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Title: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Diomedes on November 06, 2011, 01:04:44 PM
Some interesting games this week. 

Bills v. Jets, Patriots vs. Giants, Packers vs. Chargers and Ravens vs. Steelers are all worth a look. 

It goes without saying, but F Dallas.  Wouldn't it be great if the Seahawks somehow extend their embarrassment from last week?  Niners should put Washington away without too much trouble and I'd be surprised if the Giants beat New England.

Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2011, 01:43:49 PM
Akers 52yd FG

now 4/4 on 50+ FGs this year
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Post by: Sgt PSN on November 06, 2011, 01:54:06 PM
Miami off to a quick start again this week. 14-3 in KC
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2011, 01:58:58 PM
Mark Sanchez stinks.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2011, 02:19:06 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2011, 01:58:58 PM
Mark Sanchez stinks.

x2

This game is like a farging shtein show.

Jets get a pick on a great play by Harris and then Sanchez fumbles the snap.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 06, 2011, 02:30:05 PM
Anyone see the play where Dez Bryant got rocked trying to go into the endzone?  Dallas has 300+ yds at the half and is tied with Seattle 6-6.  lolz. 
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2011, 02:31:29 PM
Yeah he took a shot - he didnt see the guy and he put a lick on him.

Great stuff
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: SD on November 06, 2011, 02:35:23 PM
Who's worse right now Dallas or the Skins? It's close.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Rome on November 06, 2011, 02:50:57 PM
This Bills Jets game is worse than death right now.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 06, 2011, 03:12:58 PM
So Austin hurt his hamstring again.  farg Dallas
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: BigEd76 on November 06, 2011, 04:36:41 PM
that whole group of 1:00 games sucked

wtf Chiefs....31-3 at home to the winless Dolphins?

Niners are 7-1, w/ four of the wins coming in the Eastern timezone (Philly, Washington, Detroit, Cincinnati)
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 05:09:42 PM
eli is somehow going to pull this game out and ruin my evening....i just know it
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 05:33:32 PM
you farging bum
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 06:13:22 PM
told you

farg you new england you overrated pompous mother farging frauds
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 06:33:44 PM
wow that might have been a game saving awful throw by eli

new england plain doesnt have any playmakers at the wr position...i dont care how good brady is the fact that bellichek is so full of himself that he thinks the system can overcome their lack of talent is annoying

danny woodhead was a healthy inactive for a couple games this year and tonight hes been the focus of their offense

welker coming alive now
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: SD on November 06, 2011, 06:38:55 PM
Even if the Pats pull this out I have to credit the Giants, they're banged up and playing in NE. The Pats are overfargingrated and what I used to consider an automatic L for the Birds I'm now thinking it's a pick em.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 06:42:46 PM
if the OL coach wasnt the DC i would feel confident about that game....but i can see juanny getting incredibly exposed

that said i can also see the birds offense going to work

should be a an exciting shootout type of game where the qb who makes the least mistakes and maybe has the ball last wins

i cant wait for it
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 07:04:29 PM
come on brady work your magic
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: shorebird on November 06, 2011, 07:06:53 PM
Another Eli td, this is a hell of a football game.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 07:07:44 PM
wow thats a weak call
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
here comes our pats aided by the pussification of america
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2011, 07:13:02 PM
SD/GB game is getting awesome
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2011, 07:16:45 PM
farging Gronkowski should have had caught both of those
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 07:18:12 PM
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Rome on November 06, 2011, 07:18:35 PM
farg THE GIANTS!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!

!
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2011, 07:19:24 PM
sweet  :yay
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Rome on November 06, 2011, 07:22:31 PM
Cheering for the Patriots twice in one decade is more than enough for me.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2011, 07:25:56 PM
Great defense, NE.

NY is gonna hit a FG to force OT
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2011, 07:26:42 PM
oh my god

more like NY is going to win the game because of that penalty
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 07:27:28 PM
this is sickening

the eagles playoff chances just vanished
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2011, 07:29:18 PM
farging shteinbag bums

farg you new england
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Rome on November 06, 2011, 07:29:44 PM
farging ridiculous.  The Patriots defense is beyond horrendous.  They're embarrassingly awful.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 06, 2011, 07:29:45 PM
farging Eli
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 07:30:48 PM
new england is going to miss the playoffs as well
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Munson on November 06, 2011, 07:34:24 PM
Arizona just won on a 99 yard punt return in OT
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2011, 07:35:25 PM
Wow @ Patrick Peterson going to the house to end it in OT
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: MDS on November 06, 2011, 07:37:17 PM
i still have hope eli will be eli but that was...good god
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: BigEd76 on November 06, 2011, 08:01:19 PM
The AFC is nuts.  3-way ties in the East and West, the Bengals are 6-2 and leading the North, and the Texans are 6-3 and leading the South
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 08:33:05 PM
IGY is in rare form this week.  First he states that the Patriots don't have any game changing wide receivers... then he says that the Eagles playoff chances all over with that Giants win...

Pretty sure Wes Welker is on the Patriots...

Also pretty sure that the Giants almost lost to the Dolphins last week and will be only be two up on the Eagles if WE take care of business tomorrow.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 08:33:55 PM
And please stop overrating the Giants.. the Patriots defense is tragic.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 08:38:34 PM
eagles will not catch the giants now and have no chance at the wild card...thus playoffs are out of reach

and lol at wes welker being a game changer...hes an awesome slot receiver but theres a reason new englands offense hasnt been the same since randy moss could still play
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: SD on November 06, 2011, 08:42:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 08:38:34 PM
eagles will not catch the giants now and have no chance at the wild card...thus playoffs are out of reach

and lol at wes welker being a game changer...hes an awesome slot receiver but theres a reason new englands offense hasnt been the same since randy moss could still play

Giants next 5 are:
At SF
Eagles
At NO
GB
At Cowboys

Eagles are:
Bears
Zona
Giants
NE
Seattle

The Eagles/Giants game is huge
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 08:45:58 PM
giants are two up and maybe three after tomorrow nite...eagles arent good enough to make u that kind of deficit....tonight was the game that was going to start the giants on a bender...instead they had a great win and now are on their way
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: SD on November 06, 2011, 08:48:37 PM
The Eagles win tomorrow night and they're two back. The Giants aren't going 3-1 in their next 4, I think 2-2 is more like it. If the Eagles can beat them they're right there with them.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 08:54:10 PM
i would say the giants and eagles are probably equally as good as each other....maybe the giants slightly better...the problem is the eagles arent leading the division right now...so they have to be at minimum two games better the rest of the year and probably three if you figure the eagles will lose one of either the bears or giant games

meaning they wont come back from their current deficit
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: MDS on November 06, 2011, 08:55:48 PM
i refuse to believe the giants are 13-3 or 12-4 good

if it happens, it happens. but ive watched this team for the past 10 years and they are still the giants.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Munson on November 06, 2011, 08:57:40 PM
lol at IGY claiming season over.

Jesus christ dude
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 08:58:26 PM
At one point he was on pace to snap the single season catches and total yardage records.. but I guess he isn't a game changer... 99 yard touchdowns also aren't game changers....

If the Eagles beat the Giants, that will split the season series....  so I'm kind of confused how they would be running away with the divison. 

Eagles are also money in the second half of the season, while the Giants are known for their monumental chokejobs.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
the giants arent that good but guess what either are the eagles

and the eagles are two and maybe three games behind the giants...i just dont see this team being good enough to go 7-2 the rest of the season
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: MDS on November 06, 2011, 09:02:12 PM
if you dont think they are good enough to go 7-2 then its over anyway and getting into the playoffs at 9-7 is a backhanded compliment

you have to convince yourself they can run the table or finish 11-5 or something. with that, this giant win isnt crippling.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 09:08:23 PM
they cant get into the playoffs at 9-7 period

division is the only way to get in and its gonna take at least 10 wins for that and i dont see how they take over the giants after today

lol @ running the table
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: MDS on November 06, 2011, 09:14:12 PM
im not counting on the WC for anything but theres a chance that they are 10-6 just like atl and chicago....which, assuming the eagles beat the bears, takes out the loss to the falcons. maybe they can win that 3-team tiebreaker

believe me im not high on this team, theres a legit chance the season ends tomorrow. but you have to be the only one who ended the season after this game
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 09:16:43 PM
So if the Eagles win the next two and the Giants lose next week @ San Francisco, the Eagles/Giants game will be for first place....

I'm confused how this Giants win means season over for the Eagles. 
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: General_Failure on November 06, 2011, 09:21:39 PM
Hint: Andy Reid still coaches the Eagles.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 09:30:20 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 06, 2011, 09:21:39 PM
Hint: Andy Reid still coaches the Eagles.

And he's notoriously good in the second half of the season.

Coughlin is notoriously bad.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 09:36:07 PM
Quote from: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 09:16:43 PM
So if the Eagles win the next two and the Giants lose next week...

and if the eagles win the next eight and the giants lose the next eight then yes ill conceed they probably win the division

Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 09:44:00 PM
Except the eagles are favored in the next two while the giants will be dogs.   Good logic though.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
giants were +9.5 today

good logic thinking they cant win as a dog tho
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 09:57:58 PM
Is sound logic.   The pats d is awful.    Also how the wild card out of the picture.  Seems like it will come down to eagles falcons and bucs. 
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 09:58:50 PM
Also wes welker isn't a game changer.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 10:02:02 PM
its sound logic only if your original point wasnt that the giants are dogs in some upcoming games

AND they didnt just win OUTRIGHT as almost a double digit dog TODAY

you are a straight dope talking out your ass....proceed on please as i have no time for ignorance
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 09:58:50 PM
Also wes welker isn't a game changer.

patriots have not won a playoff game since randy moss left....so im not sure what games wes welker is changing...im sure all those five yard catches are turning the league on its ear tho
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: SD on November 06, 2011, 10:14:56 PM
The Giants could easily lose to the 7-1 Niners in SF next week and the Eagles should beat the Bears and Zona the next two weeks meaning first place could be on the line in 2 weeks. After that game the Giants have to play New Orleans and GB. Obviously the Eagles have to hold their end of the deal up to make this all possible but the above scenario is very likely.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 10:20:02 PM
im sure it is but the eagles could easily lose to the bears tomorrow and at the meadowlands

i think we are all in agreement that both the eagles and giants can lose to or beat anyone....but when one of those two teams is two or three games ahead of the other then thats the one thats gonna win the division
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 10:02:02 PM
its sound logic only if your original point wasnt that the giants are dogs in some upcoming games

AND they didnt just win OUTRIGHT as almost a double digit dog TODAY

you are a straight dope talking out your ass....proceed on please as i have no time for ignorance

Ignorance... you mean like your claim that the season is over in week 9??

Wes Welker isn't a game changer and you use their playoff record as indication????  Hilarious.. Your statements are so ludicrous I don't even know why I bother responding.  Look at Welker's numbers and tell me he isn't a game changer. 

Also, wasn't last year the Patriots first year without Randy Moss???  Also, did the Patriots win any Super Bowls with Randy Moss??? Nope.  Good try though... Wes Welker sucks.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: SD on November 06, 2011, 10:24:36 PM
If the Giants make it to the Dallas game and are still in first place then they deserve a shtein ton of credit because they have one hell of a gauntlet to maneuver.

And I'm not taking the Bears lightly. Don't think they're anything special but they're EXACTLY the kind of team the Eagles struggle with. Plus I know games 20 years ago don't mean shtein but their all time record against the Bears is like 10-30 or something close.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 10:24:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 10:20:02 PM
im sure it is but the eagles could easily lose to the bears tomorrow and at the meadowlands

i think we are all in agreement that both the eagles and giants can lose to or beat anyone....but when one of those two teams is two or three games ahead of the other then thats the one thats gonna win the division

If it's week 16 you'd be right.  Since it week 9, you sound like a douchebag.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 10:32:36 PM
Quote from: SD on November 06, 2011, 10:24:36 PM
If the Giants make it to the Dallas game and are still in first place then they deserve a shtein ton of credit because they have one hell of a gauntlet to maneuver.

And I'm not taking the Bears lightly. Don't think they're anything special but they're EXACTLY the kind of team the Eagles struggle with. Plus I know games 20 years ago don't mean shtein but their all time record against the Bears is like 10-30 or something close.

totally agreed on past records....i could care less...and also agree this years bears arent special in the least but either are the eagles....last time i looked the eagles were under .500....you listen to teenage morons like hawk and youd think they are 6-1 and wont lose the rest of the year
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 10:32:36 PM
Quote from: SD on November 06, 2011, 10:24:36 PM
If the Giants make it to the Dallas game and are still in first place then they deserve a shtein ton of credit because they have one hell of a gauntlet to maneuver.

And I'm not taking the Bears lightly. Don't think they're anything special but they're EXACTLY the kind of team the Eagles struggle with. Plus I know games 20 years ago don't mean shtein but their all time record against the Bears is like 10-30 or something close.

totally agreed on past records....i could care less...and also agree this years bears arent special in the least but either are the eagles....last time i looked the eagles were under .500....you listen to teenage morons like hawk and youd think they are 6-1 and wont lose the rest of the year

You acting like the Giants are running away with the division when they beat the overrated Patriots is much more moronic than anything I've ever posted. 

Good rebuttal to my Wes Welker commentary though... Players that break records and score 99 yard touchdowns aren't game changers... he's just a quick white guy in the slot!
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 10:44:34 PM
lol...bernard berrian had a 99 yard touchdown....im sure he was a game changer to

Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 10:52:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 10:44:34 PM
lol...bernard berrian had a 99 yard touchdown....im sure he was a game changer to

Bernard Berrian doesn't catch 8 balls a game and average 117 yards receiving??? How many Super Bowls did Randy Moss help the Pats win???
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 10:54:37 PM
With the new rules against hitting a defenseless receiver and the heavy fines the NFL has been levying, Welker is definitely a game changer.  But in IGY's world, he's white so he must suck.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 11:03:05 PM
you would be much happier on the other CF
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: SD on November 06, 2011, 11:05:41 PM
Welker is very good at what he does which is move the chains and make a lot of catches, he doesn't change the dynamic of a defense. You have to game plan for big WRs because they can burn you at any time. Welker's talent is finding a hole in a zone and picking up some yards, defensive coordinators aren't staying up at night trying to figure out how they're going to stop him. They're not rolling coverage his way or leaving a safety over the top because of his big play ability.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 11:10:58 PM
Quote from: SD on November 06, 2011, 11:05:41 PM
Welker is very good at what he does which is move the chains and make a lot of catches, he doesn't change the dynamic of a defense. You have to game plan for big WRs because they can burn you at any time. Welker's talent is finding a hole in a zone and picking up some yards, defensive coordinators aren't staying up at night trying to figure out how they're going to stop him. They're not rolling coverage his way or leaving a safety over the top because of his big play ability.

I disagree.  The teams that have suceeded against the Patriots are the ones who have pressed the receivers, ala Pittsburg last week and the Jets in the playoffs.   You can't just plug any receiver in the slot and expect him to replicate Welker's numbers.  Last year when Welker went down, people thought that Edelman would just take his place.  Not the case. 
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 11:03:05 PM
you would be much happier on the other CF

You'd be much happier if the taterskins won the division.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 11:11:36 PM
Quote from: SD on November 06, 2011, 11:05:41 PM
Welker is very good at what he does which is move the chains and make a lot of catches, he doesn't change the dynamic of a defense. You have to game plan for big WRs because they can burn you at any time. Welker's talent is finding a hole in a zone and picking up some yards, defensive coordinators aren't staying up at night trying to figure out how they're going to stop him. They're not rolling coverage his way or leaving a safety over the top because of his big play ability.

couldnt have said it better...hes the best at what he does nd is absolutely great at it but what he does doesnt change games...i almost feel guilty saying anything negative about him because i think hes great but at the same time dummies overrate his impact on games and sometimes it must be refuted
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: SD on November 06, 2011, 11:16:18 PM
Quote from: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 11:10:58 PM
Quote from: SD on November 06, 2011, 11:05:41 PM
Welker is very good at what he does which is move the chains and make a lot of catches, he doesn't change the dynamic of a defense. You have to game plan for big WRs because they can burn you at any time. Welker's talent is finding a hole in a zone and picking up some yards, defensive coordinators aren't staying up at night trying to figure out how they're going to stop him. They're not rolling coverage his way or leaving a safety over the top because of his big play ability.

I disagree.  The teams that have suceeded against the Patriots are the ones who have pressed the receivers, ala Pittsburg last week and the Jets in the playoffs.   You can't just plug any receiver in the slot and expect him to replicate Welker's numbers.  Last year when Welker went down, people thought that Edelman would just take his place.  Not the case.

You're missing the point, I'm not saying Welker isn't a good slot receiver or good at what he does. He doesn't change the dynamic of what defenses do. Do you know why Avant is open so much on 3rd down? Because teams are worried about Desean/Maclin. Both those players (especially Desean) can turn a 10 yard pattern into a TD or outrun a secondary. Teams HAVE to game plan around that. Teams don't game plan around guys who work the middle of the field and aren't a threat to stretch a defense.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 11:16:31 PM
Quote from: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 11:03:05 PM
you would be much happier on the other CF

You'd be much happier if the taterskins won the division.

this might have been cute ten years ago before beermonkey gave me a taterskin teddy bear that said "havas loves me" on it

but now you just sound young and dumb
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 11:16:31 PM
Quote from: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 11:03:05 PM
you would be much happier on the other CF

You'd be much happier if the taterskins won the division.

this might have been cute ten years ago before beermonkey gave me a taterskin teddy bear that said "havas loves me" on it

but now you just sound young and dumb

Just a commentary on your annoying Negladephian schtick.  Just like when you posted that game 1 of the divisional series was over in the 5th inning when the Phils 6, 7,and 8 batters were due up.  Just like now when you are posting the Eagles season is over in week 9.  A win tomorrow puts them 2 back in the division and one back in the wild card.  The wild card will come down to 3 teams... two of which are in the NFC south.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 11:20:51 PM
Quote from: SD on November 06, 2011, 11:16:18 PM
You're missing the point, I'm not saying Welker isn't a good slot receiver or good at what he does. He doesn't change the dynamic of what defenses do. Do you know why Avant is open so much on 3rd down? Because teams are worried about Desean/Maclin. Both those players (especially Desean) can turn a 10 yard pattern into a TD or outrun a secondary. Teams HAVE to game plan around that. Teams don't game plan around guys who work the middle of the field and aren't a threat to stretch a defense.

its almost a passing version of how teams dont care about rushing yards that much anymore

in the nfl today teams arent scared to give up double digit play drives largely driven by the run...just as theyd rather give up 12 catches for 98 yards to wes welker than 5 catches for 110 and two td's to randy moss

thats the patriots big problem these days...they have no vertical attack....when your tight end or in their case tight endS are your big threat then you have a problem
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2011, 11:37:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 11:20:51 PM
Quote from: SD on November 06, 2011, 11:16:18 PM
You're missing the point, I'm not saying Welker isn't a good slot receiver or good at what he does. He doesn't change the dynamic of what defenses do. Do you know why Avant is open so much on 3rd down? Because teams are worried about Desean/Maclin. Both those players (especially Desean) can turn a 10 yard pattern into a TD or outrun a secondary. Teams HAVE to game plan around that. Teams don't game plan around guys who work the middle of the field and aren't a threat to stretch a defense.

its almost a passing version of how teams dont care about rushing yards that much anymore

in the nfl today teams arent scared to give up double digit play drives largely driven by the run...just as theyd rather give up 12 catches for 98 yards to wes welker than 5 catches for 110 and two td's to randy moss

thats the patriots big problem these days...they have no vertical attack....when your tight end or in their case tight endS are your big threat then you have a problem

Yes... it's a matter of teams not caring, rather than the fact that the rules have been adjusted to encourage more passes over the middle. 
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: BigEd76 on November 06, 2011, 11:48:28 PM
Flacco with a 92-yd drive in the final seconds to beat the Steelers 23-20
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: MDS on November 06, 2011, 11:56:53 PM
WE ALL WATCHED THE fargING GAME EASY

jesus christ
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 11:58:15 PM
lol...he is amazing isnt he
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: BigEd76 on November 07, 2011, 12:26:52 AM
I'm guessing there were only 5 people here that watched more than 5 minutes of that game.  If you guys did, good job
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: MDS on November 07, 2011, 01:01:16 AM
even if not we dont need you to....i mean i love you
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: General_Failure on November 07, 2011, 01:06:47 AM
Well, I had errands to attend to, so I appreciate the update. Now I can look forward to seeing it in highlights.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 07, 2011, 05:55:52 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
giants were +9.5 today

good logic thinking they cant win as a dog tho

The Giants are better on the road as big dogs than at home as big favorites. You think it's a trend they can maintain?
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: shorebird on November 07, 2011, 06:10:54 AM
I watched the whole Ravens/Steelers game, it was the best game of this week. Flacco has played his best vs the Steelers.

Watched the Packers game also. Chargers hung in there for a while, but there is no better qb then Rodgers and no better team than the Packers. Everyone is talking about Rodgers when he rolls out how amazing his accuracy is on the run. He will beat you any way possible. His accuracy is uncanny, I want to say like Montana, but his arm is much stronger and he gets the ball in very tight places that other qb's have no business even trying to get it in.

As for the Giants, we've seen them win big games like this before, although I don't know how big a win it really is as bad as the Pat's D is. I don't want to rush to judgment about them anymore than I want to about the Eagles as good as they looked last Sunday. It will be interesting to see it play out.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Rome on November 07, 2011, 07:45:09 AM
Good thing the Giants never collapse down the stretch.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: rjs246 on November 07, 2011, 08:50:19 AM
Or sneak into the playoffs and win superbowls.


That win yesterday was a huge blow to the Eagles chances. Suggesting that it wasn't is pretty naive and optimistic.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 07, 2011, 08:53:39 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 07, 2011, 05:55:52 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
giants were +9.5 today

good logic thinking they cant win as a dog tho

The Giants are better on the road as big dogs than at home as big favorites. You think it's a trend they can maintain?

no idea...i just dont think the eagles are two or three games better than the giants over a half of a season...as i said im not overly impressed with the giants but im not impressed with an under.500 eagles team either so ill take the team who has a gigantic advantage in the standings and has already dominated the other head to head on the road

Quote from: Rome on November 07, 2011, 07:45:09 AM
Good thing the Giants never collapse down the stretch.

good thing they win superbowls too or theyd be in real trouble
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Rome on November 07, 2011, 11:38:24 AM
You've been forecasting doom since training camp so why all of a sudden you're suggesting it's over now isn't exactly surprising.

And basically this exact Giants team collapsed last year.  But you're right.  No chance for the Eagles from here on out.  Just give em the trophy now.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: shorebird on November 07, 2011, 01:04:09 PM
No fan can realistically give up on the Eagles the way they played against what was supposedly the best run D in the NFC last week. Igy is just posting that stuff to get you all's goat.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 07, 2011, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 07, 2011, 01:04:09 PM
No fan can realistically give up on the Eagles the way they played against what was supposedly the best run D in the NFC last week. Igy is just posting that stuff to get you all's goat.

It's the gayest schtick on this board.  Basically, if the Eagles/Phillies/Flyers lose, he gets to post, " I told you so."  If they win, he gets to enjoy it as a Philadelphia fan.  Basically win/win.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: hbionic on November 07, 2011, 02:35:29 PM
Philly sports fans are the best ever and have the cure for AIDS built into their blood. That's how awesome they are.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 07, 2011, 03:48:02 PM
Quote from: Hawk on November 07, 2011, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 07, 2011, 01:04:09 PM
No fan can realistically give up on the Eagles the way they played against what was supposedly the best run D in the NFC last week. Igy is just posting that stuff to get you all's goat.

It's the gayest schtick on this board.  Basically, if the Eagles/Phillies/Flyers lose, he gets to post, " I told you so."  If they win, he gets to enjoy it as a Philadelphia fan.  Basically win/win.

Welcome to 6 years ago.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Munson on November 07, 2011, 05:47:19 PM
 :-D
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 08, 2011, 10:46:40 AM
Quote from: Hawk on November 07, 2011, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 07, 2011, 01:04:09 PM
No fan can realistically give up on the Eagles the way they played against what was supposedly the best run D in the NFC last week. Igy is just posting that stuff to get you all's goat.

It's the gayest schtick on this board.  Basically, if the Eagles/Phillies/Flyers lose, he gets to post, " I told you so."  If they win, he gets to enjoy it as a Philadelphia fan.  Basically win/win.

told you so dope

but im sure you will still hang on to a giants collapse and an eagles division win

this is why you cant discuss sports with homers and why i despise them more than anything

oh and if i picked the eagles to lose every week id be doing a whole lot better in the pick em contest....its actually a fact ive picked them to win more games this year than lose...holla at ya boy
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 08, 2011, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 07, 2011, 01:04:09 PM
No fan can realistically give up on the Eagles the way they played against what was supposedly the best run D in the NFC last week.

you sure about this?
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Munson on November 08, 2011, 10:48:15 AM
Giving up on the Eagles after last night's performance is acceptable

You didn't, you were calling season over because of the Giants game...which it wasn't
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: hbionic on November 08, 2011, 01:40:32 PM
I gave up all hope for the Eagles long ago...that way, when they win it, it will be a total shock, and I'll die in a murder suicide because it would be the end of the world.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 08, 2011, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2011, 10:46:40 AM
Quote from: Hawk on November 07, 2011, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 07, 2011, 01:04:09 PM
No fan can realistically give up on the Eagles the way they played against what was supposedly the best run D in the NFC last week. Igy is just posting that stuff to get you all's goat.

It's the gayest schtick on this board.  Basically, if the Eagles/Phillies/Flyers lose, he gets to post, " I told you so."  If they win, he gets to enjoy it as a Philadelphia fan.  Basically win/win.

told you so dope

but im sure you will still hang on to a giants collapse and an eagles division win

this is why you cant discuss sports with homers and why i despise them more than anything

oh and if i picked the eagles to lose every week id be doing a whole lot better in the pick em contest....its actually a fact ive picked them to win more games this year than lose...holla at ya boy

You were basing your opinion on the Giants beating the Patriots... I was basing my opinion on how the Eagles handled the Cowboys.. whose opinion made less sense?
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 08, 2011, 03:42:25 PM
no i was basing mine on that eagles suck...you were basing it on the fact that they had turned around their whole season and that the first 5 games basically didnt happen and they were ready to go on a superbowl run


Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2011, 08:53:39 AM
i just dont think the eagles are two or three games better than the giants over a half of a season...as i said im not overly impressed with the giants but im not impressed with an under.500 eagles team either so ill take the team who has a gigantic advantage in the standings and has already dominated the other head to head on the road

Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 08, 2011, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2011, 03:42:25 PM
no i was basing mine on that eagles suck...you were basing it on the fact that they had turned around their whole season and that the first 5 games basically didnt happen and they were ready to go on a superbowl run


Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2011, 08:53:39 AM
i just dont think the eagles are two or three games better than the giants over a half of a season...as i said im not overly impressed with the giants but im not impressed with an under.500 eagles team either so ill take the team who has a gigantic advantage in the standings and has already dominated the other head to head on the road

Well, I was looking at the first seven games and thinking that the Eagles should be about 5-2 if it wasn't for stupid farging brain farts against Atlanta and San Francisco.  Now I'm thinking they whole team needs to be Sanduskyed
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 08, 2011, 06:16:53 PM
Quote from: Hawk on November 08, 2011, 04:18:30 PM
Well, I was looking at the first seven games and thinking that the Eagles should be about 5-2 if it wasn't for stupid farging brain farts against Atlanta and San Francisco.  Now I'm thinking they whole team needs to be Sanduskyed

2 problems here. 

The first one is that you can't play the "they should be this if it weren't for that" card.  If if if if if!  If my sister had a fleshpop, she'd be my brother.  They have a bad record because they are a bad team.  They are poorly coached and they execute poorly at even the most fundamental levels.  Was and Dallas were fools gold.  Denny Green said it best: "They are who we thought they were."   

The 2nd problem is that you suck at hypotheticals.  Since you're playing the "what if game" then you should go ALL IN and say they should have been 6-1 and throw the Giants game in there too.  Buffalo is the only team they trailed from soup to nuts so far this year.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: Hawk on November 08, 2011, 06:55:55 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 08, 2011, 06:16:53 PM
Quote from: Hawk on November 08, 2011, 04:18:30 PM
Well, I was looking at the first seven games and thinking that the Eagles should be about 5-2 if it wasn't for stupid farging brain farts against Atlanta and San Francisco.  Now I'm thinking they whole team needs to be Sanduskyed

2 problems here. 

The first one is that you can't play the "they should be this if it weren't for that" card.  If if if if if!  If my sister had a fleshpop, she'd be my brother.  They have a bad record because they are a bad team.  They are poorly coached and they execute poorly at even the most fundamental levels.  Was and Dallas were fools gold.  Denny Green said it best: "They are who we thought they were."   

The 2nd problem is that you suck at hypotheticals.  Since you're playing the "what if game" then you should go ALL IN and say they should have been 6-1 and throw the Giants game in there too.  Buffalo is the only team they trailed from soup to nuts so far this year.

Disagree.  I think Atl and San Fran are the two games that really stand out as the "How the farg did they lose" games.  Both games seemed well in hand when the defense and offense both just started farging around.  Additionally, both games had ridiculous redzone turnovers that ended up severely costing the Eagles.  After the Dallas game, it seemed like the team might have put the redzone turnovers behind them, and also gotten away from the wideeeeeee wide 9 and the stupid zone coverages.  Nope.
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: ice grillin you on November 08, 2011, 08:35:33 PM
bad teams find ways to lose...good teams ways to win
Title: Re: Week Nine 2011
Post by: shorebird on November 12, 2011, 07:48:53 AM
The Eagles lose becuase of stupid shtein, dropped passes, bad decisions, bad play calls, bad game plans, turnovers at the worst possible times. It's frustrating as hell and I feel a direct result of a coach who had outlived his time.