My prediction: MJD leaves game early with injury. His backup runs for 200 yards and 4 TD's.
why is this stupid game at 4
FOX cut a deal with CBS to guarantee them the afternoon ratings win?
-3
44 1/2
apparently that crap stadium is now called EverBank Field
No, seriously, what did they name it?
blackout stadium
glad its at 4. they might actually air it here in nyc since the giants play at 1 and the jets are on sunday night.
We don't get any late game here on FOX next Sunday. It will be either the bar or errands for ol' Freddie.
Run errands for guys at the bar. Make a little extra money.
I also have two neighbors with the Ticket, so I may just invest in a 12-pack and mooch.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 20, 2010, 12:30:46 PM
I also have two neighbors with the Ticket, so I may just invest in a 12-pack and mooch.
keystone light.
PBR FTW
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 20, 2010, 12:13:44 PM
glad its at 4. they might actually air it here in nyc since the giants play at 1 and the jets are on sunday night.
great chance you get it
fox has the double header and only two games at four...eagles and the skins at rams
im assuming eagles would get priority in markets unrelated to either game
CBS has the DH
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2010, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 20, 2010, 12:13:44 PM
glad its at 4. they might actually air it here in nyc since the giants play at 1 and the jets are on sunday night.
great chance you get it
fox has the double header and only two games at four...eagles and the skins at rams
im assuming eagles would get priority in markets unrelated to either game
i wonder how they even decide that? eagles jags and skins rams are probably equal in terms of importantance to the giants market. probably based on what gets higher ratings which at this point is the eagles with the QB controversy (at least in the media's eyes).
i dont think anyone knows how they decide
i think ny def gets the eagles because their tv market runs into nj and even tho its not south jersey its still a lot closer to philly than dc and i think they will want it on to have all the central and north jersey eagle fans tune in
also when all things are equal giant fans care more about the eagles than the skins
i have no idea how they decide which games to move to 4 (not 415), sometimes its pretty random.
the jaguars might have requested it because of some kind of promotion or something, fox may have some kind of plan to filter certain markets with what else they have at 100...this one really doesnt make any sense. they probably just selected two games at random and said ok you guys are moving to 4.
i thought 415 = national game and west coast games
and 405 = east coast games
no?
no not even close
415 = national game everyone gets except for the home markets of the 400 games
one network gets 100/415 i.e. the dh
the other gets 100/400 where you get one of the games....generally the 400 game is hosted by a west coast team but sometimes of course they move an east coast team back for whatever reason.
the nfls tv policies are incredibly outdated and havent changed in forever. but since they make so much cash and ratings are going up every year, they aint changing nothing.
ny market definitely gets it, which is good because if i have to spend another sunday at the bar listening to dudes fantasy football teams, someones gonna die.
Quote from: KDS on September 20, 2010, 02:26:10 PM
415 = national game everyone gets except for the home markets of the 400 games
wrong....there are 415 games that arent the national broadcast
as for what games get 415 and 405 it does appear to be random
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2010, 02:30:48 PM
Quote from: KDS on September 20, 2010, 02:26:10 PM
415 = national game everyone gets except for the home markets of the 400 games
wrong....there are 415 games that arent the national broadcast
as for what games get 415 and 405 it does appear to be random
lol ok im sorry the 415 block...you get a game from there, generally theres 1 overtly obvious game that 80-90% of the country get
but no there is a major difference between 415 and 405. for example a typical 405 game is rams/raiders and jaguars/broncos while something like pats/jets and eagles/packers gets pushed back to 415
Quote from: Die-Hard on September 20, 2010, 02:27:13 PM
ny market definitely gets it, which is good because if i have to spend another sunday at the bar listening to dudes fantasy football teams, someones gonna die.
its funny you bring this up because i was just saying to some people yesterday how awesome the eagle bar is in DC and one of the reasons is because its pretty much completely void of ff speak...people are there to actually watch a football game
theres nothing more annoying than fantasy football talk anywhere but especially during your teams game
ff speak is only acceptable
a. when you are talking to another person in your league
b. monday thru saturday
i wanna crow bar people in the face who say sunday after their team lost - "at least im gonna win my fantasy game"
instead you say "at least i won my bet for the Eagles to lose"
I saw a guy at the bar yesterday on an iPad the whole time. I seriously wanted to kick him in the face.
actually i dont even think about my bet after the game...only before and then later in the week when i collect....its kind of like saying you hope they lose to get a better draft pick...its something you think before the game and then down the road you say im glad they lost that game
but on sunday and depending on the severity of the loss X amount of days to follow i dont think of anything but murder and or suicide
Droppin some knowledge for yous: The Jags are the only team in the NFL the Eagles have never beat
at least we wont be seeing an eagles qb puking in the florida heat
You obviously aren't familiar with concussion symptoms then.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 20, 2010, 02:42:15 PM
I saw a guy at the bar yesterday on an iPad the whole time. I seriously wanted to kick him in the face.
You saw me? You were in Hawaii? I actually brought it so the philly contingent could watch the Phillies game. Damn sportsbar had no internet service. Following a game like yesterdays on a blackberry is beyond painful.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 20, 2010, 03:00:14 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 20, 2010, 02:42:15 PM
I saw a guy at the bar yesterday on an iPad the whole time. I seriously wanted to kick him in the face.
You saw me? You were in Hawaii? I actually brought it so the philly contingent could watch the Phillies game. Damn sportsbar had no internet service. Following a game like yesterdays on a blackberry is beyond painful.
If you are of Asian descent, the guy might be your long lost brother.
if computers had sex asians would never leave their house...cept to hang out in seedy pool halls
No. My long lost brother looks more like SeaBiscuit.
o/u on the number of plays until Vick comes in for wildcat = 3
I'll take the under.
Quote from: SunMo on September 20, 2010, 03:46:01 PM
o/u on the number of plays until Vick comes in for wildcat = 3
Does it have to be a "wildcat" per se?
In other news, I think we should label the Vick packages the "caged dog" or the "genital wart surprise."
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 20, 2010, 03:48:56 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 20, 2010, 03:46:01 PM
o/u on the number of plays until Vick comes in for wildcat = 3
Does it have to be a "wildcat" per se?
In other news, I think we should label the Vick packages the "caged dog" or the "genital wart surprise."
i liked that joke when people did it the day he signed.
andy reid is fat
Shame the Ron Mexico thing died out. Could have been some good wildcat material with that.
Quote from: SunMo on September 20, 2010, 03:46:01 PM
o/u on the number of plays until Vick comes in for wildcat = 3
wildcat kickoff baby
Quote from: SunMo on September 20, 2010, 02:33:26 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 20, 2010, 01:27:08 PM
CBS has the DH
they just had it week 2
they usually get weeks 2 and 3 to make up for never having it in week 1 (due to US Open)
the 4:05/4:15 thing.....the station that doesn't have the DH starts their late games at 4:05 because they don't have to worry about any 1:00 games running over into them. As for who gets picked in what timeslots, obviously Mountain and Pacific teams start late, and the 49ers and Raiders can't be on at the same time either (just like Giants/Jets). Games like this one and Skins/Rams starting at 4? Dunno. The Chiefs have a home game at 1, so maybe that's why St. Louis' one is late? I thought maybe the Jacksonville one was due to heat, but their week 1 game against Denver was 1:00. With Arizona having a dome now, I think Miami is the only one affected by weather (they don't have a home day game until week 7). So yeah...no idea why this is a 4:00 start. Maybe they just took the two crappiest games and put them late since they'd have low viewership...
...
they're starting the games later because it's 175 degrees out at midday in florida in september.
i wasn't going to go but i found out it's not going to be televised here in daytona so i have to go to that awful place one more time.
then why did the game 2 weeks ago start at 1?
there is no reason. they had to move a couple games to 4 and they chose this and the taterskins one. somethings just are.
no theres a reason....its just that no one but the nfl and the networks know what it is
Due to the early CBS games, the late FOX games will only be televised basically in the mid-southeast, with the notable exceptions of Boston and most of NY state (including NYC). Guess they figured the Skins still draw in those areas. Maybe they figured out they can draw more potential eyeballs to the Dallas/Houston game at 1 than at 4, who knows. They'll be showing it across most of MA and the southwest.
Just a guess, without having access to the numbers they crunch.
The PHI@JAX game is a turd and may not be on outside of the Philly area (I doubt it will be on in JAX).
Seriously, who gives a shtein?
They are going to run the ball non-stop and we probably won't be able to stop it.
I'm more interested in seeing how Kolb responds to the first game than what we do on d.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 20, 2010, 09:12:52 PM
Seriously, who gives a shtein?
again with the roid rage.
pennsylvania east of pittsburgh
philly
jacksonville
thats it...thats the list
new york gets the skins
also ron pitts and john lynch
this thing better be on channelsurfing
go to a bar fool
or cantina
or whatever they have down there
thats what i do even when they are on tv
why would you ever watch a game on a computer
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2010, 04:24:33 PM
go to a bar fool
or cantina
or whatever they have down there
thats what i do even when they are on tv
why would you ever watch a game on a computer
Lol at Cantina.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2010, 04:24:33 PM
go to a bar fool
or cantina
or whatever they have down there
thats what i do even when they are on tv
why would you ever watch a game on a computer
cause i work from about 3-9 on sundays
noon games are for the bar, national games are on at work...this is the one where i get got
time for a life re-evaluation
23 years too late
Looks like you'll miss out on the game and the halftime donkey show. That kinda sucks.
The Skins will be shown on Delmarva, I'm shore. I'm not as worried about it as I would have been in the past. When I gave up the Ticket I knew there would be weeks I wouldn't be able to watch them. I'll go to the bar or get them later in the week on NFL replay if I want to see them that bad.
I'm just not that worried about it right now in the beginning of the season as this years prolly' gonna' be a wash anyway. I hope I'm wrong and they give me something to get excited about towards the end of the season.
CSN Daily News just said that Vick is starting Sunday?
The Philadelphia Eagles today announced that head coach Andy Reid has named Michael Vick as the team's starting quarterback. 3 minutes ago via web
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Yeah that's what Barkaan was saying.
He was trying to bait Pimp into saying something dumb, Pimp just kept smiling and saying "i'm excited for whoevers out there, and to win some games"
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.html
article isnt up, but its in the header
Just heard it on Mikey Miss.
WTF? :boom
haha... holy jesus what a fiasco this team has become.
Seriously... what the motherfargen fargen farg!! I can't take this fargen bullshtein. farg Reid farg Vick. :boom :boom :boom :boom
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 21, 2010, 05:43:12 PM
CSN Daily News just said that Vick is starting Sunday?
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Un farging believable!! Can someone up there please off this jagoff [Reid]. Hell take care of Vick too while your at it.
I gotta admit, this season keeps getting more interesting each week. And here I thought it was gonna be casper milquetoast while goin 7-9.
Hoyda thunk it?
Maybe Reid just doesn't think Kolb is fully recovered yet?
Nah, this is a conspiracy!
lolololololololololololol
Well, this was unexpected.
Quote from: charlie on September 21, 2010, 06:14:01 PM
Maybe Reid just doesn't think Kolb is fully recovered yet?
I'm gonna slap you if you try that logic shtein again.
farg it. he's been fun to watch. lets go vick.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 21, 2010, 06:15:28 PM
lets go vick.
Yeah. Break a leg Vick. farg it....break em both.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 21, 2010, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: charlie on September 21, 2010, 06:14:01 PM
Maybe Reid just doesn't think Kolb is fully recovered yet?
I'm gonna slap you if you try that logic shtein again.
According to Mort on SC the change has nothing to do with Kolb's brain owie.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 21, 2010, 06:15:28 PM
farg it. he's been fun to watch. lets go vick.
this right here.
farg it. farg all of them especially reid.
I am in favor of this.
Good call in dealing 5, eh? The Chosen One ends up playing a half.
Eagles win the East now.
If Vick is the starter fine. If it's cause he's better the Kolb, fine. So Fire Reid's dumb fat Walrus ass for betting the house and trading #5 to D.C. I really fargin hate that fat tun of goo.
Jacksonville would have been a good game to get Kolb back in there.
you have to think the decision behind this is all about the less than steller start by the nfc east combined with the atrocious offensive line
the amazing part of this is not that andy is going with vick but that in less than 24 hours did a complete 180....has he ever done anything even remotely like this....its just crazy because its pretty much against everything hes been about...which is stubborness loyalty and keeping his word
john clayton is just crushing the eagles on sportscenter...ive never really seen him go at someone this hard
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2010, 06:35:05 PM
you have to think the decision behind this is all about the less than steller start by the nfc east combined with the atrocious offensive line
the amazing part of this is not that andy is going with vick but that in less than 24 hours did a complete 180....has he ever done anything even remotely like this....its just crazy because its pretty much against everything hes been about...which is stubborness loyalty and keeping his word
Good point, Maybe its the man pushing his fat ass to do it.
Can someone please kill andy reid? Please.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2010, 06:36:46 PM
john clayton is just crushing the eagles on sportscenter...ive never really seen him go at someone this hard
What did he say? Ive got it on mute because I am waiting for Reid's PC
wow
gotta say i didn't see this one coming
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2010, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2010, 06:36:46 PM
john clayton is just crushing the eagles on sportscenter...ive never really seen him go at someone this hard
What did he say? Ive got it on mute because I am waiting for Reid's PC
that they shouldnt have traded for mcnabb and now they are paying for it by having to do a qb scramble
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 21, 2010, 06:41:13 PM
Good point, Maybe its the man pushing his fat ass to do it.
i dont think theres any question that banner inc. is behind this
howie rosemans ascension has undercut andys influence more than anyone imagined
This failure in leadership and management does not affect my opinion on the McNabb trade: good riddance 5.
Lol so howie cut 5 then 1 second later shoots kolb in the back.
No. This is andy getting desperate
Quote from: Diomedes on September 21, 2010, 06:46:46 PM
This failure in leadership and management does not affect my opinion on the McNabb trade: good riddance 5.
I just am pissed they traded him in the division. :boom asshats.
This is a weird move and probably a low blow to Kolb, but Vick>>>>>McNabb so it doesn't matter that we traded McNabb.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2010, 06:24:36 PM
I am in favor of this.
Good call in dealing 5, eh? The Chosen One ends up playing a half.
Eagles win the East now.
Great logic there, dummy.
This is one thing that I actually believe Reid on for once. He said Vick is just playing too well. Not to mention I don't think the Eagles with win with Kolb or McNabb last week. There oline is brutal in pass protection.
I have to say Vick does look better as a passer than he ever has. This makes for an interesting questions leading into the future. Does Vick get a new contract and Kolb shipped?
I pretty much assume this is for the season. Reid doesn't seem like a coach that will keep flipping QBs. He also probably didn't want to lose the locker room. Vick has played pretty damn good and at this point gives them the best opportunity to win.
If Vick plays well, anyone think they re-sign him and deal Kolb?
Quote from: KDS on September 21, 2010, 06:47:34 PM
Lol so howie cut 5 then 1 second later shoots kolb in the back.
No. This is andy getting desperate
yeah of all the times he could have gotten desperate over the last 11 years he does it less than a year after signing a contract extension in a week 2 meaningless game against jacksonville
if you cant see banner inc. all over this then you dont know this team or their coach for the last decade
This team is hilarious.
BTW, this shouldn't be tied to McNabb at all. They weren't re-signing McNabb to a 3+ year deal. Period. If they blew it with Kolb it's because they suck and Kolb sucks but shouldn't (though it inevitably will) be linked to Donnie Mac.
What could have changed so much in 24 hours? Did Banner/Lurie/Roseman really exert that much pressure, or did Reid just realize the entire NFC blows?
Has Reid or anyone else said a word about this yet publicly?
Quote from: Rome on September 21, 2010, 06:52:50 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2010, 06:24:36 PM
I am in favor of this.
Good call in dealing 5, eh? The Chosen One ends up playing a half.
Eagles win the East now.
Great logic there, dummy.
Try to follow me
Trading McNabb was supposed to be alllll about Kolb and him being the future. So now they have the quickest hook ever on benching a guy.
By naming Vick over Kolb, I believe they will win the East now.
Get it now?
its a win either way.
Vick plays well and fun for all or it blows up then Reid goes to the turd house that much quicker. If anyone thought the next two-season outcome wasn't gonna end up all marion campbell/richie kotite-like hasn't been paying attention 20 of the last 30 years
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 21, 2010, 06:56:15 PM
Has Reid or anyone else said a word about this yet publicly?
Supposedly Reid is on conf. call with media as of 6:30 p.m.
Quote from: Rome on September 21, 2010, 06:52:50 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2010, 06:24:36 PM
I am in favor of this.
Good call in dealing 5, eh? The Chosen One ends up playing a half.
Eagles win the East now.
Great logic there, dummy.
McNabb is the greatest QB in NFL history didn't you get the memo?
mcnabb is a farging piece of shtein taterskin.
farg him even harder than reid gets it in the asspipe.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 21, 2010, 06:59:24 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 21, 2010, 06:52:50 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2010, 06:24:36 PM
I am in favor of this.
Good call in dealing 5, eh? The Chosen One ends up playing a half.
Eagles win the East now.
Great logic there, dummy.
McNabb is the greatest QB in NFL history didn't you get the memo?
And Kevin Kolb invented the QB position, am I right?
Trading McNabb, a proven vet, for a guy who you give ONE HALF to is dumb.
But being the non-believer in Kolb that I am, I support them naming Vick since McNabb is gone
Or it could be that Vick has played pretty damn good the last game and a half?
you're even worse with the mcnabb worship than you are with the wife beater myers jive
:-D
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 21, 2010, 07:02:12 PM
Or it could be that Vick has played pretty damn good the last game and a half?
He has.
Absolutely. Which is why I said on Sunday he should be the guy.
But I am still of the belief that they shouldn't have dealt 5. And this only makes them look worse because Kolb couldn't keep Vick at bay.
kobb has sucked since July. All the critics saying benching is wrong based on "only a half" must have not watched preseason. What we saw first half of GB was what we saw all august. Much as coaches spews chunks about "meaningless" preseason, kolbs preseason and his first half were one in the same. He should have had likely 8-10 picks more just cause of dumb luck.
at this point Vick should play til he can't.
He is better fit to play with this team than McNabb at this point. The oline is awful and McNabb can't scramble like he used to.
Ried is on xfinity right now with Spewdaro saying what a great relationship Vick and Kolb have, and how he thought the best thing for the team was to start Vick.
now if reid said omar playing instead of stewie, then i'm upset
nate allen has twice as many ints as donovan does touchdown passes
yeah the eagles should have kept a 34 year old bed wetter instead
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 21, 2010, 07:05:18 PM
He is better fit to play with this team than McNabb at this point. The oline is awful and McNabb can't scramble like he used to.
Well again thats some Reid failure right there. Reid and Howie The Talent Guy for assembling such a zesty OL.
Either way, what a farging freak show they've created.
Reid says he's been going over this for the last three days, and met with Howie today. He also said he's been talking to Kolb and wanted him to know he's still a big Kolb fan.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2010, 07:08:39 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 21, 2010, 07:05:18 PM
He is better fit to play with this team than McNabb at this point. The oline is awful and McNabb can't scramble like he used to.
Well again thats some Reid failure right there. Reid and Howie The Talent Guy for assembling such a zesty OL.
Either way, what a farging freak show they've created.
This is I can agree with 100%.
Philly has been the equivalent of the NFL zoo for the last year.
Quote from: shorebird on September 21, 2010, 07:10:06 PM
Reid says he's been going over this for the last three days, and met with Howie today. He also said he's been talking to Kolb and wanted him to know he's still a big Kolb fan.
he hasnt been going over anything...he flat out in no uncertain terms said sunday AND yesterday that cobb was the starter....then he met with howie and the rest is history
Tick tock, Andy.
"You cant rotate two or three QBs"
Saying that he never thought Vick would be playing at such a high level, more or less gushing over him.
ha..this is fantastic
anybody still think its not all about winning games in the nfl?
people act like the eagles organization invested so much (the future) into Kolb. If you still believe that...check his salary.
he played great against the 2-14 lions.
we'll see how he plays once the opposition improves.
Well he played pretty well for a half against what most consider to be a Super Bowl contender. Granted they weren't preparing for him all week...but he still played well.
To be fair, he played pretty well against the Packers too.
I don't expect the Eagles to be good, but who is in the NFC?
Green Bay and New Orleans? Neither is unbeatable, everyone in the NFC East and West suck right now. Falcons?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2010, 07:12:22 PM
Quote from: shorebird on September 21, 2010, 07:10:06 PM
Reid says he's been going over this for the last three days, and met with Howie today. He also said he's been talking to Kolb and wanted him to know he's still a big Kolb fan.
he hasnt been going over anything...he flat out in no uncertain terms said sunday AND yesterday that cobb was the starter....then he met with howie and the rest is history
Yeah, this is some crazy shtein.
shtein I dont think Howie had much to do with anything...more like Lurie.
Would the Eagles make this move only to not re-sign Vick at the end of the year?
He has to be the guy for the near future at least, right? Assuming he keeps this up.
if he plays like he did against the lions against the better teams in the nfl then the eagles are a playoff team and they're much better than they would have been with kolb.
again, a lot of that has to do with the horrific o-line they're trotting out there now, but still...
GO PHILLIES!
Quote from: shorebird on September 21, 2010, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2010, 07:12:22 PM
Quote from: shorebird on September 21, 2010, 07:10:06 PM
Reid says he's been going over this for the last three days, and met with Howie today. He also said he's been talking to Kolb and wanted him to know he's still a big Kolb fan.
he hasnt been going over anything...he flat out in no uncertain terms said sunday AND yesterday that cobb was the starter....then he met with howie and the rest is history
Yeah, this is some crazy shtein.
its crazy in that andy reid doesnt seem like the kind of guy that would let this happen...but not crazy in that you could see the writing on the wall with the jettison of heckert and mcnabb....both huge andy guys
the question now is does andy finish out his new deal
Quote from: Rome on September 21, 2010, 07:29:26 PM
if he plays like he did against the lions against the better teams in the nfl then the eagles are a playoff team and they're much better than they would have been with kolb.
again, a lot of that has to do with the horrific o-line they're trotting out there now, but still...
They could have kept McNabb and been that good. I thought this year was Kolbs to win the job for the future or lose it. Thats what the whole offseason supposedly pointed too and thats what we've all been told by Eagles brass.
Now they do this, and everything up in the air.
Quote from: Rome on September 21, 2010, 07:29:26 PM
if he plays like he did against the lions against the better teams in the nfl then the eagles are a playoff team and they're much better than they would have been with kolb.
again, a lot of that has to do with the horrific o-line they're trotting out there now, but still...
no matter how he plays and im far from a vick believer but if nothing else the games just became infintely more watchable...altho id rather go 3-13 with cobb than 8-8 with vick
this has 100% to do with the o-line. this is just a way for andy to not have to admit it sucks so bad. we've seen kolb with this o-line and we've seen vick not need an o-line. easy stuff.
This is crazy and honestly I don't even know what to think. The Eagles have certainly been entertaining off the field since January.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 21, 2010, 07:34:14 PM
this has 100% to do with the o-line. this is just a way for andy to not have to admit it sucks so bad. we've seen kolb with this o-line and we've seen vick not need an o-line. easy stuff.
if this were true andy wouldnt have talked cobb up as the starter for the last two days....he would have named vick the starter.....or waited a couple days and then named vick...the offensive line has been a known disaster since the bengal game
Quote from: phattymatty on September 21, 2010, 07:34:14 PM
this has 100% to do with the o-line. this is just a way for andy to not have to admit it sucks so bad. we've seen kolb with this o-line and we've seen vick not need an o-line. easy stuff.
andy doesnt have to admit anything...media heads can just pop the tape in
if you're benching kolb for the season because you're afraid of your future qb getting killed behind that horrid o-line--thats a Hoyda excuse and fire juan castillo
multi-millions of dollars are spent on 1st rd qbs with the most horrific o-lines in the nfl and they get sacked to shtein....but you still trot the guy out there for 2 reasons--get experience and try and win games..apparently to them kolb cant do that. andys ego is way to big to try and lose games.
This only makes sense if they win it all this year. And it could be an epic train wreck.
They can't know if Kolb is serviceable, or even salvageable, from less than one half.
Maybe Reid et al. have determined Kolb can't succeed behind this line, and that may be true.
But how can you repair this relationship at this point? Kolb is gone next year (assuming there is one), and then what?
Better hope for a trophy in 2010, because it ain't happening in 2011.
Kolb is done in Philly now. Period.
If they try to start him next year or for an extended period of time this year short of Vick's leg falling off, then this organization is even worse than I thought.
after this...how could you even not at least think they wouldnt start kolb next season?
where the hell is his trade value now...one half of a concussion?
Quote from: MMH on September 21, 2010, 07:40:19 PM
This only makes sense if they win it all this year. And it could be an epic train wreck.
They can't know if Kolb is serviceable, or even salvageable, from less than one half.
Maybe Reid et al. have determined Kolb can't succeed behind this line, and that may be true.
But how can you repair this relationship at this point? Kolb is gone next year (assuming there is one), and then what?
Better hope for a trophy in 2010, because it ain't happening in 2011.
That's why I have to think Vick is here for the long haul.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 21, 2010, 07:41:30 PM
Kolb is done in Philly now. Period.
If they try to start him next year or for an extended period of time this year short of Vick's leg falling off, then this organization is even worse than I thought.
I agree with this to a point. If Vick plays like this for the rest of the season there is no way this team lets him go any where.
Maybe they suck so hard that they will, but I can't believe that.
If Kolb is your guy, you have to find out this year. Take your lumps, see how he plays and go with it. The team isn't good enough to just say "we're close, go with Vick". Delaying Kolb ANOTHER year and destroying his confidence and his standing in the locker room and going to him next year would be beyond stupid.
You run out Vick. If he plays well you re-sign him. If not, you draft a QB in the 1st round.
That is assuming Kolb really can't play....no one knows at this point though.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 21, 2010, 07:46:46 PM
The team isn't good enough to just say "we're close, go with Vick".
I got a 100 spot that says that is exactly what Reid said at the round table before making this decision after watching the rest of the NFC east collapse this weekend
Which is why they should have stuck with him and found out. They aren't going anywhere anyway, so no harm in that. I just don't see how you can take the job from him just to give it back to him next year, and that isn't an indictment on his ability because I have no clue if he can play. I'm just not sure how they can justify doing that.
so igy... are you going to jax now?
Quote from: reese125 on September 21, 2010, 07:49:46 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 21, 2010, 07:46:46 PM
The team isn't good enough to just say "we're close, go with Vick".
I got a 100 spot that says that is exactly what Reid said at the round table before making this decision after watching the rest of the NFC east collapse this weekend
It could be. Like I said earlier, the rest of the NFC is hot garbage. I just don't think the Eagles are any good either.
they'll be better with stewie back in there.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 21, 2010, 07:51:41 PM
Quote from: reese125 on September 21, 2010, 07:49:46 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 21, 2010, 07:46:46 PM
The team isn't good enough to just say "we're close, go with Vick".
I got a 100 spot that says that is exactly what Reid said at the round table before making this decision after watching the rest of the NFC east collapse this weekend
It could be. Like I said earlier, the rest of the NFC is hot garbage. I just don't think the Eagles are any good either.
agree....its all about entertainment purposes. has been since vick stepped foot out of jail and back on to the turf
Yep and that's where I have an issue with myself. Rationally, I think sticking with Kolb makes more sense, at least for another game. I can't say watching Vick isn't far more entertaining though.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 21, 2010, 07:46:46 PM
You run out Vick. If he plays well you re-sign him. If not, you draft a QB in the 1st round.
and hour and a half ago you would have said you run out cobb no matter how good vick has been to see what youve got....but now cobb is done for good in philly?
it wouldnt surprise me in the least if vick is zesty and they lose to jacksonville cobb starts vs the skins...vick was a pubic hair away from three or four turnovers in the detroit game and hes probably due for one of those games where he tosses a couple bad picks and has a fumble or two
with the coach and the front office on such different pages there no way to predict or make definitive statements about anything at this point
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 21, 2010, 06:53:16 PM
This is one thing that I actually believe Reid on for once. He said Vick is just playing too well. Not to mention I don't think the Eagles with win with Kolb or McNabb last week. There oline is brutal in pass protection.
I have to say Vick does look better as a passer than he ever has. This makes for an interesting questions leading into the future. Does Vick get a new contract and Kolb shipped?
I pretty much assume this is for the season. Reid doesn't seem like a coach that will keep flipping QBs. He also probably didn't want to lose the locker room. Vick has played pretty damn good and at this point gives them the best opportunity to win.
This sums up my feelings as well. I don't think they realized what they had with Vick and he's played as good as could be expected. If Kolb doesn't get hurt and does what Vick's done the past 2 weeks we're not having this conversation. Vick's only 4 years older and missed 2 years of his prime, so he's like a sub-30 year old QB. This move especially makes sense with the current climate of the NFC East, why wait and see what you have with Kolb when you already know what you have with Vick. I'm %100 in agreement with everything Reid has done with this, and I hate the fat farger.
The only disagreement I have is him coming out and saying Kolb is his starter, unless it was a little gamesmanship on his part. Though I doubt he is that smart.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2010, 07:55:21 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 21, 2010, 07:46:46 PM
You run out Vick. If he plays well you re-sign him. If not, you draft a QB in the 1st round.
and hour and a half ago you would have said you run out cobb no matter how good vick has been to see what youve got....but now cobb is done for good in philly?
it wouldnt surprise me in the least if vick is zesty and they lose to jacksonville cobb starts vs the skins...vick was a pubic hair away from three or four turnovers in the detroit game and hes probably due for one of those games where he tosses a couple bad picks and has a fumble or two
with the coach and the front office on such different pages there no way to predict or make definitive statements about anything at this point
Ok, let me clarify, *that is what I would do.
At this point, after trading McNabb in the division, signing Vick, announcing Kolb as the starter and 24 hours later making it Vick, I have no farging clue what the Eagles ultimately will do. I don't see how you can go back to Kolb, not because of what I think of him, but because of this situation. Doesn't mean they won't.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 21, 2010, 08:00:55 PMI have no farging clue what the Eagles ultimately will do. I don't see how you can go back to Kolb...because of this situation. Doesn't mean they won't.
I didn't imagine they'd go with Vick again, but lo and behold. Who fargin' knows what these jokers are thinking.
what i can't figure is what did reid say to kolb when he made up his mind (or it was made up for him)?
i mean... "you're my guy, you're my guy, you're my g... uh, vick's starting from here out. sorry kid."
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 21, 2010, 08:00:55 PM
I don't see how you can go back to Kolb, not because of what I think of him, but because of this situation. Doesn't mean they won't.
going to vick was the hard part....going back to cobb is nothing...cobb is the future after all and vick is a free agent
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 21, 2010, 08:00:46 PM
The only disagreement I have is him coming out and saying Kolb is his starter, unless it was a little gamesmanship on his part. Though I doubt he is that smart.
it wasnt gamesmenship....he said cobb was his man...and not just right after the game in some sort of kneejerk reaction...not that andy has EVER had a kneejerk reaction as its just not him...but he also more than a day later was still saying it...then he gets called into the office with howie and vick is suddenly the starter....it couldnt be more clear what happened
I give Reid credit on this one. Vick definitely gives this team the best chance to win right now. That said I would think that he wouldn't even consider this unless he has some designs on signing Vick long-term. Hey, it's been entertaining if nothing else.
howie traded 5 to go with kolb
now he throws the hammer down on kolb to go with vick
so howie is kneejerk and irrational?
you don't for a second honestly believe that howie farging roseman is in charge, do you?
seriously...whats with this howie making decisions crap?
Quote from: Rome on September 21, 2010, 08:06:52 PM
you don't for a second honestly believe that howie farging roseman is in charge, do you?
him and banner obviously are...this has been known for a while now....they are two peas in a pod....dont tell me you think andy is running shtein?
howie is banner and banner runs the show
though im not sure how relenting of power andy is on decisions like this that have nothing to do with the front office. i can see roseman sending memos and calling meetings but i just dont by andy being a yes man to upstairs on these kinds of calls.
though it is strange that he, for the first time ever, went against his word like 12 hours later. it doesnt make any sense and goes against everything weve come to believe about andy.
Anyone checked in with the other CF to make sure things are okay?
Maybe he's smoking what the kids left behind?
BTW, Minor's already done. Go Phils.
also forgot to mention Kill Whitey
vick and team beat jax, then vick vs skins for best game entertainment value - not kobbsy. farg the wild boar killer, farg the following week and farg next year. Win now - how many years of this shtein do you have to watch not to believe that?
an remember andy also benched mcnabb in the middle of a game no less...
when it comes to players playing on the field thats going to come from reid..bet on that.
what makes anyone think that banner the money/contracts guy came skipping down to andys office and said, "yo andy..you have to play vick now he is so much better and do it now."
Quote from: JackStraw on September 21, 2010, 08:13:21 PM
vick and team beat jax, then vick vs skins for best game entertainment value - not kobbsy. farg the wild boar killer, farg the following week and farg next year. Win now - how many years of this shtein do you have to watch not to believe that?
Winning this year isn't going to happen no matter who they have at quarterback.
Quote from: KDS on September 21, 2010, 08:11:06 PM
howie is banner and banner runs the show
though im not sure how relenting of power andy is on decisions like this that have nothing to do with the front office. i can see roseman sending memos and calling meetings but i just dont by andy being a yes man to upstairs on these kinds of calls.
though it is strange that he, for the first time ever, went against his word like 12 hours later. it doesnt make any sense and goes against everything weve come to believe about andy.
100% accurate.
this move is so out of character for the fat man. just unthinkable even two years ago.
Quote from: KDS on September 21, 2010, 08:11:06 PM
howie is banner and banner runs the show
though im not sure how relenting of power andy is on decisions like this that have nothing to do with the front office. i can see roseman sending memos and calling meetings but i just dont by andy being a yes man to upstairs on these kinds of calls.
though it is strange that he, for the first time ever, went against his word like 12 hours later. it doesnt make any sense and goes against everything weve come to believe about andy.
it was pretty well known that heckert was andys guy...and banner inc. sent him away and replaced him with joes personally groomed right hand henchman in howie
and we know how much andy loved donovan...when he got dealt it was widely rumored that andy was probably against it and was definitely against him going inside the division
when this went down all i could think about were all those stories about howie trying to strong arm all the veteran gm's around the league and make a name for his sorry little self...hes napoleanic in the eaxct same vein as banner and is complexin all over andys ass
longest weekly discussion thread ever
I listened to the press conference and Andy said that Kolb sitting the bench behind Vick will actually make him better than if he were playing.
Yeah...
Bigger news than usual.
I highly doubt that Howie had any decision in this. Nor Banner or Lurie.
Maybe Reid was convinced by the staff after film review? Did Marty campaign for Vick? Did Reid get talked out of Kolb by him?
Wild to see him make a decision like this.
First he says that running the ball was good and now this a day later. Bizzarro Andy
but why would andy listen to him
its one thing for roseman to call in commands which i 100% believe but he cant physically make andy bench kolb for vick. he can strong arm mcnabb away, he can prove a point and trade him in the division to show how smart he is.
so what. has andy gone soft? does he fear for his job? one thing i know about football coaches is they are all insane control freaks and i highly doubt andy is letting some pipsqueak weasel tell him who to start on his team. i wont believe it. coaches will go down on their ship but they will be the ones to sink it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2010, 08:04:45 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 21, 2010, 08:00:55 PM
I don't see how you can go back to Kolb, not because of what I think of him, but because of this situation. Doesn't mean they won't.
going to vick was the hard part....going back to cobb is nothing...cobb is the future after all and vick is a free agent
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 21, 2010, 08:00:46 PM
The only disagreement I have is him coming out and saying Kolb is his starter, unless it was a little gamesmanship on his part. Though I doubt he is that smart.
it wasnt gamesmenship....he said cobb was his man...and not just right after the game in some sort of kneejerk reaction...not that andy has EVER had a kneejerk reaction as its just not him...but he also more than a day later was still saying it...then he gets called into the office with howie and vick is suddenly the starter....it couldnt be more clear what happened
But what if Vick keeps playing like this?
I'm with Cole in that I think Vick is here long term if he plays well.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2010, 08:21:44 PM
I highly doubt that Howie had any decision in this. Nor Banner or Lurie.
Maybe Reid was convinced by the staff after film review? Did Marty campaign for Vick? Did Reid get talked out of Kolb by him?
Wild to see him make a decision like this.
First he says that running the ball was good and now this a day later. Bizzarro Andy
film review? was mart and reid looking for how quick he released the ball when the receivers made their break?
the answer is 15 seconds. start him.
if vick has a comeback player of the year type season you bet your ass he's the long term solution.
remember, kolb's here for a year and that's it. they do owe him 1.4 million next year in salary but that's chicken feed.
If Vick takes the Eagles to the playoffs, you know damn well he's here to stay.
Vick is 30
Kolb is 26
4 years ain't shtein when it comes to QBs.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 21, 2010, 08:22:34 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2010, 08:04:45 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 21, 2010, 08:00:55 PM
I don't see how you can go back to Kolb, not because of what I think of him, but because of this situation. Doesn't mean they won't.
going to vick was the hard part....going back to cobb is nothing...cobb is the future after all and vick is a free agent
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 21, 2010, 08:00:46 PM
The only disagreement I have is him coming out and saying Kolb is his starter, unless it was a little gamesmanship on his part. Though I doubt he is that smart.
it wasnt gamesmenship....he said cobb was his man...and not just right after the game in some sort of kneejerk reaction...not that andy has EVER had a kneejerk reaction as its just not him...but he also more than a day later was still saying it...then he gets called into the office with howie and vick is suddenly the starter....it couldnt be more clear what happened
But what if Vick keeps playing like this?
im not literally saying cobb is the future and vick is a free agent...im saying thats easy simple reasoning as to why or how you go back to cobb...i was responding to legendz saying they will never go back to cobb and that hes done in philly
Yeah I know that would be their reasoning but it's so transparent at this point.
Quote from: SD on September 21, 2010, 08:30:23 PM
Vick is 30
Kolb is 26
4 years ain't shtein when it comes to QBs.
2 of those years were spent doing nothing with Vick. less wear and tear.
So some non-Vick talk, I was looking at the Eagles stats Shady has a whopping 23 carries through two games. He has a 6.7 ypc and that is all he gets?
23 isnt bad in an andy reid offense when you were down the entire time in one of the two games
It is when that team played in a nickel package the entire game even before they were down big.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 21, 2010, 08:36:40 PM
So some non-Vick talk, I was looking at the Eagles stats Shady has a whopping 23 carries through two games. He has a 6.7 ypc and that is all he gets?
To be fair 16 of those 23 were in the Lions game.
speaking of shady...this helps him out even more between the tackles with vick as the starter because now you constantly have the defense pinned back the whole time with either a spy in the middle and both defensive ends containing the edge.
he could have a lot of long runs this year
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 21, 2010, 08:39:36 PM
It is when that team played in a nickel package the entire game even before they were down big.
im just saying andy often doesnt run the ball when hes up...when hes down its just never going to happen
It's more carries than KC gives Jamaal Charles who could be a top 5 rusher if they actually used him like one. Only instead of calling passes with the rest of their plays, they give it to Thomas Jones for 20 Mike Bell-like runs per game.
/fantasy owner bitchmode off
Assuming this has been posted already but I'm only on page 8 so I'll just say it.
On the way home on the radio, SalPal was on The Fanatic and said that this move had apparently been in the works since Monday morning. They got home from the Detroit and watched the film, and apparently "Andy Reid and Howie Roseman" came to the conclusion that the offensive line was so bad and Vick played so good that putting Kolb out there would be a mistake, because he would get crushed, and possibly be exposed to more head injuries . SalPal said it in a way that made it sound like there were some words exchanged between Reid and Roseman, and that Reid is the one that wanted to go with Vick. But eventually they both came to agree that Vick needed to be the starter. Said they called both Kolb and Vick around dinner time today to tell them, and that the best way to describe Kolb's reaction was "extremely disappointed".
I love how when you go to Philly.com right now, Smallwood's article "Why Kolb is the only choice" is still front and center. How's he feeling about that article now?
Also, SalPal pointed out, which I did not notice, that during yesterday's afternoon press conference, the words "Kevin Kolb is my starter" were never said because it was never asked about, and the closest that it came to that was Reid said "We'll see what happens there, I'm not gonna get into justifying one guy over the other right now" or something to that effect.
Bob Grotz reported that it was solely Reid's decision.
Tough break for Kolb, for sure.
Oh, and all of the reporters (especially national ones) were bitching about 97.5 messing up the supposed conference call because of broadcasting. Not sure how, but whats up with your station, SD?!
who is bob grotz
Yah Phreak, SalPal said that Reid and Roseman "had an exchange" and that Reid was the guy who wanted Vick to start, and that the state of the offensive line was the big factor (in addition to how Vick played)
putting kolb in back of those lumbering fat ass losers would be suicide.
I've been big Anti-Reid for a few years now, but the fact that he's the guy behind Vick starting and Roseman and the other jew wanted Kolb in there...I gained a little bit of my respect for Reid back. It's against his MO of stubbornly sticking with a guy even if the current situation doesn't suit that guy.
I still think Kolb should get a chance to succeed at some point...but the oline is so bad even Reid can see that putting him out there this year is not giving him the proper chance.
If 30 isn't that much older than 26, how much older is McNabb than 30? J must be dying here.
i actually agree with reese in that the line is a poor excuse for this decision and just not true...theres been plenty of young qb's playing behind piss poor lines worse than this one...plus the line has been horrible since lehigh..also jacksonvilles pass rush is not good
if vick plays zesty this last game and a half then cobb is starting this sunday...behind the same line that supposedly would have him killed...lol at banner inc caring even a little bit about cobbs health in this case...vick is a better qb right now period...and thats why they put him in
Apparently IGY's missing all the reports that Reid was the one who wanted Vick and not Howie/Joey
If you watched Andy Reid's monday morning presser, then you could see how much he was drooling over Vick. You couldn't wipe the smile off his face.
Yup. Usually he's all about restating his stubborn ass opinion, and instead said he wasn't going to justify one guy over the other.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2010, 09:31:04 PM
i actually agree with reese in that the line is a poor excuse for this decision and just not true...theres been plenty of young qb's playing behind piss poor lines worse than this one...plus the line has been horrible since lehigh..also jacksonvilles pass rush is not good
if vick plays zesty this last game and a half then cobb is starting this sunday...behind the same line that supposedly would have him killed...lol at banner inc caring even a little bit about cobbs health in this case...vick is a better qb right now period...and thats why they put him in
But as was mentioned, the thing about Kolb is that he's fresh off of a concussion. Once you get one, others come easier.
so anyone with a concussion in the nfl should sit out the rest of the year?
this board is filled with concussion victims.
Quote from: reese125 on September 21, 2010, 10:15:21 PM
so anyone with a concussion in the nfl should sit out the rest of the year?
When the idea was to give the guy a real shot at being successful, and the state of the offensive line gets the guy's head mushed in the first game...then what's the point? You're not going to get a proper read on how good/bad the QB is when he's either 1. Running for his life or 2. Seeing stars.
Reid knows Kolb aint gonna get shtein done in this offense this year. And Vick might.
from pft
QuoteAndy Reid: "Michael Vick is playing out of his mind right now"
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 21, 2010 7:31 PM ET
Like so many football junkies, Andy Reid was a huge Michael Vick fan before he ever heard about Bad Newz Kennels. The thought of coaching Vick reportedly had Reid "salivating" once Vick got out of prison.
That's why Reid pushed the Eagles to sign Vick last offseason. (Seriously, go back and read this great Philadelphia Inquirer piece on it.)
After watching the Michael Vick Experience 2.0 up close the last two weeks, Reid couldn't bear to put his new toy back on the shelf.
"Michael Vick is playing out of his mind right now, and that's a beautiful thing," Reid said Tuesday during his press conference to announce Vick would be the Eagles starting quarterback indefinitely.
Reid stressed this wasn't a decision about Kevin Kolb's poor first half against the Packers in the season opener. (Reid also noted Kolb is fully recovered from his concussion now.) It was about Vick's surprising progress the last two weeks, which had Reid drooling.
Reid called Vick "one of the best quarterback right now in the National Football League." Reid said Vick was "brilliant" and that he's playing at one of the higher levels Reid has seen.
To Reid, this is plain for anyone to see.
"The team saw the great play of Michael Vick -- like you saw and I saw," Reid said.
Reid is right. Vick has played exceptional football the last two weeks. He's made difficult throws into tight windows. He seems to have matured as a decision maker and passer. The legs are back. The biggest worry: Vick has always been a streaky quarterback and he's played only six quarters, with four against the Lions.
This wasn't the plan, of course. If it was, the team wouldn't have handed Kolb a hefty contract extension this offseason. Reid says the team can still win a Super Bowl with Kolb, and vainly tried to make the case this will help Kolb's maturation. Reid spoke with Kolb twice over the last two days and a trade is not a consideration.
"[Kevin] wants to be the starting quarterback of the Philadelphia Eagles," Reid said. "But he's also a team player. He accepted it but I'm not gonna tell you he doesn't want to be the starting quarterback of the Philadelphia Eagles."
Reid kept stressing what a great situation it was to have two quality quarterbacks. But it's clear that Vick is the one that makes Reid giddy.
"Very few quarterbacks can go out and play the way [Vick] played the last few weeks," Reid said. (Like, say, Kevin Kolb?)
The Eagles coach ended the press conference by saying that Vick was "back, and maybe even a little bit better" than before.
Spoken like a true fan.
This gushing can leave little doubt Reid totally wanted Vick to start.
A chilling thought is that if Howie the Talent Guy and Joe Bannaners can actually get Reid fired - which many here want - then you know the only HC they will hire will be a yes man type, so Howie and Joe can be Al Davis ll and call the shots onn the field as well.
Yeah....that thought might be the only one that has me wanting Reid to stick around.
Quote from: Rome on September 21, 2010, 10:16:25 PM
this board is filled with concussion victims.
I've had 4
Should I donate my brain?
Do you have trouble starting your truck?
What a joke of a franchise.
What is it? Did they actually believe their own off-season PR hype that going from McNabb to Kolb would not be a downgrade and esp behind this line? Did they really think Kolb would step in and play as well if not better? WTF are they serious? I thought that BS was for the fans?
I can't even make sense of this yet. It is amusing to see IGY and others try to psycho analyze Reid, Banner, Lurie, and our new "GM" to fill in the blanks and try to figure out each others role like its some day time soap opera.
I just want Reid gone. I am at a level with Reid that most of this board is or was at with McNabb. I just want him gone.
So, Retard wants the Eagles to lose and is now rooting for the skins and his boy Donovan. Got it.
I never wanted them to rebuild. I never thought it was "time" to rebuild to the point that you go to a unproven QB with Reid leading the way. I think i said many times I would be fine with getting rid of McNabb if it meant bringing in an equal or better QB. Not to rebuild.
And since I never thought it was time to rebuild I am at least happy they are playing to win now but I never thought they actually bought into their own hype about Kolb for this upcoming season. I thought letting go of Sheldon and getting even younger all around meant they knew themselves they were rebuilding no matter how many times they told the fans they weren't.
I am all for this move cause Vick is the better QB and I want to win rather than wait and see if Kolb is the guy and then if he fails have them try their luck with Reid and another new QB. How many breaks does he get? But with the way he has handled this mess if Vick does not work out and Kolb is lost for good maybe finally so is Reid. So win win?
http://blogs.delawareonline.com/eagles/2010/09/21/analyzing-reids-controversial-decision/
Vick is the beter qb now, but don't be surprised to see him come crashing to earth in the next few games. Yes he played well, but he also got away with a lot of shtein he probably won't be so lucky with in upcoming games. Kolb on the other hand shtein the bed, but to my memory he didn't look much worse than Aaron Rogers in the first half, and you have to give more of a chance before you can tell anything. It all comes down to try to win now or take a rebuilding approach. I do agree Vick is a lot more fun to watch though, even if he is dumb as sack of bricks.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 21, 2010, 10:58:03 PM
http://blogs.delawareonline.com/eagles/2010/09/21/analyzing-reids-controversial-decision/
Quote* Reid does his analysis and evaluation on Sunday night/Monday morning after Sunday games. If he felt like Vick was playing "out of his mind" and could be the difference between winning five games and the Super Bowl, why did he insist Monday afternoon that Kolb was still his man? With his evaluations already done, what changed afterward?
I don't remember the press conference word for word, so I'm just going off what SalPal said, but according to him the words "Kolb is my QB" on Monday because a question about that was never really asked. And the only time he was asked something close to it (something about how can you take Vick off the field when he's playing so well), all Reid said was "I'm not going to get into that, I'm not going to justify one guy over the other."
i think they know full well what they are doing and everyone else is over analyzing the decision. FO and Reid of course know that kobb will play at some point in the season as a starter and they'll get to see what they have. No real hurry, right? O-line theory is bullshtein and we all know it.
Vicks got the hot hand and like craps you shoot till you miss your number. Kobbsy and his corn pone down-home in cowpie land will have to wait a little while longer to see if he can play or if he's the steaming pile of twisty spirally dog turds he showed to be all preseason. Right now its Vick and if he's hot now, who knows maybe they can trade him before the deadline for some fricking o linemen or some shtein and get some real value for all they put on the pass-line for his sorry ass..
tension and jostling in the FO? Of course - there's always a palace coup fomenting in any autocratic hierarchy. But its pretty simple even for those of us here with one chromosome too many - play Vick until he craps out - and he probably will, and then all the wailing "but-cobb-is-my-teams-future-and-he-only-sucked-a-half" hand-wringers will get to see what east texas is really made of. Seriously - there's plenty of games to see if his ass is worth optioning next year - if there is a next year
farg.
Quote from: JackStraw on September 22, 2010, 12:35:09 AM
i think they know full well what they are doing and everyone else is over analyzing the decision. FO and Reid of course know that kobb will play at some point in the season as a starter and they'll get to see what they have. No real hurry, right? O-line theory is bullshtein and we all know it.
Vicks got the hot hand and like craps you shoot till you miss your number. Kobbsy and his corn pone down-home in cowpie land will have to wait a little while longer to see if he can play or if he's the steaming pile of twisty spirally dog turds he showed to be all preseason. Right now its Vick and if he's hot now, who knows maybe they can trade him before the deadline for some fricking o linemen or some shtein and get some real value for all they put on the pass-line for his sorry ass..
tension and jostling in the FO? Of course - there's always a palace coup fomenting in any autocratic hierarchy. But its pretty simple even for those of us here with one chromosome too many - play Vick until he craps out - and he probably will, and then all the wailing "but-cobb-is-my-teams-future-and-he-only-sucked-a-half" hand-wringers will get to see what east texas is really made of. Seriously - there's plenty of games to see if his ass is worth optioning next year - if there is a next year
farg.
as always your ability to write amazes me. i want to have your kids.
Quote from: Rome on September 21, 2010, 09:24:19 PM
putting kolb in back of those lumbering fat ass losers would be suicide.
He'd stand a better chance surviving crashing a Japanese Zero onto the deck of an allied aircraft carrier than he would lining up behind that swinging gate.
So what if this team wins more games with Vick? They still will fall on their faces if they get lucky enough to make the playoffs. I'll admit with the way this division looks, it could happen, but in the playoffs they will get killed.
As many times as this team has been to the playoffs and the championship game, a Superbowl win is the only thing that should be acceptable to this franchise, and that's the way they should approach every season. To me, this season that means playing Kolb and if he isn't the answer you move on. The Eagles aren't winning the Superbowl with Vick, and him starting now only prolongs the rebuilding process.
they arent making the playoffs....i love how two weeks ago most people had them out of the playoffs...now because they beat detroit they might make it?....i could see if they were 2-0 and handled green bay...but jesus what has happened in the first two weeks of the season that would change your mind in a positive way about the eagles prospects for this season
heres nine reasons why they have no chance at the playoffs
nov 7 - indy
nov 15 - @ wash
nov 21 - nyg
nov 28 - @ chi
dec 2 - houston
dec 12 - @ dallas
dec 19 - @ nyg
ded 26 - minnesota
jan 2 - dallas
Quote from: JackStraw on September 22, 2010, 12:35:09 AM
theres plenty of games to see if his ass is worth optioning next year
there is no option next year...his contract runs thru next season with 12.5 mil guaranteed
There might not even be a season next year. And most of Kolb's money was paid in the uncapped year. I guarantee you that Joe Banner understands sunk costs.
Quote from: JackStraw on September 22, 2010, 12:35:09 AM
O-line theory is bullshtein and we all know it.
:-D :-D
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 22, 2010, 08:17:04 AM
There might not even be a season next year. And most of Kolb's money was paid in the uncapped year. I guarantee you that Joe Banner understands sunk costs.
what does any of this even mean and how is it relevant
the guy is under contract for next season until he is released
This team is a farging disaster. OF COURSE Vick gives them the better chance to win this weekend. OF COURSE Kolb would get killed behind this O-Line. Neither of those things matter. IGY is spot on about this decision having everything to do with the Cowboys being 0-2 and the rest of the division looking beatable. They want to sneak into the playoffs and make more money and the future be damned but Vick isn't winning a superbowl and he isn't the future of the team so what is the farging point? I hate this shtein.
Oh, so this is where we're talking about the Vick thing. The synopsis of my thoughts about the Eagles this year: blah.
There you have it.
Poor Kolb. He has to feel betrayed. Probably understands how Vicks dogs felt when he strung them up and electrocuted them.
Anyway, Once Vick starts playing good competition he will revert back to being a 55% passer who throws as many picks as TD's. Ho hum he is a bum.
is there any chance that his 55% passing was due to not having one legit receiver in Atlanta besides Crumpler that could consistently (the key word here) get open in Atlanta?
not to mention when you run half the game how many times are you going to throw the ball to those inconsistent receivers? eagles receivers are a little diff from them
or maybe he had no good wr's cause he couldnt get the ball to them...i dont think its a coincidence that the te was his favorite target
since college vick has never shown any indication he can be a good passer and i wouldnt miraculously expect him to become one...that said i suppose there is a small chance he reinvents himself under this coaching staff...probably about the same chance that kevin cobb ever becomes a good nfl qb
that said theres people like joneszilla that are going to hate him no matter what because of the dog thing
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2010, 10:42:58 AM
that said theres people like joneszilla that are going to hate him no matter what because of the dog thing
Pretty sure joneszilla isn't judging him based on that. Just a hunch.
pretty sure he is....not that theres anything wrong with that....some people are greatly offended by it
Quote from: joneszilla on September 22, 2010, 10:16:22 AM
Poor Kolb. He has to feel betrayed. Probably understands how Vicks dogs felt when he strung them up and electrocuted them.
yeah Im not saying that Vick re-invents himself into this great passer either, but there is a great chance that passing percentage number goes up a alot higher due to the fact that the eagles receivers are light years ahead of what he had in the past
but who knows if the o-line will prevent that from happening
Quote from: reese125 on September 22, 2010, 10:33:48 AM
is there any chance that his 55% passing was due to not having one legit receiver in Atlanta besides Crumpler that could consistently (the key word here) get open in Atlanta?
not to mention when you run half the game how many times are you going to throw the ball to those inconsistent receivers? eagles receivers are a little diff from them
wait, are you talking about the same wr's that matt shaub florished with because you know, he can pass ?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2010, 10:48:04 AM
pretty sure he is....not that theres anything wrong with that....some people are greatly offended by it
Quote from: joneszilla on September 22, 2010, 10:16:22 AM
Poor Kolb. He has to feel betrayed. Probably understands how Vicks dogs felt when he strung them up and electrocuted them.
I think he was just making a funny. But maybe he joined PETA. Whatever.
im not a vick defender but schaub def did not flourish in atlanta.....shtein he barely played and when he did he was just ok
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2010, 10:51:47 AM
schaub certainly didnt flourish atlanta.....shtein he barely played and when he did he was just ok
So, now Kolb is the next Schaub? At least they rhyme!
LOL at PETA's official response:
QuoteA PETA news release said only: "As long as he's throwing a football and not electrocuting a dog, PETA is pleased he is focused on his game."
Vick had a completion % of 52% in 2006. His Wr's were Roddy White, Ashley Lelie, and Michael Jenkins and he had TE Crumpler and RB Warrick Dunn to throw to. Not too shabby. Yet he completed only 52% of his passes and had a QB rating of 75.
He is one of the top 5 most overrated players in NFL history. Just my opinion. It's always been the same with him: 4 bad plays, then 1 awful play, then 1 highlight reel play. People always remember the highlight reel b/c ESPN will show it 6,432 times and neglect the rest of his game.
trust me this is no rah rah mike vick rant but roddy white was irrelevant when he started, and lelie and jenkins are laughable
and since when did warrick dunn run post routes on the outside?
vick is a bad quarterback and a great player....thats pretty much it
i hope they shuffle in kolb every 4 or 5 plays and call it the special "offense" package.
Quote from: joneszilla on September 22, 2010, 10:54:31 AM
Ashley Lelie
!!
Quote from: phattymatty on September 22, 2010, 11:04:43 AM
i hope they shuffle in kolb every 4 or 5 plays and call it the special "offense" package.
The "other CF placation" surprise!
Quote from: reese125 on September 22, 2010, 10:58:59 AM
trust me this is no rah rah mike vick rant but roddy white was irrelevant when he started, and lelie and jenkins are laughable
and since when did warrick dunn run post routes on the outside?
But Donovan made it to the nfccg repeatedly with krap receivers and Vick also enjoyed having a top or the top running team in the league.
That was White's 2nd year. He had 30 catches with Vick. The following year Joey Harrington and Redman were QB's and White had 80 catches. Maybe he was open? Maybe Vick can't read a D and stares down TE's and looks to run too much and throws too many picks?
The point is that Vick is inaccurate as a passer. Very much so. If you think he will complete passes at a 66% clip with the Birds...you're nuts.
60% is fine. That's all Donovan ever did anyway.
Quote from: joneszilla on September 22, 2010, 11:08:03 AM
The point is that Vick is inaccurate as a passer. Very much so. If you think he will complete passes at a 66% clip with the Birds...you're nuts.
I'll bet he finishes the season with a %60 or over completion percentage. Any takers?
66%???...that would put him with the league leaders...plus he can makie up for his poor % by running the ball...similar to what donovan did early in his career
btwn mcnabb is under 60% for his career....which is why 66% for vick is just ridiculous
if vick can throw for 57% and mix in 800 yards rushing that would be fantastic
this is all crazy to even debate as vick is bringing this team no where
Quote from: SD on September 22, 2010, 11:13:41 AM
Quote from: joneszilla on September 22, 2010, 11:08:03 AM
The point is that Vick is inaccurate as a passer. Very much so. If you think he will complete passes at a 66% clip with the Birds...you're nuts.
I'll bet he finishes the season with a %60 or over completion percentage. Any takers?
ill bite
10 piece?
That's my point...REESE was blaming Vick's poor completion % on the WR's he had in Atlanta. If our WR's are so much better shouldn't he get a big bump? He won't. He will throw at a 55% clip or less. Count on it. Ever look at Vick's game by game passing stats? He threw over 300 yards like 2 times (one was against Detroit) and threw under 150 yards in about 20 games.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2010, 11:15:15 AM
Quote from: SD on September 22, 2010, 11:13:41 AM
Quote from: joneszilla on September 22, 2010, 11:08:03 AM
The point is that Vick is inaccurate as a passer. Very much so. If you think he will complete passes at a 66% clip with the Birds...you're nuts.
I'll bet he finishes the season with a %60 or over completion percentage. Any takers?
ill bite
10 piece?
In
Quote from: joneszilla on September 22, 2010, 11:19:35 AM
He will throw at a 55% clip or less. Count on it.
$20 says his season completion % is higher than 55%. You in?
i got it at 60%.....not fair
Vick is already at about a 64% clip right now, so if he goes on IR by Washington, it's not a bad deal.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2010, 11:49:17 AM
i got it at 60%.....not fair
Doesn't look like Jones wants to cake me off anyway.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 22, 2010, 11:47:26 AM
Quote from: joneszilla on September 22, 2010, 11:19:35 AM
He will throw at a 55% clip or less. Count on it.
$20 says his season completion % is higher than 55%. You in?
In, but he has to start at least 12 games. Deal?
edit: it's just no bet if he starts less than 12.
Quote from: joneszilla on September 22, 2010, 12:52:45 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 22, 2010, 11:47:26 AM
Quote from: joneszilla on September 22, 2010, 11:19:35 AM
He will throw at a 55% clip or less. Count on it.
$20 says his season completion % is higher than 55%. You in?
In, but he has to start at least 12 games. Deal?
edit: it's just no bet if he starts less than 12.
Fine, bet is off if he starts fewer than 12 total games (meaning 11 more of the remaining 14). And if they start a game with McCoy or DeSean in the wildcat, that shtein doesn't count against the bet. Don't be a dingus.
why dont you just make it a minimum amount of pass attempts...high enough to judge a completion % but lower than the qualifying amount
in fact sd wanna change our bet to something along these lines?
Sure...you can set the attempts or whatever...I'm thinking 250-300 attempts would suffice.
Fine, let's just say that is has to be 400 or more pass attempts. McNabb attempted 443 last year and completed 267 (60.3%).
Jones, good with you?
Quote from: SD on September 22, 2010, 01:14:20 PM
Sure...you can set the attempts or whatever...I'm thinking 250-300 attempts would suffice.
i believe 224 is the minimum qualifying number.....lets go with that....he might not even get to 300
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 22, 2010, 01:15:00 PM
Fine, let's just say that is has to be 400 or more pass attempts. McNabb attempted 443 last year and completed 267 (60.3%).
Jones, good with you?
Sounds good. We have a bet.
Actually, I don't see him having 400 attempts. He's only done that once in his career. How about we make it 300?
Quote from: joneszilla on September 22, 2010, 01:23:26 PM
Actually, I don't see him having 400 attempts. He's only done that once in his career. How about we make it 300?
Done.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2010, 01:18:23 PM
Quote from: SD on September 22, 2010, 01:14:20 PM
Sure...you can set the attempts or whatever...I'm thinking 250-300 attempts would suffice.
i believe 224 is the minimum qualifying number.....lets go with that....he might not even get to 300
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So this bet will be resolved by the 3rd quarter of the washington game?
Hell, in an Andy Reid offense, he could hit 224 attempts before the bye.
Quote from: charlie on September 22, 2010, 01:48:44 PM
So this bet will be resolved by the 3rd quarter of the washington game?
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 22, 2010, 01:49:51 PM
Hell, in an Andy Reid offense, he could hit 224 attempts before the bye.
de-emphisizing a joke makes the original more funny, and the retort somewhat confusing.
I hit reply before you hit post. But you're hilarious.
Is that what you need? A pat on the ol' back? GOLD STAR, CHARLIE!
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 22, 2010, 02:02:27 PM
I hit reply before you hit post. But you're hilarious.
Is that what you need? A pat on the ol' back? GOLD STAR, CHARLIE!
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i havent seen them listed yet but supposedly a bunch of fox affiliates are switching to the eagles jags game because of the vick move
Sweet fox nyc just switched to the eagles game for sunday! Thank you Vick!
QuoteLB Omar Gaither
CB Trevard Lindley
DE Antawn Barnes
DE Daniel Teo-Neshiem
LB Keenan Clayton
OT Austin Howard
TE Clay Harbor
QB Mike Kafka
Inactives
Eagles are only going with 2 qb's?
Eh?
The third QB is always listed as inactive but designated as "emergency QB"
Really? Hmm.....never noticed.
Cut Gaither.
Who sucks more, Antwan Barnes or Darryl Tapp?
Te'O Ne-bust. Trevard Bustley.
White jersey with white pants today.
Hobbsy!!
Hobbbbbbbbs
So if Vick plays 4 quarters in Jax without puking, does that make him better than McNabb?
Nice return to start the game. :yay
Lackluster start
Vick missed Pimp bad
Rocca is doing pretty damn good. Bobby April has fixed him
DeSean still had both of his hands on the ball. That's one he should have caught.
MJD...GASH
Dink and dunk against the Eagles defense....stop someone, iceholes!!
Holy shtein Darryl Tapp did something.
Quintin's on his way!
SACK
shocking that it came from the C/RG area
pimp bitches
PIMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! What a play!
Vick to Desean back and forth forever
two weeks in a row where he catches a 50+ td and isn't touched..he's scary good
14-0 Rams ahahahahahahahahahaha
Sole possession of 1st in the "Beast?"
Owen Schmitt seems like a half decent pick-up. He had two catches last week and just had a special teams tackle.
Maclin out there to return the punt? What?
Giving Pimp a break because of the heat/humidity down there
channelsurfing keeps skipping every 30 seconds for a bit, then it gets restored
this is awful
The earth must have slightly tilted off it's axis for a minute there.......it's the only logical explanation for Mike Bell gaining positive yards.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 26, 2010, 04:34:05 PM
The earth must have slightly tilted off it's axis for a minute there.......it's the only logical explanation for Mike Bell gaining positive yards.
You know it's going to be a good day for the whole team when you see a + in Bell's column.
Sean Considine is the leading tackler for the Jags. If the Eagles can't beat this team, BLOW IT UP.
Special teams coverage still sucks.
Bobby April sucks.
He fixed Rocca.
On the other hand, Rocca is booming the shtein out of the ball consistently...
edit-farg you Sarge
Why were DeSean and Brent running into each other?
Andy with the useless TO
time out? really? :boom
Vintage Vick pass on first down. Don't want to see too many of those.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 26, 2010, 04:48:50 PM
Vintage Vick pass on first down. Don't want to see too many of those.
Yeah that was at least 5 yards behind Maclin.
Terrible drive. 2 bad throws and an inside run for a yd with Bell.
Rocca really is kicking the shtein out of the ball.
How bad is the offensive line? Good god.
Vintage Asante tackling
Yeah that was piss poor.
D holding them to a FG.
F-ing Asante pick that shtein off1
He fixed Rocca
Not doing so hot in battle of field position.
Does McCoy always go down spinning in the air?
Man how bad are these announcers.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 26, 2010, 05:06:13 PM
Does McCoy always go down spinning in the air?
It's a little known fact that McCoy had childhood dreams of being a figure skater.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 26, 2010, 05:06:46 PM
Man how bad are these announcers.
Almost as bad as Maclins hands.
Maclin should have caught that!
And Vick just got hit after the run when he was down. Should be unnecessary roughness.
Maclin has to come down with that ball
And welcome to the Eagles, Reggie. Youre fitting in well.
HAHAHA CONSIDINE!
Other CF groans
Vintage Considine
fargin sean considine
:-D
He's rly good.
Maclin down. Get up.
White boy broke him in half. McNabb just rocked a delay of game penalty in the red zone. Ho hum.
Burnin' timeouts as always. GOOD TIMES.
Reid loves him some time outs
No gain. Vintage Mike Bell.
He called a timeout for that?!?!?!
Timeout to call a Mike Bell play on third down? Come on Andy, even you are better than that.
Just don't send someone up the middle.
Good: He ran it on 3rd and short
Bad: He ran it with his 3rd best rushing option
Ugly: He called a timeout to get that run play in
Awful...
Can't blame Reid for that... that was an awful spot.
Ahahahahhaha
Look here, Andy. Mike Bell SUCKS
Mike Bell again on 4th down? What exactly did he do on 3rd down to warrant getting the rock again on 4th?
He clearly got the first.
That is a first down.
He got it. But I doubt they will reverse it.
Unreal. farging Bell and Reid suck
If you are running up the middle ok fine use Bell. But a pitch to Bell? On 4rth and 1?
Third and final timeout flushed down the toilet.
It's ok. With the efficiency and precision Andy Reid teams run the 2 minute offense, we don't need timeouts.
At least the D can improve from last to 2nd to last. God the Jags are terrible. Eagles should be up by 2 plus TDs.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 26, 2010, 05:21:42 PM
Third and final timeout flushed down the toilet.
I'll allow that one. Good challenge, bad call by the refs.
Trent Cole has been doing his best Mike Mamula impression lately. Close but can't get the kill shot
I love how Bunkley takes a helmet to helmet hit and the announcers can only ask if his helmet was on correctly. Yeah no wai anyone is guilty of ANYTHING against the Eagles EVER!
Laws with the fake sack. That was Cole's sack.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 26, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
Trent Cole has been doing his best Mike Mamula impression lately. Close but can't get the kill shot
Close but no cigar again. But his pressure did lead to a sack though.
Tip on the play before that. Has Laws figured out how to play?
3rd different PR today.
Maclin out of the game? What's the update?
I suppose they are getting to the point where Pimp is too valuable to be returning?
Quote from: King Cole on September 26, 2010, 05:23:32 PM
It's ok. With the efficiency and precision Andy Reid teams run the 2 minute offense, we don't need timeouts.
We shall see......
Celek!
Be nice if they have some fargig timeouts
Looked like Celek took a helmet right on the forearm.
Nice! Maclin
MACLIN!
They should be taking 2 shots at the end zone here and then a FG if no convert. I swear if they throw something else....
I have NEVER seen McNabb get to the line that quickly and urgently to spike. For serious. Very refreshing. farg you, J.
Maclin Sucks! All he does is catch TDs!
Wow!
He had forever and stay in pocket.
Jeremy Mac!
McVick ballin
That's cause they had max protect on there, Phreak.
Pretty sure Pimp and Maclin were the only guys running routes on that play
I thought they were gonna run out of time there. Holy ish....
Aww Vick was worried about Kolb's feelings
Kolb might as well grab a skirt and some pom-poms.
The 2 min drive was a thing of beauty thanks to 3 really good throws.
That was almost the longest on sides kick ever. The way the Jags were watching that ball roll downfield, I thought the Eagles were going to be able to fall on it.
This is 2 weeks in a row that Vick has led the team downfield for touchdowns in the final 2 minutes of the half.
Hopefully we see a lot of Shady in the 2nd half.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 26, 2010, 05:40:56 PM
Hopefully we see a lot of Shady in the 2nd half.
That plus Vick actually sliding when he takes off. He takes hits even when he escapes sacks.
6/7 in the Red Zone this year so far
should kolb sulk bitterly in a parka on the sidelines like mcnabb did in baltimore?
hes doing what he needs to do to not look like the bad guy. he sees the writing on the wall in philly now...keep it classy...get traded....stick it to andy.
Quote from: KDS on September 26, 2010, 05:53:21 PM
should kolb sulk bitterly in a parka on the sidelines like mcnabb did in baltimore?
hes doing what he needs to do to not look like the bad guy. he sees the writing on the wall in philly now...keep it classy...get traded....stick it to andy.
Well, he's clearly not an idiot. Big upgrade from Donnie Mac.
J. Parker might be one of the best situational pass rushers ever
I think I still hate the Laws pick but he is playing really good right now.
lol way to go DeSean
These guys are talking like it's some kind of new revelation that DeSean Jackson is stupid.
DJax took his stupid pills today.
Bobby April needs to fix Rocca again.
Tapp is having a pretty nice game too.
Nate Allen is a ball hawk.
Nice pick by Samuel. He's been waiting for that one all day.
Asante!
Maclin again.
Holy crap!
VICKTORIOUS!
It's nice to see Considine again.
that throw to Mac was sick
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 26, 2010, 06:20:34 PM
that throw to Mac was sick
I dunno....he was wide open and hit him in stride. With that type of evidence, I've come to the conclusion that Vick has a weak arm.
Noodle!
Got to give it up to Trevor Laws he is ballin out there this year.
Calvin's been demonstrating his unique style of sideways running all day.
Could have called PI on that too. Looked like DJax got his jersey pulled while the ball was in the air.
50 yds off the back foot and a nice catch from pimp. wow this is fun to watch. and Jacksonville sucks
can we run the ball now? REID RUN THE fargING BALL!
Celek running bitches over.
Wow. Just wow.
THERES YOUR RUN
Trying not to get excited, but this shtein is fun as hell to watch.
I already can't take the Vick slurping from the talking heads.
At least he's not Brett Favre. At least he's not Brett Favre. At least he's not Brett favre.
:o
And Akers kicks on oob.
Exciting to watch.
Might be cause his ankle is hurting, but the D has done a good job on MJD.
That and Stewie. Completely different D when he's in there
Well they are getting in the backfield that never hurts when trying to stop the run.
Or the fact that they have no deep threat and don't have to worry about anything down field on defense. But still good performance regardless.
Quote from: King Cole on September 26, 2010, 06:34:47 PM
Or the fact that they have no deep threat and don't have to worry about anything down field on defense. But still good performance regardless.
Well thats never stopped MJD before. Good for the D.
if vick beats mcnabb i will personally fund another bad newz kennelz for him
if he wins a superbowl ill even give him my dog
wait...wait....over the line?
Put Kolb in?
I don't even know what Samuel was trying to do there. I would seriously rather see him run away from the ball rather than try and tackle anyone.
ron pitts = don cheadle?
and why does he keep saying it was a 7-3 game at half? it was 14-3 moron.
I like that they are actually running the football.
I like that they are actually winning.
Yeah that doesn't hurt either.
First place in the division too!
I'm mostly impressed with the defense.....especially the pressure they've been getting up front. Everyone has been in the Jags backfield today.
better effort from the D but i wont be sold until they do against an elite qb like mcnabb. it doesnt get a whole lot better than him.
p.s. I AM BACK
LOL @ sending the house with 40 seconds left.
Mexico Defense Super Bowl?
More importantly, who cares?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 26, 2010, 07:12:04 PM
Mexico Defense Super Bowl?
VDS as much as i like it is a venereal disease
better go back to the old thing than go with a player who aint gonna play no more
QuoteJeff_McLane
Heard outside #Eagles locker room: Asante Samuel saying, "We got McNabb" next.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 26, 2010, 07:25:13 PM
QuoteJeff_McLane
Heard outside #Eagles locker room: Asante Samuel saying, "We got McNabb" next.
Coming off a loss to a rookie qb playing in his third game.
He'll want this win in Philly too. But I'm not convinced he plays his best when he's pressing.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 26, 2010, 07:10:52 PM
LOL @ sending the house with 40 seconds left.
I would too after what they did with last week's lead. Probably saved the game.
Quote from: MMH on September 26, 2010, 08:37:02 PM
He'll want this win in Philly too. But I'm not convinced he plays his best when he's pressing.
He does seem to play well with a chip on his shoulder (e.g. after benching, Limbaugh)
Not for nothing but Jacksonville is literally the worst place outside of Munson's rape basement.
On earth, that is.
i think they said the game sold out, actually
thats gotta be a first
Quote from: Eagaholic on September 26, 2010, 09:00:13 PM
Quote from: MMH on September 26, 2010, 08:37:02 PM
He'll want this win in Philly too. But I'm not convinced he plays his best when he's pressing.
He does seem to play well with a chip on his shoulder (e.g. after benching, Limbaugh)
Yup and its not the playoffs so he probably will have a good game. If the Dline can generate pressure like it did today though the Birds should win.
Quote from: Rome on September 26, 2010, 09:46:09 PM
Not for nothing but Jacksonville is literally the worst place outside of Munson's rape basement.
:-D We were saying the same thing at the bar today. shteinhole USA. One and only time they host a Super Bowl is when the birds go.
Hawaii knows about my rape basement? :paranoid
Remember that time with the hula skirts and macadamia nut oil?
They told me it was for Shane Victorino....bastiches
Honest to God there's a smell wafting through that place that is awful beyond belief. It's right on the St. John's River in the industrial district of the city so I don't know whether it's a paper mill or just the filth coming from the river, but Jesus Christ it's horrible.