11-5 regular season.
Win NFCCG over Green Bay.
Lose to Patriots in Super Bowl.
That's it. That's the deal. Whatcha got, bitches?
10-6 regular season
Lose first playoff game to someone infurating
We all argue with each other while IGY brags about how he "called it"
I contemplate drinking antifreeze but decide those fargers aren't worth it and instead just go on a 3-month Miller Lite bender.
Reid is still our coach. I'm not buying into the hype. I think Vick could have a bad season, with this oline, new contract and the added pressure of winning a championship. Too bad his coach couldn't build him a championship caliber oline. We win the division of course but the ship always stops in the playoffs. See you next year...
THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0)
If they win a super bowl this year I will gladly let all of you rip me for that prediction. Please I would very much enjoy that :yay
Yes, the classic IGY "I'm rooting for them but until they win a Super Bowl I'm telling you they suck, and suck hard."
At least he is entertaining. You are officially headed to the block list, mussa. See ya.
Its a realistic view when your head coach has proven time and time again he can't win big games and is predictable as a morning piss. Keep your hopes up there buddy, I'll stay grounded and miserable until that moron is dead and gone.
there it is. amazing. hes like farging ray finkle.
I find it interesting that people have talked about how overhyped the Eagles are, but if you look at ESPN and their 12 or 16 experts, and all of sports illustrated and cbs, I haven't seen a single person predict the Eagles to win the SB, and I only recall one out of 20 or 25 to even say they'll make it. I think the hype machine is actually going in the opposite direction right now and that they have a good chance of making the SB in the NFC.
But I don't have the balls to predict that, so I'll stick with the groundhog day script of they make the NFC Championship game after winning 11 games and lose in excruciating fashion to someone they probably should beat. New Orleans maybe.
I think they'll finish the regular season 11-5, primarily because they have talent at positions that can mask other deficiencies and the NFC and their schedule is weak. Last year it seemed they peaked a little too early then took it down a notch. My main concern the first half of the season is how fast the team can gel, I think it'll appear that they gel faster than they do because they have such an easy early schedule. Ultimately I think there's too many question marks at key spots to make a serious run at a SB. That being said I think they make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs.
19-0
10-6, same old shtein. Some off the chart victories and some real zesty losses (see Minnesota last year). AR still running the team. I do see one playoff win in the wildcard game but not past the next round.
9-7. Meh.
I have no f'ng idea.
I give them at least 8 wins, but after that I don't know.
And neither does anyone else.
Is there any sport where preseason predictions are more pointless? The Eagles have talent at the most important positions in today's NFL. My biggest concern other than oline of course, is that they don't have a true difference maker in their front seven.
Trent Cole is a great player but he always seems to wear down by the end of the season and their dline seems to built that way again.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 07, 2011, 10:25:29 PM
I have no f'ng idea.
I give them at least 8 wins, but after that I don't know.
And neither does anyone else.
They're better than they were last year in DL, RB, & CB and no worse off anywhere else. Plus Vick has undisputed control of the team as the #1 QB.
They went 10-6 last year and should be no worse than that this year, hence the 11-5 guess.
It all comes down to Vick and whether the OL will protect him enough and whether Reid will take a saner approach to offensive balance. If those two things happen and the defense does what we think it can, this will be a special team. Plus it's not like the NFC East is filled with juggernauts this year.
I stand corrected.
Neither does anyone else, except you.
6-10
Vick goes down in week 2. Young comes in and gets hammered every other play because Andy and Morningwood refuse to run the ball more. Jackson doesn't hold out, but clearly half-asses it all season long. TEs and RBs have career receiving days against the awesome linebackers. Asante finishes the season with 15 picks.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 07, 2011, 10:49:08 PM
I stand corrected.
Neither does anyone else, except you.
Holy shtein, Dio. Quit being such a little bitch and make a prediction.
It's not like we will take a flame thrower to your testicles if you're wrong.
There are question marks going into every year, but I've never seen one in which there is such a drastic range of realistic possibilities. I could easily see Vick go down in week 2 then going through a string of QBs like in '91 or whenever that was. And I could see the Oline gelling in time for the usual strong Nov/Dec finish and go deep into the playoffs. So I'll predict all things balance out in the end and they go 0-0-16, and will have to wait until 2012 when VY, coming in relief for Vick, leads them to the long awaited SB victory.
11-5 and a SB appearance.
I don't think they win the Super Bowl because of the OL, LB and Castillo potentially being overmatched.
Fine.
8-8.
Cowboys win NFC East
farg it... I'll go ahead and say it. Eagles win the farging Super Bowl.
The o-line and all the new pieces will hit it's stride midseason and they keep it rolling.
See you at the parade in February...
12-4, 1st in NFC
Lose at home in NFCCG to Nawlins
I dont buy the GB hype
it's not really hype when they just won the Super Bowl is it? They are a good to great team.
I originally was 12-4, but I think they will struggle more than expected and lose a game they probably shouldn't in their first 6. So I'll say 11-5, but I think if things fall into place like we hope they do, and the line jells throughout the season they can make a deep run in the playoffs. I think they can make it to the Super Bowl just as easily as they can lose in their divisional game.
10-6
Man, this depends on soooo many variables. I'll go with 10-6, assuming the o-line is mediocre, but improves over the course of the season.
to me its hype because if desean doesnt return that punt, GB doesnt even make the playoffs. when they lost to detroit that day, everyone stopped talking about them. rodgers gets hot at the right time, and all of the sudden, theyre ready to start a dynasty? i get all the guys coming back off of IR, but aside from finley and grant, who cares - its not like they lost jennings or woodson and theyre getting them back..theyll win the division and make the playoffs, but im more worried about NO than I am GB.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 07, 2011, 10:27:42 PM
The Eagles have talent at the most important positions in today's NFL.
they completely blow at arguably the most important position which is offensive line....the defensive front seven is better but weak if you are talking superbowl....that said the improvement at cb cannot be understated and that alone has to improve the defense....31 td passes against was just a travesty...to put that in perspective houston whose pass D was a running joke all year gave up 33
something that really scares me on that side of he ball and seems to kind have been pushed aside since the preseason started is that juany is still the DC...we dont know exactly how that will turn out but its has scary potentially to go really bad...keep an eye and ear to the defense off the field...listen to how players talk about juany and how their body language towards him on the sidelines is...also we may never hear about this but id love to see the amount of attention being given to him in team meetings...you can have all the talent ugrades you want but if everyone is not on the same page the coordinator is not respected then you start t have breakdowns on the field and fraction off it...this will be a huge key this season
really tho if they are gonna win a ton of games and challenge for a title vick needs to prove to me that he can adjust to the defenses that brought the house towards the end of the season last year and not consistently turn the ball over like he did in the last seven games....the line doesnt help but in the end i think vick is the reason they wont win a superbowl....with the sick weapons they have a truly elite passing qb could overcome this offensive line and win a sb.....for example if dree brees was the qb of this team id put them on a level with gb...its really scary to think what he could do with this offense...but vick as exciting as he is and as good as he was last year imo just isnt that guy
but with vick as it stands now i kind of agree with the people who have been saying more of the same....they will be exciting and have some fancy wins and they will also lose some inexcusable games joe webb holla....in the end they will win 9-10 games and probably lose their first playoff game depending on who they pull...last year for example they got a terrible draw in gb....hopefully this year its better and they can win a game or two in the postseason....actually hopefully they can win the superbowl but the holes they have wont allow that unless vick over the off season has turned into a pocket passing quick release blitz recognizing defensive reading qb
9-7, maybe 7-9... the o line is terrible, and vick still hasn't shown that he can make better decisions.
have a feeling it will be a frustrating season.
I'm not going to argue that the oline isn't important, but the Steelers have won 2 Super Bowls with less than average olines. In the NFL as it stands today if you have talent at QB, can rush the passer, and have a strong secondary....you can win.
My biggest concern like I said is that pass rush wearing down by the end of the season.
i think you are confusing the steelers line maybe last year with the years they won....their offenive line in 05 or whenever they beat seattle was really good and the other year it was above avergae
steelers had an outrageous front seven who destroyed qb's.....the eagles front seven is weak
the steelers were soft at cb.....the eagles are stacked
the steelers had a big tall game managing pocket (albeit mobile) qb....the eagles have a tiny running qb
because he was so good for large parts of last year i def leave open the possibility that vick has truly transformed himself as a pocket qb...but hes still 5'11 and i doubt hes grown over the summer...which means he still cant see over the lineman to make the short accurate throws that back off a blitz and until i see otherwise vick in those situations will always bail out to run
really the steeler teams that won couldnt be more different from the eagles this year so im not sure they are an example to be held up as to why the eagles can win it all this season
the one similarity (hopefully) is that the eagles have a long standing coach who could never get over the hump but finally after 10 plus years wins a sb
The steelers havent had a good line in a while. My point is the eagles have enough talent that they can win. Coaching is also a huge concern
i agree theres like 15 teams that have enough talent to win and i dont think anyone is disputing that the eagles are one of them
these days its so watered down that if you have enough talent to make the playoffs you have enough talent to win the superbowl and thats like half the league...problem with the eagles is that their lack of talent is in horrible places...OL and D front seven
lots of winning it all is of course luck and bounces and maybe everything will go the eagles way....its certainly possible
i personally dont see a team with a 5'11 running qb and/or no offensive line will ever win a superbowl
i mean right now on paper you can make the argument that the eagles have the worst OL in the nfl
Quote from: Diomedes on September 08, 2011, 07:33:30 AM
Fine.
8-8.
Cowboys win NFC East
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15-1 and a win in February.
What? If you're going to hope, hope big...
lol don
Coaching is a huge factor in comparing Philly to the Steelers. They base their game off the fundamentals of football. Possessing the ball more than your opponent with a running/balanced offense and a defense that is arguably the best in the league, year after year. They are completely different (and better) team than the Eagles in every aspect of the game.
Quote from: mussa on September 08, 2011, 07:32:03 PM
They are completely different (and better) team than the Eagles in every aspect of the game.
Sexual assault on hot college chicks >>>>>>>>> dog fighting/running a gambling ring.
Their QB even commits better crimes than the Eagles'.
Mussa there is no such animal as a balanced offense in todays nfl. The last two super bowl winners won it with awesome passing games and very pedestrian running games.
Bottom line is the eagles always seem to make it to the playoffs....hopefully the difference with this team is they don't have a vadge for a QB
In the Eagles case it comes down to o-line protection and right now that seems to be the weakest link. If they can't protect Vick, why rely on the pass so much? They don't need to score 40 pts a game if they can manage the clock and keep the other team off the field. Our defense can't be on the field more than our offense. If our o-line was legit, I'd be all about the pass. It's not, so you have to play smart with what you have. Vick can't be great without protection, no QB can. All the elite QB's have amazing lines, or they have an offense built to run first or a defense that can stop almost anyone. We have neither. I realize todays NFL is a passing game, and we have the offensive weapons to be elite, but our o-line has issues and until they solidify that up, don't expect the Eagles to be able to hang with Green Bay this year. I don't know how much more obvious it can get really.
if the offensive line is that bad (and it is) what makes you think they can run block any more than they can pass block
i agree its a disgrace that they are going into this year with this line but its absolutely ridiculous to say because of that they should morph into a running team...number one because andy reid would never ever do it and number two why would you waste all the weapons they have on the outside
they are built for big plays and flinging the ball around....its to late to do a 180
Not what I said dude. Not at all. They need to balance it out more, do more to set up the pass rather than just pass.
they were 3rd in the nfl in pts last year and 5th in rushing....neither offense nor running the ball was their problem
Thats with Vicks rushing yards, that sort of hard to count as real running yardage. They can run the ball when they want to, that's why its frustrating to me when they don't. I'd rather see them take their time on offense then force things and have so many 3 and outs when they should be sustaining long drives and controlling the clock.
I cannot believe you farging idiots are arguing about this crap.
farg you.
Quote from: mussa on September 09, 2011, 05:57:04 PM
Thats with Vicks rushing yards, that sort of hard to count as real running yardage. They can run the ball when they want to, that's why its frustrating to me when they don't. I'd rather see them take their time on offense then force things and have so many 3 and outs when they should be sustaining long drives and controlling the clock.
oh so now rushing yards by a running qb dont count as rushing yards?
i guess yardage off screen plays really arent passing yardage...so we will count all those as rushing yards and call it even
deal?
Yeah, I don't really get that argument either. Rushing yards are rushing yards whether they come from a direct hand off, QB scramble or end around. I know Mussa wants a more balanced offense with called run plays vs called pass plays but after 12 years of Reid, that simply isn't going to happen and we should accept that as reality. Besides, with the receivers that the Eagles have now, I don't mind the higher % of pass plays being called. This team is built to pass and they should do just that. Besides, it's a passing league right now and will be for the foreseeable future.
ive said it a million times but reids biggest is when he ran not how much he ran....and while hes still far from perfect and will call some horrible games he has shown in the last couple years that he will run out a game which is something he rarely did before...
other than 1999 when i just didnt care that much and was still trying to figure out his tendencies last year was the season i had the least amount of meltdowns over reids play calling
they are baby steps and this isnt saying a ton but hes def at the peak of his play calling right now
You and me both. I said numerous times that I felt last year was easily Reid's best coaching job and that his play calling was remarkably better than years passed. He picks his spots when it comes to running the ball and last year he picked them quite nicely for the most part.
He still out thinks himself and is generally still bad at adjusting throughout the course of the game, but those are things I don't suspect will ever change. Should the Eagles make it back to the Super Bowl, you just have to hope that his game plan is effective, otherwise it'll just be another post season failure.
Curious how many plays that would have failed last year, and we would have been all over him....except Vick would run for the first down and save his ass.
maybe there should be a stat for yards for when the historically bad offensive line gets vick shuffled from the pocket or when the play is so bad it never had a chance to begin with with and vick goes ahead and makes it happen anyway.
When you have a qb like Vick, you know that there's always the possibility that he'll bail out a bad play call/poor protection with his legs. Even if a coach were to call the absolute perfect play 100% of the time it's still up to the players to execute it properly, which will never happen 100% of the time. So no matter how good or bad a play call might be, protection breaks down, receivers run wrong routes, running backs miss blocking assignements, etc, etc and a certain level of improv will have to be utilitzed in order to keep moving forward.
I'm still impressed that he admitted Vick was too good to keep on the bench. You know how bad he wanted to stick to his guns and pound his chest every time Kolb had a good game.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 10, 2011, 06:09:55 AM
I'm still impressed that he admitted Vick was too good to keep on the bench. You know how bad he wanted to stick to his guns and pound his chest every time Kolb had a good game.
oh vick was a much bigger deal to andy than cobb....if cobb plays hes just a second round pick qb who starts for andy and plays well in his system.....vick is out of levenworth and was a horrible qb his whole career....if andy can turn that into a legit qb he is gawd for life....theres no contest btwn the two pet projects and andys ego was fully invested into vik they day they signed him...he was looking for ways to give him the job
As Obama is to the Republicans, so FF is to igy. The guy could say the sky is blue and you would find an insulting way to argue the point.
cant agree with everyone mister kumbaya
This is still the prediction thread right? My eyes glazed over looking at the retard fight, but here it goes:
I think they could easily be looking at 3-3 at the bye - considering that the shrink wrap hasn't even been taken off the new o-line yet if they are 3-3 and Vick is healthy this would be a win.
The Eagles will be a completely different team after the bye. Some of this will be because the team will begin to "gel", some will be because they will add a LB before the trade deadline, and some will be because that's just what AR teams do.
When its all said and done, this team should end up 11-5. Vick will play in at least 14 games, Pimp will surprise and be the teams leading WR (although McCoy will probably lead the team in catches), and the Eagles will win the division. I see a loss in the divisional round - probably on the road in GB.
Quote from: Butchers Bill on September 10, 2011, 01:42:27 PM
I think they could easily be looking at 3-3 at the bye - considering that the shrink wrap hasn't even been taken off the new o-line yet if they are 3-3 and Vick is healthy this would be a win.
The Eagles will be a completely different team after the bye.
Almost exactly how I feel. 3-3 at bye, don't panic, turn it on last half of the season. Playoffs still a huge concern with AR at the helm.
11-5 and they win their first playoff game at home. Beyond that, who knows...
Quote from: Butchers Bill on September 10, 2011, 01:42:27 PM
This is still the prediction thread right? My eyes glazed over looking at the retard fight, but here it goes:
I think they could easily be looking at 3-3 at the bye - considering that the shrink wrap hasn't even been taken off the new o-line yet if they are 3-3 and Vick is healthy this would be a win.
The Eagles will be a completely different team after the bye. Some of this will be because the team will begin to "gel", some will be because they will add a LB before the trade deadline, and some will be because that's just what AR teams do.
When its all said and done, this team should end up 11-5. Vick will play in at least 14 games, Pimp will surprise and be the teams leading WR (although McCoy will probably lead the team in catches), and the Eagles will win the division. I see a loss in the divisional round - probably on the road in GB.
i pretty much agree with all of this except i cant see them losing only two games after the bye....schedule is way too tough...i think more realistic is 3-3 even 4-1 into bye and 6-4 out of it
10-6, one playoff win at best
its andy reid, folks.
I Vick stays healthy I'll say 11-5.
12-4.
Right now they're looking like a team that will go 0-17. Yeah, they'd lose the bye week, too.
Bissinger weighs in!
QuoteSee the Eagles 11-5 at worst, 12-4. Offensive line will kick ass second half. Rest of NFC East sucks. McCoy one of 3 best backs in league.
QuoteEagle linebackers a little scary but they can cover. Secondary great. Defensive line gets off enough pressure is a super bowl season.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 11, 2011, 01:17:01 PM
Right now they're looking like a team that will go 0-17. Yeah, they'd lose the bye week, too.
I never overreact to the game conditions!