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Here's the way I look at it:
The Flyers overachieved. Sure they're great now but they had a coach that took over midseason and barely snuck into the playoffs. Would have been great if the had won. The way it all ended was just so anti-climatic.

Phillies had the highest expectations from the fans. Howard caught looking while freak boy Wilson does his stupid pose.

People had low expectations for the Eagles this season. They were exciting but fans knew they had too many holes to make a serious run. Still, the NFC isn't exactly loaded with talent so making it to the Superbowl was not out of the realm of thought. The Vick INT was a horrible decision and pass.

good poll


1. flyers by far...it was in game six of a final...period end of story



2. the howard play was infuriating as an individual act but as a team end of the season loss i got over it relatively quickly since the phillies werent going anywhere anyway...in a way i was kinda even relieved so i didnt have to watch their god awful pathetic at bats any more


3. i had the eagles missing the playoffs and knew they were gonna lose to gb so in terms of major loss it was a blip on the radar...now has they beaten gb and lost that way the next week i would still be shaking mad right now

I was going to vote for the Flyers, but then I realized that they shouldn't have even been there in the first place. That post season run was such an awesome ride, and despite the total letdown that was that last goal, that was one of the few cases where I was happy that they were even there.

I went with the Phils because they were supposed to be the favorites and they choked hard to a team of misfits and journeymen. That season shouldn't have ended there and it still disgusts me to think about.

Phillies, then Flyers, then Eagles.

Of the 3 teams, the Phillies are the only team that didn't live up to pre-season expectations.  The expectations were there the minute that they lost to the Yanks in 09 that they would get back to the series in 2010.  These expectations only went up after getting Doc and then Oswalt at the deadline.  This was a team that won more games than any other team in baseball and they had the eventual Cy Young winner at the top of their rotation.  And then to lose a called strike 3 by one of the franchise players was just devastating. 

I listed the Flyers 2nd though because (even though I'm not a hockey guy), they not only made it to the finals, but the way they came back against Boston was historical.  This was a middle of the pack team that no one gave any serious consideration to in preseason or at the start of the postseason.  How could anyone who is a fan of Philly sports not get tied up by that run last year? 

Eagles come in last because even though they exceeded most expectations this year, they didn't dramatically exceed them.  On average, most people were thinking this was an 8-8 type season,9-7 at best.  So they only won 1-2 more games than expected and in the the difference between a W and L can often be a freak play (Giants game(s) for example).  Had the Eagles made it to the NFCCG or even the Super Bowl and then lost, I'd definitely have them ranked above the Flyers.  But losing a WC game while going for the g/w TD against a team they weren't supposed to beat anyway isn't all that painful.     

Howard was the most painful.  Didn't think the Eagles could beat the Patriots anyway, but I really thought the Phillies would have taken down the Rangers.

I don't give a shtein about, and did not watch two of those, so my vote is pretty easy to spot.

Same here...the Phillies and Flyers can go farg each other

I think Fred Phelps would have fun protesting that

I still haven't gotten over the sight of Patrick Kane cartwheeling like a flag down the ice towards his goalie after he scored that shtein ass goal.

I didn't think the Eagles had a shot in the playoffs because their defense was garbage, and although I'm sick of them, it's more because of a decade of failure, not one ill-advised pass.

The Phillies loss was the worst for me.  Them losing to the Giants wasn't even a possibility in my mind going in, and for them to lose in six, at home, after having Oswalt on the mound, is the worst loss in recent memory.

Phillies were the most painful, even if I didn't see them doing too much even if they won that game. But a motherfarging called strike on one of baseball's great sluggers? Come the farg on. Go down swinging at least. The year could have been their opportunity to mint a new dynasty but instead it was a goddamn embarrassment against a Giants team that was there for the taking.

Eagles and Flyers both had amazing stories going (the comeback and Vick's return) and would have gone down in sports lore had the Philly team been crowned champion. But the Flyers at least kept me entertained with their storybook playoff run, and I never really believed in the Eagles this season.

lol hockey? you guys are terrible

phillies as one of the worst moments in the history of philly sports

eagles was awful and just another depressing moment in the andy reid era. simply a new chapter of the seemingly never ending ongoing disappointment.

no. 3 on this list should be either the moment temple drew cornell in the ncaa tourney or the sixers falling short of j wall in the lotto

Sixers/NBA/Temple are all farging terrible.


Flyers are awesome.


Shut up.

unless you just dont care about the flyers or like the phillies A LOT more i dont see how anyone can put howards at bat ahead of leightons goal

choke was in game six of a 'conf' final where they just gave up a horrendous late run to go down in the game

leightons was in game six of the league final and came right after the flyers scored an amazing last minute goal to tie the game which sent the building shaking and had pretty much every flyer fan thinking they were going back to chicago for game seven

yeah choke was caught looking...but that atrocity over shadows the fact that no one thought he was going to get a hit anyway

basically imagine if the phillies were playing the yankees in game six of the world series and jimmy rollins just hit a game tying homer in the top of the ninth to tie game six up...then in the bottom of the ninth the yanks have two out and a man on third and ibanez drops a easy pop fly to let the world series winning run trot home

I think the question was "what was more painful for you?" not "what would igy say is the most painful?"

This poll is more painful than anything listed in this poll.

The big difference is that Leighton was a one-year "wonder" whereas Howard is the Phillies' franchise player.

Quote from: FastFreddie on January 13, 2011, 11:35:37 AM
The big difference is that Leighton was a one-year "wonder" whereas Howard is the Phillies' franchise player.

lol...what the hell does that have to do with anything

you care more about the circumstances of the individual who farged up than what the entire team potentially lost?....or are you saying that if ben francisco had struck out your answer would be different

game 6 of a final trumps any conference loss...then you throw on top of it how the flyers lost and its a no contest...again if you treat the teams equally....i suspect that there are not many if any people voting that like the flyers as much as the phillies and i think that is the mitigating factor here unless its just that people dont get it

I'd say as much as I love the Phillies, I probably watched more Flyers games last year......it's just the fact that the Flyers were never supposed to be there in the first place and it was time when I was actually "happy" with the fact that they were just there....winning it at that point would have been the best icing ever on the already excellent cake they had served up during that playoff run.

I wasn't expecting them to win it all, so when they didn't, it hurt like hell but it was bearable.
I expected the Phillies to win it all, watching them choke it away to a lesser team was disgusting and still disgusts me to think about.

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 13, 2011, 11:58:59 AM
you care more about the circumstances of the individual who farged up than what the entire team potentially lost?....or are you saying that if ben francisco had struck out your answer would be different

Yes.  The Phillies were the favorites in the NLCS and would have been in the World Series had they gotten there.  Their "best" player is at the dish with an opportunity to send it to game 7, with all the momentum on their side.  And he farging pops a squat and stares at strike 3.

The Flyers had an incredible run last year, and I was really pissed about the way it ended.  However, Leights was a microcosm of the team as a whole - overachieving but mediocre.  I considered them winning the East to be a massive bonus, and was half-expecting for the other shoe to drop.

And like I said - I don't think anyone's beating the Pats this year, and while losing at home in the wild card round sucks balls... I don't really care what the Eagles do at this point if they're not winning a Super Bowl.  And they weren't good enough on defense to win one this year.

So, the answer is the Phillies, ESPECIALLY because Howard was the choker.

the phillies had no momentum...they had just given up the go ahead run choke was like 3 for his last 80 in the playoffs with 50 strikeouts and he was facing one of the best closers in the majors with two outs ...you really didnt believe he was gonna get a hit there did you?

and who the farg the cares what a team was favored to do once you get to game six of the finals

mybe im weird but i just cant fathom the notion that a team losing in the conf finals would hurt more than a team in game six OT of the league finals simply because they were favored to get there or because a certain player was the culprit...in fact it makes me really angry that anyone would think that

flyers.

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 13, 2011, 12:35:54 PM
the phillies had no momentum...they had just given up the go ahead run choke was like 3 for his last 80 in the playoffs with 50 strikeouts and he was facing one of the best closers in the majors with two outs ...you really didnt believe he was gonna get a hit there did you?

and who the farg the cares what a team was favored to do once you get to game six of the finals

mybe im weird but i just cant fathom the notion that a team losing in the conf finals would hurt more than a team in game six OT of the league finals simply because they were favored to get there or because a certain player was the culprit...in fact it makes me really angry that anyone would think that

i can fathom it

its called baseball being much more important and better than hockey

People (me included) just don't care much about hockey.

right thats what i suspected...theres nothing wrong with that

the poll only works if you are a four for four guy or in this case a three for three guy because otherwise you are basically going to choose the team you care most about

i am four for four its just my fourth is temple hoops

and my fifth is tv

neither count

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 13, 2011, 01:04:26 PM
right thats what i suspected...theres nothing wrong with that

the poll only works if you are a four for four guy or in this case a three for three guy because otherwise you are basically going to choose the team you care most about

It's no secret that I don't like hockey and I still listed the Flyers loss above the Eagles.  The Eagles are also my #1 Philly team and they were 3rd on my list for this poll. 

Phillies
Flyers
Eagles

Anything else is wrong.

if you liked the flyers trust me theyd be number one

I like the Flyers, I just don't like hockey.

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 13, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
if you liked the flyers trust me theyd be number one

how can someone named michael leighton giving up a terrible goal on OT be more crushing that an 125 million dollar fat strike prone first baseman who hadnt hit a home run in 16 years let alone get a hit strike out with the tying running in scoring position in game 6 of the nlcs?

you knew both were inevitable. frankly vick's interception was the most surprising ... i actually kind of thought he wasnt going to mcnabb it up.

i really don't understand how this is debatable.

the Flyers one lost them a championship...this isn't rocket science people.

How did it lose them a championship when there would've been a game 7?

Quote from: SunMo on January 13, 2011, 04:04:10 PM
i really don't understand how this is debatable.

Let me be the first to welcome our newest member SunMo.

Quote from: reese125 on January 13, 2011, 04:13:40 PM
How did it lose them a championship when there would've been a game 7?

they were in the championship round as opposed to a non-championship round.  but you understood that, i feel confident in that.

Don't rush to judgment on something like that until all the facts are in.

Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 13, 2011, 02:29:40 PM
I like the Flyers, I just don't like hockey.

rooting for them when they do good and not caring when they do bad is not liking them

Quote from: MDS on January 13, 2011, 02:41:25 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 13, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
if you liked the flyers trust me theyd be number one

how can someone named michael leighton giving up a terrible goal on OT be more crushing that an 125 million dollar fat strike prone first baseman who hadnt hit a home run in 16 years let alone get a hit strike out with the tying running in scoring position in game 6 of the nlcs?

you knew both were inevitable. 

again i dont give a farg about individual players and who farged up what...i care about championships and the flyers were much closer to one

but i would still argue that both were inevitable...there wasnt a flyer fan on the planet that didnt think they were going to a game seven when hartnell scored tht miracle goal...it went right in step with the rest of their run...shootout win to just get in...beat their ultimate nemises the devils then came back from 0-3 down...you really think anyone was thinking when they tied it with a minute left that "oh shtein heres comes a leighton softie"...farg no...we were thinking here we go again this team is ridiculous...game seven is ON

ask me now if it surprises me that leighton did what he did and i tell you no...but at the time it was a far worse ending

also choke i had zero confidence in...did i think he was going to go down looking...of course not...and individually taking all the other factors out of it that was a worse way to lose a game than leighton...but as far as the teams go the flyers loss was much more devastating

it just cant be

no matter if youre a 4 for 4 guy or just an eagles bandwagon fan hockey doesnt mean as much as baseball

They're both pretty damn worthless.

i have much more respect for gf...hes a bottom line guy....lil guy likes to promote his hatred of hockey......you dont have to like it but shut the farg up about it

its not about what you or i think

look at the general interest levels of each team and each sport

yeah i dont care about anyone that isnt four for four

well then i guess you and a lot of black people arent gonna talk anymore

1 -  Flyers. Thought they were destined after that amazing comeback.

2 - Eagles. This season was so unexpected and the magic Vick had all year, I thought for sure they could beat any team, except maybe Patriots or Steelers.

3 - Phillies . The Giants were the better team last year. Phils blew their load in September.

Quote from: MDS on January 14, 2011, 01:21:02 AM
well then i guess you and a lot of black people arent gonna talk anymore

i mean ill conversate with non 4 for 4'ers....ill even hang out with them...its not like i want you to die...but if you did i would not be mad if you ended up in hell

Something drastic has happened here between these 2 since FF's video.

It's staged