Great signing, lot of Broncos fans wanted him back. They say he's a borderline pro bowl talent but injuries have held him back. Think he eventually becomes the starter.
Almost looks like they'll have some depth on the line this year.
Little worrisome that the Broncos or any team for that matter would let a 25 yr old potential pro bowl lineman walk like that. His injuries are probably a lot worse than expected.
Either way it's needed, so if the Eagles get lucky and he dodges injuries for a year-thank you Broncos.
Quote from: reese125 on August 03, 2011, 12:39:13 PM
Little worrisome that the Broncos or any team for that matter would let a 25 yr old potential pro bowl lineman walk like that.
They didn't. They were actually in the process of re-signing him.
This guy is week 1 starter. Watch. Not cuz he's the next Willie Roaf, but because of the hot garbage that's at RT right now.
My boss is a die-hard Broncos fan and he about went through the roof this morning when I told him about Harris.
:-D
http://www.csnphilly.com/08/02/11/Eagles-sign-tackle-Harris-then-add-safet/news_eagles.html?blockID=545549&feedID=692 (http://www.csnphilly.com/08/02/11/Eagles-sign-tackle-Harris-then-add-safet/news_eagles.html?blockID=545549&feedID=692)
QuoteSelected by Denver in the third round of the 2007 draft, the 26-year-old Harris played his first four NFL seasons for the Broncos, starting at right tackle for the last three
I don't think he'll have any problem taking Justice's starting spot
according to domo he doesnt fit denvers new mash mouth running game scheme that fox likes to run...which is why they didnt make a crazy push to get him back
on the flip side he fits mudds system well being a smaller athletic type guy....he only weighs 300 pounds or 15 punds less than aq shipley
since you all love Ray Diddy, he absolutely is in love with this pick up.
I've noticed Diddy has been slippin since he came back from heart surgery. That is besides the point though I really like this signing if the dude can stay healthy.
bizarro world
Quote from: Feva on August 03, 2011, 12:56:12 PM
Quote from: reese125 on August 03, 2011, 12:39:13 PM
Little worrisome that the Broncos or any team for that matter would let a 25 yr old potential pro bowl lineman walk like that.
They didn't. They were actually in the process of re-signing him.
This guy is week 1 starter. Watch. Not cuz he's the next Willie Roaf, but because of the hot garbage that's at RT right now.
Nah--I dont think that was the case of them re-signing him. Elway made it pretty clear in April that they weren't bringing Harris back, and the visit to Denver was supposedly just a formality. Just sayin.
Either way it doesnt matter--his potential with a new line coach could do wonders.
QuoteHarris was the best of the still-available free agent tackles. Early yesterday, though, it looked like he was going to re-sign with the Broncos. He was scheduled to go there Tuesday for a "visit" with new head coach John Fox and was expected to take a physical and probably re-sign. But the Eagles sweet-talked yet another free agent into coming to Philadelphia.
But but, reese said...
They're only doing it to piss him off.
Thats from Domowitch, so you know he'll spin the shtein to make it look like the Eagles stole another one away.
I was going off what the Denver Post was reporting since he became a free agent. Typically they'll have the clearer inside scoop of management and their own players than a philly reporter.
Good for you.
There were a lot of under the radar signings that went unnoticed, I think Harris winds up being the best of that lot: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20110808_Eagles_Notes___Harris_may_be_solidifying_role_as_Eagles_right_tackle.html
If he's not the opening day starter at some point I think he takes over as the every day RT.
He's more likely to be the opening day starter than to take over later, with Justice being injured and Dunlap apparently falling below Austin Howard on the depth chart. If he leaves something to be desired, Justice would have a chance to take over once he gets healthy.
yeah he was the opening day starter from the minute they signed him...they just cant say it since they want to give the appearance of a competition...i dont think justice injury has much to do with it either...he sucks when healthy and harris was an upgrade
Also, don't forget the one year deal... Not sure how long they have any of the other "candidates" locked up, but the Eagles are usually hesitant to put a guy in the last year of his contract in an important position.
Eskin reporting Harris needs surgery for a herniated disc and is likely done for the season
Uggh. That would suck.
yeah they are basically cooked now....if you combine position importance with talent then their o line is def worse than their linebackers
Might as well move Wost Manneans now, if that's the case.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 26, 2011, 02:38:49 PM
Might as well move Wost Manneans now, if that's the case.
Yep.
Peters-Mathis-Jackson-Fireman-Manneans
Thats the best OL in my opinion
Les Bowen:
QuoteFor what it's worth, Ryan Harris just told me he doesn't think his back problem is going to need surgery, "but maybe your source is better."
3 seasons as a starter and the last 2 injured. Ten games played in 2010, and eight in 2009--3 back surgeries in 6 years.
Thanks for your time Ryan.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2011, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on August 26, 2011, 02:38:49 PM
Might as well move Wost Manneans now, if that's the case.
Yep.
Peters-Mathis-Jackson-Fireman-Manneans
Thats the best OL in my opinion
Thats sad, when you figure that the Eagles brass has put so much into this team in the offseason, to go into a year contending for a Superbowl with a o-line like that is pretty much embarassing.
its ironic because andy has always prided himself in the OL and the depth of the unit benefitted the eagles many times over the years....now when they are all set up to make a honest to goodness SB run they dont even have a good starting unit
and god forbid they have any injuries on the line this year as the second unit is a straight up travesty
according to wip ryan harris just tweeted "just finished 20 minute walk - back in no time"
yeah, back to a house with no handicap ramps in no time
A 20 minute walk really does take no time at all.
I knocked one out the other day in about 12 minutes.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2011, 07:49:19 AM
its ironic because andy has always prided himself in the OL and the depth of the unit benefitted the eagles many times over the years....now when they are all set up to make a honest to goodness SB run they dont even have a good starting unit
and god forbid they have any injuries on the line this year as the second unit is a straight up travesty
Yep... that's what keeps bugging me too. All these shiny new toys ain't gonna mean shtein in the end without a competent o-line. Too many times in the past, Andy has gone into the season with a huge glaring hole on the team. Punt returner, RCB... this year, it's the o-line that's going to be the part of the team that drags everything down.
Quote from: Feva on August 31, 2011, 03:00:55 PM
Too many times in the past, Andy has gone into the season with a huge glaring hole on the team.
the one difference with the other times tho was that the year prior the hole wasnt there...in this case the line was terrible last year and wasnt imporved in any tangible way...you have to think andy is banking on vicks escapism again and figures with the best running qb of all time he can have a zesty line
on the positive side re: the hole this year is that at least they have two young guys who could improve and by seasons end maybe their line will be much improved...when they had no PR it wasnt like reno mahe was all of a sudden gonna be a player come week 9
as i mentioned the other day the early season schedule really helps them...best case scenario is get to the bye week at 5-1 hope watkins and kelce have grown up the line has meshed and they are ready to go coming out of what should be a training camp type bye week where they are teaching and people are learning
I also think he thought hiring Howard Mudd would automatically make the line better. And maybe in a normal year that would be the case. Hopefully like you said they develop midway through the season.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2011, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: Feva on August 31, 2011, 03:00:55 PM
Too many times in the past, Andy has gone into the season with a huge glaring hole on the team.
the one difference with the other times tho was that the year prior the hole wasnt there
The receiving corps from 1999-2003 disagrees.
To be honest, how were they going to improve the o-line this offseason?? There wasn't really any major names on the market, so their hands were kind of tied. Hopefully the fireman turns out to be a player, and our oline is a bit better this year.
Quote from: Feva on August 31, 2011, 03:00:55 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2011, 07:49:19 AM
its ironic because andy has always prided himself in the OL and the depth of the unit benefitted the eagles many times over the years....now when they are all set up to make a honest to goodness SB run they dont even have a good starting unit
and god forbid they have any injuries on the line this year as the second unit is a straight up travesty
Yep... that's what keeps bugging me too. All these shiny new toys ain't gonna mean shtein in the end without a competent o-line. Too many times in the past, Andy has gone into the season with a huge glaring hole on the team. Punt returner, RCB... this year, it's the o-line that's going to be the part of the team that drags everything down.
I'm just hoping that they aren't so bad that Vick gets hurt because they can't protect him.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2011, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: Feva on August 31, 2011, 03:00:55 PM
Too many times in the past, Andy has gone into the season with a huge glaring hole on the team.
the one difference with the other times tho was that the year prior the hole wasnt there...in this case the line was terrible last year and wasnt imporved in any tangible way...you have to think andy is banking on vicks escapism again and figures with the best running qb of all time he can have a zesty line
on the positive side re: the hole this year is that at least they have two young guys who could improve and by seasons end maybe their line will be much improved...when they had no PR it wasnt like reno mahe was all of a sudden gonna be a player come week 9
as i mentioned the other day the early season schedule really helps them...best case scenario is get to the bye week at 5-1 hope watkins and kelce have grown up the line has meshed and they are ready to go coming out of what should be a training camp type bye week where they are teaching and people are learning
Not necessarily arguing against 5-1, but I'll moneyback guarantee you the Eagles lose Week1.
Quote from: Hawk on August 31, 2011, 04:45:19 PM
To be honest, how were they going to improve the o-line this offseason?? There wasn't really any major names on the market, so their hands were kind of tied. Hopefully the fireman turns out to be a player, and our oline is a bit better this year.
I'm not sure what qualifies as major names, but there were certainly players available that would have been upgrades
5-1 is best case
4-2 would be perfectly acceptable
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 31, 2011, 04:38:09 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2011, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: Feva on August 31, 2011, 03:00:55 PM
Too many times in the past, Andy has gone into the season with a huge glaring hole on the team.
the one difference with the other times tho was that the year prior the hole wasnt there
The receiving corps from 1999-2003 disagrees.
im not arguing the wr didnt suck but you can win with weak wr because they are a part of a much larger whole where as the entire offense is dependant on the OL.....imo you can have weak wr's but you cant really have a hole at that spot if that makes sense...and a positon like PR is on an island by themselves and has a monster downside in turnovers...certainly with a vick you can somewhat overcome a terrible offensive line which is what andy i guess is counting on...however if anyone but vick is qb last year they are 6-10 because of the line...they were never 6-10 from 2000-2004
Quote from: Hawk on August 31, 2011, 04:45:19 PM
To be honest, how were they going to improve the o-line this offseason?? There wasn't really any major names on the market, so their hands were kind of tied. Hopefully the fireman turns out to be a player, and our oline is a bit better this year.
They reportedly went after Doug Free who would have been arguably a bigger addition than Assy. Free would have drastically upgraded RT from last year and also would have allowed Herremans to stay at LG.