A 3-4 defense and a high powered offense is coming in here. Needless to say I don't have a good feeling about the game. The good thing is they're missing two pieces in their secondary and got bludgeoned by ARZ last year, so they can be scored on; provided that Kolb has the time to handle business.
I hope Akeem Jordan, Mikell and Allen are ready for Jermichael Finley.
with a late start the tailgates will be extra awesome ! :evil
The line is at 3 which is shocking to me, I'm seriously considering putting money on the Pack. I know weird things happen week 1 but the Packers are a more together team. I don't think the talent level is that much different, but they're basically the same team that lost in the playoffs last season. The Eagles are very different at almost every position.
Quote from: smeags on September 08, 2010, 11:41:57 AM
with a late start the tailgates will be extra awesome ! :evil
your love of tesla over the phillies is easily outdone by your love of tailgates over the eagles
Quote from: SD on September 08, 2010, 12:31:15 PM
The line is at 3 which is shocking to me, I'm seriously considering putting money on the Pack. I know weird things happen week 1 but the Packers are a more together team. I don't think the talent level is that much different, but they're basically the same team that lost in the playoffs last season. The Eagles are very different at almost every position.
the line is made to appeal to the mass audience not to hardcore fans of the eagles
key to the game is obviously the oline...im not sure they can win even with a good oline performance because i dont think cobb is up to out gun slinging aarron rodgers head to head yet but without it its gonna get super ugly
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2010, 12:33:00 PM
Quote from: smeags on September 08, 2010, 11:41:57 AM
with a late start the tailgates will be extra awesome ! :evil
your love of tesla over the phillies is easily outdone by your love of tailgates over the eagles
you're so darn adorable when you obsess.
I think we hit rock bottom in the past back to back losses. That even felt worse than the 3-13 season. So, we can only go up from here...even in our losses. It's going to be an enjoyable season with very low expectations. No pressure.
Quote from: hbionic on September 08, 2010, 12:38:04 PM
I think we hit rock bottom in the past back to back losses. That even felt worse than the 3-13 season. So, we can only go up from here...even in our losses. It's going to be an enjoyable season with very low expectations. No pressure.
you really think come the bye week if the eagles are 2-5 there won't be any pressure ?
I think they're going to trounce the Packers.
I know I'm the only person here who feels like this team is much better than they're being given credit for, but I'll stand by that until proven wrong.
Quote from: smeags on September 08, 2010, 12:40:35 PM
Quote from: hbionic on September 08, 2010, 12:38:04 PM
I think we hit rock bottom in the past back to back losses. That even felt worse than the 3-13 season. So, we can only go up from here...even in our losses. It's going to be an enjoyable season with very low expectations. No pressure.
you really think come the bye week if the eagles are 2-5 there won't be any pressure ?
Not regarding any of my expectations. I'll be relaxed...sure I'll be pulling for them to win...but it's not going to be like recent seasons of superbowl expectations.
haven't the pack been looking for a win in philly since the early 60's ?
I don't think its the same without favre
well.. sort of pressure. if they don't win i'm going to kill all of you with aids missles and karate chops.
i'll be good though, so don't worry.
i think they get pretty embaressed. they historically come out of the gate slow. young team. lots of mistakes.
pack 34- iggs 14. and it wasn't even that close.
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Buck/Aikman/Oliver
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2010, 12:35:53 PM
key to the game is obviously the oline...im not sure they can win even with a good oline performance because i dont think cobb is up to out gun slinging aarron rodgers head to head yet but without it its gonna get super ugly
For some odd reason I think the O-line will be fine early in the season, then crumble around the half way point. Still think they lose by 7-10.
Quote from: hbionic on September 08, 2010, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: smeags on September 08, 2010, 12:40:35 PM
Quote from: hbionic on September 08, 2010, 12:38:04 PM
I think we hit rock bottom in the past back to back losses. That even felt worse than the 3-13 season. So, we can only go up from here...even in our losses. It's going to be an enjoyable season with very low expectations. No pressure.
you really think come the bye week if the eagles are 2-5 there won't be any pressure ?
Not regarding any of my expectations. I'll be relaxed...sure I'll be pulling for them to win...but it's not going to be like recent seasons of superbowl expectations.
yeah no debating the expectations aren't where they have been but no doubt that the eagles will be questioned left and right by the national media especially if kolb doesn't play well.
The media questioning the eagles...is that something new?
As long as I see incremental improvement by Kolb from week 1 to week 17 showing that he can be the leader and a reliable QB...I'm good with that.
Quote from: Rome on September 08, 2010, 12:40:53 PM
I think they're going to trounce the Packers.
I know I'm the only person here who feels like this team is much better than they're being given credit for, but I'll stand by that until proven wrong.
saying they will 'trounce' the packers is setting a new bar for homerism...i think they can win but its not like they are playing the chiefs...even if you think the eagles are going to the superbowl the packers are a good team who probably wont get trounced all year by anyone
Quote from: SD on September 08, 2010, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2010, 12:35:53 PM
key to the game is obviously the oline...im not sure they can win even with a good oline performance because i dont think cobb is up to out gun slinging aarron rodgers head to head yet but without it its gonna get super ugly
For some odd reason I think the O-line will be fine early in the season, then crumble around the half way point. Still think they lose by 7-10.
i think its the opposite...with no cohesion and injuries i think they are a mess early and hopefully those things correct themselves and they become a solid unit down the road
you can say whatever you want about the preseason and how teams dont show anything and the schemes are dialed back or non existent...but the one place you cant really hide is the oline...especially things like being unable to properly line up on the line of scrimmage and false starts and just overall complete breakdowns....its certainly correctable stuff but i dont see it happening over the last week of practice...its gonna take time to get their shtein in sync and to heal their wounds
i just hope he makes it through the season with that o-line.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2010, 12:51:35 PM
i think its the opposite...with no cohesion and injuries i think they are a mess early and hopefully those things correct themselves and they become a solid unit down the road
you can say whatever you want about the preseason and how teams dont show anything and the schemes are dialed back or non existent...but the one place you cant really hide is the oline...especially things like being unable to properly line up on the line of scrimmage and false starts and just overall complete breakdowns....its certainly correctable stuff but i dont see it happening over the last week of practice...its gonna take time to get their shtein in sync and to heal their wounds
I agree with all of this but still think the opposite. I have no logic for my assumption but I stand by what my opinion. Call it a gut feeling.
I am hoping for a shootout...I have Rodgers, Jennings, Crosby, and Pimp starting for my fantasy team. I think there is a solid chance of that happening if the Eagles Oline can pass protect.
Week one is a tough week to predict anything. I don't think last year that anybody thought the Eagles were going to dismantle the Panthers. They traditionally start slow under Reid and do poorly against teams that run the ball well.
one thing you would think they would do to help the Oline and KK is run the ball (lol), throw quick slants which will be deadly with Maclin and Pimp, and run screens.
if they do those things, that will help KK when it's time for 5 and 7 step drops
KK is the name of the fat lady that works in the travel department.
Green Bay doesn't exactly have the world's best QB rushers, which is the only sane reason to think that the Eagles have a chance.
Not that I care about this kind of shtein, but whats the O/U? It's gotta be close to 55 or so..
i've seen 47, which seems like a lock
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 08, 2010, 12:43:54 PM
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Buck/Aikman/Oliver
I can hear Don Ho clapping from here
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 08, 2010, 12:43:54 PM
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Buck/Aikman/Oliver
1/1
Quote from: SunMo on September 08, 2010, 01:50:49 PM
i've seen 47, which seems like a lock
shtein, I shouldnt have asked. I havent bet a game since the Kansas-Memphis NCAA final, but you're right - that's a farging lock.
The last i saw was 47 1/2. I like the over in all of GB's games this year.
Some iffy lines this week, like Carolina getting 7 at NYG.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2010, 12:51:35 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 08, 2010, 12:40:53 PM
I think they're going to trounce the Packers.
I know I'm the only person here who feels like this team is much better than they're being given credit for, but I'll stand by that until proven wrong.
saying they will 'trounce' the packers is setting a new bar for homerism...i think they can win but its not like they are playing the chiefs...even if you think the eagles are going to the superbowl the packers are a good team who probably wont get trounced all year by anyone
it's not homerism at all. it may be in whatever bizarro world you live in where actual fans can be hopeful and optimistic about their team's chances, though.
what's hilarious is no matter what your outlook is you always go negative and that's fine. if by some chance the eagles do play better than anyone expects we can always count on you to do a 180 and conjure up excuses as to why your prognostications were wrong.
Green Bay's Defense is a push w/the Eagles D... Jenkins, Matthews, Woodson = Cole, Jordan?, Samuel the rest of the guys are not consistently special... Packer's have a more polished QB, and more depth at the skill positions. Iggs usually start slow... GB 31-17 PHI
Quote from: Rome on September 08, 2010, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2010, 12:51:35 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 08, 2010, 12:40:53 PM
I think they're going to trounce the Packers.
I know I'm the only person here who feels like this team is much better than they're being given credit for, but I'll stand by that until proven wrong.
saying they will 'trounce' the packers is setting a new bar for homerism...i think they can win but its not like they are playing the chiefs...even if you think the eagles are going to the superbowl the packers are a good team who probably wont get trounced all year by anyone
it's not homerism at all. it may be in whatever bizarro world you live in where actual fans can be hopeful and optimistic about their team's chances, though.
what's hilarious is no matter what your outlook is you always go negative and that's fine. if by some chance the eagles do play better than anyone expects we can always count on you to do a 180 and conjure up excuses as to why your prognostications were wrong.
i absolutely do not always go negative...in fact i said the eagles could win i just dont think they will
you said they are going to trounce one of the conferences best teams
yes unrealistic expectations of your team doing well is the textbook definition of homerism
FWIW Ray Diddy thinks these guys are going to the Super Bowl, but I don't like their defense. They're already missing Al Harris and Atari Bigby too, so you should be able to beat them deep...
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2010, 03:01:18 PM
i absolutely do not always go negative...in fact i said the eagles could win i just dont think they will
you said they are going to trounce one of the conferences best teams
yes unrealistic expectations of your team doing well is the textbook definition of homerism
(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/19/78bf8aa82c268fde7453e372d8c791b5.gif)
:-D. That is classic!
nice
I think this game will turn out to be the forecaster of what we can expect to see this season. I think the Birds are going to have some exciting plays with Mack, DJack, and Shady. I think the defense will show flashes and Kolb will be efficient and show signs of what this offense sorely needed while McNabb was here. On the other side of the coin, there is going to be bone-headed stuff, like wide-open receivers missed, missed blocking assignments, cross-ups in the secondary, etc. - all of the things you would expect with a young team.
The Pack takes the W for sure, but the Eagles show their talent, and hopefully show they aren't far from putting it all together at some point early in the season. I'll go with 31-24.
no air banjo.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2010, 03:01:18 PM
i absolutely do not always go negative...in fact i said the eagles could win i just dont think they will
This is textbook IGY. This is why we love him.
It's either that or his money.
Hard to think the Eagles win this one. It's not like they're traditionally world-beaters in the first game of the season. Anything could happen, but I certainly wouldn't put money on them winning this one.
SI.com has like 8 of their 10 "experts" picking GB to go to the SB this year. That's a little too much love for me.
That being said, I think they're much better than the Eagles.
31-20.
Pack are better than the Eagles even with a banged up secondary...Pack 26-17
Love to be wrong
Week one is tough to predict. Think there will be plenty of pressure on Kolb, mentally. He'll need to step it up. I hope we see a balanced offense more than anything. Not that I watched much of preseason but what I saw was no real change in calling the plays. Unless Reid's got a reason chip up his sleeve. The broken record goes on if there is no change in the offense. Kolb ain't going to be as good as a over the hill McNabb his first season so why use him the same. We shall see!
Homer mode on:
Eagles shock the Packers and win 27-24
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 08, 2010, 01:57:52 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 08, 2010, 12:43:54 PM
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I can hear Don Ho clapping from here
Better warn the wife and kid to prepare for three hours of my wise ass comment, swearing, furniture throwing, drinking tirade.
I may be to beat to get worked up as UH plays Army at 6 AM HST on Saturday. No local broadcast so The Shack it is.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 08, 2010, 05:11:18 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2010, 03:01:18 PM
i absolutely do not always go negative...in fact i said the eagles could win i just dont think they will
This is textbook IGY. This is why we love him.
because i think the eagles could win....you think its absolutely impossible that either team could win this game?....as dm said week one is so tough to predict
i mean i know the packers are better but come on
if you had just said "they could win if everything goes right but won't win because green bay is better overall" no one would be busting your farging balls.
the thing is, though, your bombastic forecasts of doom are typically tempered with just a sliver of possibility so that you can come back later and say, well, see... i said they could win! just to cover your ass.
it is classic you, dude. and that's why we heart you.
show me one place anywhere ever that ive predicted a game wrong then came back and said i told you they could win...not like the 100's of times ive supposedly done it...just ONE...ive been asking this for years and suspect nothing will appear this time either but i always like to appeal for it every once in a while....what happens is a lot of people cant recognize the difference bwtn analysis and prediction
as for this game i dont think everything has to go right for them to win...as i said if the oline doesnt self destruct then they have chance
and i would say the only bombastic statement in this entire thread is that the eagles will trounce the packers
i've never seen anyone take such delight in predicting failure for teams you're supposed to be a fan of.
i know i've never seen anyone who bets against their own teams and has no shame in admitting that they enjoy making money off of the failure of teams you're supposed to be a fan of.
without sifting through 40,000 posts of yours i'd all but guarantee you've done exactly what i suggested and more than once.
and what is so bombastic about expressing a feeling (actually more of a hope based on the potential of the team as i see it) that the eagles are going to lay the wood on the packers, especially considering nearly every other member here is predicting the exact opposite? it's a feeling. i expressed it here because that's what this board is for, right?
whatever, though. the homer vs. hater argument is so retarded and tired i can't believe i allowed myself to get dragged into it with you again.
IGY doesn't do the "classic IGY" unless someone points out that he was wrong. That's when he feels the need to say "RIF, I said they had a chance, dookie butta jaun!"
I actually know quite a few people that bet against their teams. They say either way it is a win.
Quote from: Rome on September 08, 2010, 07:45:45 PM
i've never seen anyone take such delight in predicting failure for teams you're supposed to be a fan of.
i know i've never seen anyone who bets against their own teams and has no shame in admitting that they enjoy making money off of the failure of teams you're supposed to be a fan of.
without sifting through 40,000 posts of yours i'd all but guarantee you've done exactly what i suggested and more than once.
and what is so bombastic about expressing a feeling (actually more of a hope based on the potential of the team as i see it) that the eagles are going to lay the wood on the packers, especially considering nearly every other member here is predicting the exact opposite? it's a feeling. i expressed it here because that's what this board is for, right?
whatever, though. the homer vs. hater argument is so retarded and tired i can't believe i allowed myself to get dragged into it with you again.
^^^
that pretty much sums it up...youre a homer im hater...but just because we are on opposite sides of the fence doesnt mean you need to make up things that arent true
and the exact opposite of the eagles trouncing the packers would be predicting the packers trounce the eagles and i dont see anywhere near everyone doing that....and i dont know how you cant see how homertastic your prediction is...the packers are a sb favorite in the nfc and the eagles are in a re tool mode coming off a horrific preseason....there literally isnt a single reason to predict an eagle route...an eagle win i could maybe see...the only reason is as you said a "feeling"...and that feeling is called homerism
Yeah there preseason was pretty zesty, but under Reid I have learned their preseasons like most NFL teams mean all of about nothing.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 08, 2010, 07:53:20 PM
I actually know quite a few people that bet against their teams. They say either way it is a win.
thank you....its amazing how people dont get this...its also amazing how they would think at any time you are actually rooting against your team when doing this
i guess homerism is like being an evangelical christian and betting against ones own team would be abortion
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 08, 2010, 08:04:47 PM
Yeah there preseason was pretty zesty, but under Reid I have learned their preseasons like most NFL teams mean all of about nothing.
actually eagles usually start off pretty slow...but your overall point is definitely valid...however i was specifically pointing to this preseason and how it gave no reason to predict an eagle rout in this game
From Domo:
QuoteWill Eagles be better covering the TE? Hard to be worse. The 17-game numbers (including playoff loss): 102 catches, 1,079 yards, 10 TDs
That is awful.
they havent covered a te since carlos emmons
I know.
Be nice if they considered doing it once in awhile though
tell your boy to start drafting linebackers then
Chris Gocong ain't enough for you, you ingrate?!
he said linebackers, not beer truck deliverymen.
Gocong and his engineering degree scoff at your assertion that he drives truck!
It looks like Clayton and Chaney may turn out ok.
Wasn't Gocong like a nuclear physics major or something?
All I know is it would be impractical to deliver beer in a Prius. More beer than Rusty can drink in a day, at least.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 08, 2010, 08:45:17 PM
More beer than Rusty can drink in a day
you cant even put a number on that....but i know sb can drink more
phreak's major in college was romance languages with a minor in elizabethan poetry.
he puts out oil rig fires now.
Quote from: Rome on September 08, 2010, 08:47:14 PM
phreak's major in college was romance languages with a minor in elizabethan poetry.
he puts out oil rig fires now.
lol...I dont even know what that means but I laughed
you know you are only encouraging him when you do that
Quote from: Rome on September 08, 2010, 08:47:14 PM
phreak's major in college was romance languages with a minor in elizabethan poetry.
Sad thing is I know a few people with that major.
yes, they're called translators.
I seriously hate all of you.
thats a lie
you love us more than you love zombies
Beer >>>>>>>>>> Zombies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prius >>> All of You
where does chain smoking rank
All those greater than signs are stubbed out cigarettes.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 08, 2010, 10:36:21 PM
I seriously hate all of you.
False
Quote from: rjs246 on September 08, 2010, 10:42:40 PM
Beer >>>>>>>>>> Zombies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prius >>> All of You
True
27-23 packers win after scoring a td in the last minute. this after the eagles had to settle for a FG in the prior drive because they could not get 6 in the redzone.
if they hold them to just 27 i will eat your poop
Quote from: KDS on September 09, 2010, 12:17:20 PM
if they hold them to just 27 i will eat your poop
how can i refuse an offer like this ?
c'mon rome, you've probably told KDS to eat shtein a 1,000 times. now he may actually have to do it.
Here's hoping for a shi-err, shutout.
This game won't even be close unless some catastrophic event happens to the Packers.
agreed. i'm not even going to watch.
When do pitchers and catchers report?
Oh, I'll watch. I always watch.
I watched every morning while living in LA...getting my ass up early to get a good seat the bar...for a 3-13 season.
I'll watch.
that -3 line is lookin pretty good right about now
romey will take that bet
and i didnt know pg lived in LA
ha
she references l.a. in roughly 37.4% of her posts these days.
and i am so gonna laugh when the eagles beat the packers. every last one of you is going to say, "damn, the romester was right. i love him."
Just wait...
If the word Romester ever escapes my mouth I give you all permission to kick me in the face.
im going to kick you in the face anyway you stupid jew
lol
I actually sort of laughed at that.
You're too drunk or not drunk enough.
It was just so remarkably unfunny that it tickled me. And besides, define 'too drunk'.
Laughing at one of MDS' jokes.
not to butt in here but on the funny scale gf you are just ahead of munson and jay leno
And you're just behind that grouping, so congratulations.
would get up early in l.a. but gave up her tickets ?
feeding your kids>>feeding Lurie's kids
Quote from: Diomedes on September 09, 2010, 04:32:44 PM
feeding your kids>>feeding Lurie's kids
ramen noddles - problem solved.
I need a babysitter Friday night...you available?
I think Tesla is in town, he's busy.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 09, 2010, 04:57:41 PM
I think Tesla is in town, he's busy.
ummm, no dickhead, there's a poision cover band in town.
How silly of me! That's right.
(http://www.chicagogigs.com/images/content/poison_poison__tickets_5455345.jpg)
the romester does not approve of the latest tangent this thread has taken.
butch it up, Romes.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 09, 2010, 02:29:16 PM
I watched every morning while living in LA...getting my ass up early to get a good booster seat at the bar...for a 3-13 season.
7 am HST to watch Detroit week 2, now that's sick, really bad sick.
is 7am in hawaii earlier than 7am in philly
So early it happens the day before.
so he should know the score before any of us
can the mods not have don post in the game threads then?
Don't read the game thread on Saturday. Duh.
1pm sat his time or ours?
:-D
If Don says GB wins the game, I'm putting my money on the Eagles because I doubt GB can take two in a row.
That sounds like a great plan.
Eagles - 23
Packers - 27
I can't remember ever being less excited about the 1st game of the season. It has nothing to do with how bad I think they're going to get smoked tomorrow and everything to do with the fact that I'm simply not looking forward to dealing with my savage, packer backer lady friend and her stupid farging cheese head. If they were playing the Pack in week 2, I wouldn't give a shtein but I really don't want to start the season off listening to that shtein talking squaw all day. Domestic violence is afoot.......in her face.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 11, 2010, 09:45:02 PM
I'm simply not looking forward to dealing with my savage, packer backer lady friend and her stupid farging cheese head.
Angry sex. Tell her to keep the jersey on.
(http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Custers-Revenge-304x400.jpg)
Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon of the Packers and they haven't done shtein in this league in a while. They are a good team, but they aren't a great team. A lot of people are looking at this game like we are playing the Colts who always own us. The Eagles are pretty good against the Packers, and I think we can exploit their secondary.
If we can force a turnover or two defensively then I think the game is very winnable.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 11, 2010, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 11, 2010, 09:45:02 PM
I'm simply not looking forward to dealing with my savage, packer backer lady friend and her stupid farging cheese head.
Angry sex. Tell her to keep the jersey on.
and a Brett Favre mask
Careful, though. That mask would make Sarge cum too quickly.
Aim for the 4, Sassy!
She doesn't have any jerseys and she doesn't like Favre either so she does have some redeemable qualities.
The Packer fans I know currently rank Favre somewhere between Osama bin Laden and Hitler. Four years ago they would have sucked his dick. Even if he was wearing Crocs.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 12, 2010, 10:29:45 AM
She doesn't have any jerseys and she doesn't like Favre either so she does have some redeemable qualities.
Does she really have a cheese head. No one would ever be allowed to wear one of those in my house.
The field is painted with the old logo at mid-field. Looks sweet
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 12, 2010, 10:29:45 AM
She doesn't have any jerseys and she doesn't like Favre either so she does have some redeemable qualities.
The fact that she's with you tells us all we need to know about her qualities, Sassy.
:yay
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 12, 2010, 11:03:48 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 12, 2010, 10:29:45 AM
She doesn't have any jerseys and she doesn't like Favre either so she does have some redeemable qualities.
Does she really have a cheese head. No one would ever be allowed to wear one of those in my house.
I don't let her wear it in the house either. I told her that if she wants to wear it in the house, she has to wear it out in public.....and not at a football game either but to the grocery store or the mall or on South Street. She has yet to take me up on my offer.
She's been a Packers fan for as long as she can remember and it really doesn't make sense to me.....she's from Kansas City and she's native. There's really no reason for her not to be a Chiefs fan.
Quote from: Rome on September 12, 2010, 12:58:40 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 12, 2010, 10:29:45 AM
She doesn't have any jerseys and she doesn't like Favre either so she does have some redeemable qualities.
The fact that she's with you tells us all we need to know about her qualities, Sassy.
:yay
Other than football teams, she has impeccable taste.
INACTIVES
Daniel Teo-Nesheim
Jamar Chaney
Keenan Clayton
MJG
Austin Howard
Reggie Wells
Darryl Tapp
Mike "9-27" Kafka
Antwan Barnes, Juqua Parker and Moise Fokou will apparently be a big partof the nickel pass rush
I thought Te'O was "starting" in nickel packages. I feel lied to!
What? No Te'o? farg that shtein.
And no Tapp, shut down DE extraordinaire
These unis are tiiiiight.
Just a little early there.
farging love these jerseys/helmets...mmmmmmmmmmmmm
I will jump on the jersey love bandwagon as well. They need to bring that look back full time.
(http://www.funnydog.net/images/mad-dog.jpg)
They're working in Vick and the mad dog screwups early this week.
didn't they get called for illegal formation like 5 times in one preseason game?
At least the running game hasn't had a screwup yet.
Get rid of the ball Kolb. Christ.
Farging Fox is still showing the Giants/Panthers game even though the thing's been over for about 10 minutes now. Farg you Fox. iceholes!
You're not missing anything you want to see.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 04:19:36 PM
I will jump on the jersey love bandwagon as well. They need to bring that look back full time.
Kelly Green FTW.
Game finally on here, don't know why they didn't end the Gints game early, not like it was close.
Defense decided to show up for a couple of plays.
Hah, that was a whacky looking play. Way to make a play D
Nice!
What's the over/under on the # of times the announcers will mention McNabb?
Look what happens when they run the ball.
Vick looks about 4833535 times faster this year. Just don't let him throw the damn thing.
Nice start here with all the penalties. Way to have 'em disciplined.
Good start by Kevin Franchise too
Don't let Kolb throw it either. I don't think they picked up a single yard passing on that drive.
I'm already sick of the Vick package. Leve Kolb on the damn field.
Lovin' the unis, already sick of this Vick stuff. Hopefully they don't keep that up all season.
The Unis are niiiice! Everytime I see Vick on the field, I catch myself hoping they're not throwing the ball. Damn shame.
Flipping Kolb and Vick every other play is not going to help this team win any games and if Reid insists on keeping that crap up, then it means that does not have a lot of faith in Kolb. Put the kid in there and let him play.
What is that, 5 or 6 penalties already? Terrible.
I think Ray Diddy said it in pregame. In order to beat a team that's better than you, which the Packers are, you gotta do some unconventional stuff.
I get the feeling we'll see Vick more in games like this and less in games the Eagles should win
(http://www.bubblyfunk.co.uk/images/Cardstock%206x6%20Citrus%20Yellow.JPG)
I guess this is Al Harris Appreciation Day.
Antwaan Barnes moves about as well as Trotter.
Parker and Cole showed up to play.
Lets hold them to a FG.
Brandon Graham-Parker has looked great so far.
Jooquay!
Juqua on a pace for 72 sacks this year
Quote from: Eagaholic on September 12, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
Juqua on a pace for 72 sacks this year
That should be good for three wins this season. No more than that, though.
I think 70 is a little more realistic.
Killa!!
Someone's head will explode when GB gets a first down here.
COLE!
Killa has been owning Clifton all game so far.
Nice knowin ya, Barnes...
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 04:52:42 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on September 12, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
Juqua on a pace for 72 sacks this year
That should be good for three wins this season. No more than that, though.
dunno, eagles also on pace for - 256 yards rushing this year
Quote from: Eagaholic on September 12, 2010, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 04:52:42 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on September 12, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
Juqua on a pace for 72 sacks this year
That should be good for three wins this season. No more than that, though.
dunno, eagles also on pace for - 256 yards rushing this year
Four wins.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 04:56:19 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on September 12, 2010, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 04:52:42 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on September 12, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
Juqua on a pace for 72 sacks this year
That should be good for three wins this season. No more than that, though.
dunno, eagles also on pace for - 256 yards rushing this year
Four post season wins.
Kevin's mom can get it...
This Vick this is awesome. Do it more!
So glad I missed that Weaver injury.
Goodbye Weaver.
See you in two years...
shtein leonard, that didn't look too good. use the tv timeout to get a brace on.
Wow. Weaver is done. That has to be a tear or a break
That's the end of Weaver... shtein.
Weaver's done for the year. That was ugly.
Put Vick at FB.
That should have been Vick.
When they come back to the TV we will see him walking off, not carted off.
BET THAT
Peace out, Weezy. farg!!
Or carried off.
O/U on number of non-Vick runs for the rest of the game: 3
Can't wait for the return of Charles Scott or Martell Mallett!
This offense is going places now. First, to the bench. After that, who knows!
This oline is turrable. Not a smart throw from Kolb.
Great farging throw, Kolb
Woodson didn't catch that...
Kolb has happy feet and is making some bad decisions so far, didn't get away with that last one.
Looked like it hit the ground.
The offense is atrocious
They traded Scott so that option is gone unless AZ cut him. Nice pick Kolb. What the hell was he thinking?
Of course this is also why he needs to stay in the game and not switching out with Vick every other play.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 12, 2010, 05:11:13 PM
What the hell was he thinking?
That he doesn't have time to make a second read.
Feel bad for Weaver, too, he had no chance to avoid injury.
Weaver to IR.
Good thing we only have 3 2 active RB.
Anyone else getting a 1986 vibe from the offense? ::)
The cheerleaders look bad ass in the kelly green butta joints. Less Eagles, more cheerleaders.
Scott is on the Giants practice squad and could be had. Yay?
Quote from: NC_Eagle on September 12, 2010, 05:13:03 PM
Anyone else getting a 1961-2009 vibe from the Eagles? ::)
Left knee sprain for Weaver. Sounds like one hell of a sprain.
Pammy O says they're calling it a knee sprain right now
Gotta give the d some credit so far. They're playing a lot better than I expected, especially considering that they are getting absolutely nothing from the offense.
Vick needs to park his ass on the bench and Kolb needs Reidmorningdouche to call some goddamn running plays.
Graham at tackle too much. Want to see him off the edge.
Definitely. D is looking good all around.
Gotta move the ball here.
WTF, Vick again.
walking wounded.
WTF, penalties again.
McGlynn at C
Lol Jackson hurt but not the knee, his snap arm
Looks like he landed on his wrist there.
Kolb is dead.
This OL' blows.
farging bums.
At least Sav Rocca is kicking the ever loving shtein out of the ball
Nice drive. Holding. Jackson hurt. Kolb hurt. Punt.
Well, everyone is injured, the team is undisciplined, and Kolb has looked like ass. 3-3 is a credit to the defense but they can't hang on forever.
Top weapon: Sav Rocca.
Is Garcia still available? They might need another QB or two to finish the season.
No run defense. No offense. Everyone getting hurt. Are they playing at the Vet today?
How the F is Kolb supposed to get into any rhythm if Vick keeps coming in every other play? If you want to put Vick in give him a few plays in a row or HERE IS A IDEA LET HIM THROW!
God I hate Reid. And now the D is letting them run over them.
:boom
Bradley is done. Great game.
Stewie dead for 2nd year in a row?
Don't mind Stewie, he's just drunk.
Stewie Westbrook.
And now Bradley's hurt.
Stewie lookin like he just took a right hook from Brock Lesnar
bodybag game
Well, shtein.
Body Bag Game II
Someone needs to get a Stewie stumble GIF asap
Greg Jennings is pretty good.
Bunkley all up in the backfield.
Bizzarro world. Great defense and shut offense
Stewie is back.
Bradley faked his way through the concussion test and he's back.
Stewie back, looks like they only had 1 green dot helmet
Not enjoying this game very much. How's about you kids?
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 12, 2010, 05:32:56 PM
Bradley faked his way through the concussion test and he's back.
:-D
I'd rather have a concussed Stewie than Omar G.
it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt
Quote from: joneszilla on September 12, 2010, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 12, 2010, 05:32:56 PM
Bradley faked his way through the concussion test and he's back.
:-D
I'd rather have a concussed Stewie than Omar G.
So would the other CF
Zero passing yards. Zero.
They're running the ball too much?
Minus passing yards.
That should seal the game there.
Well on the bright side I do have Aaron Rodgers on my fantasy team.
Injury experts are all abuzz about the severity of Weaver's injury. Not going to be good.
Watch Andy try to run out the clock. Could be fun.
pass blocking is bad enough, but losing Weaver is going to result in the death of Kolb. If i have to watch Vick as a starter for a year I'm going to have a tough time watching games.
D looks decent. the front four are getting a good push. lets hope Bradley is ok.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 12, 2010, 05:42:04 PM
Watch Andy try to run out the clock. Could be fun.
FB dive?
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 12, 2010, 05:38:40 PM
Injury experts are all abuzz about the severity of Weaver's injury. Not going to be good.
let's have a CF contest to see who can guess the knee damage. I say patellar, pcl.
And Kolb earns his first boos of the year
Nice catch by McGlynn.
Kolb to McGlynn! SooperBowlz!
McGlynn to take wildcat in 2nd half
I mean....Jesus farging Christ
What is king Kevin doing?!?!?!?!
Everyone wanted kolb and now he is here.
3/8 for 17 farging yards
Quote from: Eagaholic on September 12, 2010, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 12, 2010, 05:38:40 PM
Injury experts are all abuzz about the severity of Weaver's injury. Not going to be good.
let's have a CF contest to see who can guess the knee damage. I say patellar, pcl.
I read on another board that a guy claims to have sources said nothing is torn and it looked worse than it was.
McGlynn will snap and then throw to himself. It's unstoppable!
It's like a train wreck.....I want to look away but can't.
This is Horrible.
Worse than I could have imagined.
Pre-vent! Pre-vent!
I would prefer Vick.
The good news is that if this continues Andy Reid is gone.
WOW. Kolb had all day on first down, he stared down Jackson and should have been picked.
Put McGlynn at WR.
farging abortion
Things getting really ugly now.
Ha.. more penalty yards and offensive yardage.
Sic
At the very least, McDermott and the grounds keeper are gone. Seriously, how does grass get that dead in week farging one?
temple?
time to wipe that smile off rodgers face.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 05:49:14 PM
At the very least, McDermott and the grounds keeper are gone. Seriously, how does grass get that dead in week farging one?
:-D :-D
For the love of God, block the figgie.
The grass killed itself when it saw the Eagles offense.
what a laughable effort.
Lolol nice mile long FG
farging shtein ass bums!!!!
burn this game plan
Perhaps the grass had grown used to McNabb aerating it with his passes.
Let's trade Vick, Darwin Walker's thigh, Reno Mahe, and a 2016 5th for that McNabb guy.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 12, 2010, 05:54:01 PM
Let's trade Vick, Darwin Walker's thigh, Reno Mahe, and a 2016 5th for that McNabb guy.
Can he play FB?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2010, 05:53:27 PM
Lolol nice mile long FG
farging shtein ass bums!!
at least your texans won today.
How in world did Reid think that in his first game as a starter it would be a good idea to keep subbing him out every other play?
Seriously WTF? Why is he do F-ing dumb? Let him play and mix the run in.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 05:54:39 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 12, 2010, 05:54:01 PM
Let's trade Vick, Darwin Walker's thigh, Reno Mahe, and a 2016 5th for that McNabb guy.
Can he play FB?
of course, anyone can
I see a lot of things the team can build on.
Like, literally, they should throw these fargers into the foundation of a building and put a farging mosque on it.
this game is reminding me of what the offense usually looked like in the kelly green years
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 12, 2010, 05:57:57 PM
How in world did Reid think that in his first game as a starter it would be a good idea to keep subbing him out every other play?
Seriously WTF? Why is he do F-ing dumb? Let him play and mix the run in.
That's what I don't get. In the pregame meetings didn't anyone bring that up(that it may be a bad idea)? Do they feel obligated to play Vick for some reason? If Kolb is your guy...let him be the guy(and fall flat on his face if that's the way it goes).
I hate Vick, and I hate him even more when he does something good.
We're running out of honkeys. Repeat, we are running out of honkeys!
come on man!
wow, Bradley and Kolb out with concussions now, even though stewie returned last half
Kolb and Bradley out.............bad to much much worse
The OL' got Kolb killed in his first game.
What a shtein ass display of football
Gee Asante, nice celebration of an int you should have had
I thought Asante was taking that to the house.....
game over if gb gets in the endzone, if it isn't over already
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 06:07:39 PM
I hate Vick, and I hate him even more when he does something good.
I actually like Vick. Use him properly.
Raped on the ground. Raped through the air. Sean McDermott may be Dr Seuss.
Look at this shtein here.
The other CF must LOVE this.
That white sonofabitch just walked their asses.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I didn't expect much from the team this year but at least wanted them to be competitive. The D is doing the best they can but this abortion of an O is a nightmare. The clock is ticking loudly on the Any Reid era so far.
completely embarrassing display. they've quit and it's not even the middle of the third quarter.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 12, 2010, 06:16:48 PM
The clock is ticking loudly on the Any Reid era so far.
No, that's just the sound of his heart trying to pump blood through his clogged arteries. Or mine. One of us is going to die from it, and I don't particularly care which.
I had some hope with Vick in there. But the D has checked out too.
Awful.
Injuries, ineptitude and undisciplined play.
Your 2010 Eagles.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2010, 06:16:38 PM
Look at this shtein here.
The other CF must LOVE this.
That white sonofabitch just walked their asses.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
They were until Joe Buck pronounced his name.
at least we still have the phillies.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 12, 2010, 06:18:24 PM
I had some hope with Vick in there. But the D has checked out too.
I'm not blaming the D at all, they did what they needed to do in the first half. The completely non-existent Offense is a HUGE problem right now. They have no game plan for this game. None.
ok i know ive been out of the loop here recently but wtf is the OTHER CF?
I want a good drive here. For the love of god, please resemble a goddamn professional football team.
Vick paying tribute to McNabb with that pass.
Quote from: Rome on September 12, 2010, 06:20:21 PM
at least we still have the phillies.
You know, I have to say I'm damn glad I'm not an overall Philly sports fan, but being a diehard for this football team is disheartening.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 12, 2010, 06:20:39 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 12, 2010, 06:18:24 PM
I had some hope with Vick in there. But the D has checked out too.
I'm not blaming the D at all, they did what they needed to do in the first half. The completely non-existent Offense is a HUGE problem right now. They have no game plan for this game. None.
I bet the game plan went something like this
Reid: I know one play Vick one play Kolb! They will never know what hit them!
I LOVE THE PHILLIES!
odhicwokidhclwidhcpiwdhcpiwhdcpiwghdoicgwodejucvgwojdcgwj
vick's throw and peters penalties again!!!!!!!
I hate this
i wonder if cliff lee can play quarterback?
At least Vick looks like a QB. Rather him throw to the dirt than into the hands of the corners.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 12, 2010, 06:21:06 PM
ok i know ive been out of the loop here recently but wtf is the OTHER CF?
I was going to ask the same thing. ???
Can somebody on offense keep track of the Hall of Famer's kid for a play or two? C'mon.
Quote from: joneszilla on September 12, 2010, 06:24:25 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 12, 2010, 06:21:06 PM
ok i know ive been out of the loop here recently but wtf is the OTHER CF?
I was going to ask the same thing. ???
http://www.castefootball.us/
MDS had a short-lived infatuation with it.
But but...McNabb was the problem, right?
Defense looks solid overall. The offense is offensive.
Looks like this season is going to be like 1991 but without McMahon. Sigh.
Nice to see they also brought back the old worm burners for throwback weekend.
I hate Vick so god damned much, but I was kinda hoping he'd score there.
VICK!!!
They need him because of that OL
Get out, Kolb.
McVick runnin wild out there.
Peters down, this could be good
Peters hurt.
a goddamn penalty on Harbor
Wow.
AWFUL fargING PENALTIES
Oh. My. God. farging penalties.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2010, 06:27:08 PM
VICK!
They need him because of that OL
Get out, Kolb.
Either Kolb plays this season, or they need to trade him and start over again. He's getting a little long in the tooth to wait around.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 12, 2010, 06:26:11 PM
Nice to see they also brought back the old worm burners for throwback weekend.
Well to be fair, at least McNabb and Vick can get the ball out before getting sacked.
Finally some offense, and a TD negating penalty of course.
funny how green bay has, what, 1 penalty and the eagles have 90 gazillion.
Why in the world did I trade Rodgers for Kolb, Calvin Johnson, and Leon Washington in FF?
WHY?
Would like to see the whole OL go down at once along with Peters. Honestly, someone is going to be killed today.
OH MY fargIN GOD!!!!!!!!
CAN WE GET INTO THE MUTHAfargIN END ZONE!!!!!!!!!!
Another injury, take a drink.
Oh hey look at that. You put in a "real QB" and run the ball and you score!
TD Shady.
Nice quick hitter
Need the D to come up with a stop.
Hopefully OG doesnt get raped by Finley all the way down the field
Todd going to change his screen name to VDS?
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 06:28:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2010, 06:27:08 PM
VICK!
They need him because of that OL
Get out, Kolb.
Either Kolb plays this season, or they need to trade him and start over again. He's getting a little long in the tooth to wait around.
If they trade Kolb Reid needs to go at the exact same time. He's the one that setup this entire situation.
Hero Kevin laid a big fat turd today.
I can hear McNabb laughing from DC
Yeah, but he didn't even know the Eagles were playing. He's laughing at Clinton Portis' latest get-up in the locker room. And his own jokes.
Oh look another white guy running wild over the Eagles.
Offense tries to get back in the game, special teams respond by saying "lol no."
lolololololololololololololol
Top 10 draft pick
nothing says laid an egg like getting injured.
Quote from: Rome on September 12, 2010, 06:34:58 PM
nothing says laid an egg like getting injured.
because he was stellar before that.
Omar Gaither sucks.
So anyway, about the Phils...............
Well there goes the comeback.
nice job by the defense there. i guess that was kolb's fault too.
Is it surprise sex when you've got the whole offseason to lube up for it?
The good news is that I have a fantasy team with both Rodgers and Jennings. Ca-ching!
Sassy gave up and went out to run an errand. Had to pick up a blanket full of small pox.
i have arian foster. for real. and i didn't even draft him. i picked him up as a street free agent.
Think it's now safe to say: BALL GAME!
Changed my mind...3 wins.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 06:39:27 PM
Is it surprise sex when you've got the whole offseason to lube up for it?
.
It's called taking it up the ass.
I still think 5-8 wins this year. Betting money says 6.
Maybe that's Reid's plan, to completely duplicate Aaron Rogers first year in Green Bay, poor o-line and all.
Not enough alcohol in the world to watch this thing through.
Just when you think they can't come up with new stupid penalties.
Can someone shoot Buckley?
Buckley, gone.
so eldra buckely is awful
All we need is Washington to roll tonight and the day will be complete!
OK, not likely...
Buckley is the new Ryan Moats
Does Rodgers have to throw more than three passes the rest of the game? No.
I still think they can come back and win. I'm talking about the Arizona Cardinals.
This team continues to think up new stupid. Good thing they're so "young"...they're so disciplined.
Quote from: NC_Eagle on September 12, 2010, 06:44:56 PM
All we need is Washington to roll tonight and the day will be complete!
OK, not likely...
Its either watching Cowboys dominate or have McNabb win and have to hear about it all week at work.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 12, 2010, 06:47:20 PM
Quote from: NC_Eagle on September 12, 2010, 06:44:56 PM
All we need is Washington to roll tonight and the day will be complete!
OK, not likely...
Its either watching Cowboys dominate or have McNabb win and have to hear about it all week at work.
So, a lose-lose situation?
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 12, 2010, 06:47:20 PM
Quote from: NC_Eagle on September 12, 2010, 06:44:56 PM
All we need is Washington to roll tonight and the day will be complete!
OK, not likely...
Its either watching Cowboys dominate or have McNabb win and have to hear about it all week at work.
I am going to die a painful death tomorrow at work if McNabb lights it up tonight.
Let's see the Eagles try a hurry up offense here.
Damn, they're in mid-season form. I see something promising, get my hopes up, and BAM! Somebody comes up with a new form of stupid and twists the knife again.
Quote from: 4and26 on September 12, 2010, 06:49:27 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 12, 2010, 06:47:20 PM
Quote from: NC_Eagle on September 12, 2010, 06:44:56 PM
All we need is Washington to roll tonight and the day will be complete!
OK, not likely...
Its either watching Cowboys dominate or have McNabb win and have to hear about it all week at work.
I am going to die a painful death tomorrow at work if McNabb lights it up tonight.
I will laugh my mutherfarging ass off...
I have Celek on my FF team. Let him do something please so I can compete.
Let's make this happen, dograper.
Not getting my hopes up. You can't make me do it.
More Tom Selleck please.
I know they lost but please pass it to Celek for a td.
Expecting a FG here.
farg it... Let's go Vick.
Not sure what I enjoyed more, the TD or the shot of Eskin in the background looking all bitter.
I'm really hating Andy Reid right now... the offense is completely different with Vick in as opposed to Kolb.
season's over. time to move on.
I really didn't see this special teams meltdown coming. ::)
Start Vick? :paranoid
Man, i hate Vick. It's soo hard for me to root for this guy.
Quote from: Rome on September 12, 2010, 07:01:21 PM
season's over. time to move on.
See you on the phils thread.
Start Vick.
COME ON DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
i told you it was over.
Quote from: joneszilla on September 12, 2010, 07:03:36 PM
Man, i hate Vick. It's soo hard for me to root for this guy.
I don't root for him any more than I rooted for Trotter. I'm thrilled when something good happens, but annoyed that he's out there when it happens.
ALLLLLEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNN!!!!
COME ON VICK!!!!!
Nate Allen must have a concussion too, based on that return.
The D is the only saving grace for this abysmal game.
Getting a little exciting here.
shouldn't you be ironing your mcnabb skins jersey?
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 07:05:36 PM
Quote from: joneszilla on September 12, 2010, 07:03:36 PM
Man, i hate Vick. It's soo hard for me to root for this guy.
I don't root for him any more than I rooted for Trotter. I'm thrilled when something good happens, but annoyed that he's out there when it happens.
This.
Ray Lewis will never be Isaiah Mustafa.
Look at Parker on the sidline all jacked up.
D. jAckson is dying to score.
Come on clowns, lets get it done here
perfect screen pass call.
beeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuteeeeeeeeeeful
The upcoming turnover is really going to sting.
This is the best comeback I've ever seen led by a QB who can't throw.
Perfect screen there.
A beaut, Clark.
One way ticket on a rocket ship to the sun for this OL. Almost knocked vick out. :boom
Get the ball in here.
Its amazing they have all their timeouts
I doubt the Eagles will win...but the Packers should be embarrassed that it's even this close, all things considered.
ok hurry up the clock is ticking.
f the shovel pass.
Wait! Wasn't this over in the 3rd?
farg the shovel pass!
run that the farg in...
Vick shoulda just ran that in.
Holy shtein--- why not run there?
OHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Should have RUN!!!!!!!
Joke. My 80 year old mother could have walked that in.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 12, 2010, 07:14:18 PM
Joke. My 80 year old mother could have walked that in.
A fair point, but she'd have broken her hip trying to recover from that slip in the pocket.
Really not sure why Vick didn't run that in.
game over now. ST will give up a nice return and packers will run the clock out as the D shteins the bed.
Onsides kick coming up?
4 games in 11 days at the Linc? Wonderful.
How about NOT allowing a 50 yarder here, eh?
wow the cover team is terrible.
Gone after today - Buckley, kick off team
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 12, 2010, 07:14:18 PM
Joke. My 80 year old mother could have walked that in.
A fair point, but she'd have broken her hip trying to recover from that slip in the pocket.
Jason Peters would have probably gotten her killed.
Using TOs now?
Why?
Bad timeout.
Are you new here?
Reid is just a farging genius.
classic dumb timeout called.
Andy doin' his time mismanagement thang...
A fumble would be pretty handy here.
Quote from: Zanshin on September 12, 2010, 07:19:45 PM
Are you new here?
:-D
Feels like the 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002...........
Andy: 3 timeouts...shiiiiitttt, I can burn 4!!!
they were going to let him have it back but he used it anyway?
Nice play call there to help raise that false hope.
nice hold. Let's go O!
good stop here. 4 minutes, no TO, and vick to drive the team.
Puppy Hitler needs to learn how to slide.
Ready, Kafka?
Holy shtein... 4th and 1.
Ok, who wants to be in charge of keeping us updated on possible first round OL prospects? This is just a travesty.
Vick fakes the dive on 4th and 1 and goes up top to DJax
they need to hurry up the offense. no where near the endzone and no timeouts.
oh and gotta convert the 4rth down as well of course.
If a pass is called here, Reid should just not show up at the presser.
Over.
game over.
Well, that's it.
Terrible play call.
When everything's on the line, you can count on Andy to stack the deck with great play calling.
That was kind of fun while it lasted.
a totally laughable play call.
I like my play better. Ahh well...
Such a farging creative playcall, Andy! Fat POS!!
Everyone in the building had to know that was coming right?
A player who's speed is his game, have him run straight ahead into a crowded interior.
Smart. Don't have him run outside or anything.
Agreed, Rome. Spot the defense a few yards with a shotgun snap, then run right into the pile. What the hell?
The season was a lot of fun until kickoff vs. The Packers
Well ultimately they were competitive which is all I wanted...
However, they were competitive in the absolute worst fashion imaginable. Nice 4th down play call there. Losing Weaver was huge.
Reid is just a farging complete idiot. Moron who still can't figure it out. How do you burn 3 of your timeouts with 5 minutes left to play?
Wonderful opening effort
Mike Vick need to be the QB
Andy Reid needs to be harpooned
So, running the ball sets up the passing game? Who knew? Not Andy.
(http://www.freewebs.com/thesuffering/dynamite.zip_thumbnail1.jpg74177245-F5A0-458F-863FE15002204420.jpgLarge.jpg)
For the O-line, 'special' special teams, and Andy's playcalling and time management.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 12, 2010, 07:35:25 PM
Reid is just a farging complete idiot. Moron who still can't figure it out. How do you burn 3 of your timeouts with 5 minutes left to play?
For a change I understand why he burned the timeouts. Not all of them, but I understand why he used them. If the Pack converted and/or scored he was trying to salvage some time for a last ditch drive. It actually played out well. The TOs were inconsequential to the fact that they still can't convert in short yardage situations.
Quote from: King Cole on September 12, 2010, 07:32:48 PM
A player who's speed is his game, have him run straight ahead into a crowded interior.
Smart. Don't have him run outside or anything.
Vick could have skipped outside for the first down.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 12, 2010, 07:35:25 PM
Reid is just a farging complete idiot. Moron who still can't figure it out. How do you burn 3 of your timeouts with 5 minutes left to play?
and then they tried to give him the TO back and he still took it.
and i just cant even get angry anymore about the playcalling. that last call..we all knew it was coming. shotgun qb sneak when the whole world knows its coming. brilliant.
Awful play call
Awful blocking
Awful all around
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 12, 2010, 07:38:20 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 12, 2010, 07:35:25 PM
Reid is just a farging complete idiot. Moron who still can't figure it out. How do you burn 3 of your timeouts with 5 minutes left to play?
and then they tried to give him the TO back and he still took it.
He wanted the time over the timeout in case they scored/ converted. You don't have to like it but it made sense why he did that. He gambled and won there. If they'd converted the 4th down and scored no one would mention the timeouts. The offense had more time because of what he did, not less.
Quote from: NC_Eagle on September 12, 2010, 07:37:02 PM
So, running the ball sets up the passing game? Who knew? Not Andy.
(http://www.freewebs.com/thesuffering/dynamite.zip_thumbnail1.jpg74177245-F5A0-458F-863FE15002204420.jpgLarge.jpg)
For the O-line, 'special' special teams, and Andy's playcalling and time management.
And don't forget the ensuing post game comments from fatty.
Jamaal Jackson out for season with torn bicep.
Quote from: King Cole on September 12, 2010, 07:43:46 PM
Jamaal Jackson out for season with torn bicep.
Good lord... it never ends.
Actually... the line did play better with McGlynn in there and once Peters was gone too. Blessing in disguise maybe.
Quote from: King Cole on September 12, 2010, 07:43:46 PM
Jamaal Jackson out for season with torn bicep.
What is this I don't even
is anyone else watching the rams/cards game?
classic clock mismanagement by spagnuolo. i wonder where he learned that from?
Reid: "If King Jesus Kevin is healthy, he starts next week."
Phreak: 'Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"
Quote from: Rome on September 12, 2010, 07:46:07 PM
is anyone else watching the rams/cards game?
I'm spending my night brushing up on video game lore. I'll think of it as a nerd errand.
how in the world did the ST get worse? wasnt April supposed to make them better?
i knew this season was low expectations and see how kolb develops but this game still hurts like crazy cause packers were there for the taking.
terrible ST play, no run game still, kolb stinking it up, and reid with the terrible play calls and clock management.
If the Packers are as good as most people say they are, the Eagles might not be so bad?
Haha, JK. 2-14.
2-14 means #1 overall pick. That wouldn't be too bad.
just to slide on in here:
THEY WEREN'T WINNING DICK THIS YEAR WITH MCNABB, MANNING, MONTANA, HAVAS, WHATEVER. KOLB SUCKED TODAY BUT YOU NEED TO BE PATIENT AND GIVE HIM A HANDFUL OF GAMES BEFORE THROWING HIM UNDER THE BUS*
*mcnabb style
im not reading this thread but:
kolb was awful, he needs more snaps, it's the only way he'll get better. mcnabb was zesty his first year too.
dline was decent, got pressure with out blitzes.
secondary blows.
RUN THE fargING BALL
Quote from: SunMo on September 12, 2010, 08:07:36 PM
im not reading this thread but:
kolb was awful, he needs more snaps, it's the only way he'll get better. mcnabb was zesty his first year too.
dline was decent, got pressure with out blitzes.
secondary blows.
RUN THE fargING BALL
McNabb did not sit on the bench to learn for 3 yrs and start with a pro bowl WR and TE and decent RB. But yeah other than that exactly the same.
it's embarrassing how much you defend him.
it doesn't matter how much you learn the offense on the bench, you need to play the farging game for real to get better.
mcnabb also didn't have to run in and out to satisfy the head coaches ego for "creative offense"
Didn't like how Kolb was pulled in and out in the first half. I don't care who you are you can't get a rhythm that way. Also what a horrible call on fourth and 1.
how is it possible that reid still hasn't learned that running the ball is a must especially with a starting quarterback who isn't a seasoned veteran?
Quote from: Rome on September 12, 2010, 08:21:22 PM
how is it possible that reid still hasn't learned that running the ball is a must especially with a starting quarterback who isn't a seasoned veteran?
He's outsmarting the opposing defenses, you see.
Reid overcaoched the shtein out of this game.
Some parts seemed to be undercoached. Like perhaps timeout management.
Quote from: SunMo on September 12, 2010, 08:11:57 PM
it's embarrassing how much you defend him.
it doesn't matter how much you learn the offense on the bench, you need to play the farging game for real to get better.
mcnabb also didn't have to run in and out to satisfy the head coaches ego for "creative offense"
I dont care about defending McNabb. I feel bad for Kolb that he has to play this dumb as hell coach who thinks with a new guy in he can continue to run the same offense he did under McNabb. I know they are not calling it re building but now they are acting like it too. And I am sorry if I compare Kolb to McNabb when all off season all I have heard is how McNabb just throws to the ground and how accurate Kolb is and hits everyone in stride. BS. He does need time and he needs a year or two before we can fully judge him but sadly Reid even does not believe that. And on top of that you Vick coming in every other play. Even if Kolb played well and was not hurt Reid would have fumbled the game away with his zesty calls and time management.
I cannot believe the injuries.
What a shut ass game. Way to have them ready to go, Andy.
j if the phillies lose tomorrow is that it for you
Not letting Kolb establish a rythym and throwing Vick in there every other play was simply retarded. I thought Vick played well, Kolb not so much. He had time and open receivers but didn't make plays. The injuries and penalties were a disgrace. Ugly farging game.
holy over overanylazaion bat man
Well, since I'm not bashful about my loyalties, I've had to answer a lot of questions in Chitown about how bad are the Eagles gonna suck. My stock answer through this week was I have no idea; everyone's new, and the oline is a mess. They could go 2-14 or 10-6, who knows?
Now we got a pretty good idea. Yikes.
They weren't going 10-6.
Quote from: MMH on September 12, 2010, 10:29:12 PM
Well, since I'm not bashful about my loyalties, I've had to answer a lot of questions in Chitown about how bad are the Eagles gonna suck. My stock answer through this week was I have no idea; everyone's new, and the oline is a mess. They could go 2-14 or 10-6, who knows?
Now we got a pretty good idea. Yikes.
Tell 'em the Eagles should be right up there with the Bears this season.
So y'all still think McNabb was the SOLE reason the Eagles didn't win a SB?
Or are some of you ready to admit that yeah, that fat farging waste of air and space had a hell of a lot to do with it?
That game was maddening to watch. I loathe Reid.
It's been said here already but deserves repeating.......bad game plan for the young QB doomed Kolb's effectiveness early in that game.
I get the coaching staff wanted to protect the young QB however they did him no favors by not letting him get into a rhythm. He played two good games last year without being fancy and shuttling in Vick. They didn't have to do that today.
That is all on the coaches.
Props to the defensive coaches. All in all the D played a good game.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 12, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
So y'all still think McNabb was the SOLE reason the Eagles didn't win a SB?
Or are some of you ready to admit that yeah, that fat farging waste of air and space had a hell of a lot to do with it?
That game was maddening to watch. I loathe Reid.
No one on this board has ever said McNabb was the sole reason. I don't think you will find any Reid apologists on this board. He definitely makes some dumb calls....like today.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 12, 2010, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 12, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
So y'all still think McNabb was the SOLE reason the Eagles didn't win a SB?
Or are some of you ready to admit that yeah, that fat farging waste of air and space had a hell of a lot to do with it?
That game was maddening to watch. I loathe Reid.
No one on this board has ever said McNabb was the sole reason. I don't think you will find any Reid apologists on this board. He definitely makes some dumb calls....like today.
I've wanted Reid gone longer then I've wanted them to get rid of McNabb. All they've done is get rid of half the problem.
At least McNabb is looking like McNabb up in Washington if that's vindication to anyone...
Why is this thread stuck at the top of the forum? Is it a sticky?
It was, yes. Probably a misclick.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 12, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
So y'all still think McNabb was the SOLE reason the Eagles didn't win a SB?
Or are some of you ready to admit that yeah, that fat farging waste of air and space had a hell of a lot to do with it?
That game was maddening to watch. I loathe Reid.
I am now 100% sold that the fat ass is the reason this team never won a SB. This shtein just gets worse every year. The only thing saving him today is that there were so many bad games during week 1.
Pick a farging QB and play him. Stop this in and out bullshtein. One thing I didn't notice when I was at the game but noticed watching the replay was every play Kolb looks to the sideline confused as to whether or not he should come out. What an added farging annoyance when you're worried about running an offense.
I'm aboard the Kolb boat whether it sinks or sails, but there's zero doubt in my mind this team makes it further with Vick this season than it does with him.
makes it further to 8-8? sign me up for that.
Vick makes them a wild card team in the very least. Teams have to account for his legs too. He's not the best QB in the league but he's more experienced than Kolb and yesterday showed his decision making isn't as bad as it was 5 years ago.
This thread is still lacking a Stumblin' Stew gif. Ed get on that shtein
Quote from: SD on September 13, 2010, 04:25:17 AM... yesterday showed his decision making isn't as bad as it was 5 years ago.
You mean, when he threw to the only covered man out of four options in the endzone? Or on the same play, declining the open field in front of him?
Quote from: Don Ho on September 13, 2010, 02:08:20 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 12, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
So y'all still think McNabb was the SOLE reason the Eagles didn't win a SB?
Or are some of you ready to admit that yeah, that fat farging waste of air and space had a hell of a lot to do with it?
That game was maddening to watch. I loathe Reid.
I am now 100% sold that the fat ass is the reason this team never won a SB. This shtein just gets worse every year. The only thing saving him today is that there were so many bad games during week 1.
I enjoyed watching him look at his play calling sheet with 1:30 to go, no time outs left, didn't have the ball and the Packers were taking a knee :-D what the hell kind of play you gonna call there fat ass.
Maybe he was frustrated because the ink ran on his playcard, because it wasn't laminated.
He sure coached like it.
PG, no one EVER said McNabb was the sole reason, he played a part just like Reid. Everyone agreed that ONE of them had to go. I, like many fans, would have chosen Reid to go before McNabb Once Reid was extended last year, the die was cast for Donovan to move on.
All anyone ever said this year was that it was exciting to see what a new quarterback could possibly do, especially with the skill players on this offense. And it's way too early to be giving up on him. I still think he'll be fine.
i think cobb is horrible and id still rather have gone with him than mcnabb
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 12, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
So y'all still think McNabb was the SOLE reason the Eagles didn't win a SB?
please cite where this was ever said by anyone
Everyone called for McNabb's head, NOT Reid's. Hence my reasoning behind my post (and not just here, the city's overall sentiment in general).
people starting calling for McNabb more after Reid's extension when it became clear that Reid was not going anywhere.
Plenty of us would have preferred to see Reid go over McNabb, and said so early and often. Me, for example.
But if Reid wasn't going to go then McNabb had to.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2010, 09:23:49 AM
Everyone called for McNabb's head, NOT Reid's. Hence my reasoning behind my post (and not just here, the city's overall sentiment in general).
and that was the correct decision.....but the main reason for that is because even the biggest reid haters know there is no chance of him being fired...probably ever but definitely not last year
I told myself yesterday that I wouldn't read this shtein because I knew certain people would be here crying about Kolb and McNabb and I-told-you-soing. He had one bad half of football. Made two atrocious decisions and had no time to operate in the pocket against a team that is one of the most talented in the league. Settle down, monkeys.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 13, 2010, 09:25:59 AM
Plenty of us would have preferred to see Reid go over McNabb, and said so early and often. Me, for example.
But if Reid wasn't going to go then McNabb had to.
and this I agree with. Its just that I'd rather bang my head on a brick wall until blood flies out than watch a game with Reid as coach.
That game completely TYPIFIED an Andy Reid game. From start to finish. Blatant lack of judgment, blatant misuse of the timeouts, awful time management, awful playcalling, etc.
And rjs...its not a Kolb thing. I'm not complaining about Kolb or comparing him to McNabb. I'm talking about Reid. PERIOD.
i think Kolbwebs will be fine
I said settle down. Monkeys.
Some of you mentioned that this season is to see if Kolb can play and that if he sucks they have to re-start. You seriously believe that? I say they give him, and they should, at least 2 seasons. They did re do his contract. Just for the love of all that makes sense run the ball and stop taking him out every other play.
Quote from: 4and26 on September 12, 2010, 11:01:27 PM
It's been said here already but deserves repeating.......bad game plan for the young QB doomed Kolb's effectiveness early in that game.
I get the coaching staff wanted to protect the young QB however they did him no favors by not letting him get into a rhythm. He played two good games last year without being fancy and shuttling in Vick. They didn't have to do that today.
That is all on the coaches.
Props to the defensive coaches. All in all the D played a good game.
Exactly. The offensive coaches coached scared. If Kolb was the man, then let him run the offense. We will see how Vick does next week but at this point he may be the best option with a swiss cheese O-line.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 13, 2010, 06:58:29 AM
Quote from: SD on September 13, 2010, 04:25:17 AM... yesterday showed his decision making isn't as bad as it was 5 years ago.
You mean, when he threw to the only covered man out of four options in the endzone? Or on the same play, declining the open field in front of him?
no I'm talking about the almost 300 yards of offense he racked up in one half of football. I watched the replay, he only ran out of the pocket when he had to - which was often because this O-line is so bad right now I don't know how Reid can expect to keep a pocket passer alive the entire season. He completed %66 of his passes too.
But yes, the play you're referring too was his fault.
Actually I dont know if Reid coached scared. He coached as if nothing matters. Take him out one play, put him back the other, pass out of Shotgun most of the time, and ignore the run still. Thats not coaching scared, thats your typical stupid Reid coaching/calling.
Coaching scared would have meant running the ball and playing the field position game.
Gargano is killing Reid/Marty for the play calling
no early rhythm throws to get Kolb into the game.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 13, 2010, 09:50:13 AM
Some of you mentioned that this season is to see if Kolb can play and that if he sucks they have to re-start. You seriously believe that? I say they give him, and they should, at least 2 seasons. They did re do his contract. Just for the love of all that makes sense run the ball and stop taking him out every other play.
im not saying 100% get rid of him if he sucks this year but it really doesnt take more than 16 starts to tell if a guy has it
Quote from: SunMo on September 13, 2010, 10:08:17 AM
Gargano is killing Reid/Marty for the play calling
no early rhythm throws to get Kolb into the game.
hes not wrong in this case but because he hung out with cobb in texas dont expect him to ever really get into the quarterback and if it comes to the qb or reid hes gonna go after reid everytime
Quote from: SunMo on September 13, 2010, 10:08:17 AM
Gargano is killing Reid/Marty for the play calling
no early rhythm throws to get Kolb into the game.
How bout starting with "hey Kevin, you're the starter, don't bother looking on the sideline every play to see if you should come out of the game".
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2010, 10:12:46 AM
Quote from: SunMo on September 13, 2010, 10:08:17 AM
Gargano is killing Reid/Marty for the play calling
no early rhythm throws to get Kolb into the game.
hes not wrong in this case but because he hung out with cobb in texas dont expect him to ever really get into the quarterback and if it comes to the qb or reid hes gonna go after reid everytime
yeah, Kolb is the apple of his eye right now, no doubt
i just can't believe that Reidtard didn't call any wr screens or rb screens to help Kolb out early on. just baffling.
There was a lot baffling about that game. Like calling all three timeouts with so much time left. I don't understand how he can't get the concept of appropriate ways to use them.
Not to mention the horrible 4th and 1 call. Everybody in the world knew what was coming.
Also like SD said a guy who for the first time is deemed the starter and he keeps getting pulled in and out. He basically played less than a quarter and a half.
Kolb was throwing into double teams even when he had time. The other times he was running scared. I would be looking over to the sideline too to come out.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 13, 2010, 09:25:59 AM
Plenty of us would have preferred to see Reid go over McNabb, and said so early and often. Me, for example.
But if Reid wasn't going to go then McNabb had to.
:yay
Quote from: SunMo on September 13, 2010, 10:32:38 AM
i just can't believe that Reidtard didn't call any wr screens or rb screens to help Kolb out early on. just baffling.
even more baffling cause he did for Vick and they worked really well.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2010, 10:09:24 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 13, 2010, 09:50:13 AM
Some of you mentioned that this season is to see if Kolb can play and that if he sucks they have to re-start. You seriously believe that? I say they give him, and they should, at least 2 seasons. They did re do his contract. Just for the love of all that makes sense run the ball and stop taking him out every other play.
im not saying 100% get rid of him if he sucks this year but it really doesnt take more than 16 starts to tell if a guy has it
Well yeah but you are talking about a coach who holds on to players who obviously have no talent simply cause they are "his guys". I really doubt its make it or break it for Kolb this season.
If Kolb plays like he did in the first half, he won't last through the season - probably due to injury but possibly due to benching.
yeah, say what you will about rhythm...in order to establish a rhythm, you have to get started somewhere, and he never even got started. His throws were off target and many times into coverage. He looked terrible.
Don't know how anyone is surprised at that though. Everyone saw this coming if Reid kept running the offense the same way he ran it with McNabb. The oline was gonna get Kolb killed that way. I just thought it'd take longer than a half of football to do so.
Reid/Morningwood: 4th & 1 and they have the fastest quarterback in the history of the sport run out of the shotgun right into the middle of line with the defense stacked from tackle to tackle.
Just incredible.
Nothing tops the use of a timeout when given the option to not use it because the refs stopped the clock for a measurement. Nothing. Ever. I mean, if that isn't season over, I don't know what is.
I read his lips and the referee asked him if he wanted to use the timeout, and he said, "yeah, we'll just take the timeout".
Now I know why I don't watch the games at the house. I almost threw my beer bottle through the fricken tv.
All i know is KDS said he would eat my shtein if the eagles held the packers to 27points as i predicted.
So how do want your poo served pal ?
The only thing that matters is that Andy Reid is a fraud. He has consistently failed time and time again. If he was a player, he'd be cut in camp. Hasn't he proven enough to the higher up's that he just does not know the game of football? No even a new QB or Vick can keep me thinking positively about the team anymore. He will call bad plays, make horrible game decisions and will not adapt or change ANYTHING about his coaching. We should of won yesterday, but he wasted all timeouts in less than a minute with 5 left. Then the 4 and 1 QB sneak play. Who the farg owns this god damn team? How does Andy Reid get away with this!! Is Joseph Smith, Jr. running this farging team from hell or what. I cannot take it anymore. The fat man must go. If the is a God, he will farging murder Andy Reid.
Ryan Grant is now done for the year too (Justin Harrell is gone with a torn ACL)
high ankle sprain + fracture near his knee
4 guys done for the year and 2 with concussions. Rough game...
the owners need their money
shut up easy you scab
It's funny/ strange how no one is talking about the SUper Bowl bound Packers having just lost their number one back for the year yet the Philly braindeads are topping the airwaves all over the place.
If they go to an 18 game schedule, you're going to need 70 man rosters
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 14, 2010, 03:13:28 PM
It's funny/ strange how no one is talking about the SUper Bowl bound Packers having just lost their number one back for the year yet the Philly braindeads are topping the airwaves all over the place.
That's probably because Brandon Jackson looked better than Grant did.
Domo:
QuoteSome Eagles blitz numbers from GB game: Sent xtra rushers on just 14 of 67 plays, but held Rodgers to 49.9 passer rating when they blitzed.
I really have very few complaints with the defense overall. Glad they didn't get so blitz-wacky.
Agreed, the defense just has to get better at keeping points off the board. That used to be their bread and butter, they would give up yards but not points.
Only gripe besides the pathetic play calling is the kick off team. Pretty much handed the game to the Packers.
Quote from: charlie on September 14, 2010, 03:22:50 PM
If they go to an 18 game schedule, you're going to need 70 man rosters
Exactly. Never happen though, 99.9% chance the players would strike/walk out if that was seriously tabled.
its going 18....the players would go for a 26 game schedule if they got caked off enough
i also think the injury thing is overrated
yes more people will get injured in an 18 game schedule because its two more games not because players will be more injury prone in those games
for example there wont be more injuries in games 17 and 18 than there are in games 4 and 5
lol, love 99.9% chance it doesn't happen. more like 1000% chance it does happen.
how do injuries in week 1 prove anything about week 17 and 18?
i just love the random weeks getting thrown around.
Adding more games to the schedule is going to hurt a lot of things about the game, but it's gonna happen because money trumps all.
Players are going to have shorter careers. In high school they play, 8 or 9 games a year, college is 10-11 games, and then to jump to the pros where you're going to play in 18 games? PLus preseason, then 4 potential weeks of playoffs? a single player could go from 11 games to 24 games in a year. You watch the average careers plummet.
Adding two more games weakens the schedule, and waters down the division play... yada yada yada...
But the players get more money, the teams get more money, the fans get to watch more, so it's all good.
please keep your posts under 20 words
thank you
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2010, 09:42:12 AM
please keep your posts under 20 words
thank you
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I actually doubt that "careers will be shortened". In terms of games played and money earned per player, they'll be lengthened. More careers end due to getting too old and losing your skills than due to catastrophic injury. These guys will have a chance to play more games when they are young and in peak condition.
Every eight years of 2 extra games buys a player one year of earlier retirement, if they want it. [Assuming they get paid for the extra games, which they definitely will.]
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2010, 07:50:36 AM
its going 18....the players would go for a 26 game schedule if they got caked off enough
i also think the injury thing is overrated
yes more people will get injured in an 18 game schedule because its two more games not because players will be more injury prone in those games
for example there wont be more injuries in games 17 and 18 than there are in games 4 and 5
Exactly...look how many people got hurt in week 1.
An 18 game schedule will allow a player who got hurt in week 14, 15, or 16 to come back in time to play in meaningful end of season games or the playoffs
Quote from: charlie on September 15, 2010, 09:21:20 AM
But the players get more money, the teams get more money, the fans get to watch more, so it's all good.
This is all that matters.
All the whining about injuries to "star" players? Well, expanded rosters means more players. There's any number of low round/ undrafted players every year that make NFL rosters and become stars. Being a name isn't what's important. Hell most "fans" don't know half the players on their own team. They root for the uniform. All these bleeding hearts for the players maybe getting hurt more are so full of it it's ridiculous. The bitch and moan about some guy that makes millions of dollars *maybe* getting hurt while at the same time they cheer wildly when someone on their team makes a big hit. The hypocrisy is unreal.
So when Indy or the Pats or whoever the dominant teams are at the time lock up their division in week 13-14 of an 18 game season and play their scrubs for the remaining 4-6 games of the season so their starters go into the playoffs rested/healed, how is that good for football as a whole again?
If they win enough games early on to be able to rest players and cruise to the playoffs what's the problem? If the Eagles managed to lock up the division by week 12 and rest players for the last 6 games of the season to have "stars"/ starters healthy for a championship run would you seriously complain? Why should any team be penalized for being good and winning games? Besides, how many times have the Colts locked up the AFC South early and fizzled in the playoffs. They've only won 1 Superbowl.
Every team in the league fields the same amount of players and any given team can win the Superbowl every year. That's why the sport is so popular. Being dominant in today's NFL means jack. Look no further than the 18-1 New England Patriots. Being dominant throughout the year helped them a whole lot in the Super Bowl, didn't it?
I believe what he's saying is the product on the field for those games would have a pre-season feel to it...aka zesty
I know what he's saying but the truth of the matter is there's no way to force a competitive balance which is the real issue behind arguments like that. It's a straw man and something that cannot be enforced no matter what the league does (ie placing divisional games at the end of the schedule).
Every year there are going to be games that are not exciting no matter what standards are in place just like every year "star" players are going to get hurt. It's a reality of the game but it in no way diminishes the popularity of the sport. The fact remains there are no legitimate arguments against increasing the schedule. Honestly, I could care less either way, I'm just tired of the belly-aching and overreacting for something that's going to be done no matter what.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 15, 2010, 10:45:22 PM
The bitch and moan about some guy that makes millions of dollars *maybe* getting hurt while at the same time they cheer wildly when someone on their team makes a big hit. The hypocrisy is unreal.
very few major injuries occur because of big hits
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 16, 2010, 03:34:41 AM
Every year there are going to be games that are not exciting no matter what standards are in place
everyone knows this...what the peole against adding games are saying is that there is going to be substantially more meaningless games and wouldnt you want to have as few of them as possible each year
the fact of the matter is the 16 game schedule is perfection and it shouldnt be messed with no matter your reasons for being against it are
i can't believe there's a single nfl fan in the universe who wouldn't prefer 18 & 2 over 16 & 4.
i'm sure someone here will prove me wrong, though.
i cant believe there would be anyone for it other than possibly season ticket holders
the ONLY reason im not super pissed about it is that i get an extra regular season game to go to
two extra games means more over seas games which is more than awful
it basically voids statistical records
and while i dont agree with all the injury and meaningless game arguments the fact of the matter is that adding two games will make the season worse in certain ways where as right now its complete perfection
its a stupid money grab but we all already knew this so how upset can you really get
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 16, 2010, 07:52:06 AM
it basically voids statistical records
and while i dont agree with all the injury and meaningless game arguments the fact of the matter is that adding two games will make the season worse in certain ways where as right now its complete perfection
its a stupid money grab but we all already knew this so how upset can you really get
This is pretty much 100% on.