Kolb or GTFO
fargin bum.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 04, 2010, 09:10:00 PM
fargin bum.
You'll have a Kolb jersey before November. Book it.
i liked what i saw from kolb last year. not against trading mcnabb, just against trading him to the skins. a-holes.
extension time!
If he's 0-3 after September will this become the Ryan Mallett bandwagon?
Stop hedging your bets. Are you in, or are you out?
Anybody checked Frankford & Cottman yet?
gotta be in
I can't root against Kolb like I did Pederson...
And when he fails? Then what?
Vick?
This team has no shot.
He won't fail.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 04, 2010, 09:10:34 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 04, 2010, 09:10:00 PM
fargin bum.
You'll have a Kolb jersey before November. Book it.
The only thing I have is no choice but to support the guy and hope he's everything that the three fargholes think he is.
I'm not going to root against him like may did with McNabb.
Better hope he's the real deal, Reid.
Wait----if Kolb fails does that mean Andy gets the boot?
bold prediction-Andy runs the offense as is, Kolb gets them to 10-6 and 2nd round exit.
More of the same, just a different face throwing the ball.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 04, 2010, 09:22:10 PM
Wait----if Kolb fails does that mean Andy gets the boot?
Andy, yes. Banner and Roseman, no.
When Kolb wins the Super Bowl you Hoyda motherfargers get zero champagne. ZERO.
He won't fail.
OK. Nice ballsy prediction.
Cowboy Kolb to the SB in Dallas... 2010.
<----- This right here, bitches.
The Kolb for HOF train has begun!
Kolb is somewhere closer to the 3rd smallest problem the Eagles have right now. At least now nobody can say they're not in complete rebuilding mode.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 09:29:51 PM
He won't fail.
OK. Nice ballsy prediction.
I was hoping you'd pick up on the sarcasm.
He probably wont fail, but he won't be winning them a SB either. We'll get more of the same old same old with a different face at QB.
watch #37 get used on Tebow. Religion overload...
off my back now bitch
(http://blog.pennlive.com/patriotnewssports/2008/09/large_McNABBKOLB08AP.jpg)
cobb = anyone but mcnabb
Quote from: Dalton on April 04, 2010, 09:39:39 PM
off my back now bitch
(http://blog.pennlive.com/patriotnewssports/2008/09/large_McNABBKOLB08AP.jpg)
lawlz
in full support of kolb until his first air guitar
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 04, 2010, 09:37:21 PM
watch #37 get used on Tebow. Religion overload...
Oh hell naw. I'd quit.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 04, 2010, 09:44:13 PM
in full support of kolb until his first air guitar
Now you're talkin'.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 09:19:29 PM
And when he fails? Then what?
Vick?
This team has no shot.
this team had no shot with mcnabb. way too many holes to try and fill with draft picks and camp cuts.
Again, the banking on Kolb as the future is what is driving me mad.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 09:54:08 PM
Again, the banking on Kolb as the future is what is driving me mad.
I can already see it, he'll have a good start to the season, his first bad game you'll be here touting and shouting how bad he is. At least give the guy a shot.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 09:54:08 PM
Again, the banking on Kolb as the future is what is driving me mad.
they aren't banking on him as the future just yet. right now, they're banking on him for the present. they spent a 2nd round pick on him so when they've got that much invested, they might as well see what he's got. taking him in the 2nd round a couple years ago was stupid because that's what put the eagles in this position in the first place.
but the fact remains that they already have a lot invested in him and this is the final year of his deal. if he plays well, he gets caked off. if not, he walks and the eagles have to look for a new qb.
the real problem is that they drafted him way too high. not to mention that they probably drafted mcnabb's "replacement" a year too early.
kolb is still an eagle, right? why the hate toward a guy who's going to be the starting quarterback for our team next year?
it's farging stupid if you ask me.
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2010, 09:58:35 PM
kolb is still an eagle, right? why the hate toward a guy who's going to be the starting quarterback for our team next year?
it's farging stupid if you ask me.
Yeah, they have no one behind him either!!1
I'm no Vick fan, but their depth chart at QB is better than a lot of other positions right now.
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2010, 09:58:35 PM
kolb is still an eagle, right? why the hate toward a guy who's going to be the starting quarterback for our team next year?
it's farging stupid if you ask me.
Right, like you mean when you hated the starting QB of our team last year?
i think most people here gave the guy a good 10 years before we started disliking him.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 10:04:31 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2010, 09:58:35 PM
kolb is still an eagle, right? why the hate toward a guy who's going to be the starting quarterback for our team next year?
it's farging stupid if you ask me.
Right, like you mean when you hated the starting QB of our team last year?
are you really comparing the feelings people have toward an 11 year veteran vs a guy who has never been given the starting job
Has nothing to do with what he said.
he said "Starting QB for our team".
I loved him when he won and I hated him when he lost same as you, PG.
Difference is there are people here including you who are actively wishing failure on Kolb and that's something I never did. WHY? Because it's farging stupid.
I'm not WISHING failure on him, wtf?
He's not a starting QB, imo. Me saying he sucks isn't me saying I hope he fails.
Schlereth is on ESPNEWS now saying McNabb might do better in Washington with this thing called a running game.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 10:09:57 PM
Me saying he sucks isn't me saying I hope he fails.
My sources verify that this is true.
Kolb better have a huge cock. And he's gotta show it to us. Daniel Craig style.
And when he fails, then what?
Sounds like predicting or even wishing failure on the guy.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 04, 2010, 10:10:58 PM
Schlereth is on ESPNEWS now saying McNabb might do better in Washington with this thing called a running game.
skins have more of a wheelchair game
Kolb isn't a starting QB in this league? Have you seen half the QBs in the NFL?
Jamarcus Russell, Matt Cassell, Kyle Orton, Jake Delhomme, Matt Moore, Josh Freeman, Chad Henne, Trent Edwards/Ryan Fitzpatrick, Mark Sanchez, Matt Leinart, Charlie Whitehurst, Marc Bulger, Alex Smith.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 04, 2010, 10:10:58 PM
Schlereth is on ESPNEWS now saying McNabb might do better in Washington with this thing called a running game.
:-D da truth!
Quote from: General_Failure on April 04, 2010, 10:10:58 PM
Schlereth is on ESPNEWS now saying McNabb might do better in Washington with this thing called a running game.
shocker. When a not so accurate QB has to throw a gazillion times a game...including in spots that he should never have to be throwing (3rd and 1)...he wins games.
When a fat, boneheaded icehole of a coach doesn't gameplan around his starting QBs strengths and weaknesses, said QB will fail. McNabb did much better than he ever should have with that lardass coaching him
Rome...there's this word called hypothetical.
Look it up.
McNabb was never suited to be a "West Coast" QB. Kolb is.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 10:13:57 PM
Rome...there's this word called hypothetical.
Look it up.
quit making up words witchy woman!
i looked it up.
you weren't hypothsizing. you were ripping kolb and trashing any chance he might have in philly.
again. stupid.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 04, 2010, 10:17:21 PM
McNabb was never suited to be a "West Coast" QB. Kolb is.
Jaworski was just on ESPNEWS saying McNabb is well suited to Shanahan's WCO.
Again, I can't understand the hate concerning dealing McNabb. I can understand people getting a case of the ass over trading him inside the division. With the former everyone needs to understand the following fact: The Eagles were not winning anything in the next one to two years WITH OR WITHOUT McNabb and/or Sheldon Brown. Given that's the case, find out what you have on the roster that will help you win games/championship in the next five to ten years. That means giving Kolb the shot., so here we go. I'm excited to see what happens.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 10:09:57 PM
I'm not WISHING failure on him, wtf?
He's not a starting QB, imo. Me saying he sucks isn't me saying I hope he fails.
What does Brady, Montana, Elway, Marino, Manning and Unitas have in common? None of them threw for 300 yards their first 2 starts in the league.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
SD, stop.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 04, 2010, 10:17:21 PM
McNabb was never suited to be a "West Coast" QB. Kolb is.
not exactly true. everything about mcnabb in his early years was ideal for the wco minus the (in)accuracy. mobile, gets out of the pocket, throws well on the run, doesn't turn the ball over. his accuracy was something that i had hoped would improve over the years....which it has, but not to the point where he stopped throwing the ball into the ground or behind receivers.
it's crazy that mcnabb can sometimes be throw some ridiculously accurate passes and then follow them up with the slop that he sometimes does.
and that's my biggest knock on him.....he's either on fire, or cold as ice. there's never been much middle ground with him.
He blows at throwing short, accurate passes. You know... Leading receivers and stuff? That is a neat thing to have in a QB.
now adam shefter is trotting out the elway/mcnabb comparisons saying that when shanahan got to denver elway was a year older than mcnabb is now.
oh noes.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 04, 2010, 10:24:56 PM
He blows at throwing short, accurate passes. You know... Leading receivers and stuff? That is a neat thing to have in a QB.
that's just crazy talk.
obviously at this point in the game, he's not going to get any more accurate. but there was no reason to think after his first 2 years that it wasn't something that could have been improved upon.
Point and laugh at the taterskins thread is going to be in full swing this season. I can't wait.
Jaws dropped a interesting nugget on Kolb just now on ESPN, said that after going back and watching film, and looking at stats, the WR's YAC with Kolb throwing was almost equal to the initial pass. According to Jaws, that means Kolb was putting the ball on the receivers accurately and in stride.
He also said that Kolb made almost every accurate read and check in those two games he started.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 10:22:08 PM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
SD, stop.
What I don't get is he started two games, one was against the SB champs in a game in which Reid took Kolb out every other play to run the wildcat, the other was against a bad KC team. He faired well in both games. When I watched him at camp he looked like a player. He performed well in the preseason games. He's had 4 years to be groomed. How are you so sure he's going to fail.
sneaky little bastich eagles front office. trade mcnabb into the division to the taterskins in hopes he gives losses to the giants and cowboys to keep themselves in the race--good work if you ask me if Kolb somehow becomes successful
igy--pm your address so I know where to send these 2000 pennies covered in anthrax
i already established here that mcnabb doesnt throw it a gazillion times a game
but i have been saying the best part about this trade is that for once and for all the reid vs mcnabb argument will be settled because shanny will run a pro set offense that runs the ball...and maybe mcnabb will win a superbowl and maybe he will flame out again...but at least we will all know
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 04, 2010, 10:29:23 PM
Jaws dropped a interesting nugget on Kolb just now on ESPN, said that after going back and watching film, and looking at stats, the WR's YAC with Kolb throwing was almost equal to the initial pass. According to Jaws, that means Kolb was putting the ball on the receivers accurately and in stride.
He also said that Kolb made almost every accurate read and check in those two games he started.
Pimp is going to blow up next year ;D
The only thing he has left to blow up is a knee.
go taterskins
lol
As much as McNabb was hated...I'm gonna miss feeling that McNabb could pull it out for us...but he kind of killed it with his air guitar.
I guess my new favorite player now is D. Jackson with his reverse endzone dance and stuff.
farg this is season is going to be weird.
Quote from: hbionic on April 04, 2010, 10:40:21 PM
farg this is season is going to be weird.
Booze. Lots of booze.
The coaches must think he's got it in him. The 2 games I saw him play showed me nothing really. I pray for him they balance out the offense. I hope the kid does good, he's got talent surrounding him, but a suspect o-line and a defense thats really more up in the air then him. Wasn't really looking forward to the Kolb era, but here we go...
Here's what I saw from Kolb last year.
Kolb is more accurate but has a weaker arm. He's more willing to try to risk an interception than McNabb is. That was undoubtedly one of McNabb's strong suits but it also led to a lot of 'coverage sacks' and annoying balls thrown out of bounds. I think Kolb is very likely to throw a lot more picks than McNabb.
With the weapons he has at his disposal, I think he'll be fine. He's been learning the offense forever so if he doesn't do well the entire front office and coaching staff should be lit on fire.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 04, 2010, 10:26:52 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 04, 2010, 10:24:56 PM
He blows at throwing short, accurate passes. You know... Leading receivers and stuff? That is a neat thing to have in a QB.
that's just crazy talk.
obviously at this point in the game, he's not going to get any more accurate. but there was no reason to think after his first 2 years that it wasn't something that could have been improved upon.
I was talking about McNabb, sir.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 04, 2010, 10:29:23 PM
Jaws dropped a interesting nugget on Kolb just now on ESPN, said that after going back and watching film, and looking at stats, the WR's YAC with Kolb throwing was almost equal to the initial pass. According to Jaws, that means Kolb was putting the ball on the receivers accurately and in stride.
He also said that Kolb made almost every accurate read and check in those two games he started.
How can he say that after saying that DONOVAN MCNABB is a perfect West Coast QB? Frankly, I think that the offense in Philly started to take shape around Donovan. The short timing routes were replaced by shots down the field. It was often fun to watch, but it really wasn't using the pass like a run - which is what the WCO is supposed to be.
Anyway, like most people, I thought Kolb looked pretty bad in preseason action and obviously against the Ravens. But I saw some very good pocket presence and timing in his two starts last year, and I am intrigued to see if he can get even better with constant work with the #1 offense.
Celek is on the bandwagon:
Quote
Celek: Kolb Can Be One Of NFL's Best
April 5, 2010 | Last Updated: 4/5/10 3:02 AM ET | Comments (3)
There are only three players on the Eagles roster who are now over the age of 30 after Donovan McNabb was traded Sunday night to the Washington taterskins.
Two of them - David Akers and Sav Rocca - are specialists. The final piece of that triangle is defensive end Juqua Parker, who is 31.
With McNabb headed for Washington, there are only three players who were in the organization when the Eagles went to the Super Bowl in 2005. One of them was already named - Akers. The other two are strong safety Quintin Mikell and center Jamaal Jackson, who was the injured reserve list.
It's no surprise that head coach Andy Reid was asked Sunday night who would assume the leadership role with McNabb no longer in town. It was just a few weeks ago that Reid claimed that the leadership position would be fine with McNabb after the team parted ways with Brian Westbrook.
"That's a good question because Kevin (Kolb) becomes one of them," Reid said. "One of the things I've mentioned is that I think he's a good leader. I think we have some tremendous leaders up front. DeSean Jackson has turned into a kid that has shown leadership ability. Brent Celek is one of our primary leaders."
Celek had a chance to offer his take on the blockbuster move on NBC 10's "Sports Final" and he believes that Kolb "can be one of the best quarterbacks in the league."
"There wasn't a guy that was better than him on the field wanting us to win, doing everything in his power to help us figure out what coverages we were going against, what routes we should run. He was a quarterback on the sideline for us," Celek said. "I think that will carry over on the field."
Of course, Celek was a draft classmate of Kolb in 2007. In Kolb's two starts in 2009, he and Celek had impeccable chemistry connecting 16 times for 208 yards and a touchdown. Celek had back-to-back 100-yard receiving games for the first time in his career.
Celek did admit, however, that he was "a little bit stunned" to see McNabb stay in the NFC East.
"I'm OK with it if Coach Reid's OK with it and our front office is OK with it, I'm all right with it," he said. "We get to play him twice a year. It'll be fun and exciting. Don was a great teammate of ours. We'll love to compete against him."
Ultimately, no matter who it is, the Eagles need some of their young playmakers to step up and take command of this team.
"There's a lot of young guys who need to step up and become leaders on this team," Celek said. "I think they will and we're all excited for the opportunity."
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 09:54:08 PM
Again, the banking on Kolb as the future is what is driving me mad.
Who's banking on anything? The guy has one year left on his contract...
If he goes into this season and does well.. you resign him. And if he goes into the season and shows nothing? You don't resign him.
It's fairly low risk in the long term.
got a real hard time believing any starting qb with 1 yr left goes into a season without insurance
he'll be extended
Quote from: reese125 on April 05, 2010, 09:25:53 AM
got a real hard time believing any starting qb with 1 yr left goes into a season without insurance
he'll be extended
This. Anyone who thinks they don't extend him is crazy. I keep reading people on FB saying, "He has 16 games to prove himself and then they will let him walk if they don't."
Uh, no.
what has this FO done to make you think that?
i wouldn't be surprised if they wait and season how the season starts before re-upping him. a few good starts and then maybe.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 05, 2010, 09:41:18 AM
what has this FO done to make you think that?
i wouldn't be surprised if they wait and season how the season starts before re-upping him. a few good starts and then maybe.
Really?
my point is the smart thing to do would be to sign him before the season starts.
This whole thing is farging nuts. Eagles/taterskins has to be SNF or MNF Week 1.
With no CBA in place for next season, you probably won't see him resigned before the season starts.
they may extend him, but with the CBA they may even be able to cut ties next year if need be. All i'm saying is PG, he's the guy now, accept it. He has 16 games to prove it in the regular season, he did well last year when given starting time and not being brought in cold. The young guys clearly want him in there, Celek was pimping him hard as was Pimp. Give him a shot, if he fails, its not like they were going to win a SB this season. IF he exceeds expectations, then we have something wrapped up for 5 years at the minimum. All i know is Jaws is in love with the video from him starting, and he's not the only one who was very surprised in his reads and his starts in general. shtein, when you have calls coming from a guy like Pete Carroll trying to get Kolb, it at least says he's not garbage, he's our garbage, and we'll give him a shot now.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on April 05, 2010, 09:50:17 AMEagles/taterskins has to be SNF or MNF Week 1.
Unless there's a last-minute change, the best they can do is 4:15. The Giants have SNF and the Jets have MNF...
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 05, 2010, 10:43:43 AM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on April 05, 2010, 09:50:17 AMEagles/taterskins has to be SNF or MNF Week 1.
Unless there's a last-minute change, the best they can do is 4:15. The Giants have SNF and the Jets have MNF...
Don't they open with 2 monday night gams in the last few years. I guess these are all east coast games so it would be harder to do.
Forgot about the whole flipping coin for stadium opener thing. They won't play week 1 then. I'd be shocked if the first Eagles/Skins game isn't Sunday or Monday night.
QuoteMcNabb will face the Eagles on Monday, October 26
Posted by Mike Florio on April 5, 2010 9:54 AM ET
During the Monday morning SportsCenter on ESPN, anchor Sage Steele offered up a juicy morsel that deserves far greater attention.
Steele said that taterskins quarterback Donovan McNabb will face the Eagles for the first time on October 26, in a Monday Night Football game played in Washington.
And so the league apparently has provided ESPN with a tiny glimpse at the closely-guarded 2010 regular-season schedule.
It's unknown when McNabb will return to Philly; but like Brett Favre in 2009, McNabb will see his long-time team at home in prime-time.
Besides the 26th being a Tuesday, they later said they were looking at last year's schedule. Feva, WTF
Kolb's interview was a million times better than any Mcnabb presser
He's fiery!
And the obsessed with leadership Philadelphia media asked the damn leader question a lot.
I hope Kolb can take care of business.
their obsession with leadership is funny. I know i need someone to look up to or be scared of to do my job correctly and professional athletes are no different.
lol
Quote"Obviously we know what Donovan's done," Kolb said. "He's been a Pro Bowl quarterback; he's led this team to a Super Bowl and five NFC championships. Hopefully the only thing we change in that is that we win the Super Bowl.
"That's our number one goal. That's been our goal since I've been here and it's been our goal since Andy's been here. It's not, of course we want to win the division, it's not been to win 10 games, it's been to win a Super Bowl and that's not going to change because we're going younger or because people think we're in a rebuilding year. It's going to be the same focus for us day in and day out as it was when we had all the veterans here and we were trying to make those runs two or three years ago."
Kolb also added that he was unfazed when Reid told him that McNabb would remain in the NFC East and would face off against the Eagles twice a season.
"Really I didn't even blink when Andy told me, I really didn't," he said. "I'm excited about it. I think, sure it's going to have a little bit of drama but at the same time it's going to be exciting. I mean, this is going to be a fun ride and I truly have that outlook on it, I'm looking forward to it and I think that this team will surprise some people."
Giddy up.
i like the cut of his jib
number one goal is rebuilding right now Kolby, there ain't no super bowl coming to this city until the problem is resolved and the major problem is AR.
They were championship games, and not championships, but that's a minor detail.
He was in Texas like MDS then.
Tequila.
fargin' A. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100406_20_things_to_ponder_about_Eagles_QB_Kevin_Kolb.html)
QuoteUsed to hunt wild hogs, some up to 150 pounds, with a bowie knife. Just one mettlesome hog is capable of destroying an entire crop of farmland.
(http://www.iowacobb.com/images/slim%20cob.jpg)
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 06, 2010, 06:27:20 AM
fargin' A. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100406_20_things_to_ponder_about_Eagles_QB_Kevin_Kolb.html)
Quote17. Kolb once explained one advantage to growing up country. "When you're out in the woods and you get beat up, your mom's not there to pick you up. I'd flip my four-wheeler or something, want to lay down there and be hurt. There's nobody there to cry for you. You got to jump up and keep going."
Polar opposite of what mama 5 did
5 played on a broken ankle and with a sports hernia, but his emotional health was a different story.
All aboard! (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/89974787.html)
Quote"This offense is built on rhythm and it's built on using the short passing game as an extension of the run and just dissecting people," Kolb said. "There's a lot on the quarterback's shoulders. It's built on the quarterback making decisions at the line. My preparation, nobody's ever going to outwork me.
Quote"When he first came in (as a rookie), you could see the type of leader he was," Celek said. "He's willing to work. He wants to be the best. And he's not going to stop short of that. He's willing to do what it takes to be the best quarterback in the NFL, and I think he will be that one day."
So, steroids?
QuoteAshley Fox: Kolb to lead Birds' young guns
POSTED: April 6, 2010
Inquirer NFL columnist
The movement began last season. Donovan McNabb was out with a broken rib, and Kevin Kolb was the Eagles' starting quarterback for two games.
While he made some mistakes in a loss to New Orleans, Kolb did some good things. Spread the football around. Got the receivers the ball where they could gain yards after the catch. Moved the team down the field, gaining 391 passing yards, the 12th-highest total in team history.
The next week against Kansas City, Kolb was even more relaxed, more poised, and more accurate.
Then McNabb was back, and it was as if the life got sucked out of the team, according to one player I spoke with Monday. The offense was explosive at times, stagnant at others, and slowly, players began to doubt McNabb and wish for Kolb.
Sunday night, that wish came true when the Eagles announced that they had traded McNabb to Washington. Kolb is the man now. Michael Vick is the backup. And McNabb is a memory.
It's monumental for the Eagles, and certainly scary, because you just don't know how a quarterback will perform until he's given the chance. It's possible Kolb doesn't have the skills to become an elite quarterback. His arm might not be strong enough, his feet not fleet enough.
Replicating McNabb's success won't be easy. McNabb spoiled people with his ability to win and lead the Eagles to the playoffs. If anything, he was a victim of his own success. Plenty of fans would love for their team to be in five NFC championship games, but for Eagles fans, it understandably just wasn't enough.
The Eagles' front office, their coaching staff, and certainly the players believe that Kolb can be that guy, as Brent Celek said, to lead them to the "promised land." On Monday, a parade of players spoke about Kolb's relentless dedication to studying the game, about how he knows what every player on offense is supposed to be doing during every play, about how calm he is making checks at the line of scrimmage, and about what kind of leader he is.
In an instant, Kolb went from the future to the present. He is now the guy. Guard Todd Herremans called having Kolb under center "refreshing." :-* @ PHREAK.
"The whole locker room is behind him," Herremans said.
That would include all those kids. And why not? Kolb is one of them. The projected starters on offense have an average age of 24. Only three guys on the team are over 30, only three were drafted by the team before 2006, and only two were on the 2004 team that went to the Super Bowl.
These guys are young, and Kolb is their leader.
On his first day as the Eagles' starting quarterback, Kolb got to the NovaCare Complex at 8 a.m. He lifted weights for about 45 minutes, and then walked through the locker room. "It's time to go," he said to DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Jason Avant, Celek, and the other pass catchers.
"He just grabbed me and was very excited," Jackson said. "There is a lot of good, positive energy going around our team."
There's something to be said for that.
Kolb grew up in Texas the son of a football coach. He's been in a locker room since he was 6 years old. He knows the game, knows the position, is hungry, and is smart enough to know there are plenty of things he doesn't know and therefore he needs some help.
That's why Kolb said he hopes to talk with Drew Brees. He wants to pick Brees' brain about things like how to prepare his body for the season, how to approach games, and some mechanics of being a starter in this league.
Kolb also is committed to staying in Philadelphia during the off-season. Although he is going back and forth to his home in Fort Worth, Texas - Kolb's wife is due to have their second daughter any minute now - he has been in Philadelphia during the week since March 15.
"Being here and being a part of all these workouts and these minicamps and being here day in and day out, nothing can replace that," Kolb said, a bright green Eagles hat on his head. "That's the one thing that I learned when I first got here is that I never want to lose that. I want to take my time off, and I want to rest, but this is a very important part of the season for me right here."
It is. Team chemistry is built in the off-season. As young as the Eagles are, they'll need every advantage, however small, they can muster.
Like every other quarterback in his first season as a starter, Kolb will need time to adjust, but he has the benefit of having been here for three full years. He's watched, and he's waited, and that will serve him well.
Look at Aaron Rodgers. For three years, he sat behind Brett Favre. As the starter in 2008, Rodgers threw for more than 4,000 yards, but the team finished 6-10. Last year, he topped 4,400 yards, led the Packers to 11 regular-season wins, and then lost to Arizona in a shoot-out in the playoffs.
That's a logical path for Kolb.
If he can build on what he did in two starts last season, maybe Kolb will be better faster than Rodgers. Kolb showed his young teammates in those starts that he could be the guy, and they could be successful with him.
"I saw a confidence boost for him," Maclin said. "I saw he knew where to throw the ball, when to throw the ball, and what receiver to throw the ball to at the right time. That's all you can ask of a quarterback."
And that's why the young guns, as Jackson called the Eagles now, were ready for Kolb.
Everyone in the locker room clearly hates him and hopes he fails.
DONOVAN COME HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOME! :'(
yeah but people on the interent say kolb blows and if it's on the internet it can't be wrong.
LOL...I'm sorry, what did you think they would say?
"ugh THIS guy is our QB, I quit!"???
They would have if they posted on :CF
:-D
i need munson to re-post that perfectly thrown, perfectly paced throw to Desean to remind me how much he sucks.
or maybe he can post the slant throw between two defenders in the chiefs game to remind me how weak his arm is
The throw to DeSean had nothing to do with him sucking, it had to do with his weak ass arm strength. You can tell that ball was a duck and the only reason why it was completed was because of the broken coverage. Any athelte in the area makes a play on that ball.
Kolb's arm strength sucks. Hopefully it won't lead to a ton of undercut routes and some pick 6's.
yup, lots of routes being undercut, just like on this play
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d812fb7f6/Kevin-Kolb-Highlight-WK-03-vs-Chiefs-2009
Can someone tell me why the NFL thinks I want to see players pretending to be volcanoes in slow motion?
there are other good throws by him, but thats a horrible video to prove a point
the slant pass was completely behind jackson, and kolb was very fortunate that the chiefs defenders blow so bad
he fit a ball between two defenders...definitely a terrible throw
arm strength might be the most overrated qb attribute out there. joe montana did not have a strong arm. that's why he went in the 3rd round. jeff george had a cannon, was the first pick in the 1990 draft. tom brady is not known for having an extremely strong arm. kyle boller was drafted in the first round because he could throw a ball 50 yds on his knees.
this isn't the houston oilers run and shoot offense or the rams gsot. it's the wco which is based on short/intermediate timing routes and anyone who doesn't think that kolb isn't better suited for the wco than mcnabb is a farging moron. doesn't mean he'll have more success, but "on paper" kolb def appears to be the better match.
using video of one "duck" pass to try and prove that kolb has a weak arm is also pretty dumb. it's one pass. even the best qb's out there throw the occasional wobbler. big deal. if he's throwing them out there like that 30% of the time, then it's a problem. but i suspect that it isn't a regular occurance otherwise there would be lots of video out there highlighting all of the horrible throws that kolb made during his 2 starts last year.
Quote from: Munson on April 06, 2010, 02:19:36 PM
The throw to DeSean had nothing to do with him sucking, it had to do with his weak ass arm strength. You can tell that ball was a duck and the only reason why it was completed was because of the broken coverage. Any athelte in the area makes a play on that ball.
Kolb's arm strength sucks. Hopefully it won't lead to a ton of undercut routes and some pick 6's.
Imagine finding out you got rejected from community college, then finding out that your alcoholic father got arrested for domestic abuse, you lost all your life savings in a Ponzi scheme, and all of this happens to you while you're on the space shuttle Challenger. Then you wake up and it's all a bad dream, except you realize that you're at work without clothes on, and work is NASA and you're really on the space shuttle Challenger. That's what this post is like, only infinitely worse.
Quote from: Dalton on April 06, 2010, 03:14:30 PM
Quote from: Munson on April 06, 2010, 02:19:36 PM
The throw to DeSean had nothing to do with him sucking, it had to do with his weak ass arm strength. You can tell that ball was a duck and the only reason why it was completed was because of the broken coverage. Any athelte in the area makes a play on that ball.
Kolb's arm strength sucks. Hopefully it won't lead to a ton of undercut routes and some pick 6's.
Imagine finding out you got rejected from community college, then finding out that your alcoholic father got arrested for domestic abuse, you lost all your life savings in a Ponzi scheme, and all of this happens to you while you're on the space shuttle Challenger. Then you wake up and it's all a bad dream, except you realize that you're at work without clothes on, and work is NASA and you're really on the space shuttle Challenger. That's what this post is like, only infinitely worse.
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damn thats a long way to go for a punchline...but completely understood never-the-less
munsons ability to stand behind an amazingly horrible point is actually more impressive that his initial idiocy..what great about it too is that he really believes what hes saying
it has nothing to do with being stubborn
Analyzing Munson's cognitive skills might be the least interesting professional prospect I've ever heard of.
Pass (pun intended).
Sunny, go watch some of his throws on out routes. Any CB that plays like an asante-jump the route type player is gonna have a field day in this offense with all the come back/out/hook routes. Kolb has no arm and hopefully he's at least some what quick on a brees/brady level when he gets the ball out.
If he is, he'll be pretty successful. If he isn't, he's gonna throw a ton of pics eli manning style.
so you don't know what he'll be either way is what you're saying right muns ?
he has no clue how good he will be
but thats neight here nor there...the point is no one is even saying his arm is strong...just that the video he posted was not even close to an example of arm strength...and was as perfect a pass as could possibly be thrown on that particular play
I wonder if the Patriots had a retarded fan who argued Brady wouldn't be as good as Bledsoe because he had a weaker arm.
but it was wobbly!
i get all that i am pointing out to him the lunacy of his arguments against kolb which in this case is muns picking out one play.
by his logic he would say freddie mitchell was HOF by posting a vid of the 4&26 play.
Quote from: smeags on April 06, 2010, 05:23:54 PM
i get all that i am pointing out to him the lunacy of his arguments against kolb which in this case is muns picking out one play.
by his logic he would say freddie mitchell was HOF by posting a vid of the 4&26 play.
or you would post a video of a running play and say cobb cant read a defense
that means he's a total bust. all is lost.
that play was just an example of his weak ass arm and how it will get him into trouble when a coverage isn't totally blown like it was on that play. Kolb winds up and throws a lame duck to Jackson. If there's anyone in the area, they have all the time in the world to recover and make a play on the ball. There are plenty of other examples, including more vid from the saints game on youtube. you're a big boy, you can look it up yourself.
If he can make quick decisions and get the ball out faster then the defense can react, he'll be fine. I'm not saying he's going to be a total bust, but I think at this point in time it's very easy to say he's closer to that then he is winning this franchise a SB. Not with the way the offense is run right now. Eli has a weak ass arm but when they won the SB, was in an offense that had great oline play, a running attack to balance out the offense, and an overachieving defense. I don't see the Eagles bringing any of that to the table, at least for the next couple of years.
Ah, the backtracking post so he can claim that he was right all along either way. Brilliant!
Where's that didn't read shaking his head guy
Quote from: Munson on April 06, 2010, 06:02:59 PM
I think at this point in time it's very easy to say he's closer to that (being a bust) then he is winning this franchise a SB.
you can make this statement about every single quarterback in the nfl that hasn't won a super bowl because the odds of any 1 person from birth, growing up to win a super bowl are like 1:100,000,000. so the odds of not winning a super bowl are far more realistic and attainable.
it's like saying that i'm closer to being on welfare than i am to being a millionaire. well no shtein. only like 1% of our population are millionaires so naturally, i'm more likely to go broke than i am to get rich.
i've purposely refrained from responding to some of your posts lately, but you are really outdoing yourself on this one. none of us know how good or bad kolb is going to be, but the clip you posted to try and validate him having a weak arm is simply awful.
just stop with this argument. it's literally getting painful to watch and read at this point....like a mouse stuck on a glue trap that's dislocated all of it's limbs trying to escape and it's still just wiggling away thinking that with a little more effort it will eventually be free. but it won't. because it can't. it just can't.
It's just a flesh wound! (http://sultanofsnow.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/monty-python-black-knight-with-one-arm-off-794357.jpg)
pretty much.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 06, 2010, 06:39:09 PM
Quote from: Munson on April 06, 2010, 06:02:59 PM
I think at this point in time it's very easy to say he's closer to that (being a bust) then he is winning this franchise a SB.
you can make this statement about every single quarterback in the nfl that hasn't won a super bowl because the odds of any 1 person from birth, growing up to win a super bowl are like 1:100,000,000. so the odds of not winning a super bowl are far more realistic and attainable.
it's like saying that i'm closer to being on welfare than i am to being a millionaire. well no shtein. only like 1% of our population are millionaires so naturally, i'm more likely to go broke than i am to get rich.
i've purposely refrained from responding to some of your posts lately, but you are really outdoing yourself on this one. none of us know how good or bad kolb is going to be, but the clip you posted to try and validate him having a weak arm is simply awful.
just stop with this argument. it's literally getting painful to watch and read at this point....like a mouse stuck on a glue trap that's dislocated all of it's limbs trying to escape and it's still just wiggling away thinking that with a little more effort it will eventually be free. but it won't. because it can't. it just can't.
Like I said, there are plenty of other examples of his lame duck arm on youtube, I'm not going to do all the work. You can look them up yourself. He has no zip on the ball on out routes and come back routes, and all it's gonna take is someone brave enough to jump routes to pick him off.
As for how good or bad he's gonna be, saying no one knows is just as simple and easy as saying he's probably not going to win a SB. But does anyone really think he's going to lead an offense the way Reid runs it to the SB? With a leaking defense to back him up when he's having a bad day? McNabb couldn't do it. Garcia couldn't do it. But Kevin Kolb, he just might! Everyone keeps saying well look how good Aaron Rodgers is, and that dude hasn't won a SB either.
They're gonna have an off year or two as they "reload" but unless Kolb progresses to Brees/Brady like status, or Reid learns how to run an offense better, it's gonna be the same old same old playoff exits without a SB victory.
I'm hoping for the best and expecting the worst. Crazy for an eagles fan, I know.
munson is to :CF as Hartnell is to the Flyers
Not quite. Hartnell scores occasionally.
Quote from: Munson on April 06, 2010, 07:05:35 PM
Like I said, there are plenty of other examples of his lame duck arm on youtube, I'm not going to do all the work. You can look them up yourself.
here's the thing.....you're the one making the argument so it's up to
you to provide the evidence to support your claim.
i realize this place is pretty much around to beat things into the ground but this munson kolb sucks routine is perhaps the worst of the lot. and i know a little something about this.
To step away from the Munson infatuation for a minute...
lol at the rah-rah article posted by Rome. Ok, so because of that fluff piece I am supposed feel confident that he can play QB?
I mean, I'm not one of those idiots who will root against the team because I don't like someone. I don't call radio stations with false bravado and say I'm going to boycott the team.
I hope he does well. But I just don't see it happening. I hope that I am wrong as hell....
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2010, 10:03:23 PM
I mean, I'm not one of those idiots who will root against the team because I don't like someone.
hahaha - who the farg are you kidding?
you've already done it about 1,000 times since sunday.
Really?
I've said farg a million times and cursed the ignorant boobs running the team but I have never said I will root against them. Are you nuts?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2010, 10:03:23 PM
I hope he does well. But I just don't see it happening. I hope that I am wrong as hell....
thanks for coming to my party. drinks are on the left....
do i really have to go back and sort through your crying ass posts looking for instances where you've cursed everyone from lurie down to the putz who walks around the linc scraping gum off the concrete because that little dickhead bitch got traded?
please say no.
Quote from: Rome on April 06, 2010, 10:12:39 PM
do i really have to go back and sort through your crying ass posts looking for instances where you've cursed everyone from lurie down to the putz who walks around the linc scraping gum off the concrete because that little dickhead bitch got traded?
please say no.
Of course not. Because I know I've cursed them all. I've been cursing them since Sunday night and I will curse them for a long time. Im pissed and I think they mad a massive mistake.
But I will never root against my team. That's ridiculous.
it was great listening to donovan taking shots at the eagles.
great!
Quarterbacks with weak arms suck? This guy (and his 4 rings) would like a word with you:
(http://www.meetingtent.com/MeruMadeEasy/images/%28SC%29Joe_Montana_Photo.jpg)
Not saying Kolb is the next Joe of course...
Quote from: Rome on April 06, 2010, 10:34:13 PM
it was great listening to donovan taking shots at the eagles.
great!
Ain't no goddamn different that the things we've complained about in the past, right?
* no run game/lack of running the ball
* jettisoning players on the north side of 30
Right or wrong?
The dumping of players over 30 thing has worked out pretty farging well in 90% of the cases. The only one that doesn't come off well is Dawkins, and that's only because the Eagles had no one ready to step into the role. They may be repeating that with Sheldon, but we'll see what they do at corner between now the the beginning of the season.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 06, 2010, 10:58:43 PM
The dumping of players over 30 thing has worked out pretty farging well in 90% of the cases. The only one that doesn't come off well is Dawkins, and that's only because the Eagles had no one ready to step into the role. They may be repeating that with Sheldon, but we'll see what they do at corner between now the the beginning of the season.
Exactly...it's not like this team is winning squat next season. Having a young, explosive offense, some young pieces on D, and a shteinload of draft picks is better than keeping the crap they released and giving it another try with Mcnabb.
wait so theres tons of video on the net showcasing cobbs weak arm and munson picked the one video that was the worst possible example of it?
and now wants everyone else to go out find the rest?
just classic
Quote from: Dalton on April 06, 2010, 11:03:59 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 06, 2010, 10:58:43 PM
The dumping of players over 30 thing has worked out pretty farging well in 90% of the cases. The only one that doesn't come off well is Dawkins, and that's only because the Eagles had no one ready to step into the role. They may be repeating that with Sheldon, but we'll see what they do at corner between now the the beginning of the season.
Exactly...it's not like this team is winning squat next season. Having a young, explosive offense, some young pieces on D, and a shteinload of draft picks is better than keeping the crap they released and giving it another try with Mcnabb.
words cant really describe how excited i am for the next three years with this team...starting with this years draft which is going to be awesome...other than a season like the eagles had in 04 when they were arguably the best team in the nfl during the regular season and a bonafied championship contender there is nothing better than having a favorite team that is young and developing and being able to follow that hopefully towards a title
compare this to the incredible apathy i would have had if mcnabb had come back and it makes this even better
its a GREAT time to be an eagle fan
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2010, 10:52:01 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 06, 2010, 10:34:13 PM
it was great listening to donovan taking shots at the eagles.
great!
Ain't no goddamn different that the things we've complained about in the past, right?
* no run game/lack of running the ball
* jettisoning players on the north side of 30
Right or wrong?
Random internet dorks talking about the Eagles' weaknesses is exactly the same as its former 11-year starting quarterback doing the same thing... WHILE HOLDING A taterskinS JERSEY WITH HIS NAME ON IT.
I'd agree with IGY strongly if I were at all convinced that there is going to be a 2011 season.
i'd also agree if i didn't think that the eagles will find some way to dork up the draft. either by reaching for a player or not addressing a need or taking on another project player that they'll spin as being the next big thing and will keep him around for 3 years and wasting a roster spot.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2010, 07:03:23 AM
words cant really describe how excited i am for the next three years with this team...
You know, just reading this now, I have just realized that I am looking forward to the start of the season more than I have in the past 2 or 3 years. This past season it almost felt like an obligation to force myself to sit down and watch the games...
I know they'll probably be 9-7...8-8... maybe 10-6 with a couple of fluke games... but I am really looking forward to seeing it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2010, 07:03:23 AM
Quote from: Dalton on April 06, 2010, 11:03:59 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 06, 2010, 10:58:43 PM
The dumping of players over 30 thing has worked out pretty farging well in 90% of the cases. The only one that doesn't come off well is Dawkins, and that's only because the Eagles had no one ready to step into the role. They may be repeating that with Sheldon, but we'll see what they do at corner between now the the beginning of the season.
Exactly...it's not like this team is winning squat next season. Having a young, explosive offense, some young pieces on D, and a shteinload of draft picks is better than keeping the crap they released and giving it another try with Mcnabb.
words cant really describe how excited i am for the next three years with this team...starting with this years draft which is going to be awesome...other than a season like the eagles had in 04 when they were arguably the best team in the nfl during the regular season and a bonafied championship contender there is nothing better than having a favorite team that is young and developing and being able to follow that hopefully towards a title
compare this to the incredible apathy i would have had if mcnabb had come back and it makes this even better
its a GREAT time to be an eagle fan
WTF makes you so excited about the draft? Reid and our great new GM are running it or did you forget? Can not wait for them to draft Kolb's replacement already or the next set of Gocongs. Yippee!
Quote from: charlie on April 07, 2010, 10:41:24 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2010, 07:03:23 AM
words cant really describe how excited i am for the next three years with this team...
You know, just reading this now, I have just realized that I am looking forward to the start of the season more than I have in the past 2 or 3 years. This past season it almost felt like an obligation to force myself to sit down and watch the games...
I know they'll probably be 9-7...8-8... maybe 10-6 with a couple of fluke games... but I am really looking forward to seeing it.
shtein...it wont ever be an obligation or a forced effort to watch an eagles game or any nfl game for that matter
theres only 16 games...better be a part of all of them for better or for worse
Quote from: reese125 on April 07, 2010, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: charlie on April 07, 2010, 10:41:24 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2010, 07:03:23 AM
words cant really describe how excited i am for the next three years with this team...
You know, just reading this now, I have just realized that I am looking forward to the start of the season more than I have in the past 2 or 3 years. This past season it almost felt like an obligation to force myself to sit down and watch the games...
I know they'll probably be 9-7...8-8... maybe 10-6 with a couple of fluke games... but I am really looking forward to seeing it.
shtein...it wont ever be an obligation or a forced effort to watch an eagles game or any nfl game for that matter
theres only 16 games...better be a part of all of them for better or for worse
Did you smash your head through a wall and crush a beer can on your head after you typed that?
did it look like i was excited when I wrote that? couldnt of been more calm
but you on the other hand need to be forced to watch an eagles game...somethings not right there.
Quote from: reese125 on April 07, 2010, 10:51:27 AM
but you on the other hand need to be forced to watch an eagles game...somethings not right there.
You're powers of reading comprehension are top notch.
QuoteThis past season it almost felt like an obligation to force myself to sit down and watch the games...
lets talk genius..or are you going to spin this?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2010, 07:03:23 AM
words cant really describe how excited i am for the next three years with this team...starting with this years draft which is going to be awesome...
compare this to the incredible apathy i would have had if mcnabb had come back and it makes this even better
this is exactly how i feel.
Quote from: reese125 on April 07, 2010, 10:53:44 AM
QuoteThis past season it almost felt like an obligation to force myself to sit down and watch the games...
lets talk genius..or are you going to spin this?
Not spinning anything. Read what I wrote. Or don't... I really couldn't care less. I'm done with this stupid line of conversation.
Quote from: charlie on April 07, 2010, 10:49:26 AM
Quote from: reese125 on April 07, 2010, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: charlie on April 07, 2010, 10:41:24 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2010, 07:03:23 AM
words cant really describe how excited i am for the next three years with this team...
You know, just reading this now, I have just realized that I am looking forward to the start of the season more than I have in the past 2 or 3 years. This past season it almost felt like an obligation to force myself to sit down and watch the games...
I know they'll probably be 9-7...8-8... maybe 10-6 with a couple of fluke games... but I am really looking forward to seeing it.
shtein...it wont ever be an obligation or a forced effort to watch an eagles game or any nfl game for that matter
theres only 16 games...better be a part of all of them for better or for worse
Did you smash your head through a wall and crush a beer can on your head after you typed that?
lets just say there are more intelligent people on this board than reese
Quote from: Magical_Retard on April 07, 2010, 10:43:28 AM
WTF makes you so excited about the draft? Reid and our great new GM are running it or did you forget? Can not wait for them to draft Kolb's replacement already or the next set of Gocongs. Yippee!
because they have a ton of picks in one of the deepest drafts in history...and as much as reoseman makes me sick im gonna trust reid to do the right thing on many of the picks...if and when this and other drafts down the road become trainwrecks perhaps ill lose hope...but donovan going and the revamping of this team to a young and hopefully up and comer is beating back some of my normal cynicism
Yes McNabb is gone but he had nothing to do with the terrible drafts and reaches they have made in the past. WTF is Trevor Laws still doing on this team?
I would be happy if they hit on 2 good players this draft.
Quotelets just say there are more intelligent people on this board than reese
Im not a fan of yours, but I actually agree with you.
I just damn well know for certain that youre not one of them.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on April 07, 2010, 11:09:24 AM
Yes McNabb is gone but he had nothing to do with the terrible drafts and reaches they have made in the past. WTF is Trevor Laws still doing on this team?
they have nothing to do with each other...im saying the excitement of mcnabb being gone plus the revamping of the roster plus all the picks they have this year has me more cheery than if all those things didnt happen...and that happiness is overshadowing the normal hatred id have for howie
also as much as i think the hiring is complete bullshtein im willing to give this new PP regime the benefit of the doubt
I just don't think its a new regime. Don't think much of anything will change from the philosophy they have and the type of players they draft.
New GM plus new DC (or rather a DC in the first full year of being in charge) could mean a difference in player / position priorities. Or things could remain status quo, but I'm definitely on the excited side of the fence to see what happens.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on April 07, 2010, 11:21:05 AM
I just don't think its a new regime. Don't think much of anything will change from the philosophy they have and the type of players they draft.
the top two college PP guys have been fired...as have a lot of their scouts...all indications point to andy having less input...how is that not a new PP regime
the unknown places fear in the weak and excitment in the strong.
Here is a quote by John Harbaugh on Kevin Kolb Before the Saints Game
A note from John Harbaugh on Kevin Kolb:
"All I know is I saw Kevin Kolb every day in practice for the year I was the secondary coach when he was the guy going against the defense as the scout team quarterback,'' Harbaugh said. "When we did red zone, we couldn't defend him. I mean he'd run the red zone offense for the team we were going to play. We had the No. 1-ranked red-zone defense in the league 2 years ago. And we couldn't stop Kevin Kolb. Throwing to Mike Gasperson every day in practice. He picked us apart...(The coaches) love him. He's got all the tools. He's a leader. He's tough. He plays the game the right way."
Every bit of that is gold. And A+ for the Mike Gasperson reference.
Quote from: BobbyT on April 07, 2010, 12:52:28 PM
Here is a quote by John Harbaugh on Kevin Kolb Before the Saints Game
A note from John Harbaugh on Kevin Kolb:
"All I know is I saw Kevin Kolb every day in practice for the year I was the secondary coach when he was the guy going against the defense as the scout team quarterback,'' Harbaugh said. "When we did red zone, we couldn't defend him. I mean he'd run the red zone offense for the team we were going to play. We had the No. 1-ranked red-zone defense in the league 2 years ago. And we couldn't stop Kevin Kolb. Throwing to Mike Gasperson every day in practice. He picked us apart...(The coaches) love him. He's got all the tools. He's a leader. He's tough. He plays the game the right way."
i see you left out the part where harbaugh talks about kolb's noodle arm. clever.
Good to know that the Eagles could execute other teams' red zone offenses but not their own. Die Reid die.
Obviously, Kolb will help the Eagles become the #1 red zone offense this year, provided he doesn't throw to Jackson before midfield.
kolb/gasperson >>>>>>>> manning/harrison
Quote from: rjs246 on April 07, 2010, 12:57:46 PM
Good to know that the Eagles could execute other teams' red zone offenses but not their own. Die Reid die.
ditto.
And I have no faith in the draft. I wish I could. And I hope beyond belief that they do something right, but I just have no faith with Howie and Co.
The Eagles will always stay true to their board. The good news is that their board has started to become much more conventional and correct in recent memory. They drafted Gocong and Brian Smith in the 3rd, but also Stewart Bradley. They drafted Trevor Laws in the 2nd, but took DeSean Jackson two picks later. They actually got a playmaking WR in the 1st last year instead of a hard-working, high-motor white guy.
With 11 picks, they're bound to hit a couple out of the park, even by accident. Whiner.
even smyth while a reach and a failure was still not their normal pick...they choose him on talent and athleticism
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 07, 2010, 01:45:12 PM
The Eagles will always stay true to their board. The good news is that their board has started to become much more conventional and correct in recent memory. They drafted Gocong and Brian Smith in the 3rd, but also Stewart Bradley. They drafted Trevor Laws in the 2nd, but took DeSean Jackson two picks later. They actually got a playmaking WR in the 1st last year instead of a hard-working, high-motor white guy.
With 11 picks, they're bound to hit a couple out of the park, even by accident. Whiner.
A couple of them are sure to be good picks, but they'll probably be picks they use to trade up for some lineman.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 07, 2010, 01:35:10 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on April 07, 2010, 12:57:46 PM
Good to know that the Eagles could execute other teams' red zone offenses but not their own. Die Reid die.
ditto.
And I have no faith in the draft. I wish I could. And I hope beyond belief that they do something right, but I just have no faith with Howie and Co.
Howie has evidently had significant input on the draft since the 2008 class, PG. Think of the picks that have been made since then and you have your answer, and that is, some good picks and some bad, just like every other NFL team.
LOL, when the media posted that after he was "hired"...just about everyone on here laughed their asses off that it was bullshtein.
NOW you buy into it. LOL
That's a lot of LOL'ing there.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 07, 2010, 02:28:37 PM
LOL, when the media posted that after he was "hired"...just about everyone on here laughed their asses off that it was bullshtein.
NOW you buy into it. LOL
this.
Quote from: Rome on April 07, 2010, 02:30:34 PM
That's a lot of LOL'ing there.
and this.
lolololololol
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 07, 2010, 02:28:37 PM
LOL, when the media posted that after he was "hired"...just about everyone on here laughed their asses off that it was bullshtein.
NOW you buy into it. LOL
everyone still is laughing but theres a difference btwn giving a guy a job he doesnt deserve and already writing off him as a failure before he does that job
i fully admit to playing both sides of the fence since the worst offseason move by far is hiring roseman while at the same time i have to say im basically all IN with what hes done so far for this offseason
as for the draft ill be the first in line to rip if he imo bungles the it this year this year...but im willing to give him a shot...really what other choice do we have
IGY the optimist is boring.
I am definitely liking what he is doing so far. He is getting rid of dead weight, Sheldon being the exception to that. Those players were not championship caliber. I agree with IGY while we might not think he deserves the job he should at least get a chance to prove himself wrong.
Did anybody hear the interview with him on NFL Radio today? Schein and Wilcotts were raving about it. It was decent but they were acting like it was the best interview ever.
Transcript or GTFO
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It's a miracle that he could even break the skin with that weak-ass arm.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 07, 2010, 09:05:12 PM
It's a miracle that he could even break the skin with that weak-ass arm.
hahaha
I heard QB Jesus' interview and it was like his PC the other day. He certainly talks a good game and is more open than Donovan. And in Philadelphia, where press conferences are all the rave, is probably being slurped up.
As for what IGY said...I'm hyped for the draft too. This draft is deep and they've got 11 picks. I am very curious to see how they shape the team. They don't want us to use the word rebuilding...so show us what the hell you're gonna do to win, Shakedown.
Why is he QB Jesus? I agree from what I heard of the interview it didn't really sound any different. I was just commenting on the way Schein and Wilcotts were acting, though some of those guys do that sthein to get more listeners.
Phreak is a broken man right now. As Don Ho would say. we're here for you bruddah
phreak's been cracked open like humpty dumpty.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 07, 2010, 10:23:05 PM
Why is he QB Jesus? I agree from what I heard of the interview it didn't really sound any different. I was just commenting on the way Schein and Wilcotts were acting, though some of those guys do that sthein to get more listeners.
Because he's been anointed by more than half the fan base.
Jesus H Kolb
The first super bowl winning QB for the Andy Reid coached Philadelphia Eagles!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 07, 2010, 10:41:19 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 07, 2010, 10:23:05 PM
Why is he QB Jesus? I agree from what I heard of the interview it didn't really sound any different. I was just commenting on the way Schein and Wilcotts were acting, though some of those guys do that sthein to get more listeners.
Because he's been anointed by more than half the fan base.
Jesus H Kolb
I don't know that he has been anointed, people are just excited. I know I am, it is refreshing to see some new blood injected into a stale team.
QuoteEarlier this evening, we explained that the 30 percent rule and the uncapped year prevent, as a practical matter, the Eagles from giving a long-term contract to new starting quarterback Kevin Kolb.
But that doesn't preclude a short-term deal that would increase Kolb's pay, via a signing bonus and the maximum increase of his base pay that the 30 percent rule will allow.
We're hearing rumblings that, indeed, such a contract could be in the offing. Whether it covers only 2010 or also encompasses 2011 remains to be seen.
Either way, the Eagles apparently recognize that it's fundamentally unfair to pay Kolb more than 95 percent less than Donovan McNabb was due to earn. Still, a long-term deal won't be signed until 2011, at the earliest.
per PFT
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 07, 2010, 10:41:19 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 07, 2010, 10:23:05 PM
Why is he QB Jesus? I agree from what I heard of the interview it didn't really sound any different. I was just commenting on the way Schein and Wilcotts were acting, though some of those guys do that sthein to get more listeners.
Because he's been anointed by more than half the fan base.
Jesus H Kolb
Taking hyperbole lessons from MDS and IGY? So long as they're not giving you typing lessons.
i like the sound of kevin khrist better.
Jesus didn't have a good arm too.
Couldn't hit a curve ball either.
"The people in the front office and coach Reid have seen Kevin's development over the last three years, and they feel it's time. And I'll tell ya what, a lot of guys on the team feel the exact same way. We're ready to rally behind him and get this thing going."
Celek on this whole thing. GET ON NOW PHREAK AND PG AND WHOEVER ELSE IS BEING A STUBBORN 5 LOVER.
Tom Selleck!
the players on the team right now have "rallied around" cobb more in the last two days than any of mcnabbs teammates over the last 11 years
I know and I don't want to read too much into it but it sure does seem like everybody is on board. You also haven't heard one player come out and speak negatively about the trade.
cobbs > mcnabbs
Quote
"Coming from the University of Houston, nobody knew who Kevin was," Roy recalled, "especially Philadelphia fans; they had no idea who Kevin was. But I'm telling you, they're going to be real happy. I think Kevin's gonna take 'em to places they haven't been before."
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/eagles/20100408_Kolb_s_parents_excited_about_son_as_Eagles__new_starting_QB.html
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2010, 07:10:43 AM
the players on the team right now have "rallied around" cobb more in the last two days than any of mcnabbs teammates over the last 11 years
this is 100% accurate.
it's like a 260 pound corny moonwalking albatross has been lifted off their backs.
and i, for one, am stoked about that.
Lanell Kolb still teaches junior-high reading. Roy manages the RV park and prepares bids for a company that makes commercial cabinets.
Maybe Phreak deals with Roy
Quote from: Rome on April 08, 2010, 07:39:43 AM
it's like a 260 pound corny moonwalking albatross has been lifted off their backs.
har har
"Here's my interpretation of Kevin Kolb. I think he's a smart kid with good instincts. I think he has a good, but not a great or an elite arm. He doesn't have Donovan's arm. I think they'll go back more towards that West Coast Offense that they got away from a little bit because Donovan's strength was driving the ball down the field vertically," Mayock said.
"I think what they're really going to try and do is what they did this year when they were successful - throw the ball a lot early, try to get ahead."
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 08, 2010, 07:46:56 AM
Lanell Kolb still teaches junior-high reading. Roy manages the RV park and prepares bids for a company that makes commercial cabinets.
Maybe Phreak deals with Roy
I don't - too far north. But our Dallas location probably does. I'll have to ask around.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2010, 07:10:43 AM
the players on the team right now have "rallied around" cobb more in the last two days than any of mcnabbs teammates over the last 11 years
I am sure you can find similar quotes from players who were on the team back in 99 or 00 when McNabb became a starter.
Anyway lets go Kolb. He already has Garcia level FIRE!
there were only 2 players on the offensive side of the ball who had an opinion that meant anything in 1999/2000....duce and tra. no one gave a shtein what charles johnson or torrance small thought about mcnabb.
not to mention that mcnabb wasn't replacing one of the best qb's in franchise history. he was replacing the likes of rodney peete/bobby hoying/ty and koy detmer/doug pederson. at that point in time, the qb bar in philly was so low it head a headstone.
it's completely different than what kolb faces now. because love or hate mcnabb, the fact is that kolb is replacing a 6x pro bowler who took this team to a sb and 5 nfccg.
but if the young players on this team are excited about playing with him, and the comments they are making seem more sincere than spoon fed statements from the pr dept, then i can't help but be a little excited about it too. i'll always be a mcnabb fan, but he's gone and it's time to see what kolb can do.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on April 08, 2010, 12:57:07 PM
Anyway lets go Kolb. He already has Garcia level FIRE!
I believe it's referred to as 'grit' around these parts.
High motor?
no no.
Utley is gritty
Garcia was firey
Akers is wirey
Chris Gocong has a high motor
FF you have been out of the loop for far too long.
i think you meant not long enough.
also, be thankful that drew brees won the super bowl last year. why? because prior to that, no qb from the state of texas had ever won the big game.
So does that count as grit?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 08, 2010, 01:09:14 PM
not to mention that mcnabb wasn't replacing one of the best qb's in franchise history. he was replacing the likes of rodney peete/bobby hoying/ty and koy detmer/doug pederson. at that point in time, the qb bar in philly was so low it head a headstone.
You son of a bitch.
(http://media.philly.com/images/20100408_dn_g1eagl08s.JPG)
sure, why not
Yeah, he must work out.
i thought that was munson's aunt & uncle in the rape basement.
not dusty enough
not rapey enough
they look like normal people not white trash delaware hillbilly inbreeds that could be related to some godforsaken creature like munson
old dusty drum sets FTL
lol. now that todd lives in texas, he thinks other texans are normal people.
If Kolb's dad's collar was popped, MDS might print out that picture and hang it over his bed.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 08, 2010, 08:28:07 AM
"Here's my interpretation of Kevin Kolb. I think he's a smart kid with good instincts. I think he has a good, but not a great or an elite arm. He doesn't have Donovan's arm. I think they'll go back more towards that West Coast Offense that they got away from a little bit because Donovan's strength was driving the ball down the field vertically," Mayock said.
"I think what they're really going to try and do is what they did this year when they were successful - throw the ball a lot early, try to get ahead."
This the hottest steamiest pile of shtein I have ever read. The team was inconsistent at best when passing all the time. The team got successful when Westbrook went down. The team ran McCoy and Weaver, and it opened up the pass. Then Westbrook came back and they went back to passing first. If they decide to pass 80% of the time, its not going to be pretty. He's going to make mistakes. There is no way they let him pull the trigger 40 plus times a game. Unless he is a God in practice, I have to see this for myself.
Yeah it's amazing that things collect dust when not being used for 6 months out of the year ::)
in most houses people clean their stuff more than once a month, munson.
key word: houses
and i probably should have posted once every six months too.
but let's not push it where munson is concerned.
Quote from: mussa on April 08, 2010, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 08, 2010, 08:28:07 AM
"Here's my interpretation of Kevin Kolb. I think he's a smart kid with good instincts. I think he has a good, but not a great or an elite arm. He doesn't have Donovan's arm. I think they'll go back more towards that West Coast Offense that they got away from a little bit because Donovan's strength was driving the ball down the field vertically," Mayock said.
"I think what they're really going to try and do is what they did this year when they were successful - throw the ball a lot early, try to get ahead."
This the hottest steamiest pile of shtein I have ever read. The team was inconsistent at best when passing all the time. The team got successful when Westbrook went down. The team ran McCoy and Weaver, and it opened up the pass. Then Westbrook came back and they went back to passing first. If they decide to pass 80% of the time, its not going to be pretty. He's going to make mistakes. There is no way they let him pull the trigger 40 plus times a game. Unless he is a God in practice, I have to see this for myself.
breathe in. breathe out. reeeeeelaaaaaaax brutha. gooooooose blah blah.
mcnabb didn't throw it 40x a game and kolb won't either. i've seen igy preach this several times and it's the absolute truth. mcnabb has 25 games with 40 or more pass attempts. so that's an average of a little over 2 games per year. probably more than most, but hardly eye popping. the majority of his career, he's been in the high 20's/low 30's for pass attempts per game.
the problem isn't so much how much reid passes, but when he passes. he's very pass happy during the first 3 quarters. then if he has the lead in the 4th, he'll balance things out with the run. at least, this is the formula when mcnabb is under center. when other qb's are in there, he's more balanced throughout the course of the game. i don't know why this is, but it is.
he's still calling the same number of pass vs run. he's just not waiting until the 4th qtr to start feeding the running backs when there's a qb not named mcnabb taking the snap.
oh you looked that up did you. either way its ridiculous to see the team do so well when they run and the turn bi-polar because of faith in the pass. its disgusting and pretty much a joke. i hate that fat farg
Quote from: mussa on April 08, 2010, 04:00:20 PM
oh you looked that up did you. either way its ridiculous to see the team do so well when they run and the turn bi-polar because of faith in the pass. its disgusting and pretty much a joke. i hate that fat farg
of course i looked it up. spouting off random numbers and percentages is igy's schtick.
anyway, the point is that with donovan gone, reid might actually turn into a more competent play caller. he's done it in the past with fill-in qb's. of course, it's easy to adjust your play calling habits for a few games. the question is can he do it for an entire season?
reids problems are more like...
throwing sideline fades on 3rd and 1
going shotgun on the first play of a road game
throwing NO MATTER WHAT the defense is doing to stop your passing game
throwing after running for two consecutive first downs
passing on first down to much
the one time reid does get pass happy is when the running games fails miserably early and he gives up on it...but even that is because he panics and doesnt know what to do...not because hes some air coryell passing maniac
I think Kolb will be fine if they focus on the run first. Reid sucks at the lack of running game, clock management and not being able or willing to adjust during games. These all fair pretty zesty for Jesus H Kolb
Yes, it is realistic to think they'll be a "run first" team.
Don't expect the world to be turned over. Just hope that the situational playcalling, like IGY mentioned, is not so out of whack.
Quote from: Rome on April 08, 2010, 02:00:43 PM
i thought that was munson's aunt & uncle in the rape basement.
I probably wasn't around when that phrase was coined but whoever it was kudos.
All of those situational types that he listed will never go away with Reid. That is his schtick and his overall philosophy to gain yards.
Do you think hes going to change his 3 and 1 pass out in the flat philosophy because Kolb is qb'ing now? Hell no..just a different guy now.
He has a qb that threw the ball over 75 times a game at Houston. Typically, if you have a guy like that that throws that much they need to get into a rhythm...which means expect a lot of the same right out of the gate with a tad more emphasized on running the ball.
They will rely less on the big play because Kolb can actually throw things other than deep balls.
The best we can hope for is less 3rd and 1 situations because the receivers will be hit in stride. Behind them. Weakly. Did I hit on all the bullet points for Kolb's arm there?
I think we'll see a lot less 3 yard passes in the flat on 3rd and 8's, because McNabb was too much of a Hoyda to try to squeeze one into a tight window.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 08, 2010, 02:33:17 PM
If Kolb's dad's collar was popped, MDS might print out that picture and hang it over his bed.
I didn't laugh out loud...but that is probably the funniest thing you have ever said.
Well done. :yay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLuxHKiTj9o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLuxHKiTj9o)
Quote from: Rome on April 08, 2010, 03:42:00 PM
in most houses people clean their stuff more than once a month, munson.
You clean your basement once a month?
I hope my life is more exciting then that when I'm 80.
my basement is actually cleaner than my house
then again my basement doesnt resemble the upper big branch mine...its actually has things like (hold your breath) wall to wall carpet
perhaps if your basement is like a john wayne gacey crawl space you shouldnt try and furnish it you god damn mongoloid
haha, holy shtein
lol
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2010, 07:01:27 AM
perhaps if your basement is like a john wayne gacey crawl space you shouldnt try and furnish it you god damn mongoloid
this is easily the funniest thing igy has ever said. put a date/time stamp on it and stick it in the archives.
And then launch the archives into space because no one actually cares or will ever care about any of this.
rjs FTW
i happen to beleive that in the year 2215, when society has gone to complete hell and chaos rules supreme, a young man will stumble upon the :CF archives and will be amazed and inspired by our words. He will take these archives back to what little remains of civilized society and present them to his tribal elders where they will in turn, use our very words as the foundation for a new society. our archives will serve as the "bible" for future civilizations and shall be known as the dead C(F) scrolls.
All will bow down to the No Hippos board.
actually, i kind of envisioned jessica alba's barking cheerio to be the focal point of their worship.
I stand corrected.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 09, 2010, 11:42:48 AM
I stand corrected.
we all stand at attention too.
alba > oxygen
If creating the Jessica Alba thread stands as my greatest accomplishment in life, I can live with that.
having never met you in person, i can still say without a doubt that that thread is infact your finest achievement.
you've met me, dumb ass.
seriously? in that case, meeting me is your greatest accomplishment and the alba thread comes in at a strong 2nd.
setting a t.o. jersey ablaze on the wach parking lot fence is my 2nd finest achievement.
Quote from: Rome on April 09, 2010, 01:40:33 PM
setting a t.o. jersey ablaze on the wach parking lot fence is my 2nd finest achievement.
still got the pics.
we were relatively sober when that happened and the milfs from disney on ice hadn't even driven by yet.
They were hot
nice shoes !
good times.
I still don't remember meeting Rome. Not suprising though. I usually don't remember much from most tailgates.
you ever come by ours ?
Depends.....do you guys have a piss bucket?
No, but I'd watch watch my step when getting in my vehicle.
lol. just make sure there is makers(or rum?) and red strip and Sgt will be there. piss buckets just an incentive
Makers and coke, capt and red stripe.
Rum and red stripe go together so naturally it's stupid.
I root for laundry, and Kolb's wearing the Eagles jersey, so he's my man.
i think i'm going to wait until i'm out of the marine corps before i tailgate with dio. that way, we can drink capt and red stripe while he teaches me how to toke up.
stupid piss tests.
settle down jerry garcia.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2010, 07:01:27 AM
my basement is actually cleaner than my house
then again my basement doesnt resemble the upper big branch mine...its actually has things like (hold your breath) wall to wall carpet
perhaps if your basement is like a john wayne gacey crawl space you shouldnt try and furnish it you god damn mongoloid
Yeah, I guess custom tiled floors and a full sized bar in a house built in the 1950's just doesn't beat wall to wall carpets!
I'm sure there is wall to wall carpets quite literally in the gimp room
all of this carpet talk has reminded me to do some manscaping tonight.
Quote from: Munson on April 09, 2010, 05:58:41 PM
all of this carpet talk has reminded me to do some manscaping tonight.
not laugh out loud but funny
Man...been outta' the loop for a few, but it's good to see Munson and igy continue to argue about basements. Good stuff!
I have to say I'm looking foward to this season more so than I have in the past few years. I want to jump onto the Kolb bandwagon. Seeing him in front of the press and by all accounts of people who have seen him practice, he is ready. At least mentally. It might be tempting fate to say this, but how much worse can it be for this team? This season with McNabb as qb would have been excactly like the last few, flashes pro bowl ability with the obligatory choke toward the end of the season. If they would have been lucky enough to make the playoffs, then we would have all sat around waiting to have our Superbowl hopes again crushed.
At least now, it's all new. Theres no, well we might make the playoffs but Kolb will just screw it up again like last year. He'll either puke, throw that 4th quarter int that costs the game, or do something so embarrasing and idiotic that you wonder how he could ever be a leader on an NFL team. You'd have never seen Unitas or Montana do some stupid herkey jerkey convulsive dance and then hump a glass partition. Theres none of that with Kolb. It's fresh and exciting, at least it is to me. As far as I'm concerned, he deserves the chance. It's what he was drafted for and the time is now. Reid's offense is built for a accurate, quick decision maker at qb, something McNabb never was. Is Kolb? Don't know, but at least we all have something to look foward to while finding out.
Quote from: shorebird on April 10, 2010, 08:40:52 AM
I have to say I'm looking foward to this season more so than I have in the past few years. I want to jump onto the Kolb bandwagon. Seeing him in front of the press and by all accounts of people who have seen him practice, he is ready. At least mentally. It might be tempting fate to say this, but how much worse can it be for this team?
There will be more interceptions, that much is certain. That would be the case if replacing McNabb with any quarterback, so it isn't too big of a deal.
I can see how more int's are a certianty. Most all qb's throw more int's than McNabb, and Kolb, no matter how much practice he gets, will have to get used to how quick the game is.
I think if anything the offensive playcaller's with balance the offense out. I mean, logically a new QB would probably feel more comfortable with this right? I pray it happens, it has to happen. If McNabb had to go to make that happen well then I'm ok with it. AND WE PRAY
Quote from: mussa on April 10, 2010, 12:47:22 PM
I think if anything the offensive playcaller's with balance the offense out. I mean, logically a new QB would probably feel more comfortable with this right? I pray it happens, it has to happen. If McNabb had to go to make that happen well then I'm ok with it. AND WE PRAY
I think we're all praying for this. If they can do this, they give Kolb a great shot at succeeding the next couple years while they retool the defense and hopefully can make a serious run at the SB again at point.
http://www.kolbheads.com/ (http://www.kolbheads.com/)
Quote from: phattymatty on April 14, 2010, 04:02:05 PM
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I know what somebody is getting for christmas
i will fight on the spot anyone who rocks one of those during tailgate this year
I'll pay anyone to wear one....just to see that.
Munson it is
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 14, 2010, 04:03:54 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on April 14, 2010, 04:02:05 PM
(http://www.kolbheads.com/DSC00179.JPG)
I know what somebody is getting for christmas
hopefully a battle axe to the throat.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 14, 2010, 04:12:49 PM
Munson it is
Munson doesn't need to be paid to be beat up. He's doing just fine in that respect.
what the farg is that anyway ?
It's obviously an Eagles themed corn cobb. And I want seven of them simply because they're the second worst things I've ever seen (after the Eagles-themed Mona Lisa of course).
sitting in my living room waiting to be framed.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 14, 2010, 04:09:57 PM
i will fight on the spot anyone who rocks one of those during tailgate this year
lol
IGY'd have to get his sausage links on me first.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 14, 2010, 04:28:35 PM
Munson doesn't need to be paid to be beat up. He's doing just fine in that respect.
Obviously GF hasn't discussed my salary with you yet.
You know what's really funny about this McNabb/Kolb crap, it's that Kolb was also boo'd on draft day. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BTej926Pvo) Sure it's a completely different set of circumstances but you can't watch that video and say he wasn't boo'd. Funny he never mentions it in interviews.
That's because he doesn't care. He doesn't have to talk about having "thick skin," because he actually has it.
hahahaa at the reaching. Comparing the 2 is insanely stupid.
McNabb was one of (now obviously the best of) the class of 99. He was drafted early in the first round. He was drafted to be a savior to a team who had NO quarterback.
Instead, a radio station actually planned a busload of people to go up there and BOO. And the ferocity at which it was thrown at him was ridiculous.
Kolb on the other hand, is/was probably so mystified that he was drafted anywhere NEAR where he was drafted, that the boos don't bother him because he wasn't even scheduled to go anywhere around that. And you have to strain to hear the boos...probably because the basis of them was "who the farg is THIS guy and why did we draft a QB like him where we did." And Kolb is very much aware of that.
Quote from: SD on April 18, 2010, 08:48:05 AM
Sure it's a completely different set of circumstances but you can't watch that video and say he wasn't boo'd. Funny he never mentions it in interviews.
I knew someone would mention the differences which is why I included ^^^^ this part. Do the circumstances of why they were both boo'd matter? They were both boo'd, one chose to laugh it off the other still holds a grudge 11 years later. That's the point I'm making, good leaders don't cry about being boo'd because they have other concerns. I'm buying a Kolb authentic butter joint - our new savior.
You act as if McNabb brought it up himself in interviews. The dude was asked about it a disgusting amount of times for the 11 years he was here.
Quote from: Munson on April 18, 2010, 11:14:44 AM
You act as if McNabb brought it up himself in interviews. The dude was asked about it a disgusting amount of times for the 11 years he was here.
Yes, and when given the chance countless times to squash it he instead acted like a scorned women with phrases like "I can forgive but I can't forget".
he had such a tough life
i mean really
booed my a bunch of drunken idiots on draft day that listen to angelo
wow. what a rough one. poor guy.
i hope he gets over it, but i understand it might be tough to put that behind him.
SD didn't say he brought it up, he said McNabb still holds a grudge which is painfully obvious. SD was also right about leadership and having thin skin. Here is just one example of another teams fans booig their own draft pick:
Dolphin fans booing Ginn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaYgGSHJ5hM&feature=related)
The fact that getting booed for 30 seconds is the worst thing ever to happen to McNabb speaks volumes about what a ridiculously priveleged life he's led.
how about the same fans who booed mcnabb (not only angelos losers, but the times he got booed off the field like the home game in 03 against new england and all the wip calls and message board posts over the years).....get this
BOOED PAT BURRELL AND CHARLIE MANUEL.
farg they were more personal and vile to manuel than mcnabb. but charlie didnt give a shtein. then he won a world series and starting winning. now they love him and he rakes it in.
burrell was getting killed. he never complained. then in 08 he leads the parade down broad street and even before that was adamant he didnt want to leave.
some people can put stuff like that behind them, some cant. mike schmidt couldnt. it ate him up. but he was just 1 player on a team, mcnabb is the qb. but funny the first playoffs schmidt actually showed up the phils won.
were still waiting on 5 to show up for the entire playoffs. and also not be a total bitch. but i guess thats dc's problem now.
Nice to see PG and Munson in complete agreement!
The dude was asked about, and he talked about it.
Normally the complaint is the constant stream of BS we get from athletes, now you're on a guy because he was honest with his answers.
Got it.
Also, I'm not gonna bitch and moan about an athlete answering questions that he's asked. If he was going around bringing it up himself, I'd care. But anyone who really pays any attention to any interview given by an athlete, especially one as "sound as PC as possible while I give this answer" as McNabb was, needs to find something better to do with their time.
So because someone's honest we should disregard his constant bitching and moaning every time it's brought up? The first time he was asked about it he should have laughed it off and said he was just looking forward to playing some football. The whole thing would have been forgotten, but he was constantly asked about it because reporters know how to push buttons and they knew that was an easy soundbite/quote. Why drop it when he continues to feed their fire.
i'm a mcnabb fan but just the fact that even 2 or 3 years in he felt the need to keep answering questions about it was annoying. and entertaining the same questions after 10 years was just ridiculous. he could have easily just said after season 2 or 3 that he's already answered questions about being booed on draft day and it's time to move on. but he couldn't answer it that way because (a) that would require taking a stand and (b) he never actually moved on from that. because if he did he would have stopped talking about it every time someone brought it up.
He's not the only one that hasn't moved on.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 18, 2010, 03:41:28 PM
He's not the only one that hasn't moved on.
THis.
The dude was asked questions. He answered them.
And because he's Donovan McNabb and gives the most boring answers ever, there shouldn't be one person who pays attention to any answers he gives.
so its the medias fault?
they never wanted to move on from that line of questioning so therefore 5 could never move on from it?
he is a friggin taterskin now and you losers STILL make excuses for him. 5 did a lot of things right here and a lot of things wrong. this is one of the bad things, he never embraced the fans, the city, the people and never let go or forgot what happened on draft day.
thats what you expect out of a corny mommas boy who was coddled every second of his life and never had anything bad happen to him. then boom, one day in he gets booed. funny how he couldnt take it.
yeaup same old shtein happening around here...see you in a few days
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And there's people that care about that type of shtein and people that don't.
When I think of Donovan McNabb in Philadelphia, the answers that he gave in press conferences/interviews and the dance moves he pulled on the sidelines rank somewhere around last and next to last on the what comes to mind list.
Quote from: Munson on April 18, 2010, 05:38:58 PMWhen I think of Donovan McNabb in Philadelphia,
lol, how gay is this?
now answer your own question.
Quote from: KDS on April 18, 2010, 07:15:27 PM
Quote from: Munson on April 18, 2010, 05:38:58 PMWhen I think of Donovan McNabb in Philadelphia,
lol, how gay is this?
now answer your own question.
I think that's your question bucko.
Let's talk about something that happened 11 years ago to someone not on this team anymore for another 5 pages.
Luther Broughton
Doug Pederson. As long as Andy is around there's a chance he could coach here...that would be fun.
Quote from: Butchers Bill on April 19, 2010, 11:01:50 AM
Doug Pederson. As long as Andy is around there's a chance he could coach here...that would be fun.
He does coach here. Thanks for playing!
(he's a offense quality control guy)
Meant Head Coach dingus.
Quote from: Butchers Bill on April 19, 2010, 11:14:00 AM
Meant Head Coach dingus.
Your post makes even less sense then. Andy Reid is going to replace himself with Doug Pederson? :yay
If Andy decides he want to follow his Idols (Holmgren) footsteps and just work in the FO then yes.