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Quote23. Philadelphia Eagles (10-6), Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple: I've been a loud Wilkerson supporter for several months now. My sleeper pick lived up to the hype in Indianapolis, working out well Monday. The two-time All-MAC selection starred at Temple, where he played two years as a three-technique in a 4-3, and then one tremendous junior year as a five-technique in the 3-4. A hard worker with unlimited potential, this year's big surprise name could very well be the 6-foot-5, 305-pound Wilkerson. A local kid, he's a run stuffer inside with pass-rushing capabilities. Andy Reid loves building from the inside out, and in Wilkerson, he can add depth to a defensive line that was ravaged by injuries last season. New defensive coordinator Juan Castillo will get a nice draft day treat in the Philly product.
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What?
cool...he has pass rush "capabilities". I want him.
Pass
How good can the guy be if he felt his best college destination was Temple?
Fastball?
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 02, 2011, 09:30:35 AM
How good can the guy be if he felt his best college destination was Temple?
how accurate can peter schrager be at picking players and the team they will play for?
Has any draftnik over the past 20 years picked the 24th pick of the first round correctly? The whole practice is retarded.
True but it's better than talking about food.
Amen, sister.
A D line that was ravaged by injuries? More like a d line that sucked.
i guess this is the "draft" thread ?
Quotehttp://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-Eagles-work-out-Ohio-State-LBs-Brian-Rolle-Ross-Homan.html
Quote from: smeags on March 15, 2011, 12:44:57 PM
i guess this is the "draft" thread ?
Quotehttp://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-Eagles-work-out-Ohio-State-LBs-Brian-Rolle-Ross-Homan.html
5-foot-9 and 229 pounds? I'd put that beast in the middle. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
5'9? Reno? Wait, he was 5'6. My bad.
I don't think I have ever been so uninterested in a draft.
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Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 15, 2011, 09:07:19 PM
I don't think I have ever been so uninterested in a draft.
That makes two of us. I am just sick and tired of trying to figure out Banner Inc. I'll definitely be turning it off during the third round.
pretty sure dm was referring to the fact that the lockout has taken all the interest out of it...and i agree
Oh of course, this whole CBA fiasco has put a damper on things. Now the whole bullshtein about the invited rookies being pressured not to show up just makes it worse.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2011, 02:27:50 AM
pretty sure dm was referring to the fact that the lockout has taken all the interest out of it...and i agree
No doubt....it has taken away fa and the potential to get something for kolb.
plus it starts on thursday.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 16, 2011, 09:47:25 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2011, 02:27:50 AM
pretty sure dm was referring to the fact that the lockout has taken all the interest out of it...and i agree
No doubt....it has taken away fa and the potential to get something for kolb.
even taking out the eagle centric part of it its ruined...im usully a huge draft guy above and beyond the eagles and to me the whole thing is ruined
I could care less whether the rookies show or don't show. Watching them walk across the stage and hold a jersey for a camera doesn't do it for me. I would rather hear more Kiper/McShay analysis on each player and the fit on the team.
that is a weak move on the part of the nflpa IMO what whatever.
the nflpa better be careful not to distance itself too much from the fans..i think the majority of fans is siding with the players and this move can be looked at as a smack in the face to the die-hard fans who follow the draft closer than most - coming from the players side. some fans can argue that petty shtein like this and things like petersons comments yesterday indicate that missing games in 11' doesnt matter to them as much as it does to us. the diehards will always be back, will always go to games, will always buy the merch, but what about the casual fan? theyre gonna end up causing more damage than good in the long run with this (even if the fans all return at a later point)
yeah moves like this along with players acting like they are kunta kinte is not going to earn you points with the fans.
im actually all for pissing off the nerd fanbase....any fan that actually cares that there are player photo ops at the draft should be shot...i cant believe this is an issue at all but i guess i underestimated these people
Showing the players and their families waiting for the call at the draft was probably my least favorite part of the 1st round. It is infinitely better when they have the shots of players with about 50 family members in their living rooms a la DeSean Jackson and Brandon Graham.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2011, 10:33:35 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 16, 2011, 09:47:25 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2011, 02:27:50 AM
pretty sure dm was referring to the fact that the lockout has taken all the interest out of it...and i agree
No doubt....it has taken away fa and the potential to get something for kolb.
even taking out the eagle centric part of it its ruined...im usully a huge draft guy above and beyond the eagles and to me the whole thing is ruined
I agree, its bad enough they moved it to Thursday. I also have a problem that the NFLPA wants these kids to boycott it. Its a once in a lifetime opportunity for them and their families, let them enjoy their fn day.
the birds are on tonight's Path to the Draft on NFLN
Tyrod Taylor is reportedly coming in for a workout
And a guy who I love - OkState RB Kendall Hunter - is also coming in for a workout. I hope they draft him.
Any chance the Eagles might draft a running back who isn't a pygmy?
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/RB/Kendall-Hunter.php (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/RB/Kendall-Hunter.php)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 19, 2011, 01:25:04 PM
Tyrod Taylor is reportedly coming in for a workout
And a guy who I love - OkState RB Kendall Hunter - is also coming in for a workout. I hope they draft him.
Why? Are you in a hurry to see him not play until 2012?
Tyrod Taylor's best hope at being anything whatsoever in the NFL is learning from VT boy Vick. That's not saying much.
KENDALL HUNTER IS NOT THE NEXT BRIAN WESTBROOK
Considering he didn't catch the ball much if at all in college, I'd say that's...
ACCURATE.
UCONN LB Lawrence Wilson (6-1 229) scheduled to visit
6-1 229?
jesus farging christ with those iceholes never learn?
They never actually draft the players they bring in...so that's reassuring.
Do not want UCONN football products, thank you very much.
That being said, go Connecticut!
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 20, 2011, 08:04:21 AM
KENDALL HUNTER IS NOT THE NEXT BRIAN WESTBROOK
Ryan Moats was the next Brian Westbrook.
So Kendall Hunter is the next Ryan Moats?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 21, 2011, 03:16:05 PM
So Kendall Hunter is the next Ryan Moats?
or if he hits his ceiling...lorenzo booker
Dreamer
They were awarded two lousy 7th round comp picks today
Shut it you goddamn negadelphian.
lol
Fastballs! 7th rounders!
Maybe they can not sign one and he can go on to a decent career! RAHEEM BROCK FASTBAULZ
QuoteThe Eagles are among the teams scheduled to hold a private workout with California safety Chris Conte, according to Aaron Wilson of the National Football Post.
Conte (6-2, 197) began his college career as a cornerback and didn't become a regular starter until his senior season, but was an All-Pac 10 first-team selection in 2010.
Conte's potential as an NFL prospect seems to vary. According to NFL.com's scouting reports, he'll likely be a late-round pick or undrafted free agent.
But Conte has apparently done quite a bit to improve his stock during recent workouts. Wilson says he's drawing third-round grades, and Russ Lande of The Sporting News recently named Conte one of his risers:
It was easy to see that Conte was highly productive in college because of his intelligence and physical style, but there was some worry about his limited athleticism. He proved, however, that those concerns were unwarranted, both at the Combine and at Cal's pro day. He has many of the tools to become a solid defensive starter who also contributes heavily on special teams, making him an intriguing third- or fourth-round pick.
Whenever player movement is allowed, the Eagles will have some decisions to make at safety. Regardless of what rules are put into place, Quintin Mikell is scheduled to become a free agent.
If the Birds let him walk, they'll be in the market for a new starting strong safety. Kurt Coleman, a seventh-round pick last year, could be the guy. Remember, Coleman got a late start last offseason because of NCAA rules. He's a player that really could have benefited from a full offseason of team workouts and one-on-one coaching, but we know that's not going to happen. The Eagles could create competition by adding a strong safety via free agency or through the draft.
Assuming he's healthy, Nate Allen will be the starting free safety. He ruptured his patella tendon late last season, but Andy Reid told reporters last week that Allen should be ready for the start of 2011.
Does anyone give a flying farg about the draft, considering there's likely not going to be a season in 2011?
Is Andy Reid still employed? I'm going to watch the games expecting a C+ effort all around, but I really can't give a shtein about anything else related to the team.
You guys must be nuts. I can't wait to see that revolutionary Juan Castillo defense in action.
I never have given two shteins about the nfl draft. I usually don't know who's coming out anyways...as long as we get lucky every 5 years...I guess that's par for the course?
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 27, 2011, 09:27:59 PM
You guys must be nuts. I can't wait to see that revolutionary Juan Castillo defense in action.
You know, I had momentarily forgotten about the whole Juan Castillo debacle. farg. What a nightmare.
Stephen Paea the DT from Oregon State who threw up 225 49 times at the combine is visiting.
Andy Dalton worked out for them
Colin Kaepernick too
Yawn
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 02, 2011, 09:14:15 PM
Stephen Paea the DT from Oregon State who threw up 225 49 times at the combine is visiting.
Ok, this dude is a beast. He will definitely go first round. Birds may finally get a Polynesian who pans out. Viva Samoa!
Is that why Gocong went to Cal Poly? Did he think it was some sort of ethnic school?
Quote from: Don Ho on April 05, 2011, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 02, 2011, 09:14:15 PM
Stephen Paea the DT from Oregon State who threw up 225 49 times at the combine is visiting.
Ok, this dude is a beast. He will definitely go first round. Birds may finally get a Polynesian who pans out. Viva Samoa!
Uh huh.
workout warrior mike mammlua
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 05, 2011, 01:23:12 PM
Is that why Gocong went to Cal Poly? Did he think it was some sort of ethnic school?
USC ran out of Pacific Islander scholarships.
So they worked out Jake Locker today.
Anyone care?
Me either.
OL or defense in the first five rounds...if they take any offensive players (and really they shouldnt take more than one lineman) who arent lineman in that window they should be shot
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2011, 10:23:36 PM
So they worked out Jake Locker today.
Anyone care?
Me either.
:-D
I have neighbors who are huge Broncos, Rams, Vikings, Steelers fans. Hardcore fans. Not one gives a rat's ass about the draft.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 14, 2011, 07:13:39 AM
OL or defense in the first five rounds...if they take any offensive players (and really they shouldnt take more than one lineman) who arent lineman in that window they should be shot
Start loading.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2011, 10:23:36 PM
So they worked out Jake Locker today.
Anyone care?
Me either.
Supposedly that isn't true.
You also suspect he really does care?
LOL that the draft is coming up and I honestly have no care in the world. I love the draft normally.
Actually, its more like COL :'(
ok ive tried to figure it out long enough....what is "COL"
judging by the crying smiley, I'd guess crying out loud. just a guess though.
i'm going to guess crying out loud
interesting
do people bet on the draft?
would these strange circumstances make it a good year, or a bad year, to bet the draft?
based on the running thread, i am thinking it's Crapping Out Loud
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 19, 2011, 06:48:47 PM
ok ive tried to figure it out long enough....what is "COL"
I just made it up on the fly. I said LOL, but I was crying inside so COL seemed more appropriate.
COL can be found on the Phils thread.
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Quote
Howie Roseman's version of deja vu may differ from that of Eagles fans.
Last year, Roseman entered his first offseason as Eagles general manager with what many considered glaring weaknesses at cornerback and offensive line. Though he and coach Andy Reid didn't place those needs at the top of their to-do list, a limited free-agent pool and deficiencies in the draft - especially on the line - hindered even more the Eagles' efforts to fill those holes.
In the end, the lack of depth at those positions proved to be a big part of the 2010 Eagles' undoing.
And so, Roseman charged into his second offseason with the same holes to plug: at right cornerback and on the right side of the offensive line.
But the start of this NFL calendar has not been a normal one. The lockout has stalled player movement, and any plans to fill the Eagles' needs through free agency and trades have been put on hold.
Barring a miraculous agreement between the owners and players or a judge lifting the lockout by next Thursday, the draft will take place before free agency for the first time.
As a GM with a reputation as a tinkerer and one still trying to prove himself - he is one of only two rookie GMs to start their jobs last offseason - Roseman has been shortchanged by the labor situation.
"You need a lot of patience through these times," Roseman said during a recent interview at the NovaCare Complex. "Last year, you only had free agency for guys that played six or more years in the league. This year, free agency didn't start when it has in the past. But it allows you to focus on what you can focus on, control what you can control."
Roseman can control the Eagles' draft. It will take place unimpeded by the work stoppage. The draft is essentially his baby, with Reid more the overseer, and it largely will be used to judge his first two years.
It takes years to effectively evaluate a class, but Roseman's first draft was a mixed bag after one season. Top picks Brandon Graham and Nate Allen, far from busts, did not break out the way some rookies did and were lost to season-ending injuries in December.
The Eagles received valuable contributions from a pair of seventh-rounders - safety Kurt Coleman and linebacker Jamar Chaney - and several among the 13 draftees showed promise.
But Graham and Allen will define Roseman's debut as draft mastermind. Reid said last month that Graham, with a torn anterior cruciate ligament, is a stretch to make the season opener, and Allen's return from a torn patellar tendon could be slowed by his not being able to rehabilitate with the Eagles' medical staff.
"It's the nature of the business," Roseman said of the injuries. "You know there's going to be injuries in this game, and that's why you build depth."
The Eagles did little to address depth concerns at cornerback and offensive line last offseason despite trading away corner Sheldon Brown and the return of center Jamaal Jackson from an ACL injury. They drafted only one corner (Trevard Lindley) and did not add a single lineman via the draft, a trade, or free agency.
Brown's replacement, Ellis Hobbs, was inconsistent before he suffered his second consecutive season-ending neck injury. Dimitri Patterson took over at right cornerback but was ill-equipped to handle the position's responsibilities.
Jackson made it back by the opener, but he tore his triceps, an injury he said may have been a result of the rush to return. Mike McGlynn was steady as his replacement, but his move to center gave the Eagles one less option at right guard after Stacy Andrews was jettisoned in the preseason.
"We knew there were going to be some [positions] that wouldn't be as great as we would like," Roseman said.
In hindsight, the Eagles may have been better served staying put at pick No. 24 - and possibly taking a cornerback such as Devin McCourty - instead of trading away that pick and two third-rounders to move up for Graham. But it's still too early to dismiss Graham, and there weren't many quality offensive linemen in last year's draft after the top three.
This year, Roseman said, there are. It's why many have projected the Eagles to select at No. 23 one of five tackles with near universal first-round grades.
Some expected the Eagles to dive headfirst into free agency this offseason, not to mention trade backup quarterback Kevin Kolb. But as much as the labor strife has handcuffed Roseman, he said no free agency will make his job easier during this year's draft.
"We always talk about taking the best player, and now because you have the draft first you can really stick true to that," Roseman said. "You may normally say, 'Man, this guy is a heck of a player. But we just signed so-and-so.' Well, you can do stuff like that now."
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Eagles Draft Preparations
Most of Howie Roseman's preparation for the NFL draft - next Thursday through April 30 - has been done well in advance.
The evaluation and grading of prospects began last May and hit full tilt during the college football season. After last season ended, the Eagles general manager began to work in earnest on his draft board. He will fiddle with it until the final moments before NFL commissioner Roger Goodell takes the podium at Radio City Music Hall next Thursday.
Here is a look at Roseman's chores on a typical day in the last few weeks:
1. He constantly shuffles prospects in and out of the NovaCare Complex for workouts, physical exams, and face-to-face meetings.
2. He rewinds the tape on players the Eagles have targeted early in the draft even though most of the film work has been done.
3. He monitors his evaluators on the road as they look under every rock during background checks on players.
4. He meets with scouts reporting from various college pro days and other scouting trips.
5. He meets with the coaches to evaluate the current roster and specifically each position group.
6. He holds strategy meetings to craft the draft board and discuss trading up or down in the first round and other deals.
7. He goes over medical reports on prospects with the Eagles medical team, which is headed by trainer Rick Burkholder.
8. He confers with coach Andy Reid - only two office doors away - up to 25 times a day.
Nauseating.
For Reid.
i love all the encased footballs in his office for all the championships hes won as a GM guru and the many awards he got during his playing days
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2011, 11:25:35 AM
i love all the encased footballs in his office for all the championships hes won as a GM guru and the many awards he got during his playing days
:-D That was the first thing i thought of. Might as well display his kids AYSO trophies and science fair awards.
Todd, what is the story on Muhammad Wilkerson? He's climbing everyone's draft board like crazy. I know one mock draft site had the birds taking him.
classic workout warrior.
So it looks like he will be the birds first pick.
maybe he can play goalie?
or Left Field
Howie couldn't do any worse than Holmgren at finding a goalie.
As a goalie he's no Iguadala.
Seems like a lot of mocks have the Eagles taking Colorado CB Jimmy Smith.....a top-15 talent that was arrested twice for drugs and is represented by Rosenhaus. get em
They a need a badass mofo in the secondary.
Smith would be a great selection. Get a stud on the OL in round 2, good start to the draft.
easys obsession with rosenhaus is unhealthy and more than a little frightening
What obsession? Just mentioning that he's Smith's agent
I have a feeling they will be trading back this year because of one of the teams that needs a Qb.
That's what Eskin said too. Looks like it'll be another defensive lineman
Oh man, I hope they go with an undersized one!
FASTBALLS!!
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 24, 2011, 10:31:41 PM
What obsession? Just mentioning that he's Smith's agent
that sort of mattered in 2004
its 2011 now, buddy
I won't have a problem with him until DeSean is holding out of camp (whenever that is)
because itll be his fault that the eagles wont pay his client
that boy should take what hes given and shut up amiright easy
I'm not a fan of holdouts in general. Maybe it speeds up the timetable on getting a new deal done, but it doesn't guarantee more money (and could be less depending on fines) and it usually angers teammates, coaches and fans. DeSean said he'd be patient until a new CBA is worked out and he didn't threaten to hold out last summer, but if a new deal gets done and Rosenhaus advises him to hold out immediately, then yea ima be pissed
maybe hes underpaid and banner should give him a raise, cause, you know, hes good
or maybe jeff lurie should keep the money and buy another house. either way.
POW...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6424084 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6424084)
:deion
Did they have the draft already?
Yeah the Birds took Johnny Whogivesafarg from Idontgiveadamn U.
Seriously though...
CB - OL should be the focus.
I, and many, would love Patrick Peterson but they have no shot. Well they would have the ability to trade up if Kolb was allowed to be dealt.
Prince Amukamara is another guy I like. Jimmy Smith's character concerns could cause him to fall and Brandon Harris from The U is also a good player
Bowen has them taking Iowa DE Adrian Clayborn.
Mayock has them taking Wisconsin OT Gabe Carimi
Orodenker has them taking Whothefargknows
Quote from: MDS on April 28, 2011, 02:03:39 AM
Orodenker has them taking Whothefargknows
Dude's got a wicked bubble.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2011, 11:23:31 PM
Bowen has them taking Iowa DE Adrian Clayborn.
Mayock has them taking Wisconsin OT Gabe Carimi
clayborn ate carimis lunch and shamed him last year if that means anything at all
It took until the day of, but I am slightly more interested than I was. Maybe the fact that they could be able to deal players is helping as I want Kolb sent on his way so they can get a stud CB
Nope, still don't care. I'll be flying tonight and buried under a mountain of beer cans and fish carcasses all weekend. I'll weigh in with my on point jewel-dropping orgasm inducing grades next week at some point and you will all bow down.
farg the owners.
Carimi had a good interview with gargano and macnow yesterday. I thought he came across real well though it obviously has no impact on how he plays the game.
if they take another farging DE i will loose my shtein.
3:1 says they trade out of the first.
Trade out of the first round and grab a RB with their first pick.
Loosing one's shtein is awesum.
imagine me giving you the middle finger right now
While you jog by?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2011, 08:48:15 AM
It took until the day of, but I am slightly more interested than I was. Maybe the fact that they could be able to deal players is helping as I want Kolb sent on his way so they can get a stud CB
I'll be interested until it takes 2 hours to make the first 5 picks of round 1.
What is with the player introductions? I feel for the poor SOB that doesn't get called tonight.
Da Commish getting butchered by all the meatheads in the theater.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 28, 2011, 07:26:15 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2011, 08:48:15 AM
It took until the day of, but I am slightly more interested than I was. Maybe the fact that they could be able to deal players is helping as I want Kolb sent on his way so they can get a stud CB
I'll be interested until it takes 2 hours to make the first 5 picks of round 1.
10 minutes a pick in the first round
Kolb for Peterson trade tomorrow?!
I wish.
Trading up with Dallas for Amukamara?
I would like that a lot
eagles dont trade up for good players
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
eagles dont trade up for good players
Jerome McDougle says farg you!
They're going to trade up for Amukamara
If he makes it past MIN and DET
I imagine DET taking Nick Fairley to pair up with Suh ---wow
They're going to pick someone with the 23rd pick, then package them with Kolb to Arz for Peterson. Roseman and Banner are jews and will figure out the loopholes.
Bowers knee must really be bad for everyone to pass on him. Kinda of like how everyone passed on Justice.
Damn.
Amukamara goes to the farging Jints
So they will probably go Gabe Carimi
its definitely possible that they could go best available and if that guy happens to be an OL they take him but i just dont see them going OL...you arent taking a guard here and they dont need a tackle enough to take one at this point in the draft
Or DaQuan Bowers?
He's dropping like crazy
cant believe they would take him after watching their top two picks explode their knees last year...and i cant really disagree with that
Come on, its the Eagles we're talking about here.
FASTBALLZ
QuoteBGraham54 Brandon Graham
I think the eagles gone select Jimmy smith that would be a good look!
Mudd seems to like more athletic OLinemen, not Andy's behemoths. Justice kind of fits this mold so I wouldn't be surprised to see them stay with Justice.
wonder if theres any chance at all they shock the world and take ayers
that would definitely shock me
The Giants took Amukamara because they liked the idea of Dimitri Patterson playing right cornerback for the Eagles.
The lockout certainly did a great job in killing this board's interest for the draft.
Danny Watkins, Guard.
I like the pick. Not flashy, but the interior o-line was god awful.
yawn
QuoteAdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Eagles drafted 39 OL and DL from 1999 -- Andy Reid's 1st draft -- to 2010. That was tied for most in NFL by any team from 1999-2010.
Tied for most with who?
And what was the difference between most and second most?
All the numbers, they confuse me.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
QuoteAdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Eagles drafted 39 OL and DL from 1999 -- Andy Reid's 1st draft -- to 2010. That was tied for most in NFL by any team from 1999-2010.
on the offensive line other than mayberry and herremans have any of them done anything
seems like the ones who played the most were acquired not via the draft (runyan, peters) not drafted by him (tra) or undrafted free agents (fraley, jj)
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2011, 10:56:05 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
QuoteAdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Eagles drafted 39 OL and DL from 1999 -- Andy Reid's 1st draft -- to 2010. That was tied for most in NFL by any team from 1999-2010.
on the offensive line other than mayberry and herremans have any of them done anything
seems like the ones who played the most were acquired not via the draft (runyan, peters) not drafted by him (tra) or undrafted free agents (fraley, jj)
Scott Young!
Aaron Williams from Texas is one to watch - my boy went to UT's pro-day and said that Juan Castillo was studying him hard
And Kendall Hunter is a guy I want them to get
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2011, 10:56:05 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
QuoteAdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Eagles drafted 39 OL and DL from 1999 -- Andy Reid's 1st draft -- to 2010. That was tied for most in NFL by any team from 1999-2010.
on the offensive line other than mayberry and herremans have any of them done anything
seems like the ones who played the most were acquired not via the draft (runyan, peters) not drafted by him (tra) or undrafted free agents (fraley, jj)
Shawn Andrews
i debated with myself whether to include him or not since he flamed out but yes he could be in there as well
I was going to suggest Doug Brzezinski, but he only had one year starting 16 games. I guess that makes him half as successful as Shawn Andrews.
John Welbourn?
Quote from: Hawk on April 28, 2011, 10:24:47 PM
The lockout certainly did a great job in killing this board's interest for the draft.
I think it is also just a general Eagles fatigue. Howie is an unsufferable prick and Juan Castillo as DC is just more Andy being Andy.
Bowers leg must be really farged up
i thought for sure the skins would take him
i feel so bad for that kid
take him if he's available
Yep
Eisen just pulled a "we" I think in discussing ND.
Barry Sanders sighting, awesome.
Gruden loves Temple!
Any consideration to drafting Mallet in the 3rd if he's still there, trading kolb and then trying to groom Mallet? They probably have bigger needs but it would be interesting.
That would be interesting. Didn't think he'd last into the 3rd. He's got the arm to send Pimp deep. Kafka would cry himself to sleep this week.
Its probably a dumb idea but the value would be there.
mallett is pretty much the antithesis of an andy reid qb but then again so is vick....i think if you asked reid he would much rather have kakfa than mallett
rest of the draft should be all defense or close to it
Traded pick to Ravens?
I think they get one more Olineman by the 5th.
Get the Ravens 3rd and a 6th. Whatever.
what are the chances the eagles third round pick is better than the ravens
oh i didnt even realize they were the ones that took jah reid...he has a chance to be sick...sometimes i really wish i was a raven fan....have they ever drafted a player that wasnt absolutely adorable
On the clock....
and commercial..............................
Utah State! WAC, represent.
What is a Curtis Marsh?
a cornerback who has been a running back for 21 of his 23 years on earth
do you have to be a mormon to go to utah state because that would explain this pick
Baylor, Temple, and Utah St. Pumped
you have to be a mormon to live in Utah
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 29, 2011, 09:58:58 PM
do you have to be a mormon to go to utah state because that would explain this pick
No. Don't have to be Mormon to go to BYU either.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 29, 2011, 09:46:14 PM
what are the chances the eagles third round pick is better than the ravens
oh i didnt even realize they were the ones that took jah reid...he has a chance to be sick...sometimes i really wish i was a raven fan....have they ever drafted a player that wasnt absolutely adorable
was having this discussion at work yesterday. The ravens draft every year makes me salivate and the eagles just make me sick for 6 out of 7 picks.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 29, 2011, 09:59:54 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 29, 2011, 09:58:58 PM
do you have to be a mormon to go to utah state because that would explain this pick
No. Don't have to be Mormon to go to BYU either.
You have to sign a document agreeing to live the way they do, though. Can't drink, can't smoke, can't have sex, etc.
Yeah....you have to live by their religious rules, which is what got Brandon Davies booted, but still don't have to be Mormon to attend.
The Ravens took a chance on Sergio Kindle last year and that's already a loss....turns out he's narcoleptic, must be escorted down flights of stairs, and likes to drive very drunk.
So here's what pisses me off about this draft. I'm fine with the Watkins pick. Yeah he's old but whatever, he fills a need and from all accounts can start from day 1. The Jarrett pick pisses me off the most. Maybe he turns out to be a good player...who knows. But guys like Paea and Bowers were there around the Eagles pick and they have about 30 day 3 picks so why not part with one and move up to take one of these guys instead of reaching for a guy like Jarrett? I'm fine with Jarrett but they probably could have had him in the 3rd...and if they were that worried about someone taking him early in the 3rd round why not part with one of their 30 day 3 picks to move up and get him? I look at Walsh the same way I do Lindley. So far I give this draft a C. This years draft is really weak after the first two rounds so I'm hoping they part with some laterpicks today for picks next year which is supposed to be a deep draft.
this draft was supposed to be deep...the irony is that the weakest position in the whole draft was safety
so what do the eagles do
they take a safety about two rounds before they should have
But he 'fits their system'.
So he can't tackle or play the pass?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 30, 2011, 11:04:19 AM
So he can't tackle or play the pass?
Supposedly he can lay the wood but he's not a 'sure' tackler. And he can play the pass because he's a smart football player but he doesn't have the closing speed or foot speed to keep up with fast players.
SI Projections
Danny Watkins - 2nd round
Jaiquawn Jarrett - 5th round
Curtis Marsh - 4th round
pick traded to tb
Quote from: DH on April 30, 2011, 12:26:21 PM
pick traded to tb
In exchange for the 104th pick, the Eagles receive the Bucs' 116th overall pick and a 2012 4th-round pick.
Not bad.
That is actually a steal. I hate it when they trade down, though, especially in this part of the draft. There's still some excellent players left on the board and they're going quickly.
Donovan Mcnabb...the gift that keeps on giving.
Must be that future picks have even less value than usual due to the whole draft-might-be-ruled-illegal stuff going on.
If I never hear the Goo Goo Dolls song, Iris, again as long as I live I'll be happy.
Jesus Christ... every commercial break that idiotic Chevy commercial plays.
Ugh.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 30, 2011, 12:12:07 PM
SI Projections
Danny Watkins - 2nd round
Jaiquawn Jarrett - 5th round
Curtis Marsh - 4th round
I've seen 1st round anywhere else for Watkins
on the clock...(again)
Casey Matthews
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 30, 2011, 12:12:07 PM
SI Projections
Danny Watkins - 2nd round
Jaiquawn Jarrett - 5th round
Curtis Marsh - 4th round
Casey Matthews - 7th/FA
Alex Henery - 5th round
Hey, at least they only took Henery one round too early.
OMGALLISLOST
Traded pick 153 to the Jets
Traded #22 in the 5th to the Jets. Got their 5th rounder, not sure what else.
Jets got 153, 227... Eagles 161, 194.
HOWIE GOT JOBBED
QuoteFact of the day: Pats just traded No. 193 to Eagles for No. 194. Their streak of a draft day trade each year since 2000 lives another year.[\quote]
QuoteThis could be a case of two coaches having a little fun, as Bill Belichick and Andy Reid are friends and like to wheel and deal.
How many times have the Birds gotten the better end of these deals?
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 30, 2011, 03:43:31 PM
QuoteThis could be a case of two coaches having a little fun, as Bill Belichick and Andy Reid are friends and like to wheel and deal.
So when do the birds get Brady?
I'm on my 4th Amstel with my third Jameson's getting ready for departure.
another piece of shtein interior lineman camp body.
farg you andy.
Quote from: Rome on April 30, 2011, 04:15:46 PM
I'm on my 4th Amstel with my third Jameson's getting ready for departure.
Good, that will help you enjoy the Flyers game that much more.
Six & four.
Going to see the Razorbacks in a few minutes. Maybe. They're playing at my buddy's bar right now.
zesty draft, Flyers sucked ass today. Rome, get all messed up and punch someone in the face for me at the show.
Anyone else completely unenthusiastic about this year's draft? Not just for the Eagles, the lockout makes it unlikely we'll see any of these guys play this year. Not set in stone yet, but I'm a pessimist at heart.
Obviously I'm biased but we couldn't have used a 7th round pick on the local kid who was a likely top-15 pick before missing a year due to cancer (and coming back and playing a full season last year)??
who is "we" and who is this sob story kid you're talking about?
Mark Herzlich
Played for Boston College. Dude was the Big East Defensive Player of the Year before he got the cancer and would have likely been a top 10 pick in the draft if he hadn't gotten sick.
If you watched 10 minutes of the draft yesterday you couldn't miss the story because ESPN kept re-running the piece again and again.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 30, 2011, 07:04:12 PM
zesty draft, Flyers sucked ass today. Rome, get all messed up and punch someone in the face for me at the show.
i got there late and only caught the last couple of songs. rockabilly is awesome and those guys do it like no one else.
MA!
I didn't watch ten seconds of it. Obviously, I made the right choice.
you missed the chevy commercial featuring the goo goo dolls song, iris, then.
they played it roughly ninety gazillion times over the three days. good times.
don't know that tune..unless they are covering the Breeders..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szu_bHULdq4
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on May 01, 2011, 01:56:10 AM
Obviously I'm biased but we couldn't have used a 7th round pick on the local kid who was a likely top-15 pick before missing a year due to cancer (and coming back and playing a full season last year)??
I'm sure someone will take a flyer on signing him once the lockout is lifted. But you saw guys with much more minor medical issues tumble precipitously throughout the draft. Teams are (correctly) judging the guy based on his last season, not based on what he was before the cancer. It would be a good story, but the reality is that after the positive press dies down, you've got a LB with a foot-long titanium rod in his leg on your team.
Quote from: Rome on May 01, 2011, 08:16:29 AM
Mark Herzlich
Played for Boston College. Dude was the Big East Defensive Player of the Year before he got the cancer and would have likely been a top 10 pick in the draft if he hadn't gotten sick.
If you watched 10 minutes of the draft yesterday you couldn't miss the story because ESPN kept re-running the piece again and again.
Correction--ACC Defensive POY! Also a local kid (from Wayne, went to Conestoga)
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 01, 2011, 08:33:02 AM
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on May 01, 2011, 01:56:10 AM
Obviously I'm biased but we couldn't have used a 7th round pick on the local kid who was a likely top-15 pick before missing a year due to cancer (and coming back and playing a full season last year)??
I'm sure someone will take a flyer on signing him once the lockout is lifted. But you saw guys with much more minor medical issues tumble precipitously throughout the draft. Teams are (correctly) judging the guy based on his last season, not based on what he was before the cancer. It would be a good story, but the reality is that after the positive press dies down, you've got a LB with a foot-long titanium rod in his leg on your team.
I completely understand--just think he'd have been worth a late-round pick based on his upside. Herzlich only had about a year between the end of his cancer treatments and the beginning of the season--different sport obviously but I was reading that Jon Lester said he didn't even get close to full strength until about 2 years after his treatments ended. If there's even a 10% chance he turns into the player he was before the illness it's worth using a late pick to lock his rights up, IMO (plus you can always stash him on IR for a year, which I think will end up being the case wherever he goes).
And the titanium rod thing could be a positive, like a bionic LB or something...
Quote from: Rome on May 01, 2011, 08:24:27 AM
you missed the chevy commercial featuring the goo goo dolls song, iris, then.
they played it roughly ninety gazillion times over the three days. good times.
This makes me happy I am in Afghanistan and was unable to watch
Ray Didinger brought up a good point on CSN about the linemen they drafted he was saying they are smaller than what Reid normally drafts and that these picks have Howard Mudd's stamp all over them.
I met Herzlich back in Feb. I am completely shocked he was not drafted. He is a big powerfully dude who is very impressive in person as far as attitude and comes off as a very determined individual who isnt ever going to quit. That leg must be in awful shape. Still, i expect him to be playing somewhere. There are plenty of undrafted players who have gone on to be good in the NFL.
I hope they UDFA Pat Devlin....he can't drink more than Andy Hall
Did anyone ever find out why the Eagles and Pats swapped picks in the 6th? That was weird.
Because they wanted to continue their streak of consecutive years with a trade.
Watch the Pats pick gurn into another All Pro.
WATCH!
Gurn!
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 04, 2011, 12:18:23 PM
Did anyone ever find out why the Eagles and Pats swapped picks in the 6th? That was weird.
QuoteNEW YORK — It seemed pretty odd at the time, that the Eagles and Patriots swapped pick Nos. 193 and 194 in the fifth round of the 2011 NFL Draft. What made the trade a bit more strange was that it was announced about 30 picks ahead of time, near the end of the fourth round.
As the 21st of 22 trades made during this NFL draft, it simply went like this: Eagles get pick No. 193. Patriots get pick 194. That's it.
None of us could figure out who benefited from the trade, or why it was made. But after some digging, the answers are "no one " and "just for fun."
The Patriots and Eagles apparently made this trade just for kicks. The internet rumors that the teams have conducted draft-day trades every year since Bill Belichick arrived in New England in 2000 are far from true. In fact, according to the fine folks with the Patriots, the teams have conducted four trades since the 2000 season and this is their second-ever draft-day trade.
Nonetheless, it still appears this was just for fun. Although, we have to wonder if there's a free dinner involved from Andy Reid to Belichick to grease the wheels to get the Patriots to move down that one spot.
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just seeing that screencap makes me laugh
i think thats pretty awesome. belechick is such a fleshpop he was just like, whatever take it fat guy. i bet there was a double dog dare involved.
Quote from: charlie on May 04, 2011, 12:58:52 PM
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Perfect call there, Charlie. :-D
That's Bill and Andy for you, two wild and crazy guys.
Birds have been getting descent reviews on their draft. Patriots are getting crucified. Drafted another TE. Christ, they've got like 15 as it is. Guess when you're in the big game 4 out of 7 years you can draft whomever the hell you want.
guess when you have 7 picks in the first three rounds you can double up on some positions and take what you think are the best players available...if the eagles had two firsts or two seconds this year then taking gordie howe in the first round wouldnt have been a bad pick
btw the pats also have two 1's two 2's and two 3's next year
Where are all these #1's coming from for NE? The Seymour trade?
Yeah, I think they got 2 out of that one.
Why is no one talking about Havili? Dude is going to be a stud. Watch...he will score anywhere from 4 to 8 TD's this season....75% catching.
The #1 from the Seymour trade was used this past Saturday. They have NO's #1 from the Mark Ingram trade and OAK's #2 in a 5-pick deal to get Taiwan Jones and Joseph Barksdale. Not sure where the #3 is from....?
Quote from: hbionic on May 04, 2011, 11:27:18 PM
Why is no one talking about Havili? Dude is going to be a stud. Watch...he will score anywhere from 4 to 8 TD's this season....75% catching.
Glad you brought him up. He was a beast at SC. I thought he'd go much higher.