Most of you just want to move on..immediately....I'll wait until opening day kick off.
But, I feel he was the main catalyst for our success over the past decade. He made or was part of the most incredible or memorable plays in NFL/Eagles history. Without McNabb, I would never have felt we had a chance throughout his era here with the Eagles.
He'll be missed sans wormburners and accuracy, but he helped give this franchise hope again. So, all of you that are throwing confetti all over the place, try to remember what we had.
I am so giddy to be surrounded by taterskins fans right now. All of the years of these clowns screaming that McNabb sucks and now they are scrambling to convince themselves that they love the deal. Once again the taterskins can't help but go crazy acquiring big name players. It looked like it would be a quiet off season for them for once, but nope. Larry Johnson, Willie Parker and Donovan McNabb, meet Danny Snyder. The way back machine is in full effect in Landover right now and I'm loving it.
go taterskins
Makes sense that an idiot stat head like mcgaw would root for the taterskins now.
I hope he dies of a heart attack from eating too much. GLUTTON
Donnie, thanks for the memories, but its time to move on. PS, you suck in clutch situations
Thanks for the memories, 5.
I hope you give Roseman and Reid the finger.
Does McNabb read this site?
Quote from: Dalton on April 05, 2010, 02:44:27 PM
Does McNabb read this site?
Yes. His favorite is FF.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 05, 2010, 02:41:24 PM
Donnie, thanks for the memories, but its time to move on. PS, you suck in clutch situations
This about sums up my feelings.
He already voted.
The negatives are always going to shine brighter than the positives with you people, when it comes to #5. That's just how it is. Can't imagine what the last decade would of been like without him though. I really wish big Red was going, but if this means one less step in dumping the fat man then I have to be okay with it. I have to admit it's growing on me and it will be exciting to see what becomes of this move. Thanks #5
he didn't win a Super Bowl and had numerous chances to do so. that will always come first. i love what he did all those years in providing entertainment and excitement with REGULAR SEASON wins. but he couldn't win the big one and that will always be #1 on the list.
Quote from: Dalton on April 05, 2010, 02:44:27 PM
Does McNabb read this site?
I heard Freddie Mitchell passed it on to him years back.
It was time to move on, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's the best QB this team has ever had. Adios Don.
I heard he was the best regular season qb in franchise history.
and by HE you mean the play calling buffoon of a coach who has no concept of clock management or of running the ball. or logical moments to call timeouts. or to adjust his offense at any point in the game. or to put his players in positions to work to their strengths rather than having FAITH in a outdated offensive system. i could go on for hours on his failures as a head coach.
top 10 donovan moments:
10. the 2006 season: the eagles do better without him, unbelievable hostility and resentment towards jeff garcia
9. 08 season, week 2 @ dallas: big mnf game early in season, miserably fails on final 2 drives to win the game after dropping 37 on dallas
8. there are ties?: the ultimate 5 moment. unknowingly embarrassed himself, too vapid to see the truth, plays the victim and blames everyone else
7. nfc title game 01: lost to a better team, sure, but had a drive to win at the end and threw a pick to 75 year old aneas williams
6. dallas debacle part I: "we showed our youth," shutout in a do or die game
5. dallas debacle part II: the pre-game banjo dance and plexiglass hump, mike vick steps off the prison bus and throws more td passes
4. nfc title game 08: decided after his mid-4th qtr td pass to pimp that he had done enough and that the game was on the defense, went 4 and out on a drive to tie the game later, missing kevin curtis by 3000 feet on 4th down
3. nfc title game 03: knocked out of the game like a girl, becomes ricky manning jr's bitch for life, beaten by future hall of famer jake delhomme in his own house
2. nfc title game 02: last game at the vet, becomes ronde barber's bitch for life, beaten by future hall of famer brad johnson in his own house
1. superbowl xxxiv: the famous puke, 2 back breaking interceptions, treating the 2-minute drill like a wednesday afternoon stroll in the park
thanks for the memories, don.
Like I said...part of many memorable moments. :'(
Yeah he really missed Curtis in NFCCG bad, hitting him in the hands and what not.
lol thats your response
give me a top 10 donovan moments. im sure his 14 second scramble is just as great as his 20 playoff losses are bad
would you shut the farg up?
fo real
Quote from: reese125 on April 05, 2010, 04:05:13 PM
I heard he was the best regular season qb in franchise history.
Same record in the SB as Jaws. Just sayin'
@KDS: 9-7 in the playoffs equals 20 losses? New math?
Quotetop 10 donovan moments:
10. the 2006 season: the eagles do better without him, unbelievable hostility and resentment towards jeff garcia -
false. reid/marty balanced the offense and started running the bal. then reid was out-coached by sean payton in the playoffs. schooled in the game by a coach with less experience. reid displays zero ability to adjust his game plan and wastes timeouts.
Quote9. 08 season, week 2 @ dallas: big mnf game early in season, miserably fails on final 2 drives to win the game after dropping 37 on dallas
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big deal. its week two8
Quote. there are ties?: the ultimate 5 moment. unknowingly embarrassed himself, too vapid to see the truth, plays the victim and blames everyone else
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Honestly like to know how many people knew this. either way he's a fargin NFL QB and should know. Again, has nothing to do with winning or losing the game. No point.Quote7. nfc title game 01: lost to a better team, sure, but had a drive to win at the end and threw a pick to 75 year old aneas williams
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Bucs did their homework and had a gameplan, unlike the Eagles, who stuck to the same old gameplan. Bucs D was close to the best. But Donny threw the pick so there is all the blame? Out coached again. Quote6. dallas debacle part I: "we showed our youth," shutout in a do or die game
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comments mean nothing on the field. another retarded point based on something off the field.
Quote5. dallas debacle part II: the pre-game banjo dance and plexiglass hump, mike vick steps off the prison bus and throws more td passes
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Again, his dances offend you, wow, a black man that can't dance. He should be judged for this obviously. This was an EPIC FAILURE OF COACHING. Once Westbrook came back, they abandoned what made them successful, the run. Don't even pin this on one player/Quote
4. nfc title game 08: decided after his mid-4th qtr td pass to pimp that he had done enough and that the game was on the defense, went 4 and out on a drive to tie the game later, missing kevin curtis by 3000 feet on 4th down
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Do you remember how many balls the receivers dropped that game?! Including the one that hit Curtis in his hands. Once again, Reid puts his players in multiple 3 and outs, gasing the defense and having faith in a one sided offensive attack. result, failure.Quote3. nfc title game 03: knocked out of the game like a girl, becomes ricky manning jr's bitch for life, beaten by future hall of famer jake delhomme in his own house
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the hit was late and it was a cheap shot. Quote
2. nfc title game 02: last game at the vet, becomes ronde barber's bitch for life, beaten by future hall of famer brad johnson in his own house
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Much like your #3, out coached. Pinky and Trash are our receivers. Quote
1. superbowl xxxiv: the famous puke, 2 back breaking interceptions, treating the 2-minute drill like a wednesday afternoon stroll in the park
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The Pat's cheated and we still only lost by 3. Donovan threw over 50+ pass attempts. This scenario never wins games. thanks for the memories, don.
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lol
its all coaching and defense! and the receivers!
you 5 homers sound like a broken record. then again so do i, but hes gone and wound is fresh and i feel the need to pounce on it
Your honesty is refreshing.
McNabb was a really good QB up until 2004, and then things went down hill. He was injured half the time, and the others was him losing mobility, being afraid to to throw the ball in between defenders to check downs, and just being mediocre.
Both 2008 and 2009 he was incredibly mediocre if not worse in the first half of each season.
I think the Cardinals NFCCG will epitomize what McNabb was. Can look really good at times, but will miss some key throws in key moments/games that take part in the team coming up just short. Sure he helped bring the team back from behind, but he missed some key throws that really hurt the team. Troy Aikman was one of the few analysts that had the balls to rip him for it. Everyone else hangs off his penis. McNabb is not to blame for all of the losses, but the fact is you can't miss those simple basic throws in games like that.
I'm interested in seeing how Kolb handles the 2 minute drills.
Thanks for the memories Donovan. I take a prescription heartburn medicine now because of them.
Stop eating human flesh, Yeti.
Well we will find out if a balanced offense with a heavy running game really will make a difference for McNabb.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 05, 2010, 08:07:07 PM
Well we will find out if a balanced offense with a heavy running game really will make a difference for McNabb.
We already know it did. When the Eagles ran the ball and had a balanced offense, we saw how much better he played.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 05, 2010, 08:16:16 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 05, 2010, 08:07:07 PM
Well we will find out if a balanced offense with a heavy running game really will make a difference for McNabb.
We already know it did. When the Eagles ran the ball and had a balanced offense, we saw how much better he played.
I mean throughout the course of a whole season. We have never seen that.
lol at Orodenker's list.
Posted this in the Burn in Hell thread, just wanted to leave it here:
Peter King's take:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/04/05/mcnabb/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/04/05/mcnabb/index.html)
QuoteThis is what the most interesting trade in the NFL since Eric Dickerson to the Colts in 1987 came down to:
From Washington's perspective, Mike Shanahan looked at Donovan McNabb and saw John Elway. In 1995, Shanahan took the Denver coaching job and inherited a quarterback who couldn't win the big one, who'd gotten stale, who'd lost the faith of the locals in Denver to deliver a Super Bowl. Elway, then 35, went on to play four years for Shanahan and win two Super Bowls. In 2010, Shanahan takes the Washington coaching job and deals for a quarterback who couldn't win the big one, who'd gotten stale, who'd lost the faith of the locals in Philadelphia to deliver a Super Bowl. McNabb is 33. He wants to play at least four more years.
From Philadelphia's perspective, and I've written this a hundred times, Andy Reid looked at his team and saw Groundhog Day. Highly competitive every year, falling short every year, usually with some painful offensive futility involved. The vomitous, time-wasting drive at the end of the Super Bowl five years ago, the no-touchdowns-in-the-first-21-possessions frustration in the final two games against Dallas last season. And Reid has a capable young drone, Kevin Kolb, a player whose release, demeanor and progress in three years intrigues him.
I like Shanahan and GM Bruce Allen knowing they probably couldn't get the college quarterback of their dreams, Sam Bradford, in trade with St. Louis -- and going out and getting a 2010-ready passer who will upgrade their team drastically at the most important position on the field. I'll be surprised if Washington isn't at least four wins better this year, a .500 team.
Jason Campbell trade partners. I don't think he's worth much -- maybe a fifth-round pick -- but if, say, the Bills or Raiders want to add him to their mix, I'm sure they can have him. Washington would be happy to go forward with Rex Grossman as McNabb's backup if they could get a draft pick for Campbell, who I never believed was any part of Shanahan's long-term plans.
As we digest the McNabb trade, consider what happened the last time Washington coach Mike Shanahan took a 30-something quarterback under his wing and tried to win a Super Bowl with him. With John Elway, Shanahan actually won two.
John Elway Comp-Att. Pct. Yards TD Int
Pre-Shanahan, 1983-94 3030-5384 .562 37,736 199 177
With Shanahan, 1995-98 1093-1866 .585 13,739 101 49
For the record, Elway was 50-17 in four seasons with Shanahan.
BET:
Elway's post-Shanahan stats are more similar to McNabb's as of now. McNabb's post-Shanahan stats will be more similar to Elway's pre-Shanahan.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2010, 08:24:09 PM
lol at Orodenker's list.
no matter you want to shake it, thats his legacy
you can be whoever the farg mussa is and blame every single loss on coaching and defense and todd pinkston, or you can be a realist and understand that after failing so many times when the going got tough, that maybe 5 wasnt cut out for big spots. not every guy is.
COBB OR GTFO
Quote from: mussa on April 05, 2010, 06:10:02 PM
Quotetop 10 donovan moments:
10. the 2006 season: the eagles do better without him, unbelievable hostility and resentment towards jeff garcia -
false. reid/marty balanced the offense and started running the bal. then reid was out-coached by sean payton in the playoffs. schooled in the game by a coach with less experience. reid displays zero ability to adjust his game plan and wastes timeouts.
Quote9. 08 season, week 2 @ dallas: big mnf game early in season, miserably fails on final 2 drives to win the game after dropping 37 on dallas
- big deal. its week two
8Quote. there are ties?: the ultimate 5 moment. unknowingly embarrassed himself, too vapid to see the truth, plays the victim and blames everyone else
- Honestly like to know how many people knew this. either way he's a fargin NFL QB and should know. Again, has nothing to do with winning or losing the game. No point.
Quote7. nfc title game 01: lost to a better team, sure, but had a drive to win at the end and threw a pick to 75 year old aneas williams
- Bucs did their homework and had a gameplan, unlike the Eagles, who stuck to the same old gameplan. Bucs D was close to the best. But Donny threw the pick so there is all the blame? Out coached again.
Quote6. dallas debacle part I: "we showed our youth," shutout in a do or die game
- comments mean nothing on the field. another retarded point based on something off the field.
Quote5. dallas debacle part II: the pre-game banjo dance and plexiglass hump, mike vick steps off the prison bus and throws more td passes
- Again, his dances offend you, wow, a black man that can't dance. He should be judged for this obviously. This was an EPIC FAILURE OF COACHING. Once Westbrook came back, they abandoned what made them successful, the run. Don't even pin this on one player/
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4. nfc title game 08: decided after his mid-4th qtr td pass to pimp that he had done enough and that the game was on the defense, went 4 and out on a drive to tie the game later, missing kevin curtis by 3000 feet on 4th down
- Do you remember how many balls the receivers dropped that game?! Including the one that hit Curtis in his hands. Once again, Reid puts his players in multiple 3 and outs, gasing the defense and having faith in a one sided offensive attack. result, failure.
Quote3. nfc title game 03: knocked out of the game like a girl, becomes ricky manning jr's bitch for life, beaten by future hall of famer jake delhomme in his own house
- the hit was late and it was a cheap shot.
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2. nfc title game 02: last game at the vet, becomes ronde barber's bitch for life, beaten by future hall of famer brad johnson in his own house
- Much like your #3, out coached. Pinky and Trash are our receivers.
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1. superbowl xxxiv: the famous puke, 2 back breaking interceptions, treating the 2-minute drill like a wednesday afternoon stroll in the park
- The Pat's cheated and we still only lost by 3. Donovan threw over 50+ pass attempts. This scenario never wins games.
thanks for the memories, don.
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This is some seriously funny shtein.
cant believe someone took these comments serious 10 times
Quote from: mussa on April 05, 2010, 06:10:02 PM
Quotetop 10 donovan moments:
Quote7. nfc title game 01: lost to a better team, sure, but had a drive to win at the end and threw a pick to 75 year old aneas williams
- Bucs did their homework and had a gameplan, unlike the Eagles, who stuck to the same old gameplan. Bucs D was close to the best. But Donny threw the pick so there is all the blame? Out coached again.
Aneas Williams of the Rams was so guilty of holding on that play. He held Freddie Mitchell's jersey and it was so obvious.
besides the fact that someone took my tomfoolery seriously, they did so by blaming every single 5 shortcoming on the "gameplan." whenever he losses, its someone elses fault. when he wins, it his skill and awesomeness. yup.
I will never forget the game against the Skins in 2000 at Washington when he took over the game in the 4th Q and played like a mad man. Shaking and baking. I remember thinking "We got a farging quarterback!".
I am so sick of the national media and the whole "never respected by the Philadelphia fan base". Enough. Even the naysayers on this board were on suicide watch every time he got hurt. I remember how we all raised the white flag when he went down in 2006. That first game with Garcia against the Colts, we all had to be talked off the ledge.
I wish him well, except when he plays the birds. It's time to move on. Whole new ball game now. And Kolb is not Bobby Hoying.
Once he turned into a pocket QB most people were done with him. Same as Randall, you made your name playing a certain way, you change it, and you're not as dynamic, of course people wont love you as much.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 06, 2010, 02:53:46 PM
I will never forget the game against the Skins in 2000 at Washington
this is the inherent problem with peoples opinions of 5.
they remember stuff he did 10 years ago and 5 ankle injuries ago and think he can still do it today. hell most people were still of the belief that westbrook was a quality rb last season. it wasnt until they released him that people went, oh i guess he's too injured. IDIOTS. he was a walking corpse 2 seasons ago.
and 5 is a shell of his formal self. to sit there and think someone whose best attribute was his mobility and ability to improvise and create is still going to be effective after all the wear and tear is preposterous. 5 is now essentially a pocket passer which is the worst thing for him. im not saying hes a bad qb, not by any means, just not elite and not a guy anyone needs to cry over.
i'm crying over him. but that's because i'm soft batch too.
Durnaven could still shake a defender off him, definitely better than Kolb, but he was the worst at holding on to the ball forever and not making the smart play by getting rid of it.
they interrupted all stations for donovan's presser this afternoon...and after it was over all the news people commented on how funny he was. he he was way less corny than usual.
he's waited his entire career (life?) to be unconditionally loved by anyone and now he's found an entire breed of mutants who will do exactly that.
good for you, donny.
he was serious Donovan, but dont forget these morons love Clinton Portis and his outfits
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 06, 2010, 03:32:10 PM
he was serious Donovan, but dont forget these morons love Clinton Portis and his outfits
Good point! I don't think I ever found Portis' little schtick funny. The big stupid glasses, the pimp hats, the dime store afro - kind of shtein my son and his friends use to do in first grade.
Quote from: KDS on April 06, 2010, 03:19:36 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 06, 2010, 02:53:46 PM
I will never forget the game against the Skins in 2000 at Washington
this is the inherent problem with peoples opinions of 5.
they remember stuff he did 10 years ago
My point. I had to reach way back. Wasn't gonna touch the 14 second scramble in the pocket against Dallas on Monday night in 2004. That was to easy.