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Jessica Alba's ass says GO BIRDS!
it would be much obliged if you put a - btwn the teams in the thread title....huge pete peeve of mine and it drives me a little batty
- no -
please
gimme money.
thanks buttercup
its a huge pet peeve of mine when people tell me their pet peeves
my biggest pet peeve is the fact that i'll never gnaw on jessica alba's ass in my entire life.
my pet peeve is cable companies not providing the nfl network..anyone know if this game is streaming somewhere?
Quote from: Die-Hard on August 27, 2010, 07:05:18 PM
my pet peeve is cable companies not providing the nfl network..anyone know if this game is streaming somewhere?
DirecTV. Streams it right into my living room.
phils eagles late night double header FTDW
sweet got it on atdhe..i love preseason
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 27, 2010, 07:20:05 PM
phils eagles late night double header FTDW
Yeah, until Kolb and the O scores 9 points on 3 FG's and the Phils put up a 2 spot :puke
Quote from: Die-Hard on August 27, 2010, 07:36:00 PM
sweet got it on atdhe..i love preseason
That site has been a lifesaver for out of town sports for a while. I think they got it running out of Sweden or some other country that blocks it from being shut down. Always check it if you can't get a particular game.
someone told me about it during the stanley cup and it is literally the only reason i caught most of the flyers playoff run..great site indeed
I'm thinking KC might not be very good this year.
Shaddddy
Mosher:
QuoteDeSean Jackson took a hard hit on the Eagles' first play. He's not in the huddle right now.
I thought Maclin was the pussssssie?
Jackson upper back injury - will not return.
Lindley playing johnny on the spot with in the tip drill
Awesome news on pimp :boom
Two runs on 1st and 2nd down to set up a 3rd and 2.
Pass?
And now Weaver is hurt after Wost Manneans falls on him
Neat.
Weaver's back in already. GOAT
There was PI, holding, and illegal contact on that play.
Maclin was straight raped.
Kolb's gonna be doing a lot of running for his life this year.
That ball had real good zip on it. It was also 10 feet over Maclins head but farg it.
Quote from: Munson on August 27, 2010, 08:36:44 PM
Kolb's gonna be doing a lot of running for his life this year.
He was hit from the backside, didn't cough up the ball, and made the first down? farg you Donovan McFumble.
Again the Eagles struggle in the Palermo's Red Zone™.
how do you get the TM superscript?
I'm on a Mac, so it's opt-2. Windows, it's Alt-0153.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 27, 2010, 08:41:41 PM
how do you get the TM superscript?
MessageBoardFail
DIO
Bobby April gonna hafta choke a bitch.
this timeout is a real andy special
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 27, 2010, 08:43:05 PM
I'm on a Mac, so it's opt-2. Windows, it's Alt-0153.
Word, thanks.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 27, 2010, 08:43:52 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 27, 2010, 08:41:41 PM
how do you get the TM superscript?
MessageBoardFailDIO
I know how to us [ sup ] you icehole. Quote his post and you'll see he didn't use that command.
Going deep on 3rd and 2. Let's hope Andy's getting it out of his system.
Chiefs tix still on sale for $30.00/tix. Damn. :-\
STUDEBAKER!
Quote from: Die-Hard on August 27, 2010, 07:36:00 PM
sweet got it on atdhe..i love preseason
Good shtein man. Thank you!
Nice to have Stewart Bradley back.
Nice to have dumb penalties back.
I don't even know how it's possible to get called for delay of game while readying for a punt return.
Asante trying to prove Scrappy wrong
wow injuries
The good Cole getting carted off to get x-rays
STUDEBAKERRRRRRRRRRR
stop me if you've heard this one before: False start, # 71
Maclin is a bitch and peters is an all time bust move
Quote from: SunMo on August 27, 2010, 09:26:10 PM
Maclin is a bitch and peters is an all time bust move
Dio disagrees
Bell just got Bush'd
Soooo...Kolb makes it to week 6 before he gets hurt? Dude is gonna get destroyed by any real defense in the NFL.
18 games like this next year...Yippeee!!
Hall's getting cut after tonight
The other CF mourns.
Kolbsy with an INT. farg.
Kafka leads the come back. Riley Cooper. lol
I'm watching the game on NFL Network right now. Just started the 2nd half and all I've got to say is that these guys don't look too farging good. 1st half was pretty awful. Not only is the football ugly, but the dude in charge of down and distance banner on the screen really sucks at his job.
I missed the play were Cole got hurt. What happened?
The offensive line is absolutely putrid.
Joe Montana couldn't put up 200 with those douchebags in front of him.
PU-TRID.
Hey guys, I didn't watch the game, but I heard the offensive line was awesome. Any updates?
6 - 10 might be generous. Yes it's only pre-season but we better hope AR is serving up extra scoops of vanilla cause dat was ugly.
They should really consider parting with a mid round pick for some RG help, Stacey Andrews doesn't belong in the league.
it really is astounding how bad he is. i don't know if it's because he's a fat lazy farg or maybe he's just pissed at the way they treated his mongrel brother, but he's definitely got to go.
Quote from: Don Ho on August 28, 2010, 03:15:29 AM
6 - 10 might be generous. Yes it's only pre-season but we better hope AR is serving up extra scoops of vanilla cause dat was ugly.
You would think that after 11 years, just once the fans will have some memory of previous pre seasons.
I don't remember any of Reids teams being this bad in preseason. Yes they've been boring, yes they've been beaten badly, but this team is just inept right now. The special teams can't cover kickoffs, the offensive line couldn't block a college team, and the defense is so small it'll be out of gas by week 8.
OK, maybe that last point is normal, but it's still not looking good. I agree with SD that its time to move a decent pick for a RG.
Its as if they can't field good-great skill position players without sacrificing good OLINE play.
Yeah, it's an apparent seesaw with Reid.
I'm usually one to beat the "relax, it's preseason" drum. But these guys look like farging shif.
The OL is a sieve, the quarterback is less than stellar and the running game leaves a lot to be desired
How can you judge any QB that is getting chased around like that. He had about the same protection McNabb had in Dallas in the playoffs and still looked better.
I was hoping the WR screen would be used more often this season. Then Jackson went and got his bell rung, and I figured they could probably do without it.
they werent winning the super bowl this year even all of these things were better
lower your expectations and you wont get so mad
there is nothing to be disappointed about because there was nothing there anyway
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 28, 2010, 01:08:53 PM
The OL is a sieve. Thus, the quarterback is less than stellar and the running game leaves a lot to be desired.
Better.
Here we go with the excuses already. ::)
Anyway, pretty sure people here saw this coming. Kolb can be elusive, but obviously not enough to survive this offense the way that Reid likes to run it. He seemed to stand in the face of pressure pretty good early, but as the game went on he got more and more happy feet/jittery back there. ASking him to pass 40, 45 times a game is going to get him killed behind this line. And at this point, running the ball more doesn't look like a valid option because the line can't seem to block for that either.
Here's hoping Jackson gets back ASAP and they can plug Cole in at guard.
I thought Kolb showed a lot of poise and some elusiveness when needed. There was one play where he was pretty much bottled up inside the pocket and next thing you know, he pops up out of the left side and runs for a 1st down. Reminded me of Duce vs the Giants back in 98.
I think just about any QB would have gotten happy feet last night as the game wore on too. By mid-second quarter, he knew before every passing play that he was going to have to either get rid of it immediately or start running. The o-line is going to be this team's biggest downfall this year and is probably the worst line they've had since Randall was under center.
The defense, imo, isn't dramatically different than anything we've seen over the last 10 years. It's small and fast in the front 7 and there's a hoyda in the defensive backfield who is afraid to tackle. But with the o-line looking absolutely putrid, clock eating drives are going to be hard to come by. You're going to see quick touchdowns and 3 and outs with this offense but not much in between. The only way this defense is going to be effective is if they manage to create a lot of turnovers and get themselves off the field because I don't think the offense is going to give them much rest.
One thing the defense has going for it though is that the special teams will give them plenty of short fields to defend, so offenses should be able to score quickly rather than beating them up for 75 yards at a time.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 28, 2010, 03:28:45 PM
I thought Kolb showed a lot of poise and some elusiveness when needed. There was one play where he was pretty much bottled up inside the pocket and next thing you know, he pops up out of the left side and runs for a 1st down. Reminded me of Duce vs the Giants back in 98.
I think just about any QB would have gotten happy feet last night as the game wore on too. By mid-second quarter, he knew before every passing play that he was going to have to either get rid of it immediately or start running. The o-line is going to be this team's biggest downfall this year and is probably the worst line they've had since Randall was under center.
The defense, imo, isn't dramatically different than anything we've seen over the last 10 years. It's small and fast in the front 7 and there's a hoyda in the defensive backfield who is afraid to tackle. But with the o-line looking absolutely putrid, clock eating drives are going to be hard to come by. You're going to see quick touchdowns and 3 and outs with this offense but not much in between. The only way this defense is going to be effective is if they manage to create a lot of turnovers and get themselves off the field because I don't think the offense is going to give them much rest.
One thing the defense has going for it though is that the special teams will give them plenty of short fields to defend, so offenses should be able to score quickly rather than beating them up for 75 yards at a time.
Blah, sounds like last year. Can't wait.
Pretty much. Main difference will be that last year, the 3 and outs were primarily due to McNabb's inaccuracy. This year, they will be because of Kolb's inexperience and/or because he's a little less mobile than McNabb.
Reid is a mastermind of a coach. He will blow our minds once again week 1. Book it.
Quote from: mussa on August 28, 2010, 04:10:51 PM
Reid is a mastermind of a coach. He will blow our minds once again week 1. Book it.
Last week 1 vs the Pack, Reid figured anyone could return punts and it cost them the game. This time, he's figuring that anyone can play QB/RCB/C/RG and it'll cost them a season. Yay team.
youre telling me they are a donovan mcnabb away from winning the superbowl?
cause there are an enormous amount of problems with this team outside of the qb. in fact the qb isnt a problem, its a question mark. hes played 3 games in the nfl. give him some time my brotha.
Quote from: Butchers Bill on August 28, 2010, 09:39:26 AM
I don't remember any of Reids teams being this bad in preseason.
I can but the offensive line is even worse than usual. I'm not about to start fretting and fussing over preseason anything but the line is abysmal. They can't pick up a delayed blitz for shtein and *that's* been getting worse and worse over the years. I hope they're hiding some blocking schemes for the regular season because these dopes couldn't block a piece of wet tissue paper right now. I actually felt bad for Kolb last night the way he was getting clobbered back that. Shades of Aaron Roger's first year Packers line...
Quote from: KDS on August 28, 2010, 01:35:30 PM
they werent winning the super bowl this year even all of these things were better
lower your expectations and you wont get so mad
there is nothing to be disappointed about because there was nothing there anyway
I agree. Everything done this season should be geared toward going for it in 2011 or 2012. This is an experimental year. Wins and losses or playoffs/no playoffs is not important. What's important is development of Kolb, McCoy, Maclin, Cooper, Graham, Allen, and whoever else.
They basically started another "___ year plan" this offseason. Only this time it should only be about 3 years instead of 5 years. They won't admit it, but them blowing up half the roster is a direct admission of it.
realistically 2012 should be the next time you mention "eagles" and "super bowl" in the same sentence
When free agency is back to normal, next free agency period you know Andy Reid will go out and sign the biggest name offensive lineman out there. I only hope that player isn't coming off a torn ACL.
I think the line could be solid if Jackson comes back and plays ok. But this team's RG spot might be the worst in the NFL. Andrews and MJG are both two of the worst RGs I've ever seen.
The OL was a contributing factor in Kolb's struggles.
However, he was off. There were times when he had no pressure and still was way off target.
I am still very skeptical on him and Shady.
so he didnt have good accuracy?
does....that happen to ring a bell?
Yeah but with McNabb it was known that he'd be off at times. But when the crowd who loved McNabb being run out of town point out Kolb's strengths and why he'll be better the leading reason is always "oh he's so accurate" or "he puts the ball where his receivers can do something with it".
Yeah, neither of those things happened the other night and it all wasn't because of the OL issues.
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QuotePhil Sheridan: Kolb is a work in progress
By Phil Sheridan
Inquirer Columnist
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - For months now, we've been hearing experts real and self-deluded talk about Kevin Kolb as if he were some kind of Magic Texan who would heal the sick and restore yards-after-catch to the lame.
Kolb will get the ball out quickly.
Kolb will be more accurate.
Kolb won't throw at receivers' feet like that other guy always did.
Kolb is a natural leader who will motivate his teammates.
It took a trip to the Show Me State to show what some of us suspected all along: Kolb is too much of a work in progress to be a sure thing. We just haven't seen enough of him. It's as ludicrous to anoint him the next Tom Brady as it is to consign him to the Bobby Hoying ash heap.
During Kolb's performance Friday night in Kansas City, Hoying's ears must have been ringing. Of course, given the Eagles' inability to protect him, Kolb's probably were, too.
But that's what being an NFL quarterback is. Anyone can look accurate and confident during seven-on-seven drills in training camp. Anyone can stand tall and wait for a receiver to come free when he's wearing the red, touch-me-not jersey.
The real test is how you handle yourself when there's someone in your face every other snap. And then it's how you bounce back in Week 7 after getting knocked around in Weeks 1 through 6, when you have to stand in against the blitz even though your ribs already are throbbing.
Whatever your stance on Donovan McNabb as a quarterback, he was one of the toughest players ever to wear an Eagles uniform. He missed time with serious injuries, of course, but he played hurt plenty of times. And McNabb was fearless, sometimes to his own detriment.
Kolb just hasn't been through it all yet. Friday night, faced with his first real taste of in-game adversity, he looked anything but Magic.
Let's get the disclaimers out of the way: It is the preseason. The Eagles were not running their full offense, and they did not game-plan for the Chiefs the way they would in the regular season. DeSean Jackson left the game after one play. Jeremy Maclin played as if he didn't want to be out there. The offensive line was not good enough, and the blitz pickups were worse.
All of that is true. It's also beside the point here. This isn't about the things Kolb couldn't control. It's about how he handled the things he could.
As Kolb himself said of the loss of Jackson: "That's the kind of stuff that's going to happen. We have to be able to move forward with the guys we've got. That wasn't the reason for the lack of execution or the details that we missed."
There were plenty of those missed details throughout the game. Kolb did in fact throw one pass at a receiver's feet. He threw a poorly placed out that was dangerously close to being picked off and taken back for a touchdown. By his own accounting, he didn't recognize a couple of blitzes and make the appropriate hot throws.
But the most worrisome sequence came late in Kolb's three-quarter stint. He'd been through a rough night, taking some hits, seeing some balls dropped, missing a couple of open throws - the works. Now the Eagles took over at their own 14-yard line.
On first down, Kolb felt pressured and took off. He ran out of bounds for a 1-yard loss, which counted as his fourth sack of the game. On second and 11, Kolb underthrew Jason Avant over the middle. Linebacker Demorrio Williams wasn't prepared for the gift and dropped an easy interception.
On third down, feeling pressure again, Kolb stepped up in the pocket and launched a pass that was equal parts poor decision and poor throw. Safety Kendrick Lewis waited under it as if it were a punt and returned the interception to the Eagles' 26-yard line.
Kolb is going to have to go through situations like this, learn from them, and then - if he's able - make better decisions. There's no way to simulate all this in practice, when the red jersey is on.
This brings up the question of what is fair to expect. Kolb is a first-year starter. He also turned 26 last week. At 26, McNabb took the Eagles to their second of four consecutive NFC championship games. So it's fair to expect more from Kolb than from a rookie QB, but how much more?
In a way, the experts who have been overselling Kolb aren't doing him any favors. He's nicer to the writers and gives better quotes than McNabb, and that's fine. He still has to prove he can cope with the pressure - on the field and off - of running an NFL offense. That's going to take some time, even for the Magic Texan.
Contact columnist Phil Sheridan at 215-854-2844 or psheridan@phillynews.com. Read his recent work at http://go.philly.com/philsheridan.
Quote from: King Cole on August 28, 2010, 09:25:47 PM
I think the line could be solid if Jackson comes back and plays ok. But this team's RG spot might be the worst in the NFL. Andrews and MJG are both two of the worst RGs I've ever seen.
one day people will realize that jamal jackson isnt that good...yeah hes better than nik cole but to insinuate that hes some sort of savoir for the line is ridiculous...especially this year
Jackson is competent. Cole/McGlynn is not. Jackson gets the snap off and protects the middle, he's not a grater who's going to make a gaping hole in the middle of the field but he gets the job done. Right now they don't have that, I still wish they'd either sign a veteran like Mawae or make a trade, because I can't think of a more annoying situation to be in as a young QB than to have to worry about the snap or getting killed by a 300 lbs. DT.
Grader. The word you're looking for is grader. As in, one of those giant machines that grades the earth as it moves forward, pushing everything out of its way.
jackson is an average lineman with a broken knee....he gets a failing grade in my book
Your know-it-all schtick is grating on my farging nerves today.
Personally I think Mawae is doner than done, and that there probably aren't many options for the Eagles to pursue at center until next offseason. Even worse, right guard is an atrocity on this team right now. Basically the Eagles are in a multi-year rebuild, and for whatever reason they elected to concentrate this past offseason on the D even though they have a new QB to protect.
I expect major OL activity in the draft and free agency next year, but this year it's gonna be free admission to the backfield through the interior. I don't think the Eagles were prepared for just how bad Stacy Andrews was gonna be. Hopefully he just came to camp out-of-shape and will improve as he gets more reps. Being merely adequate would be a big improvement.
Something I didn't see mentioned in this thread was how much Mike Bell sucked.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 29, 2010, 12:38:39 PM
Your know-it-all schtick is grating on my farging nerves today.
ill promise to work on my opinions if you agree to tend to your know nothing schtick
Quote from: Diomedes on August 29, 2010, 12:38:39 PM
Your know-it-all schtick is grating on my farging nerves today.
More than Phreak hoping Kolb is the worst QB ever?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 29, 2010, 11:16:36 AM
Yeah but with McNabb it was known that he'd be off at times. But when the crowd who loved McNabb being run out of town point out Kolb's strengths and why he'll be better the leading reason is always "oh he's so accurate" or "he puts the ball where his receivers can do something with it".
Yeah, neither of those things happened the other night and it all wasn't because of the OL issues.
P
oh my god! a young qb who has started 2 games played poorly in a preseason game! sound the alarm its all coming to an end!!!!!
Former Super Bowl MVP Eli Manning and future NFL MVP (per IGY) Tony Romo both played like crap this weekend too. And McNabb didn't play at all.
So, the NFC East is going to have awful QB's, right?
The only thing Phreak wants more than Donovan McNabb back behind center for the Eagles is Brett Myers back on mound for the Phillies.
And carbs. Lots of carbs.
Quote from: Rome on August 29, 2010, 02:20:24 PM
The only thing Phreak wants more than Donovan McNabb back behind center for the Eagles is Brett Myers back on mound for the Phillies.
And carbs. Lots of carbs.
Are you a mind reader? :-D
Myers is dealin this year
But I am not rooting for the failure of Kolb. I'm not one of those people who follows 5 to Washington.
you seem to be though
Why? Because I think Kolb has not looked good? Or because I think people should wait before dropping to their knees to anoint him the savior from the 'horribly inaccurate choker who is better off out of town'?
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 29, 2010, 12:42:57 PM
Personally I think Mawae is doner than done, and that there probably aren't many options for the Eagles to pursue at center until next offseason. Even worse, right guard is an atrocity on this team right now. Basically the Eagles are in a multi-year rebuild, and for whatever reason they elected to concentrate this past offseason on the D even though they have a new QB to protect.
I expect major OL activity in the draft and free agency next year, but this year it's gonna be free admission to the backfield through the interior. I don't think the Eagles were prepared for just how bad Stacy Andrews was gonna be. Hopefully he just came to camp out-of-shape and will improve as he gets more reps. Being merely adequate would be a big improvement.
Something I didn't see mentioned in this thread was how much Mike Bell sucked.
Agreed. Mawae is cooked.
I think Jackson is adequate and at the very least knows the protection calls well and can snap the shotgun. He is not some savior there though. The interior OL needs to be addressed.
I hope someone falls off the Cut Tree this weekend or next.
Or make a trade.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 29, 2010, 02:49:13 PM
Why? Because I think Kolb has not looked good? Or because I think people should wait before dropping to their knees to anoint him the savior from the 'horribly inaccurate choker who is better off out of town'?
you are looking for any reason to kill him
what you should be is excited and optimistic because we know have an unproven, question mark of a qb instead of a corny, spiteful choking dog. he may be good, he may not but in the least this should be fun.
you are expecting him to be bobby hoying and cant wait for it to happen.
Quote from: KDS on August 29, 2010, 03:00:41 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 29, 2010, 02:49:13 PM
Why? Because I think Kolb has not looked good? Or because I think people should wait before dropping to their knees to anoint him the savior from the 'horribly inaccurate choker who is better off out of town'?
you are looking for any reason to kill him
what you should be is excited and optimistic because we know have an unproven, question mark of a qb instead of a corny, spiteful choking dog. he may be good, he may not but in the least this should be fun.
you are expecting him to be bobby hoying and cant wait for it to happen.
Wrong on all accounts.
I think they made a mistake. I hope I am wrong because I want to enjoy the football season. I am not a spiteful hater. And if he does succeed then I will be right there cheering him on. I won't be like the McNabb haters who picked on every little thing that happened.
if you dont get it now there is no hope
Get what? Enlighten me.
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So you blame the failures solely on McNabb and glad he is gone. You believe it was time to go with Kolb.
I think the opposite.
And let me say something else; Kolb is no rookie. He needs in-game experience, but he is no wet behind the ears rookie. So I expect more from him than had they drafted a guy and threw him in there.
they cant win a super bowl until 2012 if even then
dont expect anything mr. expectations
Forgive me for expecting them to win.
hope is different than expectations
they arent good enough to win anything more than 8 games right now
it would be the same deal if they kept 5
They way the o-line looks right now, 8 games might be a stretch. And as far as waiting for someone to be cut, or a trade, there probably won't be anything out there better than they have now. No one will be trading o-line depth unless they have a glaring need, and there isn't any position on this team that is deep enough to trade anyone for help. Shaun Andrews would have been the best option out there, thats why the Giants picked him up.
I know it's only three preseason games, but the o-line should be getting their stuff together right now. Vanilla play calling has nothing to do with blocking up front. You either do it or you don't. If Kolb can't get comfortable, it's gonna' be a long season. McNabb was good at rolling out and improvising. Kolb needs to be able to make his reads, and not have to worry about getting rid of the ball after three steps every time he drops back.
I don't care if it's pre-season or not, right now it looks baaaad.
It doesnt help the situation that they don't seem to have an RB capable of picking up a blitz.
cobb and mcnabb both suck....It burns when I pee
You should get that looked at, michael
this o-line is farging horrible. wouldn't matter if peyton was back there this line can't block for shtein. that's stating the obvious i know but it can't be said enough.