cover re-signing Bradford.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on February 25, 2016, 03:06:15 PM
They are $30mil under. ... just wasnt sure if that figure included the increase already.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 25, 2016, 03:42:45 PM
Either way, they're sitting in the middle of the pack for cap space this year. Hell, the Jags are sitting at $74 mil in free space right now. Everyone's getting paid this year.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on February 25, 2016, 03:48:39 PM
S*** 74 million is more than the team is worth. You gotta start going to some of them games  GF so they can afford to get some decent free agents.

Even though the cap is going up for the Eagles that doesn't mean that much because it's going up for all the other teams equally so it won't help them competing for free agents.



Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 25, 2016, 03:58:45 PM
Well it does mean something, because if the cap wasn't going up, the number of teams that could afford to bid on Bradford would be smaller and might exclude the Eagles. It's not like his asking price is going up $20 million because the cap went up that much.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on February 25, 2016, 05:02:56 PM
Yes, obviously it does mean something, and teams can usually create more cap room it they want for a more expensive player. There's a few million extra to pick up a guy or two to start or round out the team and several other cases that it can help, but my point was that just because the cap is going up it doesn't necessarily mean it will be easier to afford FAs because in general the other bidders will be getting the same extra cash to work with, and this point seems lost on some people.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 25, 2016, 05:14:16 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on February 25, 2016, 03:58:45 PM
Well it does mean something, because if the cap wasn't going up, the number of teams that could afford to bid on Bradford would be smaller and might exclude the Eagles. It's not like his asking price is going up $20 million because the cap went up that much.

The number of teams that can bid on him will jump from 23 to 31.
Title: Re: Demeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 25, 2016, 05:33:57 PM
the cap is irrelevant when it comes to bradford...either the eagles like him and think hes their future and hes going nowhere or they don't and they let him walk